Music in Doms 3 is superb.

[BigJMoney]

One thing I kept meaning to ask - but forgot - in the beta was whether new music was going to come with this game. I was really hoping there would be. Nobody has mentioned this yet, and I'm surprised because the music in Doms 3 is just out of this world. I liked DomII's music, but I love these songs. I also love the fact that one of the ages even has a different musical style. Anyway, thought it was worth mentioning.

=$= Big J Money =$=

[Nerfix]

Indeed, great stuff.

[DominionsFan]

Yeah I also like it very much. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

[olaf73]

Yeah it really is nice. I am normally not a fan of ingame music either.

[ceremony]

BigJMoney said:
One thing I kept meaning to ask - but forgot - in the beta was whether new music was going to come with this game. I was really hoping there would be. Nobody has mentioned this yet, and I'm surprised because the music in Doms 3 is just out of this world. I liked DomII's music, but I love these songs. I also love the fact that one of the ages even has a different musical style. Anyway, thought it was worth mentioning.


Actually, Nerfix did mention this a couple days ago here (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=453278&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1). I agree with both of you - the music is superb. I love the music in both games and encourage people to check out the CDs that are available from them.

[WraithLord]

Yeap, music is superb, I like it more than dom-II music (though it was nice enough). I may even go ahead and buy one of Falsobordone's CDs anytime soon.

[alexti]

olaf73 said:
Yeah it really is nice. I am normally not a fan of ingame music either.


Neither am I. The key I think is that Illwinter decided not to create ingame music, but rather arrange to use real music instead - that's why the music is great. I'm really at lost why other developers don't do that - there're many talented indy bands capable of making music much better than typical "ingame" music. And I'm sure it won't cost nearly as much as 3D art in mainstream titles http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[isodea]

alexti said:

olaf73 said:
Yeah it really is nice. I am normally not a fan of ingame music either.


Neither am I. The key I think is that Illwinter decided not to create ingame music, but rather arrange to use real music instead - that's why the music is great. I'm really at lost why other developers don't do that - there're many talented indy bands capable of making music much better than typical "ingame" music. And I'm sure it won't cost nearly as much as 3D art in mainstream titles http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



So true. I was very pleasantly surprised to hear this new and wonderful music. I was expecting your typical fantasy fluff. Great job illwinter.

[Kristoffer O]

WraithLord said:
Yeap, music is superb, I like it more than dom-II music (though it was nice enough). I may even go ahead and buy one of Falsobordone's CDs anytime soon.



Dråm is the music in the early era. Swedish folk music.
Falsobordone in the second and third. Medieval european music.
Both are projects by Anna Rynefors and Erik Ask-Uppmark.

[Jarkko]

I like the music very much too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Does anybody have a link to where I could buy their music?

[Kristoffer O]

www.kulturkometen.com (http://www.kulturkometen.com)

THere is a small english flag at the bottom if you don't speak swedish.

[B0rsuk]

Wait, so you actually get more music in full version ?
Is there any chance of getting Dead Can Dance in a patch ? With Luck Scale:3 ?

As for music in games, there are some very good reasons to make new music. There are basically two kinds of game music:

- durable music
- story music

Durable music is often underrated, but if done properly, it's great for RTS, TBS, FPP and other 'long' games. The point is that some music, while quite good, gets annoying after a while. Music in strategy games mustn't be annoying after a while.
Just because a piece is good doesn't mean it would work in a game. House of the Rising Sun (The Doors) or Smoke On The Water (Deep Purple) are nice pieces, but you wouldn't survive long exposure without getting Insane afliction.

Story music - generally has shorter life than durable music, and is tailored exactly to needs/situation. Best example would be Planescape:Torment. Really great music, but you wouldn't want to listen to (most of) it in loops.

[Jarkko]

House of the Rising sun was not Doors but Animals http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Other than that I agree (and I could listen to Doors "Riders on the storm" or "Waiting for the Sun" until doomsday... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif ). It took me perhaps two months to turn off Dom2 music, I have to see if Dom3 music has a longer life-span for me (atm I certainly do feel so for some reason http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif ).

[johan osterman]

I think instrumental music often lasts longer, so the early era dråm music might last a while. I have become a bit fed up with it at this point though, and apparently so has Anna and Eric themselves. The dråm, the continous bagpipe tone, tends to get on your nerves eventually

[Endoperez]

johan osterman said:
I think instrumental music often lasts longer, so the early era dråm music might last a while. I have become a bit fed up with it at this point though, and apparently so has Anna and Eric themselves. The dråm, the continous bagpipe tone, tends to get on your nerves eventually



Actually, that's my experience as well. But for some reason I haven't played the other ages as much event though I'm not that big fan of magic-based games. I quess I'll just have to change to LA now. Different music should be quite refreshing.

[upstreamedge]

I like the music in the game as well, but for the 55 dollar price tag I really feel like there should be more of it. I understand Illwinter is a small company but I think they could have more songs for 55 dollars

[Nerfix]

I think they had hard time to fit in all of them to one CD... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[DominionsFan]

upstreamedge said:
I like the music in the game as well, but for the 55 dollar price tag I really feel like there should be more of it. I understand Illwinter is a small company but I think they could have more songs for 55 dollars



Rumor says that there will be a 100$ Dominions 3. version. Kris is singing a song in it, and the chorus will contain Dominions fans only! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[[PS. This was a joke, so don't send emails to Shrapnel that you wanna order this copy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif]]

[SelfishGene]

Who is singing the dirge from the 2nd age, and what is the title of the song? I'd like to get a CD of that one.

