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Xietor
May 14th, 2007, 11:41 AM
Does arrow fend affect any spells? Or just missile weapons like arrows, javelins, throwing axes.
I am pretty sure it does not affect spells like Bladewind.
But I have been wrong before and just want a confirmation.
llamabeast
May 14th, 2007, 12:01 PM
Sounds like a question for the main forum to me Xietor. I don't actually know the answer though, in fact oddly I was wondering the same thing yesterday. Like you I'd guess it doesn't help though.
Blade wind won't hurt Pythium's troops though, just in case that happens to be relevant. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
Cor
May 14th, 2007, 12:31 PM
I am pretty sure it does stop some spells, i have no idea why it effects Flying shards and not Fireball, but i think that is the case.
Shovah32
May 14th, 2007, 01:32 PM
Probably because flying shards are more physical like the missiles fired from bows/slings ect.
Xietor
May 14th, 2007, 01:34 PM
yeah,
I meant this for the main forum. Spend too much time here now! It is becoming my "main" forum. Please move it on over Edi, sorry for the bother.
Xietor
May 14th, 2007, 01:35 PM
I disagree. it would help a good bit against pythium.
Bladewind would destroy those flaming arrow indies, while breath of the dragon took care of the slow moving emerald guards.
DrPraetorious
May 14th, 2007, 02:29 PM
On the modding subject:
UIAM,
if a spell has #spec bit 2097152 (that's 0x200000) set, it is physical. The following spells are physical:
extra limp; extra cripple; extra entangle; Flying Shards; Blade Wind; Earthquake; Rain of Stones; Bone Melter; Bone Grinding; Maggots;
I know that arrow fend does *not* stop Rain of Stones (much to my chagrin when I tried what I thought would be a really killer app), so I suppose that to be blocked by arrow fend a spell would need to be both physical and aoe 0? That's just a guess.
Shovah32
May 14th, 2007, 03:24 PM
I think you have it there Praetorious - It makes sense and it seems to match what ive seen/remember.
lch
May 14th, 2007, 05:04 PM
Mundane damage spells like those that DrP listed are affected. They have a special tag/attribute in the manual if they do mundane damage, too. Rain of stones of course is not affected, not because it has an AoE (it doesn't) but because it affects the whole battlefield and does not target IMHO.
llamabeast
May 14th, 2007, 05:09 PM
So you reckon bone melter is affected by arrow fend? That seems really odd.
DrPraetorious
May 14th, 2007, 05:14 PM
"the entire battlefield" is an area of effect (666, specifically.) In game terms it's an area of effect that covers the entire board.
I don't know if bone melter is arrow-fended, it'd be easy enough to test I think.
Sombre
May 14th, 2007, 11:07 PM
Random note: I've never seen breath of the dragon do anything, ever.
thejeff
May 15th, 2007, 09:53 AM
Breath of the dragon actually worked pretty nicely breaking glamor on my Vanheres.
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