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wildcowboy
October 4th, 2006, 09:06 PM
Just wondering if anyone has recommendations for a portable external hard drive. The ones Ive seen all operate at 5400rpm. Is this sufficient to run SE directly from it? Any opinions and personal exp. welcome.
Thanks,
CB
DarkHorse
October 4th, 2006, 09:21 PM
Buy.com (http://www.buy.com/prod/Western_Digital_My_Book_Essential_250GB_USB_2_0_Ex ternal_Hard_Drive/q/loc/16076/202367718.html)
I just bought this one; 7200rpm USB 2.0 etc, for a pretty reasonable price.
Suicide Junkie
October 4th, 2006, 09:32 PM
Heck, you could use a USB key.
Even a 128meg key is enough if you trim down the data files...
Delete the 800x600 or 1024x768 system pictures, whichever you won't be using. And downgrade the ones you will be using to have fewer colours and save more space.
Fyron
October 4th, 2006, 09:51 PM
External hdds are usually a rip-off. It is generally cheaper to buy a IDE drive (on sale all the time too) and an enclosure (pay more than $20 for a good aluminum one and you are getting ripped off).
$100 is sort of approaching what you could pay for a 250 gb IDE drive + enclosure though, and might be worth it for you.
SJ:
I dunno if you could fit it on 128 MB. Dogscoff had a hell of a time getting it to fit on just a 700 MB CD.
Another possibility is to mod the SystemTypes.txt file so that all systems use the same image. Won't help much with PBW, but fine for single player.
SE3, however, is fairly portable. It's install size is only a few MBs. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif But you might need to activate the registration on every machine you run it on... Could probably export the registry keys for that to make it faster though.
wildcowboy
October 4th, 2006, 10:21 PM
Im looking at a 100GB simpletech that is up for $100. Dark Horse, Ive seen nothing but good things about the MyBook but its much larger dimensions than what Im searching for. Im looking for something truly pocket size. I thought of the 1GB jump drive but I need something that I can store several GB's of other data on for work and such. I guess what it comes down to is whether 5400 rpm is enought o run the game directly from the drive. As for the file size on my PC for the game Im sitting at 669MB for the whole deal with AT's Star Trek mod. Thanks for the opinions guys and tell me what you think. I forgot why I liked this site so much when I lurked around several years ago.
CB
bearclaw
October 4th, 2006, 10:35 PM
Later this month I'm due to buy a replacement for my aging Palm m500. I'll be buying a Palm LiveDrive. It has 4 Gb onboard memory and I'll be purchasing a 2 Gb SD card with it. LiveDrives can also function as a USB drive so my intention is to have SEIV installed on that and run games off it.
When I get it all together, I'll try to remember to post it's performance.
Fyron
October 4th, 2006, 10:42 PM
100 GB for $100? Yikes! Don't throw money away like that. Watch the deal sites til the next time a 160 GB is up for ~$40, and an enclosure is under 20. Lots of companies make good enclosures that are not much larger than the hdd itself.
Of course, if you want truly pocket sized, you want a notebook ide drive and a 2.5 inch enclosure.
geoschmo
October 4th, 2006, 11:00 PM
Imperator Fyron said:
SJ:
I dunno if you could fit it on 128 MB. Dogscoff had a hell of a time getting it to fit on just a 700 MB CD.
128 would be a tight squeze, but you might be able to do it. A clean install should be fairly easy to fit it on a 256MB flash drive. IIRC Dogscoff was trying to load it with lots of extra shipsets and his favorite mods.
Suicide Junkie
October 5th, 2006, 06:35 AM
Oh it was, but 128 was all that was available way back when.
Nowadays, you could grab a 1gig stick for a couple bucks and pile the imagepacks and a couple of mods onto it.
Oooh, what about a bootable linux with wine on it?
Insert Disk, Power On, Play SE4. Power Off, Poof.
Good on CDRW too.
Fyron
October 5th, 2006, 06:48 AM
Of course, it's probably not a good idea to run SE4 off of a USB flash drive anyways; all those temp file writes are sure to kill it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif With flash getting cheap these days, it might be worth it though. Just make sure to back up your savegames from time to time.
dogscoff
October 5th, 2006, 08:13 AM
I dunno if you could fit it on 128 MB. Dogscoff had a hell of a time getting it to fit on just a 700 MB CD.
Yeah, but that was including a whole heap of mods and shipsets. Remove those (or scale down the BMPs, something I was unwilling to do) and you could squeeze se4 onto a USB key no probs.
I wish se4 could have supported zip files for mod and shipset folders , I'd have a gig more space on my HD than there is now.
geoschmo
October 5th, 2006, 08:33 AM
dogscoff said:
I wish se4 could have supported zip files for mod and shipset folders , I'd have a gig more space on my HD than there is now.
