What flags would you like to see most in SEV?

[MarkSheppard]

Linka (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=477318&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

I've already done the artwork involved for a request to have WW2 Italy and Germany's flags in the game.

[Slick]

What a great idea!

If not already on your list:

major countries
states
jolly roger
pro sports team logos
sci fi (starwars empire, rebellion; star trek, etc)

I would think that you wouldn't have to create these from scratch, more like copy/paste then touch up.

[President_Elect_Shang]

Are these the full sized or reduced in size versions? If you are not sure what I mean take a look at the TNZ Small Flag Mod. Most people seem to prefer the small size and it helps to reduce the strain SE5 places on our computers.

[Baron Grazic]

Hi Mark,
I've just PM'ed a request to you.
Hope its not too much to ask.
Thanks

[MarkSheppard]

Full size; but I can make a script to resize them to the reduced format pretty quickly.

[Kana]

Maybe you can turn some of these into flags...

[President_Elect_Shang]

Kana said:
Maybe you can turn some of these into flags...



Dude you have a hummingbird in there! And dolphins! You have a hummingbird and dolphins in there! Oh man I don’t know you anymore. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Kana]

Dont forget the Wigwam and the flowers...

No I downloaded these from the Civilization forum...I figured someone with some modeling talents and some artistic impression can turn these into some nice flags...

[Randallw]

This thread is exactly like one I contribute to for flags within another game I play, Hearts of Iron 2:Doomsday. If you want I can use my templates from that format to make flags with a wavy crease. I used one of them when making the Terran empire flag I use

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/Randallw_2006/AuCol_flag_set.jpg

[MarkSheppard]

New in 1.4
Ayers Rock (for Baron Grazic)
Victoria Bitter Booze (for Baron Grazic)
Battlestar Galactica (new series)
China now has proper naval jack
Cobra (GI Joe)
WW2 Italy
Nazi Germany
Pirate
West Germany
East Germany
Imperium of Man now has a race portrait.

Go to the thread to d/l it.

[Baron Grazic]

Fabulous - the Uluru (Ayers Rock) one looks great.
Thanks.

[Fyron]

Personally, I'd like to see new, creative flags more than just real country flags.

[Atrocities]

Starwolf
All the Star Trek ones.
Star Wars - (just keep a low profile, don't want to get sued.)

[Ed Kolis]

Heh, speaking of getting sued, you might not want to put a disclaimer to members of the community located in Germany - isn't it illegal to possess Nazi flags there? Possessing one even in digital form I imagine might be quite dangerous...

[Fyron]

Yeah, but noone in Germany can sue Mark over it; he isn't subject to such repressive anti-freedom laws. (unless he is actually German)

[Atrocities]

I thought Germany gave up its repressive anti freedom ways after the Nazi were defeated. To say you cannot own a Nazi flag, a part of German history, well its like saying country folk, and red necks, cannot own the Confederate flag. Its unthinkable!

Wait until the ACLU and other anti white hate pro-kill whity racist groups get wind of the idea that you can BAN a flag. They will jump on the "ban the confederate flag" band wagon so fast that it'll seem like they had scram jets on.

[President_Elect_Shang]

I wouldn’t label it as repressive; each culture is entitled to their own mores even if we [Americans] don’t agree with any repression; even those born from a stigma.

[President_Elect_Shang]

Atrocities said:
Wait until the ACLU and other anti white hate pro-kill whity racist groups get wind of the idea that you can BAN a flag. They will jump on the "ban the confederate flag" band wagon so fast that it'll seem like they had scram jets on.



They tried and won with restrictions against the State, but not the people! Each individual American is free to fly the CSA flag even if your neighbor wants to shot you for it.

God Bless America my home sweet home! Or as my high school history teacher used to say: “This I’ll defend till God himself relieves me of duty”. Mr Orr ca~1985.

[Fyron]

It has nothing to do with mores; it is the very definition of repression (2 a : a mental process by which distressing thoughts, memories, or impulses that may give rise to anxiety are excluded from consciousness and left to operate in the unconscious b : an item so excluded). Nazi memorabilia is distressing, and they seek to repress the memories of WWII atrocities by erasing the presence of its historical artifacts. German social mores may generally find that particular repression acceptable, but it doesn't change the fact that it is repression. But this is getting way off topic from the point of this thread...

[Atrocities]

The thing about Nazi symbolism is that much of it has significant historical value long before the Nazi's twisted it into symbolism of evil.

I however wouldn't want to see a flag for SE V that has anything to do with Nazism.

Back On Topic.
There are over 300 ship sets out for SE IV, many with very cool race emblems that would be great adaptations for SE V.

[Ed Kolis]

Those who forget history (or try to wipe it away by repressing it) are doomed to repeat it...

[Kana]

It nice to know that any simple thing can turn into a discussion about politics and what not...how about the weather next...

[Atrocities]

Back On Topic.
There are over 300 ship sets out for SE IV, many with very cool race emblems that would be great adaptations for SE V.

[Suicide Junkie]

Weather /threads/images/Graemlins/ArrowRight.gif Global Warming /threads/images/Graemlins/ArrowRight.gif Regulations /threads/images/Graemlins/ArrowRight.gif Politics

[AAshbery76]

A WW2 galactic war scenario sounds cool.I will play the Germans.

[Atrocities]

Awsome, I will play the French!

[Suicide Junkie]

CarrierBattles #8 on PBW is much like that...
ZA is playing the French, poor guy.

Darkant and Violist have dissappeared off the net, however, so we need somebody to take over as the Americans, and another for the Germans.

