Sophistry - (Finished) Winner DrPraetorious!

[FAJ]

Sensori, are you insane? I am already making arrangments for the final seige on my capital. I havent won an offensive strike against you in several turns, and you are killing my forces in the south faster than I can recruit.

I am having to sell off my gem reserves just to make ends meet! If I lost to you (a solid lose) when I had 60 sacreds, what makes you think im going to beat your invasion army now, with 30? Now you even have falling fires, and you are the one who is worried?

Has the world gone mad?!

[DrPraetorious]

Having liberated our ancestral lands from idolators, sophists and pederasts, we invite all our friends, the peoples of the world to join us in COLD AND DEATH! HA HA HA HA!

P.S. - DOOM!

[Sensori]

I may be killing them faster than you can recruit, but you are also killing my forces faster than I can get more, and my forces suck a lot more *** than yours do in low numbers. As my troop count inevitably becomes lower, your chances become better. That's the thing - 400 Maenads is OK. 200 is meh. 100 is omg they die. Not to mention that every time I lose a Pan, I lose more than just a mage, I lose a source of troops.

I find myself unable to GET THROUGH. Time is much more against me than you - every turn you get more Helhirdings, and I get way too few Maenads to fight that.

[Saint_Dude]

Sensori said:
I still wonder how you, Saint_Dude, even thought you could've won this thing. .



March a massive invasion force (1000+ backed up by 15 or so Pan and the Gorgon) into the Helheim capital. Script the mages to cast area affect blood and nature spells to take down the glamour and slow down the helherdlings. Script the gorgon to cast summon earth power, and then rain falling fires. I don't think helheim has a direct counter (stealth is another issue). You should be able to take the helheim capital and thus end the helherdling threat.


Sensori said:
I havent won an offensive strike against you in several turns, and you are killing my forces in the south faster than I can recruit.



Doesn't sound like a lost cause to me.


Sensori said:
If I lost to you (a solid lose) when I had 60 sacreds, what makes you think im going to beat your invasion army now, with 30? Now you even have falling fires. .



I already had research falling fires before I lost contact with the game. Although only the gorgon can cast the spell, and she may have been lost by my stalling. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

[Sensori]

Saint_Dude said:
March a massive invasion force (1000+ backed up by 15 or so Pan and the Gorgon) into the Helheim capital.



Yeah, that might've worked if Pangaea happened to be the one on the offensive when stuff started happening rather than Helheim who now was prepared to attack from both ways, and it took very little effort for him to change that into major defensive line. I might be whittling his troops away, but he's doing the very same to me. This is why I sort of asked if someone else could attack Helheim, but apparently Agartha is busy running after some lone army and Mictlan is busy... Doing... Something.


Script the mages to cast area affect blood and nature spells to take down the glamour and slow down the helherdlings.



Something like that I've been doing (nature area effect crap), but the 15 blood slaves and the distinct lack of blood hunters kind of removed blood from the menu. Stales did that I bet. ;p


You should be able to take the helheim capital and thus end the helherdling threat.



Yeah, should, but as I said, stales did a lot to screw things up.


Doesn't sound like a lost cause to me.



It's the same for both sides. Only difference is that he can recruit troops, while I can't get more Pans out - and he has summons, I don't even have gems/slaves to touch them to much effect.


I already had research falling fires before I lost contact with the game. Although only the gorgon can cast the spell, and she may have been lost by my stalling. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif



Yeah, I noticed that and started using it, and that side of the battlefield has been working out... Kind of OK. But in general, the staling did a LOT to help Helheim. The distinct lack of income is a humongous problem out here in the periphery, and I'm still certain that all I can do is stall Helheim's progress, no matter what he says.

[FAJ]

Not to be a downer, but my progress ends this weekend when I go away. I just wanted to get a good battle or two in before I went. If I won, iw ould have ofered Helheim to you to sub, if I lost, then I had no worries about having to leave.

