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BigDisAwesome
April 30th, 2007, 08:09 PM
Well I believe I'll be setting Bandar Log to AI this turn. I had a ton of fun playing my first MP game. GG Kojusoki, it was loads fun fighting you and I learned a good bit about how I should have been planning ahead more.

Kojusoki
May 1st, 2007, 10:57 AM
BigDisAwesome - you pissed me of several times, killing my brand new angels, fully equiped http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif and when you anihilated my whole army while I was "libereting" Ulms lands;)

And your GOD... wrrr:) Once I was so upset that I wanted to switch to AI http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

It was a lot of fun having such an opponent - now its time on Caelum;)

PS
If it was your first MP game - Im impressed!
PS2
Soon we are going to play an another game so it would be nice to have you as a "neihghbour":)

Kojusoki
May 3rd, 2007, 04:56 PM
New patch has come - what is the situation on server? Is it already patched?

Velusion
May 3rd, 2007, 05:12 PM
It is not patched. Once the turn hosts I will take down the server to patch it. Do not connect to this server with 3.08 until I let you know.

WraithLord
May 3rd, 2007, 05:13 PM
I suggest that no one patch until we get the word from Velusion. And just in case make a copy of your dom3.exe prior to installing the patch.

Velusion
May 3rd, 2007, 11:16 PM
WraithLord said:
I suggest that no one patch until we get the word from Velusion. And just in case make a copy of your dom3.exe prior to installing the patch.



From what I understand there are patches to multiple files in this one... so to really backup your 3.06 install you need to backup the entire dom3 folder.

WraithLord
May 4th, 2007, 04:34 AM
Which I haven't done http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Good thing I had already posted my turn before upgrading.

Velusion
May 4th, 2007, 10:08 PM
Server has processed the turn and is back up with 3.08. Make sure you have the patch!

Hadrian_II
May 10th, 2007, 05:34 PM
The Administration of Tien chi reports, that we killed a Queen of Air of Oceania. As we are not able to summon her this turn, we want to inform all other nations of this possibility. As supplement there are 2 Ice Devils of Pangea also avilable for summoning.

We have to inform everyone that Oceania is massing a great amount of SCs and Troops, and may soon become unstoppable, so we urge every other nation to take action before it is too late. We want also Pangea and Caelum to remember, that even if it feels safe to lick oceanias boots, that same boots, might soon kick them.

btw. i dont really like SCs and i dont like to fight water nations, and now i have to fight a water nation with SCs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

Blofeld
May 11th, 2007, 08:11 PM
My my, what a grand feat of propaganda. You'd think Arco would know better and have more pressing matters on their hands, like war against Pythium than risk their necks for Tien Chi.
Yet they fall for it and throw away artifact-equipped tartarian and wished-for destroyer of worlds in haphazard attacks against me.
Way to go, Arco! Keep'em coming, we need some exercise after all. You've really been mightily hoarding those artifacts and pearls, by the way. Shame they got wasted.
Attempts to sow discord between my trusted allies and me are too laughable to dignify them with an answer.

Hadrian_II
May 12th, 2007, 08:43 AM
Blofeld said:
Attempts to sow discord between my trusted allies and me are too laughable to dignify them with an answer.



I just want your puppets to remember that only one god will ascend.

Blofeld
May 13th, 2007, 01:35 PM
Behold Arcoscephalian champions, so futilely expended.

Blofeld
May 13th, 2007, 01:35 PM
And the other.

Hadrian_II
May 15th, 2007, 03:04 PM
we have a arch and a ice devil killed, so you might summon them.

Blofeld
May 19th, 2007, 08:01 PM
Server seems to be down

Velusion
May 19th, 2007, 08:11 PM
Yep.. .I'll be home in a few to see whats up.

Kojusoki
May 20th, 2007, 12:45 PM
Please, forgive me this SPAM, but the Minister of Flaming Industry and Minister of Foreign Trade asked me to announce the following message:

"The Flames over their heads" Ltd. is pleased to offer you an outstanding chance to get rid of your enemies. We have in our possesion weapon of mass destruction we are ready to share with those who understand its value. Those who are interested and can afford 50 gems (no matter kind, except astral) will be asked to transfer them to our bank account and to give us the number of the province that has to be cooked. Every 5th use is for free, so buy 4 get 1 free.