You know, I'll bet someone could make a "Mod picker" style utility that would store the mods as zip files and only unzip the one you are currently playing.
scJazz
October 5th, 2006, 09:35 AM
The only saving grace for purchasing a boxed external hard drive is the backup/recovery software you usually get.
Approach 1) Save money, use time, no software = buy the drive and enclosure and put them together
Approach 2) Waste money, save time, get backup/recover software = buy a boxed LaCie or Maxtor hard drive.
Personally I like the Maxtor One-Touch for its' utterly painless backup system (push the button stupid!). This is what I use on the majority of my client installations.
Azselendor
October 5th, 2006, 01:05 PM
I operate a lot of my work now from a portable hard drive, as a gift a few months ago, it was a 100gb Seagate Portable Hard Drive and it was all enclosed and that good stuff. Works great too. I accidently found the receipt for it at my parent's home and it cost them about 90 bucks after shipping and freight insurance.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Recs=10&Nav=|c:136|&Sort=4
That is where they bought it from and this is it, looks like the price went up or it was on sale.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1827193&CatId=0
Urendi Maleldil
October 5th, 2006, 02:07 PM
Woah. Hadrian is back. Welcome back, amigo.
Ed Kolis
October 5th, 2006, 02:50 PM
Oh wow, I didn't even recognize you! Hadrian as in SpaceEmpires.org? Or are you going to kill me because I remembered that? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
Fyron
October 9th, 2006, 02:38 PM
I dunno if you already bought your hdd, but Dell has a 160 GB external drive for $79 with no shipping. Still a little pricier than a good deal on a IDE + enclosure, but it beats the other prices posted earlier. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
http://bensbargains.net/deal/7611/
wildcowboy
October 10th, 2006, 06:11 PM
Fyron,
Thanks man, Ill look into it.
Sivran
October 12th, 2006, 04:50 AM
Ouch, 79$ for a 160? I am so glad I live near a Fry's. I picked up an external 250 for that price after rebate.
Fyron
October 13th, 2006, 12:12 AM
Hmm... this deal is more like it! 160 GB external for $50 after rebate.
http://bensbargains.net/deal/8022/
(hdd link (http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=420306&x=0) in case the "click here" button doesn't work)
Timstone
October 15th, 2006, 10:25 AM
bearclaw said:
Later this month I'm due to buy a replacement for my aging Palm m500. I'll be buying a Palm LiveDrive. It has 4 Gb onboard memory and I'll be purchasing a 2 Gb SD card with it. LiveDrives can also function as a USB drive so my intention is to have SEIV installed on that and run games off it.
When I get it all together, I'll try to remember to post it's performance.
Bearclaw:
You installed SE IV on your palm? Wow! Did it work. Does that mean I can install SE IV on my HP HX4700 too?
Timstone
October 16th, 2006, 12:22 PM
Anyone, perhaps...?
Makinus
January 16th, 2008, 03:14 PM
<Using his necromantic powers Makinus ressurects the bane of message-boards everywhere: The long-dead thread of doom!>
Just to share with everyone: just bought an Asus EEE 4G and installed XP and SEIV in it and it works perfectly! The turn processing time is smaller than i tought possible, in fact it processes at the about the same speed as my old 1.4 GHZ Duron desktop...
Now i finally have SEIV in a really portable format...
Ironmanbc
January 16th, 2008, 04:11 PM
now now don't let us catch you at work playing it now LOL
bearclaw
January 16th, 2008, 05:03 PM
I'm glad you did resurrect this topic because I forgot all about installing SEIV on my LifeDrive to see if the DriveMode would work...
Timstone said:
Bearclaw:
You installed SE IV on your palm? Wow! Did it work. Does that mean I can install SE IV on my HP HX4700 too?
No, I haven't but only because I forgot about it. Now I'm going to though and I'll let you know how it works.
narf poit chez BOOM
January 16th, 2008, 06:03 PM
Gentlemen, the future is now!
dogscoff
January 17th, 2008, 11:42 AM
Those Asus machines look great, I was thinking about getting one instead of a new laptop, but I need something with more screenage.
Do they run on Crystalline technology, as we would all expect from any EEE technology?
Makinus
January 17th, 2008, 01:38 PM
For me it is perfect, as i needed a machine small enough to fit in my suitcase with space for all the documents i need to take with me everywhere and still be able to work with .doc and .xls files on the go...
The battery life is good enough for me (typically around 3 hours for what i use) so i donīt need to search power outlets when i need to use it and, as a side benefit, i can use it to play SEIV and other games i like...
Now my next step is to buy a 4gb or 8gb SD card so i can play Baldurīs Gate II in it...
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