But now we are in this stare match and my guess is that I will fizzle out un-eventfully. I have too few units to be on the offensive. I need the PD. When the time comes, I suppose I will try and offense, but It will most likely be in vain. I just can't slaughter the chaff fast enough.

[Jazzepi]

You should post on the main list for a sub.

Jazzepi

[FAJ]

what main list?

[Jazzepi]

In...

Illwinter Game Design >> Dominions 3: The Awakening >> Dom 3 Multiplayer and AARs

Just make a new thread.

Jazzpei

[EarthRaver]

Baalz said:
Indeed, the Tuatha have proven worthy adversaries, and I have underestimated them again. Yet still, their candle burns too brightly I think. A scant dozen heroes now hold the capital, the walls stand abandoned and their gem stores are exhausted. Their prowess will be sung through the ages, but now the time has come to lay down the sword. I urge you, great wyrm, to not throw the last few lives of the Tuatha away in a futile gesture as the drums of inevitability beat on. I have prepared a reservation for you, near the C'tisian reserve. You have earned a well deserved rest, let the last of the Tuatha earn everlasting honor as captains in the Ermorian legion, not be consigned to the footnotes of history as yet another barbarian cult destroyed by the rising sun of the Ermorian empire.


Try Me Hehe http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif...

Scouts Report: We have seen to it that all enemy generals in our line of sight are terminated by our blazing holy rage on our hallowed ground.Please give us our next line of instructions.

EarthWyrm :Since ancient times have i roam the earth, what monstrosity have i faced. I will not handle the nation i have created to the likes of you scaled amphibians. You would not be the first enemy i have met since my birth,and certainly u will not be my last.

The Great Earth Raver ROARS:Let there rain HELL upon thy evil nation and let there be LIGHT which guide us with MIGHT!

[If you would like having a cease fire with us we would prove great allies to you and your conquest that is if u are willing.]

[But never the less we are PREPARED to face the onslaught and we will fight back with a BANG with even greater TERRORS on you.]

[200% More dramatization to add colours to this game Hehe...]

[Sensori]

FAJ said:
Has the world gone mad?!



No, you have. And the current turn amply proves it.

I did that attack just to show you how much you've been worrying about nothing, and what I've been saying is true. Now, I will be putting Pangaea to AI as I was supposed to, because I have sufficiently proved my point - no matter what you've been saying, Pangaea does not stand a chance, and every single thing I've done was just to stall the inevitable. Well, everything but the last attack, because I knew I'd lose before I even did it (originally I wasn't even going to do it because I knew it'd end in a disaster ;p), which is exactly why I did it.

Either Saint_Dude overestimated his power or the stales did Pangaea in, whichever is the truth, I don't really care. At the point I took Pangaea over, winning was no longer an option.

But I still slowed you down, nee-ner!

[FAJ]

I think Saint_dude was going to try and take my capital while I was away, busy seiging Marverni. he waited a turn too late or something, because I was on my way back up when he made his first attack, so he wasn't able to shut down my capital.

And yes, that battle was not in your favor. I need the PD, and couldn't really attack you. That why I had low hopes. Even now, after your armies in that area are gone, I go, by gut reaction, to send a followup to attack that province, only to realize that I only have 3 sacreds and about 15 chaff that didn't run away or die. Without massive PD, I wouldn't have been able to withstand any of your attacks and my offense is pitifully small.

You are welcome to take over Helhiem though. I will be away on vacation and otherwise I will probably just set it AI.

[Sensori]

Nah, I don't really wanna take over another (soon-to-be-dying from the looks of it, if the neighbors, as it seems, will start abusing the situation) nation in Sophistry. ;p

And saying that that battle wasn't in my favor is an understatement - I lost the entire backbone of the army, as I thought I would. And as I said, I only did it to prove a point, which was that I couldn't get to Helheim even if I wanted to.

And he didn't just wait a turn too long, he apparently kept most of his armies in Pangaea while starting a war with some small scout group. What he should've done instead is brought the entire army there right when you were busy running around after me, crushed all opposition and besieged Helheim. ;p Instead it seems he made his intentions clear way too early, then staled and let you destroy any chances of victory Pangaea might've had.