[johan osterman]

That would be Anna of Falsobordonne. Cantigas de Santa Maria is the CD.
http://www.falsobordone.com/engindex.htm

[Frostmourne27]

Johan, aren't you supposed to be a toad now? That stone head is... ugly. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[ceremony]

Johan K is the toad. Johan O is the head. So many Johans!

[Nerfix]

Do they have the battle theme on some CD? It's awesome. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Frostmourne27]

Whoops. How obtuse of me.

[SelfishGene]

Just FYI, but Dram is available in iTunes now.

Is it better for them for us to purchace the CD or get it through iTunes?

[TirAsleen]

yes, i like the music too, more is always appreciated http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Sombre]

I turned it off after about a day. It was too much of the same.

[Herode]

I usually turn off ingame music after a try or two as you do but I confess that I didn't for Dom III. This one is great, quiet and not disturbing at all. Good stuff !

[Sombre]

Actually the sounds in dom3 annoy me somewhat. For example the slingers firing sound and the female dying sound are louder than pretty much everything else and really grating. On top of that dom3 has very, very bare sound options (no ingame volume control etc).

The music is something I enjoyed initially. But it's too much of the same. Same deal with,.. say,.. Europa Universalis. So it's not that it's bad music, it's just there's no variety.

[TirAsleen]

What sound? It has none. Not on the global Map. On the world map we should hear the sea roaming in water provinces, arcane laboratories could make a sound too when clicking on it...and so on. So detail is lacking here definately. In combat there exist some sound at least and death screams of women is among my favourites. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[BigDisAwesome]

I kinda like hearing all the high pitched battle sounds. Nothing is better then when you mass an army of Serpent Dancers and they all attack in unison. HISSSHISSHISSHSISHISHSSHIISSSS

Or Troglodytes.
DOMPDOMPDOMPDOMPDOMPDOMPDOMPDOMP

Slaughtering girls is fun too.
ARGHARGHARHAGHARAGHARGHARHAGHARHAGHAHH

[TirAsleen]

my favourite is the evil noise when arch bishop of eldegrate casts protecthion of the sepulchre on some thousands soulless that hasn't changed since dom1.

[Meglobob]

The death screams of the amazon women are my favourites but I generally play with the sound off. It gets annoying very quickly.

[MaxWilson]

My favorite sound is elephants trumpeting and humans splattering.

-Max

[HoneyBadger]

I like the music too, although at this point, it's getting a little repetitive to me-not because of the songs themselves, or the type of music, but because their aren't that many.

Any chance we'll be getting more variety of music in a future patch?

[Gandalf Parker]

As far as I can figure out, all of the sounds in the game (including the music) can be swapped. There is a linux program called sox (SOund eXchange) which will convert mp3 and wav to all of the formats that are used in the dominions3/rawsound directory. Unfortunately the quick and dirty tests I did were not very satisfatory. Doing
sox hack-slash-chop.mp3 testing.al
did create the format but playing it back sounded real strange. Very slow. The sox program does have a thousand switches for controlling all that but Im not in a hurry to mess with them. Too much on my list of things to mess with already. If anyone finds the proper settings to convert an .mp3 to an .al (for music) or .wav to .sm (sound effect) then that would be great.

[HoneyBadger]

Yeah, I'd like to add Mozart's Magic Flute to the game, maybe for MA.

[Gandalf Parker]

HoneyBadger said:
Yeah, I'd like to add Mozart's Magic Flute to the game, maybe for MA.


Hmmmm might even be able to find a public domain mp3 of that to convert so that we can make it available to everyone. Probably not done by a famous symphony, but something. Do you have any idea which song you would want to replace?

[HoneyBadger]

I'd rather not replace any songs, unless that was absolutely necessary. Maybe just tie different music to different nations. Who among us doesn't agree that Wagner would be a good thematic choice for Helheim for instance?

[MaxWilson]

There are a lot more .al files in /rawsound than there are songs I've heard, and they're named things like Draam1.al, Draam5.al, etc. Is each song broken into multiple parts? If no one knows I'll have to check it out.

It looks like you could just drop more .al files into the directory and the play list would expand automatically. That's cool.

-Max

Edit: of course that's pure conjecture, looks can be deceiving, I haven't actually tried it, etc., etc.

[VedalkenBear]

Just wanted to chime in with the fact that my roommates have both requested me to burn the game music onto CD for them. As the format is not generally recognizable by my programs, I'm not sure how to go about it.

[Gandalf Parker]

We cant discuss that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif
The correct answer is that you can go to the bands website and buy their CD.
previous music discussion with links to band (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=dom3&Number=466504&Forum=f 187,f194,f195&Words=falsobordone&Searchpage=0&Limi t=25&Main=466479&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=&d aterange=1&newerval=5&newertype=y&olderval=&oldert ype=&bodyprev=1#Post466504)

[HoneyBadger]

Although I don't give a fiq for greedy, geriatric bands like Metallica who lust after every penny they can scrape up in order to cash in on their youth to buy Depends and Viagra and then ***** about the couch-change they lose when some poor yet rebellious person appreciates their music enough to download it 20 years after the band themselves were in that position or ever would be again, bands like Dram don't have, comparably, a lot of money/sales from their music and aren't *going* to, simply because they make music for a small, select group of people, and probably mostly for themselves.

So in conclusion, music is a good thing, and it's also a good thing to support bands who make music that not everyone is going to support. If you can afford to, please consider buying Dram's CD.

[Shovah32]

If your tired of the songs you could always just put on your own playlist while you play...

[HoneyBadger]

that's more efficient and reasonable than can be allowed. besides, all that extra electricity being wasted increases global warming!