How to selfdestruct mines?

[Q]

I can't find out how you can selfdestruct mines.
The corresponding button is not highlighted and can't be selected if you have selected a mine group.

[Captain Kwok]

The best option is to entice your enemies to bring their ships into your minefield. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Q]

Not a good idea, if these obsolete mines are in my core system http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

But my question was serious: how can you make mines destruct themselves?

[Captain Kwok]

My answer was serious as well. I think the auto self-destruct on them is broken.

[GuyOfDoom]

Unless it was a feature added in v1.33, which I didn't notice you still can't.

[Raapys]

Probably another oversight.

Aren't mines a rather cowardly weapon, though?

[Q]

Is MM aware of the broken self destruction for mines?

[GuyOfDoom]

Raapys said:
Aren't mines a rather cowardly weapon, though?



Cowardly? Says you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Raapys]

So say we all!

[se5a]

Q - can you confirm that a ship with the self destruct component will self destruct?

[GuyOfDoom]

I've found mines are a good supplementary defense and often can delay opponents by forcing them to research minesweepers.

[Fyron]

Raapys said:
Aren't mines a rather cowardly weapon, though?

Far less so than slaughtering millions of women and children on small civilian colonies at every chance you get. The mines at least offer them some protection.

[Q]

se5a said:
Q - can you confirm that a ship with the self destruct component will self destruct?



No I can't. I didn't test it.

[Q]

I reported the missing selfdestruction for mines to MM.

And I tested the self destruct component in a ship and I worked perfectly.

[Raapys]

Far less so than slaughtering millions of women and children on small civilian colonies at every chance you get



Just like the butchering of defenceless beings that you mention, mines too are risk-free for the user, as with most new weapon technologies, and thus no better. What I don't appreciate is someone harming others when they have no chance of being harmed in return. It is the trait of cowardice.

[GuyOfDoom]

Raapys said:

Far less so than slaughtering millions of women and children on small civilian colonies at every chance you get



Just like the butchering of defenceless beings that you mention, mines too are risk-free for the user, as with most new weapon technologies, and thus no better. What I don't appreciate is someone harming others when they have no chance of being harmed in return. It is the trait of cowardice.



I take it we're moving from mines in SEV to land mines in real life?

[Raapys]

Well, I was really just half-seriously continuing my point about it being a coward's weapon, as are most new weapons being made( i.e. missiles and the likes ).

No longer does it matter who has the bravest warriors, instead all that matters is who has the biggest brains in their midsts. I don't like the way weapons are evolving; more machine, less human. At least a few hundred years ago we had to send actual people to do the dirty work, while now we just drop a few bombs, or sit in a comfortable chair thousands of miles away, pushing a red button.

The dead are but numbers on a report that is received afterwards.

[GuyOfDoom]

While I will agree that violence and war are becoming too distant in modern society I think that's for another thread.

As for mines in SEV I really have no problem with them. In fact I love using them. That doesn't mean I don't go for your throat it just means mine is harder to get to.

[Raapys]

I've never actually bothered with them. Are they actually worth choosing over, say, a similar kT of satellites?

[GuyOfDoom]

I couldn't say. I rarely use satellites save for stationary "scouting"

Mines are nice because they're quick to build and you don't have to worry about making sure their weapons have ammo.

[Raapys]

Ooh, I always use satellites. Placing a few dozen of them, equipped with APBs, in a circular formation around a warp-point brings forth a rather neat light-show when the enemy comes through.

Guess I'll have to try out mines to see if it brings an even better result. I don't like the thought of having to continously deploy new ones, though.

[GuyOfDoom]

Raapys said:
Guess I'll have to try out mines to see if it brings an even better result. I don't like the thought of having to continously deploy new ones, though.



Yeah it's a bit annoying, but they do straight structure damage so you don't need as many as you might think.

I've been gearing up to try out sattelites in my PBW game. I think I'll go for it.

[Baron Munchausen]

Well, at last resort move a space yard ship to the mine field sector and then you can scrap them.

[jfp3]

Cowardice or intelligence?

[Raapys]

Both.