And I think it'd be only fitting that we both go AI in a quick succession after this thing that weakened us both to a point where we'd be easy pickings.

[Rytek]

Caelum has declared WAR upon peaceful T'ien Chi.

[Nix]

Agartha see betrayal everywhere. Fire children betray demonfolk. Betray forest peoples, too, by extension. Take lands of treacherous mistfolk then turn on demons, without provocation.

Agartha smash. Umbrals released. Freeze Smouldercone, make into sacred underground temple. May fire children be swallowed by black depths.

Lugal'eudmerambinirgal! Lugal'Socharis!

[DrPraetorious]

Well, now, if you want someone to freeze the smouldercone for you.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

[Rytek]

sorry for holding up the game. Work is so hectic right now I barely have time to sleep.

And now with Caelum attacking, my easy turns are over with. Not sure how I want to counter him. There are too many options I have to deal with as TC.

[Nix]

DrPraetorious said:
Well, now, if you want someone to freeze the smouldercone for you.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.



Ancient ones from surface that breathe ice invited to party.

[Jazzepi]

The people of Ry'leh need water gems again. If you have any you'd like to trade away for other gems, contact us ASAP.

Jazzepi

[Baalz]

It would appear it is the season for new conquests. The fish lords have decided to test the mettle of the holy empire. Our preternatural foul luck in the lands of the ever young must have given the impression of weakness. I assure you, king of the fishes, that you have miscalculated and water will not save you from the fury of the auger's holy flames. Let any who would have joint cause against Oceana speak and receive the friendship of Ermor.

[Rytek]

The beneficial Goddess of T'ien Ch'i has taken away a small part of the misery of the peoples of the world. She hopes you enjoy the increased income your happy peoples provide.

[Lingchih]

Shark Attack. Holy freaking Azathoth's balls. I think I like that spell. A lot.

It's Calamari for dinner for the next month men. Enjoy it.

[Jazzepi]

Meh ;P What a retarded spell.

2 gems for an infinite supply of high hitpoint guys? Sure.

Jazzepi

[Lingchih]

Actually, it cost 3 gems. And you risk killing the mage who casts it, since it incurs 300 fatigue, so you have to be careful with it.

[Jazzepi]

No no. x.x We had a discussion about this on the main page. You can't kill a mage that way.

Jazzepi

[Lingchih]

Can you post a link to it? I didn't realize. I thought you could kill a mage by over-fatiguing him.

[Lingchih]

Never mind. I see it.

[Jazzepi]

At this point though, I'm pretty disgusted by the spell. It shouldn't be a battlefield wide enchantment. It should be a bigger version of the smaller one that summons lots of little 10 hitpoint sharks.

Jazzepi

[Lingchih]

Well, I don't know. It seems to me that it gives the the other two water nations a chance to strike back at R'leyh's mind blasters, and so offers a balance underwater. Otherwise they have little chance against them.

I would say, just research it yourself and hit me back with it. I have no counter for it either.

[Velusion]

Shark attack is the bread and butter for underwater battles...

[Jazzepi]

Velusion said:
Shark attack is the bread and butter for underwater battles...



It's a poorly designed spell. Any spell that anyone fighting an underwater battle always has to have in an underwater battle is bad design. There's no choice, no option, you either have it or get destroyed.

Jazzepi

[Saint_Dude]

Lingchih said:
Shark Attack. Holy freaking Azathoth's balls. I think I like that spell. A lot.

It's Calamari for dinner for the next month men. Enjoy it.



Heh, heh. Thought you would like it. Screen shot?

[Lingchih]

Screenshot of a nice battle. A few sharks arrived.

[Jazzepi]

The people of Ry'leh need the +5 reinvig amulet forged. Let us know if you can make it for us this turn.

Jazzepi

[Rytek]

Ok, So a lowly Maggots spell made a fully tricked out Banelord retreat. It shouldnt have even came to that - I should have had my celestial master in the middle of the PD for the paralyze/soul slay. But dummy me put him in the back and of course the banelord just flew to the rear and ganked him first.

