Astral on an Immortal Pretender

[Foodstamp]

Normally it is considered a bad idea to go low astral on a Pretender because of Magic Duel. I was curious if there were any other pitfalls to going low astral on a pretender beyond losing Magic Duels to recruitable mages?

And I just wanted to make sure...

An immortal pretender who loses such a duel would respawn in his own dominion just like if he was killed through other means, correct?

[quantum_mechani]

No other real pitfalls, and even the magic duel danger is somewhat over-hyped I believe.

And yes, a dueled immortal pops back up just like with any other death, assuming you were in dominion.

[Ironhawk]

I cant think of any pitfalls off the top of my head. Tho.. isnt there some global that effects astral mages inside the casters dominion? Cant recall

On the bonus side of things you will never be Mind Hunted http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[quantum_mechani]

Ironhawk said:
Tho.. isnt there some global that effects astral mages inside the casters dominion?

No one ever casts that, and the danger is technically a mind duel anyway. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Foodstamp]

Not being Mind Hunted sounds like a great trade off to me.

[MaxWilson]

Strands of Arcane Power (Evoc-9) initiates Mind Duels with all enemy astral mages in friendly dominion, and Mind Burns all non-astral mages.

-Max

[Jazzepi]

That's kind of cool.

Jazzepi

[Ironhawk]

quantum_mechani said:
No other real pitfalls, and even the magic duel danger is somewhat over-hyped I believe.



Not so, Q! I just had a 6S mage lose a magic duel to a 1S mage. It was a tragedy!! My people wept.

[Velusion]

Ironhawk said:

quantum_mechani said:
No other real pitfalls, and even the magic duel danger is somewhat over-hyped I believe.



Not so, Q! I just had a 6S mage lose a magic duel to a 1S mage. It was a tragedy!! My people wept.



Was it a one-off lucky shot or did he throw lots of em at you?

[Micah]

You shouldn't have been able to lose, just tie, unless this is yet another change from what's documented. Or were you just considering the mutual deaths of your opponent's crappy mage and your good one a loss?

[Evilhomer]

did you have astral 6 base or equiped with items ? Since magic duel counts your base skill as i recall (not your buffs/eqipment).

[Ironhawk]

I was the one firing the duel and it was a tie with both mages dying. When you are the one in control of the strong astral mage, a tie is definitely a loss http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Are you sure about that, homer? I thought that items boosted you but I wasnt sure about buffs.

[Evilhomer]

I have not been doing any testing with it no, but i have heard it from several people. If someone wants to test it i would be intrested to know the results http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

[RonD]

I seem to recall a thread from the dom2 forum reaching the definitive conclusion (in the form of word from On High) that only the base astral level counts for magic duel.

That might have changed for dom3, but I rather doubt it.