Dawggie Does Dominions - JURRI WINS!! [Archive]

PashaDawg

October 9th, 2006, 05:51 PM

Here's the nitty-gritty:

Late Era

Cumulative Victory Point victory condition: There will be 15 random VP provinces. You need 13 points to win. Points are accumulated every summer (every 12 turns).

Map = Glory of the Gods (MP version)

Renaming allowed

All other Late Era defaults the same.

Hosting: 9:00 p.m. Boston Time; Daily for turn 1-12; Tues-Thurs-Sun for turns 13 & after.

Player list:

1. Jurri - Mictlan
2. Pasha - Ulm
3. Gothmog - Caelum (edit: Gothmog = Dragonfire11)
4. djo - Agartha
5. Wraithlord - Pan
6. Cainehill - Tien Chi
7. Kissblade - Patala
8. Caduceus - Arco
9. Varjostin - C'Tis
10. Ygorl - Atlantis
11. Bluebird - Man
12. okiN - Rlyeh
13. Hako - Van / Midgard (replaced Coobe)
14. Boron - Ermor
15. Shovah - Jomon

Trash talk strongly encouraged! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Jurri

October 9th, 2006, 05:54 PM

Hah, I win! Just look at the list... 1. Jurri! Thank you for the game, guys, wish you'da done better Boron. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/stupid.gif

I give it less than 10 minutes before we get the 15th player.

KissBlade

October 9th, 2006, 05:58 PM

Everyone attack qm!

Oh ... he's not in the game ...

Everyone attack Jurri/Boron!

PashaDawg

October 9th, 2006, 05:59 PM

HA - Jurri & KB wasting no time in delivering the trash. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Caduceus

October 9th, 2006, 06:09 PM

To the pain!!

Shovah32

October 9th, 2006, 06:16 PM

Patala for me (all the good ones are taken...)

Boron

October 9th, 2006, 06:21 PM

KissBlade said:
Everyone attack qm!

Oh ... he's not in the game ...

Everyone attack Jurri/Boron!

Hey i am not http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/209/untitled7sn.png so i am not singing rape me my friend http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif.

And btw you just confessed to be necrophil Kiss. Raping undeads, you are indeed pervert http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

PashaDawg

October 9th, 2006, 06:23 PM

You got the slot, Shovah!

Bluebird

October 9th, 2006, 06:31 PM

Hey guys: check the manual, late Man has no known weakness! I pwn you ALL!!!!

Boron

October 9th, 2006, 06:35 PM

Bluebird said:
Hey guys: check the manual, late Man has no known weakness! I pwn you ALL!!!!

Eh that part of the manual was most likely written before 2.94, so before LE Man was NERFED into http://games.tiscali.cz/reviews/oblivion/art40f.jpg http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

djo

October 9th, 2006, 06:42 PM

You go to work on a US holiday, and what do you get? Last pick of nations!

I'll take...well, if you're going to go down in flames, Abysia must be the right choice! Hey wait, they have *lighter* armor than in earlier ages?? Forget that...

OK, with all the undead running around, even though I played them in Council of Wyrms, Marignon is one of my favorites. Beest thou pious & chaste, or we shallst Inquisite thee. In boats!

DragonFire11

October 9th, 2006, 06:42 PM

There is no point in playing this match. I hear that player Gothmog is really really good.

PashaDawg

October 9th, 2006, 06:47 PM

Hey wait! Gothmog = Dragonfire! No fair!

DragonFire11

October 9th, 2006, 06:50 PM

Some say there is a likeness between Gothmog and Dragonfire, but these are strictly rumors.

Shovah32

October 9th, 2006, 07:13 PM

Anyone interested in hosting an Early era game at the same time as this one?

Jurri

October 9th, 2006, 07:44 PM

You take your outside interests elsewhere, buster! Nothing else matters but this game, the one to start it all, and to end it all.

Boron

October 9th, 2006, 07:49 PM

Jurri said:
You take your outside interests elsewhere, buster! Nothing else matters but this game, the one to start it all, and to end it all.

Hm that sounds too armaggedonish imho. "To end it all" ... .
Too dramatic http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Stossel

October 9th, 2006, 08:30 PM

Is 15 the limit or can I still join on as utgard?

PashaDawg

October 9th, 2006, 08:53 PM

Sorry, but we're trying to limit the game to 15 players.

There will be another game soon, no doubt! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

PashaDawg

October 9th, 2006, 09:49 PM

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PLEASE SEND PRETENDERS TO: whscom [at] maine [dot] rr (dot) com

Please include "DDD" in the subject line (short for Dawggie Does Dominions).

I hope to start on Wednesday, unless all players do not have the game yet.

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Bluebird

October 10th, 2006, 03:22 AM

Just a quick question about the rules: aren't 10 cumulative VPs a little bit low? I mean, if somebody manages to capture only two VPs early, then the whole game will just last 4 1/2 years. If somebody manages to capture 3 and later 4, the game will last only 2 1/2 years. That will make imprisoned pretenders more or less useless.

djo

October 10th, 2006, 06:04 PM

A bit late, but I'm in the fewer VP camp. I think it won't be easy to hang onto those VPs for year after year. 13 sounds fine to me. Non-capitols, if you please.

PashaDawg

October 10th, 2006, 09:04 PM

Thanks for pointing that out, Bluebird.

My hope was to set things up so that the game would likely end by around Turn 60 (5 years) with a chance that it would last longer. (Points are awarded every 12 turns, and so I don't think there can be 1/2 years.)

The original suggestion to me assumed that VP's would be in capitals only, but I don't want that because I believe it makes the capitals of newer players easy, cheap targets.

With that mind, maybe we should raise the winning score to 20.

1/3 of the total VP provinces would be 5. A player would have to be pretty successful early on to achieve that number of points by turn 48.

What do the other players think?

WraithLord

October 10th, 2006, 09:32 PM

I am for raising VP to 20.

Jurri

October 10th, 2006, 09:37 PM

I'd say 10 is plenty. Someone gets ahead, you pull him back to the gutter. (15 would be in line with the number of players and the number of VPs, though.)

Boron

October 10th, 2006, 09:45 PM

I vote for raising it to 25 or 30.

Imho the game should end in the turn 60-100 range http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

coobe

October 10th, 2006, 11:11 PM

Jurri better prays he doesnt spawn next to me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Boron

October 10th, 2006, 11:42 PM

coobe said:
Jurri better prays he doesnt spawn next to me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Hopefully he spawns next to me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Bluebird

October 11th, 2006, 12:09 AM

Jurri said:
I'd say 10 is plenty. Someone gets ahead, you pull him back to the gutter. (15 would be in line with the number of players and the number of VPs, though.)

It is not easy to "pull back" someone with cumulative VPs. There is only "being faster".

I am also for 20 points at least. 10 VPs is definelty too small. Also, I think the game starts in Spring, right? VPs are awareded in Summer, right? Thats why I wrote 1/2 years. It should be even less ...

Jurri

October 11th, 2006, 12:17 AM

Ah... I'm Mr. Popular it seems. It is certainly quite flattering to have my very own fanclub! I shall dub it 'Bottomfeeders - the Jurri fanclub' and Boron will be the chairman.

Bird: you can always stall someone back by taking his VPs away: that means he won't get any more points, while others are. Thus, he is pulled back relative to others. Especially since VPs are not in the capital provinces, they should be grabbable if you're dedicated enough. Not to mention that there are 12 whole turns to grab the VPs after scoring them once. That said, I've naturally not played with them yet, so I'm talking outta my *** here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

JaydedOne

October 11th, 2006, 12:50 AM

Please private message me if another game gets rolling. This is what I get for working through the past few days. ;-)

Cainehill

October 11th, 2006, 02:15 AM

You sure they're only counted every 12 months? Remember a _lot_ of things have been described as happening every season, every year, etc, when they occur every month.