But woah, I'll have to remember the maggot spell. With 20 or so pd a level 1 nature mage has a chance to route a banelord thug.

[tibbs]

Runner: "Sire, I bring you a message from Vanheim."

Takeda Shingen: "They must realize the only end to this war is their destruction. I give them credit. I surely thought they would have cowed before us by now. Bring it to me immediately!"

The messenger reverently walks to the base of the throne and hands Lord Takeda an ornate envelope sealed with the imperial crest of Vanheim. Takeda carefully opens it and reads it by torchlight.





http://chrisandyoshimi.com/pics/taunt.JPG

[AreWeInsaneYet]

tibbs said:
Runner: "Sire, I bring you a message from Vanheim."

Takeda Shingen: "They must realize the only end to this war is their destruction. I give them credit. I surely thought they would have cowed before us by now. Bring it to me immediately!"

The messenger reverently walks to the base of the throne and hands Lord Takeda an ornate envelope sealed with the imperial crest of Vanheim. Takeda carefully opens it and reads it by torchlight.





http://chrisandyoshimi.com/pics/taunt.JPG




A taunt, indeed.

Considering how bad situation I was in(ganged by 4 nations) and for how long durations I spent my valuable time and troops raiding on Yomi's land, a brilliant emperor should already sitting and laughing on the throne of ex-vans.

But you are not such a wise king, you low betrayer, instead you drive those poor girls onto my capitol and let them die for nothing. Should you see the hilarious battle where three hundreds warriors killed by merely twenty bravery, you would realize what I mean for "nothing".

When the rain of arrows blocked the light of sun,
when the land shivered under the march of your army,
when the blood sheltered land of my capitol,
there they smiled,
twenty barechests saved the country.
You definitely love the Persian way to die, don't you.

I hope you realize now that one day the war might ended by someone in my destruction, but it's not now, and it won't be you.

Would you mind to escort me in the way to hell, my friend?

[Jazzepi]

I am officially entertained.

Jazzepi

[Lingchih]

Well, it appears R'lyeh has cobbled together another 600 unit army to defeat me. Honestly, I don't know where they come up with that kind of cash. We'll see this turn whether Atlantis lives or dies. You can bet that I will take many of their godforsaken troops with me, if I die this day.

[Lingchih]

And btw, it seems they have brought their sniveling pretender out from the depths of his castle, to go to war. I am honored. Now, let him and Azathoth engage in combat. We will see who is the ruler of the seas.

[EarthRaver]

AreWeInsaneYet said:

tibbs said:
Runner: "Sire, I bring you a message from Vanheim."

Takeda Shingen: "They must realize the only end to this war is their destruction. I give them credit. I surely thought they would have cowed before us by now. Bring it to me immediately!"

The messenger reverently walks to the base of the throne and hands Lord Takeda an ornate envelope sealed with the imperial crest of Vanheim. Takeda carefully opens it and reads it by torchlight.





http://chrisandyoshimi.com/pics/taunt.JPG




A taunt, indeed.

Considering how bad situation I was in(ganged by 4 nations) and for how long durations I spent my valuable time and troops raiding on Yomi's land, a brilliant emperor should already sitting and laughing on the throne of ex-vans.

But you are not such a wise king, you low betrayer, instead you drive those poor girls onto my capitol and let them die for nothing. Should you see the hilarious battle where three hundreds warriors killed by merely twenty bravery, you would realize what I mean for "nothing".

When the rain of arrows blocked the light of sun,
when the land shivered under the march of your army,
when the blood sheltered land of my capitol,
there they smiled,
twenty barechests saved the country.
You definitely love the Persian way to die, don't you.

I hope you realize now that one day the war might ended by someone in my destruction, but it's not now, and it won't be you.

Would you mind to escort me in the way to hell, my friend?



Cool u really did defeat 300 soldiers with 20 troops? Do you have a replay? can u show me? how to view a replay?

