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rsolow
November 14th, 2006, 06:02 PM
I am looking to take advantage of the Dragon Master Spell. These spells should work with it:

Summon Fire Drake
Summon Cave Drake
Summon Ice Drake
Summon Wyvern

1) But, what about the spell "Iron Dragon" (page 175) -- will that work with Dragon Master ???

2) Are there any spells other than those I listed that work with Dragon Master

Shovah32
November 14th, 2006, 07:13 PM
Im not sure if there are any others but im almost certain dragon master wouldnt work with iron dragon or tarrasque.

Folket
November 14th, 2006, 07:20 PM
Seems very strange that is does not work with Tarrasque.

B0rsuk
November 14th, 2006, 07:23 PM
Folket said:
Seems very strange that is does not work with Tarrasque.



Yes, it should work for dragon pretenders, too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Endoperez
November 14th, 2006, 07:29 PM
1) I haven't tested it, but I don't think so. Iron Dragon is a construct, after all.

2) Not to my knowledge. I'm fairly certain it doesn't affect Tarrasques.

Folket
November 15th, 2006, 05:51 AM
It seems Thematical that it would work with Tarraques. They are dragons after all. Iron Dragon is just a mimic.

Shovah32
November 15th, 2006, 02:30 PM
But i thought the spell specifically says drake or wyvern?

Uh-Nu-Buh
November 15th, 2006, 10:04 PM
There is only one Tarrasque, I believe--so it shouldn't work with Awaken Tarrasque. Just summon spells, just dragons.

Yes summon Wyvern.
No construct Iron Dragon.
No awaken Tarrasque.
No construct Apocalyptic Bone Dragon.

Cainehill
November 16th, 2006, 03:59 AM
Eh - believe that's AD&D thinking there. Pretty sure I've had multiple tarrasques in one MP game some time ago, had some fun empowering them in multiple magic paths so they could do fire shield, cloud trapeze, etc. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Louie_Calamari
November 16th, 2006, 08:06 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarasque

Uh-Nu-Buh
November 16th, 2006, 08:07 PM
Dom II, I'm pretty sure a new Tarrasque took the place of old Tarrasque. I actually tried it on purpose once, but it has been 2 years so maybe I am misremembering. I haven't tried this in Dom III yet.

I'll give it a try if one of my current games allows.

NTJedi
November 16th, 2006, 08:48 PM
Uh-Nu-Buh said:
Dom II, I'm pretty sure a new Tarrasque took the place of old Tarrasque.



Actually that wasn't the case... I recall having done gift of reason on multiple Tarrasque and having them fight side by side in battle.
If only one can be summoned in Dom_3 then this is a new change. Hopefully the dragon beast was improved if only one can exist.

mivayan
November 16th, 2006, 09:34 PM
Tarrasques are identical to dom2, except the path requirement, as far as I can tell. Definately not a unique summon.

Uh-Nu-Buh
November 17th, 2006, 12:59 PM
When I can test it, I will post the result.

calmon
November 17th, 2006, 01:35 PM
I've tested it, it only works for wyverns and drakes (like the description said).

Only 1 Tarrasque and only 1 iron drake per cast.

Shovah32
November 17th, 2006, 01:57 PM
Well in dom2 atleast ive had 10+ tarrasques in a single battle so they definitely were not unique then, i doubt if its been changed since then but its possible.

Cainehill
November 18th, 2006, 02:21 AM
Shovah32 said:
Well in dom2 atleast ive had 10+ tarrasques in a single battle so...



Those were tarrasques??? I thought those were someone's ex-girl(/boy/beast)friends! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

LeSquide
November 21st, 2006, 07:15 PM
Sadly, it doesn't appear to work with Sirrushes, either.