Edit : Just tested, and it does occur each summer. Oddly, even with VPs in capitols, capitols don't display a VP symbol, when they probably should.

PashaDawg

October 11th, 2006, 02:43 AM

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Jurri and I have considered the VP issue closely. Not that we are the big dogs on the block (or at least he isn't)... but here is what we figure:

There are 274 Prov total. 227 land & 47 sea. That is about 18 prov per VP. That's a lot. It will be hard to have a big empire early on.

In any case, after playing out a scenario, we figured that a 13 winning score would be better than 10. It will better ensure that the game does not end TOO quickly unless a player is the total cat's meow.

So, unless there are a lot of objections, the winning score will be 13. That is, DAWG'S LUCKY NUMBER 13!!!

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PashaDawg

October 11th, 2006, 02:45 AM

Kristoffer O

October 11th, 2006, 03:02 AM

> Edit : Just tested, and it does occur each summer. Oddly, even with VPs in capitols, capitols don't display a VP symbol, when they probably should.

Known bug. Fixed recently IIRC.

Edit: so it might be unfair to have VPs in capitols. I don't remember if it is just the display or if they are actually missing.

PashaDawg

October 11th, 2006, 09:22 AM

Cainehill has decided to switch to Tien Chi.

So, if one of the current players would like to switch to Argatha, just let me know.

I think all players now have the game. So please get me your pretenders by 9:00 pm Boston Time tonight. Then we will start!

PashaDawg

October 11th, 2006, 01:29 PM

A player has requested a little extra time for pretender design due to work concerns today. So, we might start the game tomorrow morning instead. After all, this is just a game, and it's better that we get a good start so everyone has fun! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Shovah32

October 11th, 2006, 02:26 PM

Switch me to agartha please (this free's up patala), that extar design time will help.

KissBlade

October 11th, 2006, 02:58 PM

hmm... tempted to swap to patala. Can I lay temporary claim to both? =)

PashaDawg

October 11th, 2006, 03:24 PM

Ok. Shovah - You're Agartha.

Kissblade - you're free to hold Patala and Jomon, but please decide quickly in case someone else wants Patala or Jomon.

And, of course, don't forget to send me your pretenders, and be sure to password protect them! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

KissBlade

October 11th, 2006, 03:59 PM

I'll claim Patala. I have a pretty nifty weird strat with them. =) Of course it can fail and cost me the game hehe ...

Cainehill

October 11th, 2006, 04:00 PM

Kissblade : if you're keeping Jomon, please say so - I'd love to grab Patala (sucked having last choice http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

KissBlade

October 11th, 2006, 04:03 PM

heh look above.

PashaDawg

October 11th, 2006, 04:44 PM

You want Jomon, Cainehill?

Cainehill

October 11th, 2006, 04:50 PM

Nah - looked at them, but will stay with the Barbarians.

Shovah32

October 11th, 2006, 05:05 PM

I would love jomon so now agartha is free aswell (it and dreamland were my 2 main choices with atlantis a close third)

PashaDawg

October 11th, 2006, 05:13 PM

Ok then. Shovah... you are hereby appointed as Jomon.

djo

October 11th, 2006, 06:06 PM

Woo-hoo! It all works out for djo!

I had last choice in the first round, and Agartha was one of my first choices!

I hereby claim Agartha and relinquish Marignon. My pretender will be emailed by 7 or 8 pm EDT tonight, guaranteed.

In case of any further confusion or delay, Pasha has permission to use my already-mailed Marignon pretender.

PashaDawg

October 11th, 2006, 06:38 PM

Ok! djo, you're Agartha! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

KissBlade

October 11th, 2006, 08:40 PM

haha... anyone want to do more musical nations?

PashaDawg

October 11th, 2006, 10:40 PM

Hi:

Just waiting on pretenders from:

Cainehill (Tien Chi)
Dragonfire11 (Caelum)
shovah (Jomon)

Cainehill requested a reasonable extension until tomorow morning, because he just got the game. Please get your pretenders in so we can start tomorrow.

Thanks.

Pasha

Cainehill

October 12th, 2006, 03:44 AM

lol - musical nations indeed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Just got home from work (midnight), having some Elsa's Hop Elixir (awesome double IPA made next door to work, 9 percent alcohol or so), and working on my TienChiChi pretender. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Cainehill

October 12th, 2006, 06:47 AM

Pretender sent - first email didn't go, used new one and I _think_ it went. Pasha, let me know if you didn't receive and I'll resend asap. (As soon as I wake up more likely http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

PashaDawg

October 12th, 2006, 09:58 AM

I woke up to no power today. So, I don't know if I have all pretenders, etc. Hopefully, things will be in order by the time I go home for lunch.

Pasha

PashaDawg

October 12th, 2006, 01:57 PM

Hi All:

I have received pretenders from all players except shovah (and all other players who needed extra time requested extensions).

I'd like the game to start tonight. If I don't have shovah's pretender by tonight at 6:00 pm Boston time, then someone else will be welcome to have his slot.

If there are any players who would like join this game in case shovah does not send in a pretender in time, please let me know and send me a late era pretender for either Jomon, the Giants, or Marignon.

Pasha

quantum_mechani

October 12th, 2006, 02:13 PM

If shovah doesn't claim his spot, I'll take it with Marignon.

Ygorl

October 12th, 2006, 02:59 PM

QM, maybe we'll start next to each other again! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Morkilus

October 12th, 2006, 04:18 PM

Awww, I'm totally missing my chance to play with the King of the Wyrms and the King of the Blitz. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

okiN

October 12th, 2006, 04:22 PM

Morkilus said:
Awww, I'm totally missing my chance to play with the King of the Wyrms and the King of the Blitz. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Hang out in the IRC channel more, you'll have plenty of chances. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

PashaDawg

October 12th, 2006, 07:39 PM

Ok. I received shovah's pretender at 2:30 pm today. He has saved his slot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

PashaDawg

October 12th, 2006, 08:21 PM

Turn 1 is out.

Deadline is Friday night at 9:00 pm Boston Time.

Pasha

djo

October 12th, 2006, 08:44 PM

Should we start the trash-talk now, or should we wait until we see who our neighbors are?

PashaDawg

October 12th, 2006, 08:51 PM

Get trashy!

I hear that the "pretender" of Agartha is soooooooo lame, even his insane mother denies attending his conception. <bah dum dum>

Ygorl

October 13th, 2006, 02:00 AM

I realized last night (It's been an exhausting couple weeks!) that DDD, the name of this game, has 3 Ds... and the game we're playing could be called D3... Wow!
Pasha is clever.
That "Enemy of Infants" loser, though... Come on! How lame a pretender do you have to be that the most impressive thing you've got going for yourself is that you fight with babies?

Daynarr

October 13th, 2006, 02:58 AM

I think he considers the rest of pretenders infants, but I could be wrong.

KissBlade

October 13th, 2006, 03:01 AM

Aww... crap, I just playtested Patala... results were not as great as I had first assumed. =(

okiN

October 13th, 2006, 07:00 AM

PashaDawg said:I hear that the "pretender" of Agartha is soooooooo lame, even his insane mother denies attending his conception. <bah dum dum>

Excuse me, did I hear someone say "insane"? That's funny, because insane is exactly what all of you posers are going to be long before I'm through with you! The very essence of your existence will be strained and tortured, your mind left naked to writhe in agony, unable to comprehend the horrors to which it has been subjected.