One important thing: the offer is not valid on our lands;)

cupido2
May 20th, 2007, 06:20 PM
Bah! And there was complaining about a small donation for the godfather for a good cause and now there is a wanna-be-godfather who sells nukes on the forum and nobody goes and crushes him in a 4-nation-alliance.

Hadrian_II
May 20th, 2007, 06:32 PM
cupido2 said:
Bah! And there was complaining about a small donation for the godfather for a good cause and now there is a wanna-be-godfather who sells nukes on the forum and nobody goes and crushes him in a 4-nation-alliance.



i suppose this is the difference between barter and blackmail

Kojusoki
May 20th, 2007, 07:12 PM
exacly - this is just a trade offer. Satisfaction guaranted. You get what you buy etc

Cupido - there is also a difference between those who are a "regular mafia" and those who play with nukes - you know what I mean http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Kojusoki
May 23rd, 2007, 05:49 AM
I regret to inform all the Nations that Oceania has already broken our Non Aggression Pact and invided our lands. This is the second time in this game, Oceania invides the Marignon without the war declaration, but this time even when the NAp WAS active... We are terrible sorry about this as we thought Oceania finally become a honorable neighbour...But we were mistaken. Beware then. You will never know when they attack you also...
Hereby, we declare a holy war to the Oceania and we strongly suggest that all the Nations should start war campaign againts them. Also those, who are at war with Ryleh, the only real opponent for Oceania under water, should stop their hostilities and even start supporting Ryleh in their war in the depths. We can easly crush them on the surface, but in the depths Oceania is and will be undefeatable. Ryleh is the only chance to stop their supermacy.

Blofeld
May 23rd, 2007, 01:06 PM
A turn ago, one of my provinces was attacked with 20 damage spells, including multiple Flames from the sky.
Since:
1. Marignon on several occasions in the past remarked the province was a very tempting target
2. The attack coincided with Marignon's "nukes for sales" offer
3. Graphs recorded a significant decrease in Marignon's research on that turn
4. One more Marignon's hero entered the HoF with multiple kills
5. Marignon profited from gem recycling with his nexus being put on the same turn

I believe there is strong circumstantial evidence to blame Marignon for the attack, hence my limited response.
My response did not constitute 20 assasination spells as alleged by Marignon elsewhere, I suspect these should be attributed to public gratitude for casting nexus.

Kojusoki
May 23rd, 2007, 02:52 PM
So, as you can see, there is NO EVIDENCE we did this (somebody is laughing at the moment...). Also, there were a lot of assasination attemts on my provinces. Also, we cast NEXUS 2 turns ago so we spent a lot of gems to cast it - we ceratinly didnt have enough to cast those things on Oceania. However now we have... Yes, one of our heros joined HoF - we have cast ONE Flames but on Caelum... Decreased research? Yes - we are making some usefull toys for our angels... Gem recyckling? Yes, but forging items counts as well.

Also, while signing a pact, we agreed ONLY not to invide our territories - so EVEN if we would cast anything - or sent assasins - if there is no evidence, the pact cannot be broken. Hoverer we DID NOT do this... and Oceania DID.

But it was broken, so in my opinion Oceania was just waiting for a proper moment - we had NAP 5 so it is quite a moment for making a good defence - and they didnt whant us to be preapared...

Kojusoki
May 29th, 2007, 12:26 PM
Well... I can only say: "Congratulations" to all the nations that supported Caelum creating Nexus. I could understand Ocenia and Pangea (as they are allies od Caelum) but they have lost a lot of money as they own a lot of provinces...
But certainly I cannot understand others... Good deal guys, you made a wise decision http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

JayThomas
May 29th, 2007, 03:28 PM
R'lyeh is no more. Only a single large army wandering around is left. It is starving and troops are deserting.

A most terrible end for the tenticled ones.

This was my first multiplayer game that I started and finished. I learned alot and thanks Velusion for hosting.

Blofeld
May 29th, 2007, 04:41 PM
Kudos to R'lyeh for a great fight. The battle at your capital can only be described as epic. See you on another battlefield!