[Baalz]

I don't think it's possible to share a replay (without sharing the whole turn and password), but its not terribly hard for elite, dual blessed (just guessing) troops to defeat an arbitrary amount of chaff. Assuming F/W blessed vans (again, guessing) it's not a stretch for them to each kill 1-3 cheap units a round...and with that ratio of troops most of the vans will be able to engage while a good portion of the chaff will be in the back rows waiting for their turn. Figure some of the chaff may have been ineffective archers, and probably not too great moral (you don't have to kill anywhere near all 300). So if most of the Vans are able to average a couple kills per round, it'd only take 3-4 rounds to kill close to half the 300. Throw in maybe a thunderstrike or two and the chaff will be routing before you know it. Now, that's kinda a best case scenario, and I doubt that it was complete chaff they were up against, but with that super high defense the Vans can usually keep whacking significantly longer than 3 rounds. Even if their kill rate was one third of that against heavy infantry (less than one kill per turn apiece...and this is quickened 2 flaming attacks) they're not dropping from fatigue yet after 10 rounds, and a defense value more than 12 above the attackers attack value combined with glamour means they almost never get hit. Not a pretty site...depending on your perspective. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[tibbs]

Well, it wasn't the enemy troops that caused the problem because my dual wielding maidens don't have too much trouble hitting his glamoured units but it was the 9 or 10 mages casting bladewind on my lightly armored units that did them in.

[Sandman]

Sorry my turn is taking so long, I'll get it done by this afternoon.

[EarthRaver]

what time is this game running on? time of which country?

[Velusion]

The server is on CST (Dallas) but it's a 48 hour quickhost... (it hosts every 48 hours or when everyone's turn is in - whichever is quicker).

[Lingchih]

Arrgh. R'lyeh, you frustrate me at every turn. Azathoth had expected to die gloriously this turn, but you move your troops out. How am I expected to die in a glorious battle if you keep moving your armies away?

Ahh? Perhaps your mindless minions fear to fight the unstoppable Azathoth? If that is the case, I forgive you.

[EarthRaver]

Im putting Tir on AI.

[Velusion]

Well it looks like the time of Yomi is at an end. Niefelheim has given me notice on my NAP and with the losses I've incurred against Abysia I'm no match for him.

I'm looking to trade away the Air and Astral (130 of each) I have for Fire and Death gems 1:1.

It would appear the treacherous NAP-breaking Abysians are on the downward spiral - so I can at least feel good about helping to drive them into the ground this game. I'll probably stomp on their struggling Abysian corpse a bit more before the giants roll in just for fun.

[Lingchih]

Aww, sorry to see you go Yomi. Niefelheim's a brute, as always.

Atlantis is still fighting. Trying to take back my capitol now. Hell, with my Dominion, almost everybody in the sea worships me, even R'lyeh. I'm guessing I can continue this guerilla war indefintely, unless R'lyeh stops dicking around with my old southern provinces and actually comes up north to fight me.

-Just joking Jazzepi. Good game. I can't just bow out with this huge army and my dominion still intact though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[DrPraetorious]

.... you have air and astral for sale? How many death gems do you need? I haven't got 260 left, I'm afraid - I also still need more fire resistance items.

Your friendly neighbor,
Knife Bright Insight,
Iron Lord of the Jotuns

[Rytek]

So close, So close....

Caelum masses an army featuring 40+ casters. They all just sit back behind their mammomths and archers and spam summon air power, thunderstrike. One of their eagle kings is holding a staff of storms.

First fight I tried to evict him i attack with my army and 20 casters. I get up flaming arrows, wind guide, ive got guys spamming thunder ward everywhere. spamming terror on his mammoths backed by soul slays. 30 river demons hold the center while 150 warriors of the 5 elements hold the flanks. Thing is, I re-equipp 4 of my commanders which resets their orders to defend. They are leading the 200 composite archers and 100 heavy infantry and they are a no-show for the fight. awww damn it was sooo close but my losses are too great and my forces retreat.