You better hope you die, fools!

Bluebird

October 13th, 2006, 07:32 AM

All you pretenders are belong to me!

Jurri

October 13th, 2006, 09:16 AM

What about those 'Teachers of Philosophy', or that 'Lord of Poetry and Song'. Man, they are begging for a wedgie in this crowd, the nerds!

Bluebird

October 13th, 2006, 11:58 AM

A wanna-be god is a wanna-be god is a wanna-be god is a Mictlan blood-sucking god.

Boron

October 13th, 2006, 01:40 PM

He Jurri the satanist has exactly 666 posts now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

PashaDawg

October 13th, 2006, 01:50 PM

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I have it from a very reliable source that the sick blood-sucking "pretender" from Mictlan is addicted to wedgies. In fact, the mysterious hole in Mictlan's financial records was the direct result of the "pretender" from Mictlan shamelessly funding his habit by raiding Mictlan's treasury every weekend.

Ulm hereby moves that an independent committee be set up to investigate this closely on behalf of the Mictlan subjects, who are the real victims in this scandal!!

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Shovah32

October 13th, 2006, 01:50 PM

KissBlade said:
Aww... crap, I just playtested Patala... results were not as great as I had first assumed. =(

Thats why i didnt want them anymore http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif The nagini are fairly nice but the naga troops are fairly poor.

PashaDawg

October 13th, 2006, 07:24 PM

Turn 2 is out.

Deadline is Saturday at 9:00 pm Boston time.

Pasha

PashaDawg

October 14th, 2006, 11:42 PM

Hi All:

One player's turn is not reading as being played (Midgaard). So, I will give him a chance to send the turn again tomorrow morning. Sorry for the delay.

Pasha

Cainehill

October 15th, 2006, 01:47 AM

I would've been _hoppy_ (IPA lover thing) to take Patala. But _no_, someone wanted them on a whim....! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

coobe

October 15th, 2006, 07:47 AM

damn send the wrong savegame... im sorry guys http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

PashaDawg

October 15th, 2006, 09:23 AM

Turn 3 is out.

Deadline is TONIGHT at 9:00 p.m., if possible (even though we got the turn out late). However, if players are not able to get their turns in, then we will extend until tomorrow.

Pasha

PashaDawg

October 15th, 2006, 11:54 PM

Turn 4 is out.

Deadline is Monday night at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

PashaDawg

October 16th, 2006, 11:52 PM

Turn 5 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday night at 9pm Boston time.

okiN

October 17th, 2006, 06:17 AM

What's with this Nature fellow? Are his national troops really so weak that he must rely entirely on brigands and sellswords to fill his armies? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Bluebird

October 17th, 2006, 07:27 AM

Naa - he is just a kid that cannot find any friends to play with. So he has to buy somebody to play with him.

WraithLord

October 17th, 2006, 09:56 AM

okiN said:
What's with this Nature fellow? Are his national troops really so weak that he must rely entirely on brigands and sellswords to fill his armies? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

More like looking for attention, and it looks like its working http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

WraithLord

October 17th, 2006, 10:14 AM

Who's leading Mictlan to extreme expansion? -
That unique fingerprint of ubber expansion only belongs to one player AFAIK.

*Shudders* from memories of RAND, of being pounded by his blood loving Marignon.

And lo and behold he's also playing RAND2 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Caduceus

October 17th, 2006, 10:25 AM

Our DSL provider (Bell South) went down last night at around 11:30 PM and is still out this morning. More bulletins as events warrant.

Jurri

October 17th, 2006, 11:57 AM

The media greatly exaggerates the expansiveness and overall evilness of Mictlan. You should instead look towards the VP-graphs for your vicious hatemongering! Just who are these guys who don't hesitate to grab the lead?

(Izaqyos, I hope you haven't suppressed the memory of the Ermor/Pythium showdown in the game before RAND http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif That was fun, even if playing Ermor feels emptier inside.)

Shovah32

October 17th, 2006, 01:23 PM

Feel free to resend my turn, i seem to have some problems with the file.

PashaDawg

October 17th, 2006, 02:30 PM

Hi Shovah:

I just sent your turn again. Hopefully, it will work!

Pasha

WraithLord

October 17th, 2006, 05:01 PM

Jurri said:
The media greatly exaggerates the expansiveness and overall evilness of Mictlan. You should instead look towards the VP-graphs for your vicious hatemongering! Just who are these guys who don't hesitate to grab the lead?

(Izaqyos, I hope you haven't suppressed the memory of the Ermor/Pythium showdown in the game before RAND http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif That was fun, even if playing Ermor feels emptier inside.)

How can I possibly forget?- I may even have the game files saved somewhere on my HD...

We should do a nostalgia thread where ppl will talk of their exploits and defeats in glorious past MP games http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Seriously though, I'm looking forward for this game to develop.

Caduceus

October 17th, 2006, 10:19 PM

Turn posted to Pasha - Internet has returned. Praise to Hermodyne!

PashaDawg

October 17th, 2006, 11:29 PM

Turn 6 is out.

Deadline is Wednesday night at 9pm Boston Time.

Pasha

coobe

October 18th, 2006, 09:50 AM

hah im already dead.... to my left mictlan and to my right man. no room for expanding http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif(

WSzaboPeter

October 18th, 2006, 12:09 PM

I got only turn 5. Are you sure turn 6 is out? Thanks a lot.

Cainehill

October 18th, 2006, 01:42 PM

Turn six went out last night, sometime around midnight Eastern Standard.

PashaDawg

October 18th, 2006, 01:51 PM

Hi WSzaboPeter:

I think you're confused. Your not playing this game (unless you're also known by a different name).

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Caduceus

October 18th, 2006, 06:10 PM

Pasha - I am running late today. I will endeavor to get to my turn tonight, but it may be 10:30 or 11:00 EST before I can get to it.

PashaDawg

October 18th, 2006, 07:21 PM

Ok - - I will wait.

KissBlade

October 18th, 2006, 07:43 PM

coobe said:
hah im already dead.... to my left mictlan and to my right man. no room for expanding http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif(

Don't forget 1) you can sail, 2) you can just expand into Mictlan!

PashaDawg

October 18th, 2006, 07:48 PM

Yes! Expand into Mictlan! Excellent idea. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

PashaDawg

October 18th, 2006, 11:19 PM

Turn 7 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night at 9:00 pm Boston time.

Pasha

Jurri

October 19th, 2006, 08:35 AM

Such... unbridled hate! coobe: everyone (with the possible exception of the underwater lout) has at least 2 neighbors out of a geographic necessity, so you're hardly unique.

Pasha and KB, you really should take a good look at what you're doing: is it really alright for you to suggest assisted suicide to an impressionable fellow like coobe as an answer to his problems? Why, he might actually do it, and then what would you do? Could you shoulder the responsibility? Think about it, you two, and renounce your wicked ways before it's too late!

PashaDawg

October 19th, 2006, 08:54 AM

Bah! Silence Wyrmtongue! Coobe is a tiger not a kitten!

Shovah32

October 19th, 2006, 03:58 PM

I think big bad jurri is scared http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

okiN

October 19th, 2006, 06:33 PM

Yo, WraithBoy, where'd all your mercs go? They peg you for a loser and skedaddle with your money? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Jurri

October 19th, 2006, 06:37 PM

Wouldn't you be, Shovah, wouldn't you be?

I mean, sure, I can put on a brave face and say that you'll get yours even when I'm driven into a cage match with a tiger (not a kitten), but deep down inside I'm just a poor scared wretch.