Re: Nexus, well Oceania's been paying the gem dividend. The prospect of a single player hoarding the entire Nexus income is as ghastly as Utterdark if not worse.

Velusion
May 29th, 2007, 04:54 PM
Blofeld said:
...The prospect of a single player hoarding the entire Nexus income is as ghastly as Utterdark if not worse.



Does that mean that Oceania isn't exactly a big supporter of his allies casting of UD? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

Velusion
July 12th, 2007, 03:09 PM
Manuk has missed two turns. I'll be looking for a replacement today I suppose.

Sensori
July 13th, 2007, 01:46 AM
Hey guys, I'm the new guy for Arcoscephale. Nice to meet you and apparently take a firm boot in my face on entrance!

Utterdark and ... What the hell. Velusion was right. This game IS strange. Might take a few, um, days to figure out what am I supposed to be doing. ;p

Velusion
July 13th, 2007, 02:02 AM
This game as what we call character.

The weirdness doesn't stop at Caelum casting Utterdark... trust me!

Sensori
July 13th, 2007, 02:38 AM
It'd also be nice to know about the diplomatic situation a bit more. It sure looks like I'm at war with Pangaea, but I can't be sure because no attacks took place this turn.

Confusing, indeed.

Sensori
July 13th, 2007, 06:31 AM
...

I just got off saying that at least no one had AC up in this game, because it's been in 2 of the 3 games I've subbed in, and now it was 2/2.

WRONG. NOW IT'S IN 3 OF FOUR HAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHasfjklasjfhfaslfkas

I. SERIOUSLY. HATE. YOU. FOR. CASTING. THAT. SPELL. RIGHT. WHEN. I. START. SUBBING.

OK, with that I've let some steam off. But I *HATE* THIS BS. None the less.

EDIT: Actually, thanks to this I don't think I wanna sub anymore. So like, Velusion, sorry, but you need to find a new guy again. This AC BS just won't work for me for a THIRD time (second time though that it was casted RIGHT when I started subbing). It got old the first time I ran into it like this in Tempest. Now, as I've reached the third time of running into this turd of a spell in a subbing job it's so annoying that I just want to bash people's skulls in.

Me being tired might have something to do with me being absolutely furious about this, but quite seriously, I don't want to continue subbing now that it's on.

Velusion
July 13th, 2007, 11:51 AM
*le sigh* I lost wayyyy too many decked out casters this turn because of the AC bug. I'm pretty close to throwing in the towel after that.

Baalz
July 13th, 2007, 11:59 AM
AC bug = takes effect the first turn before anybody knows it's been cast?

Velusion
July 13th, 2007, 12:33 PM
Yep. In this case it was high in the casting order so it affected pretty much everything cast.

WraithLord
July 14th, 2007, 06:07 AM
@Sensori, I take it you seriously don't want to sub for Arco?- Though BTW, something tells me that AC won't be up for long.

@Velusion, in case Arco is stuck w/o a stub how would you like to proceed?- leave it to stale or change it to AI or maybe you've had something else in mind?

Sensori
July 14th, 2007, 06:44 AM
Sure, it might not be up for long, but considering the damage done already, no, I don't want to play Arco anymore. I'm sick and tired of subbing in games where AC screws up stuff and rarely even helps the player who actually casted it.

WraithLord
July 14th, 2007, 08:48 AM
I can surely sympathizes with your sentiment, though I think if AC does so much damage to enemy players this in itself is quite a good thing for the casting player.

Sensori
July 14th, 2007, 09:12 AM
Heh, it usually also causes a lot of animosity in even the casting player's allies. I've yet to see a single soloing AC caster actually WIN a game, too. It's also pretty funny in the way how it seems to more often than not end up helping the wrong side, rather than the side the caster expected it to help.

Of course, it's entirely possible that since Caelum is in an alliance, the others in it knew and by extension so did you, but you just figured to withhold that information so it'd cause as much damage as possible to Arco, too. ;p

(EDIT: And I meant that as a not serious "accusation"! I always forget that people may actually take these things seriously, when that was not quite what I meant. But I still hate AC to pop up like that and don't want to sub as a result.)

