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HoneyBadger
April 22nd, 2007, 12:44 AM
I had a mod question and I realized that there doesn't seem to be a thread for posting questions related directly to utilizing the mechanics of the modding abilities already present in the game.
Maybe there is one and I missed it, but oh well. So, this is the place for that.

If you want to do something in a mod, but aren't sure if it's possible, or don't know how to do it, post it here and hopefully the rest of us can figure out how to make it work. If it won't work, it won't work, and maybe we can figure that out before it results in the loss of one person's precious time.

PLEASE NOTE: This is NOT the thread for discussing whether or not what someone wants to do in a mod is a GOOD idea or a BAD idea. It's their copy of the game and their mod, they can do whatever silly thing pops into their silly head, and so can you. Unless it's going to crash a game, cause a fire, or increase global warming, please don't give opinions on the questions asked. There are no stupid questions!!! (Atleast, not in this thread). If you really don't like somebody's idea, feel free to ***** at them in another thread, just don't do it here.

However-that said, their *are* stupid answers-and if you disagree with an answer to a modding inquiry, you're free to argue it here, as long as the arguments follow the rules of the forum (no flamewars, etc.) and atleast make a half-hearted attempt to occasionally touch on the topic of the thread.

Enjoy!

HoneyBadger
April 22nd, 2007, 12:46 AM
First question: is it possible to create a national spell that replaces 1 unit with another unit?

Foodstamp
April 22nd, 2007, 12:52 AM
HoneyBadger said:
First question: is it possible to create a national spell that replaces 1 unit with another unit?



I have not messed with these spells, but this is probably possible by changing the outcome units in twiceborn and polymorph.

HoneyBadger
April 22nd, 2007, 01:15 AM
That's what I want to avoid though. I want to make a new, clean spell that doesn't take away from spells already present.

Juzza
April 22nd, 2007, 02:08 AM
I'm not sure, but you might be able to #copyspell

HoneyBadger
April 22nd, 2007, 02:29 AM
That might work, but wouldn't copying a spell still require replacing the unit the original spell transformed the unit into, in order to get a new one?

HoneyBadger
April 22nd, 2007, 02:32 AM
What I'm trying to do is to create a spell that gives a Niefel Jarl an ice-drake mount(a big one)-and I figure the way to do that is to make a spell that replaces a foot-jarl unit with a mounted jarl unit.

Sombre
April 22nd, 2007, 03:16 AM
Pretty sure you can't do that.

Amos
April 22nd, 2007, 04:59 AM
You will need to and from #damage and thats not possible yet. If you want the Jarl to change 1 time only use a one sided Change Shape on him.

Juzza
April 22nd, 2007, 05:19 AM
If I were you I wouldn't worry about being so specific about things, just make it a new creature no ones gonna complain because it seems a little bit un realistic where that jarl came from, well I won't!

HoneyBadger
April 22nd, 2007, 02:25 PM
I'm not sure what you mean, Juzza?

DrPraetorious
April 22nd, 2007, 02:40 PM
Well, if side effects are accessible, you could create a spell that kills one of your own units (or the caster) and then summons something.

This obviously would not be permanent, the monster would vanish at end of combat - and I don't think the new monster would show up in the same place but I could be wrong.

Presently it is impossible but that it at least possible in principle.

Sombre
April 22nd, 2007, 10:08 PM
HoneyBadger said:
I'm not sure what you mean, Juzza?



He means just make a Niefel riding an ice drake a national summon. No-one is going to question where the niefel came from and you can give it gold cost to represent upkeep.

Juzza
April 23rd, 2007, 12:06 AM
or just make it recruitable, but if its summons you want, make it a special kind of niefel that needs to be summoned, cause its a hunter of the long dead fire giants or some such and carry s one of the mythical ice blades! that requires magical gems to create, be creative.

HoneyBadger
April 23rd, 2007, 05:58 PM
That's fine, and maybe I'll do that. I just wasn't clear on what you were talking about. Thanks.

HoneyBadger
April 23rd, 2007, 06:05 PM
I kind of was thinking the same thing, but I figure it would be such a powerful spell that I'd rather it required a price in terms of gold/resources.