I could even go so far as to growl in anger something overtly aggressive and low-brow, like I'll devour both the dogboy and KissButt and defecate them all over the rest of you who wish me ill, but that would be just posturing. Likewise, I could curse you for calling me a coward, Shovah, perhaps with some colorful rhetoric involving your empty little head crushed under my bare feet, but wouldn't that be just overkill over some insignificant quip?

Peace out /threads/images/Graemlins/Peace.gif

KissBlade

October 19th, 2006, 06:41 PM

Heh ... sssssuch cssiviltiessss already Jurri? The Nagahsss are nothsssing more than sssimply sssuggesssting for our Vanheim brethren not to be ssso disssmayed. ~_^

Shovah32

October 19th, 2006, 08:24 PM

Silly jurri, you forget that my head is no longer empty as i filled it with jello at the end of my last game! *laughs maniacally*
Your soul shall be thrice cursed and when your mortal form is banished from this realm by the mighty forces of jomon your very essence shall burn in torment for eternity (or you could kick my ***, your choice big guy)

PashaDawg

October 19th, 2006, 11:36 PM

Wackberry Jello perchance?

PashaDawg

October 19th, 2006, 11:37 PM

Turn 8 is out.

Deadline is Friday night at 9:00 p.m. Boston time.

Pasha

djo

October 20th, 2006, 09:26 PM

Eww...who's dumping garbage in the ocean? It keeps washing up on Agarthan shores.

Remember, mental hygiene is good hygiene! If you see mad dreamers, kill them! The mind you save could be your own!

PashaDawg

October 20th, 2006, 10:12 PM

Turn 9 is out.

Deadline is Saturday night at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

Jurri

October 20th, 2006, 10:15 PM

Trippy, my PD underwater is actually the same as on ground, despite the manual's different claim. Some quite good divers Mictlan has...

Ygorl

October 21st, 2006, 03:39 AM

Can anyone explain to me why our esteemed host's uptight fanatical iron-bound meat-heads are outpacing everyone else in terms of learnin'?
It makes my bone'n'ice-addled noggin hurt just trying to make sense of it.

PashaDawg

October 21st, 2006, 09:27 AM

Dear Atlantis:

We in the Great Dominions of Ulm prize education because we recognize it as the foundation of our nation's prosperous future! It is sad that the children of Atlantis still learn their ABC's from stick scratchings in the dirt.

Ulm: Where children are the life blood of the nation!

Lord Ulricht,
Chief Vampire Lord and Ulm Minister of Education

YellowCactus

October 21st, 2006, 10:41 AM

****Shudder****

If that's your educational slogan, the world isn't prepared for an Ulmish anti-drug champaign.

So how does this version play compaired with Dom2? I'll be ordering this week unless a credible source (You guys) convince me Dom3 isn't worth the money.

-yc

-yc

Ygorl

October 21st, 2006, 12:22 PM

YellowCactus, I at least can't do that. It plays nicely.

Shovah32

October 21st, 2006, 12:25 PM

Its worth it and so much more. Possible reasons for fast ulmish learning: rainbow pretender, indy mages, research items or merc mages.

PashaDawg

October 21st, 2006, 02:07 PM

It's definitely worth the money!

PashaDawg

October 22nd, 2006, 12:20 AM

Turn 10 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night at 9pm Boston Time.

KissBlade

October 22nd, 2006, 12:05 PM

hehe I fear an early ko for me, Ashen Empire is gunning for me >_>.

Jurri

October 22nd, 2006, 12:51 PM

Boron, you nasty nasty boy! What kind of a demon would harm those cute little Monekeys? No dessert for you tonight, mister!

PashaDawg

October 22nd, 2006, 09:42 PM

Turn 11 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday at 9pm Boston Time.

Pasha

Boron

October 24th, 2006, 10:50 AM

Jurri said:
Boron, you nasty nasty boy! What kind of a demon would harm those cute little Monekeys? No dessert for you tonight, mister!

Lol you teaching me moral. At least i don't kill my followers in cruel blood sacrifices, mine are already (un)dead http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif.

Kiss is not yet dead btw, i did not attack him full force, i am experimenting a bit. And breaking down his capitol's walls will be annoying also http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif.

PashaDawg

October 24th, 2006, 01:54 PM

Typical! TY-PIC-AL!!!!

The Evil Fetid Ermorean Smear experimenting on the poor, peace-loving apes! Disgusting!

KissBlade

October 24th, 2006, 02:00 PM

Boron said:

Jurri said:
Boron, you nasty nasty boy! What kind of a demon would harm those cute little Monekeys? No dessert for you tonight, mister!

Lol you teaching me moral. At least i don't kill my followers in cruel blood sacrifices, mine are already (un)dead http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif.

Kiss is not yet dead btw, i did not attack him full force, i am experimenting a bit. And breaking down his capitol's walls will be annoying also http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif.

Patalan reports that Ermor indulges in necrophilia. And Ermor indeed does not kill their followers in cruel blood sacrifices. They just kill them for fun. =)

Shovah32

October 24th, 2006, 02:56 PM

Hmm, ermor sounds a lot like me. Aww crap, did i say that out loud?

Cainehill

October 24th, 2006, 03:33 PM

KissBlade said:
And Ermor indeed does not kill their followers in cruel blood sacrifices. They just kill them for fun. =)

What's wrong with a little good clean fun? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

PashaDawg

October 24th, 2006, 07:32 PM

Turn 12 is out.

Deadline is Thursday night at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

djo

October 24th, 2006, 08:19 PM

Help! I'm surrounded by mad squid!

Anyone not wanting to see the evil mad dominion of R'lyeh capture the victory point that rightfully belongs to me, please send gold/gems/items to Agartha. We will remember you should god ever wake up.

Seriously, they're all over the place. Help me! You could be next! I'm talkin' to you, Arco!

okiN

October 25th, 2006, 06:21 AM

Hey, don't you go around spreading lies like that, I've given you everything you could possibly want! I haven't attacked you, I let you have the VP between us, I even deliberately left you an open path for expansion on-land so you wouldn't feel boxed in. I really can't understand where this hostility you feel stems from, but I must say I'm starting to feel a bit threatened, which can't be good for either of us.

The same applies to you, Caduceus: I see no reason why we couldn't be friends. I gave you the VP between us as a peace offering and have made no hostile moves. You stay on your side of the border, I'll stay on mine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

PashaDawg

October 25th, 2006, 09:08 AM

Hmmmm... someone is lying with his eyes while his hands are busy working overtime! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

okiN

October 25th, 2006, 10:54 AM

Why, that's a perfect summary of what djo is doing! Well put, PashaDawg, well put.

PashaDawg

October 25th, 2006, 01:54 PM

Hmmm... Oh! Ulm is not saying WHO is doing the lying... we are not sure if we can trust either the insane fiends of the watery deep or the odd ones from the rocky deep! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/skull.gif

YellowCactus

October 25th, 2006, 02:10 PM

I've ordered the game, please add me to your sitter list....
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
-Yc

djo

October 25th, 2006, 06:15 PM

I think I'm feeling threatened because of the SOUL-SUCKING INSANITY DOMINION pressing in on all sides. And you've got a pretender and I don't (that can't be fair). And all those...things...on my border. (What are they, anyway? Frogs? People? Frog-people? That ain't right, either...people and frogs aren't supposed to be mating, no sir.)

Red candles all over (shudder).

I think the insanity is already starting.

okiN

October 25th, 2006, 06:45 PM

Look, man, how is it our fault that your people are turning to our religion? I think it's time for some serious introspection here.

I won't lie, the cult of Ganon has a very attractive benefit package.