WraithLord
July 14th, 2007, 04:47 PM
Very well.

In that case I would like for any possible Arco sub to know that we are *not* at war. In fact, Manuk and myself have agreed to a NAP some turns ago.

Jazzepi
July 14th, 2007, 06:21 PM
Guys, I can sub for Arco. I can't promise I won't mess it up again, though. I managed to throw away the strong position I had in Midway with the giant nation I subbed for.

Jazzepi

Velusion
July 14th, 2007, 06:46 PM
I'll send you the pass Jazzepi http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Jazzepi
July 15th, 2007, 05:10 AM
I'm trying to get a handle on the diplomatic situation. Can someone tell me who I am at war with? Apparently there's a 3 turn NAP with whomever Velusion is playing.

Honesty is appreciated, as I have no previous player to ask, and this game looks extremely complicated. I started picking at the turn a couple minutes ago. If you need to, feel free to message me on the forums if you don't wish to reveal sensitive political/war related information in public.

Jazzepi

Velusion
July 15th, 2007, 11:03 AM
Pythium = me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Velusion
July 21st, 2007, 04:10 PM
Just want to post a note celebrating the fact that this game has hit 100 turns with at least 6 very active players and STILL no obvious leader!

It is the strangest Dom3 game I've ever played in and I've learned a lot so far!

Now back to the game...

Velusion
July 21st, 2007, 06:11 PM
ok... I'm really puzzled by the globals cast this turn. Anyone have any idea what happened? This a bug?

Jazzepi
July 21st, 2007, 06:20 PM
One of the globals didn't even come with a message. Perhaps that's the message for dispel? Because we're somehow down to 3 globals. Weren't there 5 up last turn?

Jazzepi

Velusion
July 21st, 2007, 06:35 PM
Yes - but I cast a successful global and (apparently) so did Marignon - neither of them show though...

Kristoffer O
July 21st, 2007, 07:00 PM
> One of the globals didn't even come with a message.

A few of them are missing flavor texts. Those were written by my brother once, and he hasn't quite finishing them. I guess I should do it some time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

> It is the strangest Dom3 game I've ever played in and I've learned a lot so far!

Interesting. Will there be some kind of report afterwards?

Jazzepi
July 21st, 2007, 07:52 PM
Kristoffer O said:
> One of the globals didn't even come with a message.

A few of them are missing flavor texts. Those were written by my brother once, and he hasn't quite finishing them. I guess I should do it some time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

> It is the strangest Dom3 game I've ever played in and I've learned a lot so far!

Interesting. Will there be some kind of report afterwards?



Yes.

Jazzepi subbed for Arco, and then Arco promptly fell.

Jazzepi

Velusion
August 2nd, 2007, 01:02 AM
I've put a slight delay on this game for my own turn. Should have it done by tomorrow!

Jazzepi
August 2nd, 2007, 01:24 AM
Omgeeze. Can we say conflict of interests?

Jazzepi

Velusion
August 2nd, 2007, 01:26 AM
lol... well considering I'd give anyone who asked for an extension one in this game (and have in the past) I don't think I'm conflicting too much interest. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Jazzepi
August 2nd, 2007, 01:28 AM
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

Jazz

Velusion
August 5th, 2007, 08:25 PM
I, along with Marignon are tendering our surrender to the powers that be (Marignon can confirm with a separate post). We have been discussing our lack of enthusiasm and our diminishing chances of winning between ourselves since AC went up and AN got overwritten.

We could keep going attempting to get AN back but my heart isn't in it - and our shot isn't that great.

Congrats to Caleum, Oceania and Pangaea and good luck to Arco!

Most fun:
#1 Sending all of my armies out to the oceans once UD showed up to die. Just cause.
#2 Mind Controlling the Lich that cast Utterdark from Caelum, giving him gift of reason and using him to summon lots of Tartians (I had horrible magic diversity).

Learned a WHOLE lot from the late game here. Very edjumcating and humbling.

Now don't be pussies... Fight it out amongst yourselves! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Kojusoki
August 5th, 2007, 09:12 PM
lol http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif)))))
Marignon switched to AI - congratulations!!!!!
Yes, it was a good lesson of good gaming.
First time playing so long... Bloody nations are the best in long lasting games I belive. They need a lot of managment but it is worth....

