New with SEV....Q: Sensors

[jfp3]

...and to long since I played SEIV.

Q: Are the effects of several "Basic Sensors" on a scout ship cummulative?

1st of many questions this weekend I'm sure. Thanks for any help.

[jfp3]

In addition, I don't see how to find out what # of structures I can build on each planet. For instance, I see the icons for the structures on my homeworld, but don't know if I have any additional slots or if it's maxxed out.

[jfp3]

Do Cargo Components allow a Colonizer to carry more colonists?

[Suicide Junkie]

Firstly, you can edit, rather than triple-post.

Only the best sensor is used. Range 3 + range 3 does not mean range 6, or everybody would see the the entire system all the time.

Facility space should be listed top left of the queue window.
It is in kt now, but generally it is the same as SE4, just with all the numbers x1000. Good for mods tho.

And yes, civilians can be stuffed into cargo by the millions.

[jfp3]

Thanks SJ and sorry about the multiples.

Q: Is the "auto-survey" efficient in SEV or should I pretty much manually move my starter scouts around?

[se5a]

auto servey just aims for the biggest amount of un serveyed space.

[Raapys]

Auto-survey used to eventually move the ships that had the order into the sun(s) in the system, stopping the ships, then you had to manually move them away. At least that's how it was a few patches ago. Haven't used the order in a while, so don't know if it still is thus or if it's been fixed.

[Arkcon]

jfp3 said:
Thanks SJ and sorry about the multiples.

Q: Is the "auto-survey" efficient in SEV or should I pretty much manually move my starter scouts around?

It really depends. With 3 or 4 levels of sensors, it will do a pretty good job in one pass, and it's a nice level of automation. But, getting every last hex on the edges, when you've already found all warp points, and searching every hex around the stars for planets and warp points, is a little wasteful, especially with low sensor level. Unless you have warp points everywhere on (I like surprises), and are using Fyron's latest quadrant mod ...

Long story short, the new "invisible planets and warp points on entry" mode of SE5 will make you want to rapidly get a few levels of sensors, resupply storage, engines, and hull sizes to hold them all early on. 'Tho you'll want some defenses and weapons too, least you end up eaten up by an aggressive race. Heh. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

God, SEV is a lot of fun.

Raapys said:
Auto-survey used to eventually move the ships that had the order into the sun(s) in the system, stopping the ships, then you had to manually move them away.

I only saw that rarely, and it's been fixed. 'Tho I do see ships plot a course straight to the star, then have to drive around up. Hey, maybe the sunspots were real interesting to the captain, or something. B}

[Ed Kolis]

Suicide Junkie said:
And yes, civilians can be stuffed into cargo by the millions.



They can, yes, but I would not recommend it - there are more useful things for putting on your colony ships, such as supply storage or even weapons. Keep in mind that population in SE5, unlike in SE4, can migrate on its own, so unless you have cultural, social, or racial traits that reduce migration (the more authoritarian governments tend to have less migration than the more liberal ones), your populations will spread out automatically without need of ships ferrying them around. Much safer that way too - ships can be intercepted http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Raapys]

I've to admit, I find population to be a nearly useless consideration in SE V( with BM ). While they do increase production a bit on the planets, I can keep up with what my maintenance budget can handle anyway, without the need of transporting people around( and there's always migration ). And after some amount of turns I'm mostly just using construction ships anyway, which renders population even more useless.

Then again, I don't play PBW, so perhaps a more aggresive approach is needed when playing against non-harmless opponents.

Anyone got some good arguements for actually transporting population( beyond the ones following the transport ship, obviously )?

[aegisx]

I thought the population would only migrate if it was to a place with a breathable atmosphere. So they will not migrate to domes... I could be wrong though.

[Baron Munchausen]

Yes, MM claims to have fixed migration so that they will only move to breathable atmosphere planets. There is still the possibility of bugs of course. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Siirenias]

They DO migrate to domes, and it is incredibly frustrating. It's the only reason I have any population transports at all, because people migrate to a conquered world the moment it is conquered, and I have to shuttle off all the additional non-breathers off the planet, in addition to the population that originally made it a domed city.