Furthermore, I think it's completely disgraceful that you go around poking your big, fat nose into the affairs of the citizens of R'lyeh. What they do in the sanctity of their bedrooms is no business of yours whatsoever, and you'd do well to remember that.

As for them residing on the border, I'd like to take this time to inform you that we here in R'lyeh believe in freedom. Freedom of choice. Those people are there because they want to be there. Perhaps they admire the mountainous scenery or enjoy the brisk, coastal air. Unlike you, we don't pry into the private lives of our citizens, and frankly we'd rather you didn't, either. If you don't love freedom, that's your choice, but you'd better give us ours or there'll be hell to pay.

Good day, sir.

djo

October 25th, 2006, 07:58 PM

R'lyeh? Choice? Pfah! Why, it was not too many moons ago that I was walking down the street (one of our long, straight, beautifully paved underground streets), when a clean-cut gentleman in a white suit handed me some interesting literature in the form a self-published pamphlet. He was convinced that the end of the world was nigh, and that the apocalypse would come "gibbering, from the sea, in squamous, leprous, bulbous, creeping horror". As any sane man would do, I said, "Pshaw!" and walked on.

But then the frog-people started coming on-shore, with their odd languages, and odd cooking, and none of them working or paying taxes, either. Suddenly I realized the truth of what that kind gentleman was saying, and thus we swore: R'lyeh would be burned to the ground, or should be burned were it not underwater. That small point gave me some mental contortions for some time, I may say, until I realized we could do just as well by burying that twisted city under piles of very heavy rocks, of which we have many.

In conclusion, I think my carefully reasoned arguments will sway any intelligent man/woman/beast/wyrm/etc. of the essential truth of the matter: R'lyeh is evil, we are good, and...wait...no, that about sums it up.

Signing off,

Agartha

okiN

October 26th, 2006, 01:19 PM

Ah, so that's it. The cat's out of the bag and what it all comes down to is racism and Agarthan xenophobia. You don't speak our words and our food doesn't suit you so you deem yourselves superior. Our anarchist utopia is beyond the comprehension of your rock-filled brains so you fear us, and to overcome that fear you slander and threaten us, trying to turn the world against our people.

We are peaceful folk, but our patience is not endless. Bite your tongue, worm, or face the consequences.

PashaDawg

October 27th, 2006, 12:05 AM

Turn 13 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

djo

October 27th, 2006, 06:56 AM

You know, I see a lot of words, but all I hear are bubbles of hot air popping as they rise from the deeps. Blah, blah, blah.

By the way, worms are the slimy things with no arms or legs. You know, like your worshippers. Or some of them. We have heard from good authority that many of your so-called sacred beings have too many arms/legs/tentacles, while others have too few. We, the good people of Agartha, all have the proper number of limbs (4).

okiN

October 27th, 2006, 11:00 AM

So be it. We extended our hand in friendship, but you would bite it as does a rabid cur. We have no medicine to cure the malignant rancor that plagues your minds and are forced to abandon hopes of amity between our two peoples. Nevertheless, we wish to... avoid needless bloodshed and will forgo the complete and utter extermination of the Agarthan taint that has afflicted the world for so long as the decision is in our hands.

You would do well to consider your future actions more carefully than you have your words up to this point.

PashaDawg

October 29th, 2006, 01:56 PM

Turn 14 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

KissBlade

October 29th, 2006, 07:01 PM

Ah does no one help poor Patala against Ashen Empire's mighty armies? =)

PashaDawg

October 31st, 2006, 08:41 PM

Turn 15 is out.

Deadline is Thursday at 9pm Boston Time.

Pasha

Shovah32

October 31st, 2006, 09:34 PM

I think thats a negative there KB

djo

October 31st, 2006, 10:07 PM

KissBlade said:
Ah does no one help poor Patala against Ashen Empire's mighty armies? =)

They will all rue the day...the dead came looking for the monkeys, and no one listened to their high-pitched girly-shrieks. The Agarthans called for aid, in their deep, manly, cavernous voices, but no one heeded our words. Near 500 madmen and squid stand on our borders, and no doubt thousands of dead stand on your borders, but still the others ignore us. They will regret it. When the end comes for them, they will wonder, why didn't we help Agartha? Why did we let them perish? Surely some kind neighbor will assist us, now that the hideous hordes of dead madmen slosh against our castle walls.

But those cries will not be answered, for you let all your neighbors die.

The moral of the story: the coastline of a penninsula 2 hops away from LA R'lyeh and its awake pretender is, to put it mildly, not a good starting position.

PashaDawg

October 31st, 2006, 11:10 PM

Is Agartha truly at war?

okiN

November 1st, 2006, 07:12 AM

If they are, then it is a war we know nothing about. We are merely mustering the forces who were standing idly by on Agartha's borders. No hostile action has been taken and there is no cause for alarm.

Edit: Correction! My scouts have just informed me that the vile Agarthans have launched an unprovoked sneak attack, violating the sanctity of R'lyehian soil.

We take this to be a declaration of war and will respond accordingly.

PashaDawg

November 1st, 2006, 10:24 AM

Truly a dastardly sneak attack? The media reports from the Ulm News Network (UNN) are sketchy. Any other news?

okiN

November 1st, 2006, 10:37 AM

Yea, verily, a dastardly sneak attack of the highest order executed by thundering pachyderms.

In other news, the pathetic speck of lint known as Agartha is soon to be brushed from the face of the Earth. Their armies will be destroyed and their populace slaughtered like so many swine for a midsummer feast. Let them serve as an example to the world at large of the fate of those who would commit unprovoked aggression against the people of R'lyeh.

djo

November 1st, 2006, 06:23 PM

okiN said:and there is no cause for alarm.

Apparently we of Argatha have overly anxious personalities. We found the 500 illithids and mad dreamers and ghost king on our border to be rather alarming.

The attack was not a sneak attack. Elephants do not "sneak". It was an unprovoked attack.

Given that it's that time of year again, when the universe updates the score in the great game of life, we presumed to assume that, presumably, we were about to be attacked anyway.

In summary, R'lyeh bad, Agartha good. I hope that clears everything up.

okiN

November 1st, 2006, 06:36 PM

The illithids were just passing through, the dreamers were about to be ferried away to do battle with independent forces and the ghost king was searching for magic sites (Which he found, as you can see from the gem graph). Until this vile act of Agarthan aggression, that is.

Furthermore, I daresay any open act of aggression not preceded by a formal declaration of war is to be regarded as a sneak attack.

You were in no danger of being invaded. You had no reason to fret on behalf of your precious "victory point" given the great big fort you'd built on it.

And yet, you attacked.

R'lyeh, on the other hand, has taken no hostile measures against any nation and has tried its best to maintain friendly relations with all the peoples of the world.

I must say, as primitive as your Agarthan minds are, your twisted logic is entirely beyond our comprehension.

PashaDawg

November 2nd, 2006, 11:40 PM

Turn 16 is out.

Deadline is Sunday at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

KissBlade

November 3rd, 2006, 06:05 PM

Umm... I already patched it.

PashaDawg

November 3rd, 2006, 08:40 PM

Ugh! I discovered that my backups of turns was misprogrammed, although I have fixed it.

However, this means that all players must play Turn 16 WITHOUT the patch. I will then patch the game and host on Sunday. After you play Turn 16 without the patch, you are then free to patch to 3.1.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

Pasha

Bluebird

November 3rd, 2006, 08:51 PM

Hey, Jurri, this last turn was fun!

PashaDawg

November 3rd, 2006, 09:51 PM

Give us the dirt!