I lose 20 commanders, all my river demons, half my wo5e and almost all of the chaff, 5-10 of which are celestial masters. He loses every mammoth. 1 caster. ouch. not a good exchange.

So, I have this bright idea. I equip an air queen with about 14 air gems, horror helm, rime hauberk, ring of regen, amulet of reinvigoration,charcoal shield,flame brand and I wind ride into his province. I teleport along my pretender as the tank and put her in front of the air queen.
The air queen scripts summon storm power, and the lightning storm spell (forget name) mist form,air shield, attack. My pretender buffs with ehthereal,luck,breath of winter.

Now, what normally has been happening (I tested a few times with my pretender) is that all of the air casters default to casting summoning phantom wolves because of the lightning /cold immunities. I was going to sit back and let the phantom wolves wash over me while the lightning storm did its work.

It worked like a charm accept one thing. He added in a group 20 or so of Storm warriors that can fly during a storm. they land on top of the 2 SC's. then some arrows fly which kills about 1/3 of them. they attack and actually do damage to the air queen who is at 50 fatigue after casting the lightning storm.Ahh no, magical ice weapons! After their round the 2 scs attack and knock the group down to about 7 left. Despite their losses, mounuting fatigue from the 2 frost auras and the horror helm they stay and attack 1 more round. blam, dead air queen!! After that the storm warriors were killed/routed by my pretender, but the damage was done. no more lightning storm. Of course then the plan works perfectly. the phantom wolves pile up around the pretender, the combat moves to 50 turns and she routs and dies.

Damn those Storm warriors!

Caelum, I hope you enjoy the gear they were wearing.

[Rytek]

And oh, can I bring my pretender back from the dead as a mummy because she is in the hall of fame?

[DrPraetorious]

You know, I'm not sure. Pretenders do turn into wight mages, I know that, so it probably works.

[BigDisAwesome]

Time to load up a test game!

[Lingchih]

Oh man. I think we about to see the mother of all underwater battles in Atlantis. Azathoth is pissed off! He is ripping the fins off of our Triton troopers in anticipation.

[Jazzepi]

I'll have to download fraps for next turn.

Jazzepi

[sum1lost]

Rytek said:
And oh, can I bring my pretender back from the dead as a mummy because she is in the hall of fame?



Nope. I tried that in a sp game.

[Lingchih]

Azathoth is dead, and the army of Atlantis is shattered by the forces of R'lyeh.

I'm going AI as of now. Good luck to all of you who remain.

Atlantis

[Lingchih]

Check that... going AI next turn. I have one last piece of business to finish.

[Velusion]

Well Yomi's time has come. I'm hoping to quicken the pace of my defeat by Neifelheim (who is going to creame me).

So I'll stick around enough to burn down the countryside and scorch the earth. You guys better start working on some sort of an alliance against him though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

I have a lot of artifacts I'm going to give away to those people who have been helpful to me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Sensori]

Oh, like me? ... Oh wait, I'm dead! Sorry! ;p

Had to!

[Jazzepi]

Sensori said:
Oh, like me? ... Oh wait, I'm dead! Sorry! ;p

Had to!



No, not like you at all. The distinction was between randomly distributing gems/items/gold to other people, and giving it out to allies.

Jazzepi

[Sensori]

Jazzepi said:
No, not like you at all. The distinction was between randomly distributing gems/items/gold to other people, and giving it out to allies.

Jazzepi




Velusion said:
I have a lot of artifacts I'm going to give away to those people who have been helpful to me.



Nuff said.

[DrPraetorious]

Hey, I'm a friendly giant. I only attacked Yomi because Abyssia pulled through on his diplomacy (with whom I had positive diplomatic relations way back in the yonder years.)

Anyway, look at the research graphs. Sure, I'm all big and scary and I'm giants, but if you spend all your resources attacking me, you'll miss the real threat from people with some late game punch.

That said, I'm always open to negotiations and would love to have allies http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. I'm willing to be very generous and reasonable since I really, really don't want to be ganged up on http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif.