[PvK]

LOL...

[BlueTemplar]

the more authoritarian governments tend to have less migration than the more liberal ones


Are you certain about that? Is it linked to population loyalty or foreign popoulation assimilation?

So, they will migrate to a non-breathable colony if it's already domed?

[Arkcon]

I noticed something weird in my latest game. Captured population are migrating to domed breathables (for them.) Yet, when the atmosphere modification plant actually completes its task, the alien population is gone -- just vanished.

[Ed Kolis]

BlueTemplar said:

the more authoritarian governments tend to have less migration than the more liberal ones


Are you certain about that? Is it linked to population loyalty or foreign popoulation assimilation?



Look on the list of abilities for the governments - there should be one that says "population migration increased or decreased by +-X%"... I don't think it has anything to do with loyalty or assimilation... are those even implemented?

[PvK]

Arkcon said:
I noticed something weird in my latest game. Captured population are migrating to domed breathables (for them.) Yet, when the atmosphere modification plant actually completes its task, the alien population is gone -- just vanished.

LOL! Well, they were just troublesome anyway, weren't they? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Suicide Junkie]

Perhaps the domed colonies simply have 0% migration as a base, and then +2% for society?

[BlueTemplar]

Ed Kolis said:

BlueTemplar said:

the more authoritarian governments tend to have less migration than the more liberal ones


Are you certain about that? Is it linked to population loyalty or foreign popoulation assimilation?



Look on the list of abilities for the governments - there should be one that says "population migration increased or decreased by +-X%"... I don't think it has anything to do with loyalty or assimilation... are those even implemented?



I don't see anythig like that...

[Ed Kolis]

Odd... could have sworn it was there... of course I play Balance Mod, not stock, maybe that makes a difference... :?

[Makinus]

Siirenias said:
They DO migrate to domes, and it is incredibly frustrating. It's the only reason I have any population transports at all, because people migrate to a conquered world the moment it is conquered, and I have to shuttle off all the additional non-breathers off the planet, in addition to the population that originally made it a domed city.



This is the single reason i didn´t bought the game yet... i´m waiting until MM fix this bug (don´t tell me it´s not a bug) then i´ll buy the game...

[Captain Kwok]

I haven't seen any cases of migration where the population is moving to non-breathable planets in months.

[GuyOfDoom]

I'm still amused at how upset people keep getting over MINOR issues.

I haven't witnessed any strange migration patterns.

[Spectarofdeath]

I don't even care about it lol

[arthurtuxedo]

I refuse to buy this game until 'pancreas' is added as one of the system names. Well, I already bought it, but I can always take it back, so there! Well not physically take it back because it's way out of warranty, but... you know... in spirit.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

You can do that yourself. SystemNames.txt, probably.

[Makinus]

Captain Kwok said:
I haven't seen any cases of migration where the population is moving to non-breathable planets in months.



So it´s already fixed? Cool! Next week i´ll travel to a nearby city where i saw SEV for sale (at about $100) and i´ll buy it!

[RCCCL]

Makinus said:
So it´s already fixed? Cool! Next week i´ll travel to a nearby city where i saw SEV for sale (at about $100) and i´ll buy it!



$100 at a nearby city, wow. You obviously have the internet, can't you purcahse it online and have it shipped?

Even with shipping rates it would have to be less than 100.

[Fyron]

In the US, maybe... imports can be a bear.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I would guess it's the exchange rate.

[Makinus]

The problem is that Brazil have an 50% tax in "technology importation" and this tax applies to games, unless you are a registered import/export bussiness, since shipping costs is around $ 62.00, the $100.00 would be a reasonable price for me...

I´m trying to buy the downloadable copy from StrategyFirst but their site keeps giving errors and don´t conclude my buy... anyone know othe rplace where i can buy a downloadable copy?

[FaultyAirlock]

Steam has it for like, 20 bucks.