Jurri

November 3rd, 2006, 09:58 PM

Well, you certainly upped your PD at an opportune time, Bird! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif And here I thought I'd teach you the hard way to put that 1 point always no matter what...

okiN

November 3rd, 2006, 10:52 PM

Has war broken out between Mictlan and Man?

Bluebird

November 4th, 2006, 01:09 AM

Well - no - I just got a looooong list of scouts that tried to take over my provinces. In once case, they even succeeded ;-)

BTW, you tripple bless F9W9S9 eagle warriors are really scary.

Boron

November 4th, 2006, 02:17 AM

When do we patch to 3.01?

Jurri

November 4th, 2006, 02:32 AM

I oppose on principle: the patch ruins my turkeys http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

...not really. I'd prefer to run this turn with the old version just to avoid redoing it, but see no reason not to upgrade for the next. This will also allow for any newly introduced game-crashing bugs to reveal themselves over the weekend http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

thejeff

November 4th, 2006, 02:44 AM

Wait, what happened to the turkeys?

Ygorl

November 4th, 2006, 02:58 AM

Their mighty mesmerization morphed into merely madness.

PashaDawg

November 4th, 2006, 04:39 AM

I would ask that all players NOT patch until after I host Sunday's turn. Or, I could reinstall a backup turn and patch and then rehost the current turn.

The game manual says that players should not patch until the host patches. (If people have already patched, then I should rehost the last turn with the patch.)

Pasha

Boron

November 4th, 2006, 11:28 AM

KissBlade said:
Umm... I already patched it.

Hm the patch seems to only change 4 maps + the exe, so keeping a backup of old 3.00 exe should be enough.

Jurri

November 5th, 2006, 09:44 AM

This (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=467272&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) makes me want to postpone patching.

PashaDawg

November 5th, 2006, 11:03 AM

Hmm. I tend to agree with Jurri. The patch seems to have a bug that makes a nasty horror attack heros who are not horror marked. This could be very frustrating for some players.

What do other players think?

KissBlade

November 5th, 2006, 01:15 PM

As I've pmed you about, I obviously require the game to be patched.

WraithLord

November 5th, 2006, 03:40 PM

I'm for posptponing patching.

djo

November 5th, 2006, 03:57 PM

On one hand, I have already patched and would rather not deal with installing a 3.0 version. I think random rampaging horrors are a feature, not a bug.

On the other hand, I don't have any heroes, and I expect to be defeated very soon now.

okiN

November 5th, 2006, 04:15 PM

djo said:I think random rampaging horrors are a feature, not a bug.

Johan K tends to disagree.

djo said:On the other hand, I don't have any heroes, and I expect to be defeated very soon now.

Hey now, don't toss in the towel yet! Especially since the Hunter of Heroes is likely to pick up my GK any month now, you might be able to do something before I manage to stamp you out entirely. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

djo

November 5th, 2006, 05:27 PM

Oh, I know it's unintentional and been classified as a bug. I just like it anyway. I'm upset I haven't seen it in my SP games yet.

(I'm not actually near defeat. I am experimenting with a "besiegement" strategy. So far it is going well--I have two forts under siege. I expect my schemes to bear fruit any time now.)

okiN

November 5th, 2006, 05:53 PM

Hey, at least you have your elephants! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

PashaDawg

November 5th, 2006, 11:40 PM

I am of the view that it might add some spicy fun to patch and have a few horrors crash the party for a bit... until the next fix.

Any player strongly against patching?

Cainehill

November 6th, 2006, 12:50 AM

PashaDawg said:
I am of the view that it might add some spicy fun to patch and have a few horrors crash the party for a bit... until the next fix.

Any player strongly against patching?

Yes, simply because it's one of the patches that introduced more, bigger, problems than it fixed.

calmon

November 6th, 2006, 09:31 AM

To prevent people crying and stop playing because their pretender dies in a horror attack in turn 2 i would prefer a start without the patch.

But here we've the problem that i'm not sure that all players could install a second 3.0 Version of the game.

An illwinter coment about a hotfix would be very good!

EDIT: wrong thread but possible same problem http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

PashaDawg

November 6th, 2006, 09:52 AM

I have received all turns for turn 16, but I am going to delay hosting until Tuesday to give more time to discuss whether to patch or not patch. Players seem to be nearly equally split.

Some players would get fixes with the patch. Others are concerned that it creates more problems.

Boron

November 6th, 2006, 01:29 PM

I am indifferent.

3.00 or 3.01, i am fine with both.

PashaDawg

November 6th, 2006, 03:08 PM

Ugh! Now, I am coming around to thinking it would be best to NOT use the patch. I know that is very inconvenient for some players. However, it sounds like the horror-bug could seriously frustrate players and spoil the fun.

I know that some players would benefit from the patch's fixes, but I think it is more appropriate to stay with the current "broken" game rather than introduce new problems.

Shovah32

November 6th, 2006, 03:20 PM

Well ive already patched aswell (several days ago) so i would prefer to either play with the patch or just wait until there is a fix for the horror bug (however small the fix maybe, just reducing the frequency might help) but in the end, its not up to me.

Jurri

November 6th, 2006, 03:38 PM

It really is not that hard to revert your installation: you'll just need to install the game to a temp directory and copy the dom3.exe to your previous installation. You'll avoid inputting CD-keys, reinstalling maps and whatever, takes a couple of minutes at most, and even less if you can multitask something while the installer confirms itself and copies the files. Take the chance to make copies of both the patched executable and the unpatched one under dom301.exe and dom300.exe in your folder and make suitably named shortcuts to both while you're at it and you can play whichever version you need.

To not be willing to take that measly amount of trouble to secure the enjoyment of those who have valuable commanders on the HoF (like those fellas with their SC-pretenders) certainly sounds pretty petty to me. (Not to mention that having to avoid the HoF with your important commanders that aren't there yet makes for weird gameplay indeed.)

Even if we really fail to get folks to revert, I suggest you go ahead and continue hosting with the old version: At worst someone will get a [censored] up battle-replay when my turkeys attack, and at best no one will even notice.

okiN

November 6th, 2006, 04:31 PM

I definitely think unpatched is the way to go. The doom horror bug outweighs the improvements.

Cainehill

November 6th, 2006, 06:17 PM

Agreed.

djo

November 6th, 2006, 06:55 PM

I'd rather stay patched. Think of it as an equalizer. I mean, there weren't any other issues besides the hero horror, were there? Just think of it as a really bad random event. Suck it up and do the best with what you've got left.

WraithLord

November 6th, 2006, 07:12 PM

I think we need to summarize ppls votes and get to a decision based on the majority.

so far we have:
For patch, 3:
KissBlade,
Shova32,
djo

Against patch, 6:
Jurri,
Pasha,
WraithLord,
Cainehill,
Calmon,
okiN

3 for patch, 6 against.
I suggest not to patch.

KissBlade

November 6th, 2006, 07:14 PM

Actually it was 6 and 6, with one undecided vote the last time I got updated about the vote. Not all players posted their wish here.

Boron

November 6th, 2006, 09:21 PM

Hm i am selfish now and vote vor using patch 3.01 too, after all my immortal god shouldn't be affected by the horror http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif.

PashaDawg

November 7th, 2006, 12:47 AM

Ok.

The mighty HOST has decided, after consulting with various players, that we will not use the patch for now.

Hopefully, a new patch will come out soon.

Pasha

Varjostin

November 7th, 2006, 04:03 PM

PashaDawg said:

The mighty HOST has decided, after consulting with various players, that we will not use the patch for now.

Fine decision. At least from my point of view because my pretender is number 1 in HoF http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif. Even though the issue is already settled, I vote just in case for NOT to patch.

