OT: V The TV Series

[Atrocities]

I just got down watching the 84 series V, the TV series, not the mini-series. Man what a JOKE. It is shows like this that give Sci-Fi a bad name. Not just for the SFX, but everything from the acting to the horrible George Lucas style dialog. Talk about campy. I have seen some bad writing made into bad TV, but this series just takes the cake. I shudder to even recall how bad this show sucks.

[Randallw]

ok I get you mean the 84 tv series and by mini series you mean the 80s mini series, right? Did you know they have been filming a new V mini series?

[Atrocities]

ya read about it a few weeks ago.

[Atrocities]

I have always wondered where Lucas learned how to write such bad dialog. This series takes the all time award for really bad dialog.

[AgentZero]

I've never heard of this V. Is it at all related to V the movies, or is that a whole other bag of kittens?

[Randallw]

We are talking about the tv series where Alien Lizards come to earth disguised as human aliens (At least Star Trek would stick something on their nose) ostensibly for peace but really to steal our water and eat people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_%28TV_series%29

[Atrocities]

Ok I finally heard a good line.

"Someone has a distinctly warped sense of humor, or a monumental death wish." - Diana

[Arkcon]

Jane Badler had a lot of style, charm and acting ability. There were a few other good actors. But the camp just got laid on real heavily as the mini-series became a TV show, and bad acting seems to be the norm, whenever a TV show becomes a night-time soap opera. Remember when the original Battlestar Galactica series actually found Earth? Me either.

[Azselendor]

Ahhh! Evil Reptillian Nazis from Outer Space! V is a member of a select club of bad scifi that keeps popping up like Zombie Jesus.

For some reason WW2 never ended for hollywood.

[Hunpecked]

Man, this topic brings back memories. The two miniseries were definitely better than the TV series, or perhaps I should say, less bad. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif I remember liking Jane Badler and her deliciously evil character. I also recall that a human/alien hybrid child played a crucial role in the story...hmmm, now where have I seen that lately? Hmmm. Dang, it's on the tip of my tongue... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Atrocities]

I noticed in the TV series they reused and reused and reused many shots from other episodes or from the mini-series. Hell in one episode there was this blue plasma orb in the dudes offices, they made a point of showing it there many times. Then in a later episode it became a Visitor ultimate computer. I nearly laughed it was so obviously the same decoration that was in Bates office.

Then we have Mr. Bates and his Dead Man switch which ironically NEVER went off when he died. Major plot flaw there.

In one episode they had this purple like thing that was suppose to be this evil weapon, then a few episodes later it was a volcano prop in some ceremonial chamber on board the Visitor's ship.

The Visitor dialog was so bad that it had to have been written by George Lucas himself. The whole TV series reminded me COBRA and the GIJOE series. Cheesy to the extreme. Each episode of the V TV series was horribly written. It is as if the producers wanted the show to fail.

[MrToxin]

Here's the thing to remember about sci-fi: the WORST stuff is often some of the most WATCHED.

See, back in the days when I still watched TV, I knew that the Sci-Fi channel, for example, would ALWAYS have something worth watching on. See, it was either really great or so mind-bogglingly awful that it was fun to watch it for the laughs.

Remember, kids: some things are deliberately awful. Some things are unintentionally awful but, if people keep watching it, for ANY reason, somebody will keep making it.

Yes, I do love MST3K. Thank you for asking.

[Atrocities]

Lets face it, the 80's gave us some pretty awful shows to remember. From the A - Team to Dukes of Hazard we have memories of childhood shows that should never be watched as adults. You should not revisit those old episodes of Night Rider, Buck Rogers, (Except to gawk at Wilma) TJ Hooker, and so on. JUST SAY NO!

[Randallw]

In my case especially don't watch BSG, or perhaps to be specific buy the toys. I had a BSG toy that fired off rubber Vipers with Rubber bands. I replaced the Vipers with Darts and turned it into an effective, albeit short ranged, crossbow http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif. My mother took it away and I haven't seen it since.

[dogscoff]

Atrocities said:
...Buck Rogers, (Except to gawk at Wilma)...



Ah yes, Wilma (http://www.google.com/search?q="off-think"+wilma+deering)...

[MrToxin]

Atrocities said:
Lets face it, the 80's gave us some pretty awful shows to remember. From the A - Team to Dukes of Hazard we have memories of childhood shows that should never be watched as adults. You should not revisit those old episodes of Night Rider, Buck Rogers, (Except to gawk at Wilma) TJ Hooker, and so on. JUST SAY NO!



Hey, I like the A-Team. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[gregebowman]

Randallw said:
ok I get you mean the 84 tv series and by mini series you mean the 80s mini series, right? Did you know they have been filming a new V mini series?



I had to check the date on the above post to make sure it wasn't an April Fools gag. I liked the old tv mini-series, but the actual tv show was something else. And if I recall, they ended the season/series with a cliffhanger, and then canceled the show. If they are really reviving the concept, I'd like to see the guy who's re-doing Battlestar Galactica take a stab at it. It might not be half bad then.

[Caduceus]

I agree that a "re-imagining" in modern day Earth might be fun to see.

[Randallw]

Well according to the IMDB article on the bloke who played that photographer he is in the new TV movie so either it is the same people 20 years later or he is doing the same thing as Richard Hatch.

[Atrocities]

I read the the people behind the TV show, were not the same folks that created the mini-series. That the people who wrote for the TV show were trying to make the bad guys out to be over arrogant. How it came across was not as arrogance, but rather as campy stupidity. The dialog between them was intentionally made to be bad to give them the sense of weakness. In other words they did this on purpose and it was the standard of the day for bad guys. Make them sound evil but give them no real intelligence. THANK GOD the standards for writing a TV series has improved dramatically since then.

In the mini-series, the first one at least, Diana seemed to be a well written character. Then it all went down hill.

One thing that I did notice is that the science of the show was also very unscientific. You can often identify a sub B standard movie or TV series by this one single trait, the use of BS Science. You know it, where they try to sound all technical and what not but when you pause to think, comes across as bad scientific dialog. It is the hallmark of bad TV and Movies to make up science instead of doing the research and coming up with plausible well thought out scientific dialog.

Star Trek has Technobable, Stargate had Gatenobable, and a the CSI shows have BSobable. (Ya right, like you can convict a person because you found a strand of hair in the hotel room where they work next to the dead body.) They always cave and spill their guts. Now even real cops are using that made up CSI crap to trick people. And people fall for it. ROTFLMAO. Just goes to show you that smart writing will win out over dumb writing any day of the week. People actually believe what they watch on TV as the gospel truth so thank GOD the educational level of some of the dialog for some of these shows is a bit higher than the standard of complete moron.

Who would have thought that back in the late 60's some dudes just making crap up would have actually predicted the future. Communicators - Modern day cell phones, Hand held computer devices, floppy disks, music and video play back from a computer, and so on. (Note, the people behind Mpeg and MP3 got their idea from watching STNG. Go figure.)

I wonder what technology we would have today is someone tried to invent the Visitors Ultimate blue plasma sphere computer? Or those futuristic dorky looking sunglasses, or their "keep the humans fresh" freezer system?