At the moment the Eastern powers have more territory and are on the offensive, but the west is starting to fight back.
ZA's centrally located empire lies in ruins (industry demolished, but possible to recover given time and military protection from the west.)

[President_Elect_Shang]

Kana said:
It nice to know that any simple thing can turn into a discussion about politics and what not...how about the weather next...



Cloudy all day! It hasn’t rained but everything is still damp.

Atrocities: Would you like to surrender now or wait till the day before the game starts? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

[Baron Munchausen]

How about a collection of corporate logo based flags? It might be amusing to play wars among computer manufacturers, for example. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Kana]

You know after the resturant wars, there is only Taco Bell...

[Atrocities]

"Happy happy joy joy."

[Santiago]

Enron flag anyone?

[Atrocities]

Santiago said:
Enron flag anyone?



No I would rather have the Nazi flag. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif:(

[Fyron]

Kana said:
You know after the resturant wars, there is only Taco Bell...

Damned Stalone and Snipes...

[Santiago]

I cannot agree with you on that.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Canadian flag!

[President_Elect_Shang]

Atrocities said:
"Happy happy joy joy."


Their funny but you know who I would like?
Here’s a hint:
“I can’t here you!”
Still can't guess? Check the attachment.

[The Gnome]

OMG! A restaurant wars theme would be absolutely freaking hysterical. Flags:

McDonalds - The evil Empire, let by some clown
Taco Bell - A race of evil Chihuahua's
KFC - The Colonel is coming for you!
Burger King - That Burger king guy and his legions of poorly dressed workers.

I could keep going but actually have work to do....

[Kana]

Well there are rumors of a Space Food Empires game...but I think that is just propoganda against the Balance/Kwokstock mod...

[MarkSheppard]

Canadian flag!

Already in.

MS vs Linux, lOL I'll have to do that.

[Captain Kwok]

Kana said:...Well there are rumors of a Space Food Empires game...

No idea where those came from... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

http://www.captainkwok.net/pictures/sfe-fleetshields.png

[Kana]

Can't wait to see the fiction behind it all, and new fan fiction based on games played...

[Kana]

Hey Mark want to take a crack at these for me...?

[Kana]

*BUMP*

Hey Mark, you still out there?

[se5a]

I think these all need race portrates in them too...
I keep getting errors when I go into the combat simulator and I'm guessing it's because there's no race portrates in these folders.

[Kana]

If that is true, then being able to pick you portrait, your shipset, and your flag seperately in empire creation is not going to work...

[se5a]

I've confirmed it.

What's happening is that the simulator grabs random race portrates for the populations for cargo. since these folders don't have race portrates it throws up errors.

You can pick portraits shipsets and flags seperatly.

[Kana]

Maybe a filler portrait...Or I guess ship/flag sets will have to be race related...

Speaking of which is it the flags or the shipsets that provide the portrait?

[se5a]

huh?

why would ship/flag sets have to be race related?

filler portrates for now would be fine.

what do you mean? the flags, ships, and race portrates all go in the same empire folder.

[Kana]

I'm just rambling...I have no idea where they go...

After further review this is what I've gleamed...

There are two places that have flags. There is a Picture/Flags Folder with 15 race flags, and 12 Alliance Flags. There is the Empires folder with 14 Stock Empires with 14 flags and 14 portraits, 10 Neutrals with 10 flags and 10 portraits, and 1 default with no flag or portrait.

This leaves us with a total of 51 stock flags, and 24 portraits between two different areas. I would assume that any extra flags would go into the Pictures/Flags folder. These are with out any connection to a empire folder or portrait. These means that there is something wrong in the simulator code somewhere. Which of course you have already pointed out, yet I dont think it has to do with the fact that there are flags without portraits, just in how the simulator finds the flags, and portraits.

[se5a]

NOOooo don't put flags empire flags in teh flag folder! that's for allience flags only!
(it screws up multiplayer games if you do)
I'm not sure what the race flags in teh pictures/flags folder are... I assume it's something to do with quickplay races?
anyway, ignore the pictures/flags folder.

this flags set is basicly "neutral" empires, and as such they need race portrates.
look at it again.
stock empires - 14
neutral empires 10
is 24 portrates.

I've never seen it look for defult portrates, it's probibly hardcoded not to look in this folder for portrates.

[se5a]

ok maybe I'm wrong...
maybe the race flags in the pictures/flags folder are where this flagset should put them. if so though, they should be named raceXX_flag_texture.bmp
if this is the case then BG did put the ayres rock flag in teh right place, and aaron forgot to get it to look for annother one if it couldn't find it.

[MarkSheppard]

Yeah I'm still here sorry for going silent for a bit

[MarkSheppard]

Someone needs to tell Aaron that we'd like to see the "pictures/flags" directory actually gain some functionality, e.g. we can dump stuff into them and see them show up.

I've tried renaming stuff

"Race16_Flag_Set.bmp" in the hopes that it would be recognized by the game, but no go

[MarkSheppard]

AHA! I fixed it!

Apparently the

GameTypes\Shep's SE5\Pictures\Flags

thing does NOT work

You have to put stuff into

SE Compilation\SE5\Pictures\Flags

for it to work.

[Santiago]

How about some of the revolutionary war flags- Don't Tread on me, Gadsden flag etc.

[MarkSheppard]

Working on v2 of the Flagtastic mod; major update, a couple more flags; but there will be "tiny flag" and "normal flag" versions now....

[Atrocities]

A pirate flag would be nice, also one that sported the Confederate red neck orange, blue and white.