PashaDawg

November 7th, 2006, 08:55 PM

Turn 17 is out.

Deadline is Thursday at 9pm Boston Time.

Pasha

PashaDawg

November 9th, 2006, 11:23 PM

Turn 18 is out.

Deadline is Sunday night at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

djo

November 10th, 2006, 12:00 AM

Hearty laughter echoes through the deep Agartha caverns...we still live!

What's that wet slap-slap noise we hear? Weak, floppy, fish-tentacles pawing uselessly at our thick walls? Hope you like the weather out there, guys, you won't be getting in anytime soon. Remember to bring a flashlight, it's dark in here...

okiN

November 10th, 2006, 06:28 AM

May I draw your attention to your auxiliary fort? That is, the one whose gates have just been breached by my men? I daresay it won't be yours for much longer, and with the reinforcements your capital should fall shortly after.

Flashlights will not be necessary, we who dwell at the bottom of the ocean are no strangers to darkness.

Enjoy the time you have left, worm. The end is nigh.

Jurri

November 10th, 2006, 12:12 PM

It's fairly disturbing that Dreamlands of all things is fourth in income... Then again, I understand the population loss -effect of its dominion is not working quite as intended (as in, it doesn't scale with dominion), so I guess it's not that surprising after all. By way of conjecture, it's no wonder at all that they can afford to hire the mercenaries...

djo

November 10th, 2006, 08:06 PM

We have no auxilliary fort and never did. We deplore this obvious ploy to boost the sagging morale of your troops by inventing fictious victories over (of all people) us, your peace-loving neighbors.

Cainehill

November 11th, 2006, 01:45 AM

Maybe they found and "conquered" one of your outhouses? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

okiN

November 11th, 2006, 01:26 PM

Yeah, an outhouse that looks just like a forest castle and appears in the worldwide fort statistics. That's the ticket. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

You can talk all you want, Agarthan fool, but the truth of it is that you're getting nowhere fast. Feeling sorry about invading us yet? Eh?

As for you, Jurri, that's quite a poor attempt to draw attention away from yourself and the fact that you're the single most dangerous entity in the game. Do not insult the intelligence of these fine people.

Turin

November 11th, 2006, 02:06 PM

Jurri said:
It's fairly disturbing that Dreamlands of all things is fourth in income... Then again, I understand the population loss -effect of its dominion is not working quite as intended (as in, it doesn't scale with dominion), so I guess it's not that surprising after all. By way of conjecture, it's no wonder at all that they can afford to hire the mercenaries...

From what I can tell from my single singleplayer experience, the population loss is pretty much a nonfactor. I had a growth3 dominion and even with heavy 200% taxes usage for most of the game my pop was still at 15k at turn 80.

So dreamlands gets tons of freespawns, free prophets, lots of gold and those wonderful void thingies.

Jurri

November 11th, 2006, 07:46 PM

You hear that, okiN? Sounds to me like you are trying to hide your advantages from the public eye! I mean, sheesh, you have both a functional economy and freespawn, which is certainly counter to any nation seen before, and counter to what the manual and in-game information would have us believe of Dreamlands. Admit it! You're only trailing behind me in graphs because you want to make it seem like you're not the biggest threat! Bring me my torch and pitchfork! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Ygorl

November 11th, 2006, 10:21 PM

From what little I've seen of Dreamlands, okiN has all the pitchforks...

okiN

November 12th, 2006, 07:56 AM

Ygorl said:
From what little I've seen of Dreamlands, okiN has all the pitchforks...

I'm just waiting for the time when you all realize Jurri is going to win this game to start handing them out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

PashaDawg

November 12th, 2006, 11:20 PM

Turn 19 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

PashaDawg

November 15th, 2006, 12:33 AM

Turn 20 is out.

Deadline is FRIDAY at 9pm Boston time.

(I am going to be at a conference Thursday and Friday.)

Pasha

KissBlade

November 15th, 2006, 12:48 AM

Ouch ... well looks like I'm dead soon >_<

Boron managed to get scads of Crystal Mages (like 15+)

Ygorl

November 15th, 2006, 01:45 AM

So what did he do with those 15+ crystal mages?
I saw from the score graphs that he killed a lot of gorillas, but how did he do it?

KissBlade

November 15th, 2006, 02:28 AM

Gift of heavens =)

Ygorl

November 15th, 2006, 02:34 AM

OUCH!
That's why I stay underwater, when I can. Those meteors are a lot easier to dodge when they're drifting though a couple miles of ocean.

Bluebird

November 15th, 2006, 06:41 AM

First real battle between Man and Mictlan - and it is: a draw, with hords of dead soldiers lying on both sides of the battlefield. How bloody ...

WraithLord

November 15th, 2006, 01:11 PM

Yummy, more details please http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

djo

November 15th, 2006, 07:59 PM

Fear the mighty Agarthan war machine! Do you see that sudden drop in R'lyeh's army size? Do you? We did that. A handful of loyal Agarthan defenders slaughtered hundreds of the slime-ridden invaders.

We warn any other who would dare oppose us: you could be next. Beware!

Jurri

November 15th, 2006, 08:13 PM

Not bad, Bird, not bad at all! Of course, that was only the feeler while my real army is underway... Now would be the time for you to start shrieking in terror for my amusement, Man, for soon I shall cut your tongue and your heart, and how are you going to shriek without those, huh?

Bluebird

November 16th, 2006, 12:38 PM

WraithLord said:
Yummy, more details please http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

It was early morning on the fields of Fairgrove. The army of Man was on the march to retake the control over the farmlands from the evil forces of Mictlan. There were defenders and archers of Man. Even a small group of Wardens had joined the ranks. In total, the army was made up of roughy 120 men and was lead by Bluebird, the Brilliant God, and legitimate ruler of this province.

On the other side of the battlefield stood the forces of Mictlan. There was a large group (around 100) of local militia troops - not really worth to mention, except for their strange, colorful costumes and the slings that they were carrying. About half of them fled after the first blast of arrows hit them from the archers.

But then there were the actual forces of Mictlan, that had just arrived from a conquoring raid to the north. They were lead by Rumbler, the prophet of Mictlan - a former scout and vicious character that would do everything to please his foul master. The troops contained around a group of foul spawns, ugly inbreeds originating from Mictlan experiments, 30 eagle warriors and 11 jaguar warriors.

Jaguar and eagle warrior are fanatic fighters for the cause of Mictlan rulership. The were immediately blessed by the prophet, giving them supernatural powers beyond the forces of men: increased attack and defense skills, flaming weapons, magic resistance, quickness and - most important - a twist in faith that will yield the first hit aginst them useless.

The eagle warrior, now blessed, directly approached the archers and slaughtered them. Every body kept on fireing against these warriors, archers with arrow, wardens and defenders used their crossbows. There were heavy losses on both sides.

Then the jaguar warriors clashed with the wardens. The wardens gave their best, but it is hard to fight an enemy that will transform into a beast once he is killed. Mictlan militias were trying to help the jaguar warriors, but actually did more damage in the own rankes through the inpricise aim of their slings.

In the end - after most Wardens were dead - the tide turned and the defenders started rushing forwards. The Mictlan army was retreating. A hard-earned victory for Man. Now it is time to bury the dead.

Boron

November 16th, 2006, 02:37 PM

KissBlade said:
Ouch ... well looks like I'm dead soon >_<

Boron managed to get scads of Crystal Mages (like 15+)

Turn AI http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif.

You are way too persistent for my liking, almost as evil as Caine http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif.

Boron starts wailing long elegies about all the research Kiss's persistence costs him. Boron starts wailing even longer elegies about how bad it is to play a game with cumulative VPs.