So - are you fighting each other now?:)

Blofeld
August 6th, 2007, 10:55 PM
This is the ruler of Oceania, speaking on behalf of Caelum-Oceania-Pangea alliance. We accept the surrender of Pyhtium and Marignon and call upon Arcoscephale to follow with their surrender. Substantial their army may be, they won't stand against concerted attack of three powers.
The three of us don't wish to duke it out till the bitter end as that seems extremely tedious.
I think games that large need a more achievable victory condition set.
We're waiting for Arco's answer, for now a lot of thanks to Velusion for hosting and all players for good play!

Jazzepi
August 6th, 2007, 11:04 PM
We gave up.

Have fun!

Jazzepi

Velusion
August 6th, 2007, 11:50 PM
Blofeld said:
The three of us don't wish to duke it out till the bitter end as that seems extremely tedious.
I think games that large need a more achievable victory condition set.



As far as I am concerned there can be only one victor. Alliance victories were never part of the victory conditions, and if they were I'm sure many of would have been playing differently from the start.

I will also say that there are many other large games out there that manage to have a clear cut victor... for example:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=d3maars&Number=509540&fpar t=&PHPSESSID=

Do as you like though... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I'll just consider this game unfinished with no winner if it ends here.

WraithLord
August 7th, 2007, 03:07 AM
The lack of VP makes having a clear victor in this game a tedious time consuming nightmare. I think I'd rather leave it as a tie between Oceania, Caelum and Pangaea and save a ton of time in the process.

Blofeld
August 7th, 2007, 09:08 AM
It wasn't our intention to rig the rules in any way. Our alliance came into existence due to geographical reasons and common enemies (starting with Ermor). Other nations formed alliances throughout the game as well, e.g. Tien Chi and Arco or various pacts involving them, Pythium and Marignon to which we're not fully privy.
Having defeated the opposing powers we would have to duke it out between ourselves through a long, tedious grind. We chose not to do so.
If you need a single winner for the record, I think Caelum qualifies due to a number of powerful globals.

Blofeld
August 7th, 2007, 09:21 AM
More on the game - it was a wild ride from the beginning to the end, with almost constant fighting.
I fought, in chronological order, against Ctis, Ermor, Atlantis, Marignon, Rlyeh, Tien Chi, Arcoscephale, Pythium and Machaka, with most opponents giving a really good fight.
I had to start astral, death and fire from the scratch through empowerment. Seas were relatively easy to conquer, land was difficult due to lack of good troops. Ichtycentaur knights got me only so far, I based my later strategy on SCs - queens of water and air (to my astonishment I initially got all 3 of the latter - what did you do with your air income, Velusion?) and Tartarians later.
Scarcity of astral hampered me somewhat in late game - astral nations shine then, but this is widely known.
Regarding globals, Utterdark and Arcane Nexus seem rather unbalanced, I think our esteemed host was right to nerf them in his later games. Astral Corruption is a double-edged sword and I lost many a caster to it.
I've never had more than thirty clams.

Blofeld
August 7th, 2007, 09:33 AM
Some memorable moments:

Storming R'lyeh capital with hundred of combatants on either side. Dozens of shark ripping through illithids - yay!
Heavy battles with Tien Chi under remote spells barrage - his sacred 9S9W armies were _nasty_, cost me air queen among others.
Losing the second air queen with Mage Bane in a ruse to kill Marignon angels - she had MR 25 and fell to third enslave mind in the battle:/

Shmonk
August 7th, 2007, 11:35 PM
Wow, it's over! I finally went AI towards the end (me being Machaka). This was one of the first few Dom 3 MP games I was in where I was still in it beyond midgame, and it was enjoyable. I was more of a minor power, duking it out with Mictlan early on. Then Abysia tried to join in, but Arco helped me out and we had an alliance from then on.

I do remember at first I was in the water taking a lot of the water provinces in that lake in the middle, but I knew that wouldn't last, and of course someone (Rlyeh or Atlantis) came around from the NE and took all those provinces from me. After that it was downhill, I was just a minor thorn in the side for the major powers.

This was definitely a fun game to be in!!