SEV: Any point to killing buildings?

[Phoenix-D]

I just noticed in the strategies that you can attack buildings and facilities during ground combat.

Facilities I can see, but..does killing the building do anything? Maybe it kills extra pop?

Also, how does the attacker get fighters to the surface during ground combat?

[Captain Kwok]

Not sure if the buildings represent population... but it would be cool if they did...

If there are fighters in orbit they'll be included in ground combat - can't recall if this includes fighters stowed on a carrier though.

[Phoenix-D]

Yeah, I had grand plans of making troops to raid and burn enemy planets. Then I realized I could just nuke them from orbit. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[RonGianti]

Phoenix-D said:
Then I realized I could just nuke them from orbit. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif



"Its the only way to be sure"

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[Caduceus]

RonGianti said:
"Its the only way to be sure"




I was thinking the same thing.

Targetting a shipyard would be useful, if you don't have the forces to take the planet, you could at least stop a counterattack.

[Noble713]

Phoenix-D said:

Also, how does the attacker get fighters to the surface during ground combat?



I think you just need a ship with fighters in its cargo given a "Drop Troops" order. All other fighters in space/on carriers don't seem to participate. It means your best course of action would be to develop specific "Ground Attack" fighters that you would carry on your troop transports and equipped with your best anti-ground weapons. As long as the ship has no fighter launch bays they will land with your "normal" ground troops.

[PvK]

Phoenix-D said:
Yeah, I had grand plans of making troops to raid and burn enemy planets. Then I realized I could just nuke them from orbit. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

In SE5 can troop transports be programmed (without human tactical control) to land troops on a planet even when there are weapon platforms remaining on the planet? If so, then there could be mods (high planetary shields, weakish weapon platforms), where ground invasion could be the easiest way to take a planet.

[Captain Kwok]

It's possible - but I wonder if the WPs will wipe the floor with the landed troops?

[Phoenix-D]

It can be done, at least in the simulator. I'm not sure how it works in fleets, but in the sim the transport just charged on in with the rest of the ships.

EDIT: Kwok, WPs don't seem to be firing in ground combat..again, at least in the sim.

[Captain Kwok]

It's probably a factor that there weapons don't do ground damage... which makes this a very viable tactic I like it!

[Phoenix-D]

Yeah, I checked components.txt and none of the "big" guns can tatget troops, so the WPs are left hanging. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

They die absurdly easily, actually.

EDIT: they won't fire even if given PDCs, which can target fighters. Odd.

[Captain Kwok]

I think it's because the PDCs lack ground damage values. I can test this later.

[PvK]

I noticed that when I asked the AI to complete my weapon platform design in version 0.90, it illegally placed "small" weapons on the weapon platforms (the ones used on fighters and troops), which of course CAN target troops. So I assume it can be modded to do it legally too, though I haven't tested it.

[Captain Kwok]

I'm fairly certain it can. In fact, if PDCs and their kin can be given ground damage, the WPs should be able to fire at fighters/troops which is I think is ok. I'd hesitate to allow them to bring their "ship" weapons online for ground combat though.

[Phoenix-D]

Overkill much? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif The big guns not working makes sense, really- I was just surprised even the PDCs didn't work.

[Kana]

Which is going to lead to special 'ground defense' weapon platforms....

[Noble713]

Kana said:
Which is going to lead to special 'ground defense' weapon platforms....



*Conjures up images of infantry rushing machine-gun pillboxes.*

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Bolos!