See, now you achieved your goal Kiss. You made me cry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif.

okiN

November 16th, 2006, 02:54 PM

Boron said:Boron starts wailing even longer elegies about how bad it is to play a game with cumulative VPs.

Yeah, I don't reckon I'll be playing any more of 'em either. It's just not for me.

Ygorl

November 16th, 2006, 02:55 PM

The oppressed conqueror, bemoaning his griefs and lamentations. I love it!
This is exactly the kind of stuff these forums are made for. YellowCactus, take notice.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I'm excited, since there isn't a sadder, more tragic nation out there than late Atlantis - we've even got a shock unit called "Mournful" - so when, inevitably, we get caught up in some conflict, there will really be some gnashing of teeth!

Cainehill

November 17th, 2006, 04:44 AM

Boron said:
You are way too persistent for my liking, almost as evil as Caine http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif.

Boron starts wailing long elegies about all the research Kiss's persistence costs him. Boron starts wailing even longer elegies about how bad it is to play a game with cumulative VPs.

Wait, you _don't_ like cumulative VPs? Best damn thing to happen to the game imo - makes for more of a dynamic game than before. Maybe it sucks in some ways to be the guy with 23 out of 25 CVPs, as everyone gangs up on you, but hey, it always sucks to get ganged up on - but after you lose your VPs, they should stop ganging on you.

Hmmm - actually, anyone else think the score graphs need a new display? How many VPs everyone has, as opposed to how close to winning by cumulative VPs?

(And I'm not evil!!! Well, maybe I'm evil - but I'm not persistent! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

Boron

November 17th, 2006, 10:51 AM

Cainehill said:
(And I'm not evil!!! Well, maybe I'm evil - but I'm not persistent! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

I like to play the british way, slow and methodically http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.
So obviously i dislike VPs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.

Cainehill said:
(And I'm not evil!!! Well, maybe I'm evil - but I'm not persistent! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

Sure you are persistent http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.
Remember the game where you were Pan and i Tuatha?
Or the game were you were Pan and Aku Ctis? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Hm i have not gotten the new turn btw, is the new turn already out and i have a problem with my email client or was there a delay?

Jurri

November 17th, 2006, 12:04 PM

PashaDawg said:
Turn 20 is out.

Deadline is FRIDAY at 9pm Boston time.

(I am going to be at a conference Thursday and Friday.)

Pasha

Boron

November 17th, 2006, 05:10 PM

Ah thanks Jurri.
Well i am still on my mtw-flush, so easy to overlook such well hidden announcements camouflaged as post http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.

PashaDawg

November 18th, 2006, 01:51 AM

Turn 21 is out.

Deadline is Sunday at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

KissBlade

November 19th, 2006, 10:01 PM

Boron said:

KissBlade said:
Ouch ... well looks like I'm dead soon >_<

Boron managed to get scads of Crystal Mages (like 15+)

Turn AI http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif.

You are way too persistent for my liking, almost as evil as Caine http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif.

Boron starts wailing long elegies about all the research Kiss's persistence costs him. Boron starts wailing even longer elegies about how bad it is to play a game with cumulative VPs.

See, now you achieved your goal Kiss. You made me cry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif.

Hah! I may lose but the price you pay for attacking me will be long and bloody =). You will truly know what it means to have a pyrrhic victory!

PashaDawg

November 20th, 2006, 12:31 AM

Turn 22 is out.

Deadline is Tuesday at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

Bluebird

November 20th, 2006, 07:17 AM

Well - at least once I managed to really defend an attacking force of Jurri, but I do need support now.

Altough I can take down his troops sometimes, in the long run I do not see that I can withstand the constant rush of triple-blessed sacret troop. I need help and I need it soon ...

Jurri

November 20th, 2006, 08:45 PM

Interesting... I found a Kelp Fortress, yet the fort displayed is a Cave Castle. Nobody storm that one, it might break something! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

PashaDawg

November 21st, 2006, 11:47 PM

Hi:

There is something wrong with Kissblade's turn. It is not reading as having been played. So, I will give him a chance to resubmit. I will wait until morning or so.

Sorry for the delay.

Pasha

PashaDawg

November 22nd, 2006, 09:48 AM

Still working with Kissblade to correct the problem with his turn. I expect that I will be able to host by tonight if not sooner.

Pasha

PashaDawg

November 22nd, 2006, 02:28 PM

Turn 23 is out.

The deadline is STILL Thursday at 9pm Boston time in spite fo the delay.

Thanks.

Pasha

djo

November 22nd, 2006, 06:35 PM

We have now seen the true colors of R'lyeh--a cowardly yellow (with queasy pink accents). Whilst our defenders were piously studying the holy books, the aggressors managed to claw a hole in our castle walls. But did they dare to enter? Pfah! They did not. The mighty Agarthan war machine remains undefeated.

One thing we must note, however...in the past we would not have thought the mindless masses of mermen wise enough to make this kind of decision (saving their skins by not challenging us). We congratulate them on being slightly less stupid than we had imagined, and we apologize for any undeserved insults regarding their pea brains, we may in fact be as large as walnuts, or small plums.

PashaDawg

November 23rd, 2006, 11:37 PM

Turn 24 is out.

Deadline is Sunday at 9pm Boston time.

Pasha

Bluebird

November 24th, 2006, 04:54 AM

Jurri: Holy [censored]! These troops are EVIL ... and thanks for all the fish.

okiN

November 24th, 2006, 07:09 AM

We have offered the fools in Agartha one last chance to lay down their arms, repent their sins and convert to the true faith. They have rejected this opportunity and shall pay for their wrong-headed spitefulness with their lives.

Let them serve as an example to those who would do wrong by us in the future. The mercy and patience of R'lyeh are not without limits.

djo

November 24th, 2006, 12:03 PM

In R'lyeh, "patience" must be a synonym for "cowardice". For months we have awaited their assault, but instead all we hear are the annoying poets of R'lyeh reciting their national epics to the troops in the hopes that some of them will take heart and try to storm the castle.

Hey, guys, here's a thought. Don't go making threats if tiny little bacteria and viruses are killing more of us than your troops are.

okiN

November 24th, 2006, 12:34 PM

You will do well to remember those words when you die at the the hands of our warriors of the deep, with your souls torn from your lifeless bodies or your minds driven insane and left to writhe in agony.

Hearken, knave, for your last chance to surrender is past. The time for battle is come and Death awaits you.

Make your peace with your makers while you yet live. Next month you will live no more.

Jurri

November 24th, 2006, 12:55 PM

Djo: surely you realize that the chicken of the sea intends to dominion-kill you, and will soon succeed? This is very well your lastest turn on this planet, so make it count, won't you? (That, or put a hole lotta preachers to work already.)

KissBlade

November 24th, 2006, 01:11 PM

Darnit ... missed my turn because of thanksgiving =(.

Shovah32

November 24th, 2006, 01:57 PM

Missed my (rather important) turn because my internet were down.

djo

November 24th, 2006, 02:28 PM

Jurri said:
Djo: surely you realize that the chicken of the sea intends to dominion-kill you, and will soon succeed?

Fear not, the entire membership of the August Society of Learned & Pious Necromancers are chanting day and night to prevent that eventuality. And unless R'lyeh makes a move, soon god will awaken, and then it's a whole new ballgame. I think. The worshippers are kind of hazy at this point as to what god looks like, or what his powers are. It's been a long while.

Anyway, it's kind of sad, really. Hundreds of foul slimy things outside the walls, afraid of a handful of old men (many of them diseased). You've got to wonder if R'lyeh has any sense of pride whatsoever. But who are we to tell them how to run an empire?