[Baalz]

Does anyone object to me taking over as the sub for Argatha? Ermor went AI a couple turns ago...

[AreWeInsaneYet]

may i object as you are such an awesome player who combines with a superb situation equals to win?
just kidding :p

[Velusion]

A delay has been requested to let the new EA Agartha player (Baalz) get up to speed.

Someone might need to remind me to turn the clock back to 48 hours after this host http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Baalz]

I'm taking my turn now, no need for a delay. I've got zip on info other than what I can see looking at the map. I wouldn't ordinarily ask, but lacking any context if any of the people with armies on my border are planning to immediately attack me it would be sporting to give me the heads up that relations are hostile. Outside of that I'll assume neutral relations at this point, other than Abyssia who appears to be halfway down my gullet.

[DrPraetorious]

Actually, I'm going to gone over the weekend, so could we delay the hosting-after-this-one by 24 hrs? Were we on a 24 hr timer before (I thought it was 48)? I just put in a turn but may not be able to take my next turn on time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif.

Sorry for any invonvenience,
DrPraetorious

[Baalz]

Well, I seem to have blown my entire load of earth gems and am ready to offer low low forging prices to anyone I'm not at war with (which right now is everybody not AI). I can forge most things and can probably offer them cheaper than you can forge them yourself. Best prices if you can pay in earth or water gems, but I'll accept most anything so nows the time to get those off path items your own mages can't forge. Bulk discounts and financing available.

[Velusion]

I'll try and remember to tack on another 24 hours to the next one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Turn has been readjusted to 48.

[DrPraetorious]

Did I send somebody 50 death gems? Anyone want to be honest and send them back?

[Rytek]

Abyssia has staled 3 times in a row now?

[Baalz]

I'm storming their capital and last province this turn so it's a moot point anyway.

[Sandman]

Afraid I'm going to have to beg for a time extension, my Internet access has been patchy lately. It doesn't have to be long, even 6 hours would be enough.

[Velusion]

I reset the clock to 48. I can force host it to avoid waiting on Abysia if need be once everyone is ready.

[Baalz]

Hmmm, the connection problems have prevented me from taking my turn and I'm heading out for the weekend. Can we please delay hosting until Sunday afternoon?

[Rytek]

Ok, I just found my new favorite spell. I guessed right and my 20 casters just wooped up on Caelums 50 man caster army. Total tally: 2 banelord thugs and a bezerk Celestial master dead vs 38 out of 50 Caelum casters dead. It's about time I won one.

Storm warriors helped my calvary get close. But they still ran away before doing much damage. The spell that ripped him up was Astral fire. Mmm, No immunity to it.

Just wish I hadnt lost one of my lucky S3 mages with some nice penetration items to that retarded beserk spell.

[Sandman]

Afraid I'm going to have to beg for more time, again. A thousand curses on my broadband provider and their overpriced helpline.

[Velusion]

Sandman said:
Afraid I'm going to have to beg for more time, again. A thousand curses on my broadband provider and their overpriced helpline.



Looks like I didn't get to this in time. Sorry about that Sandman...

[Sandman]

Never mind, no harm done.

[Rytek]

I would like to ask for a 24 hour extension. I will be out of town and my laptop is can't go with me.

[Velusion]

I'll reset it to 48 tomorrow for you Rytek

[BigDisAwesome]

Sorry to be a pain, but is there anyway I could grab a 24 hour extension? Got some visitors in town...

[BigDisAwesome]

Sorry about the delay guys, just got my turn in.

[Jazzepi]

Oh, my, god.

My pretender is dead, and 400+ gems are down the drain.

Guess why?

I teleported my pretender onto dry land without an amulet.

Normally I'm extremely mum about things going on in the game. I hate to give away any advantage, but this is so utterly awful I had to share. I'm sure some people were curious why the forge went back down.

Jazzepi

[Velusion]

Jazzepi said:
Oh, my, god.

My pretender is dead, and 400+ gems are down the drain.

Guess why?

I teleported my pretender onto dry land without an amulet.

Normally I'm extremely mum about things going on in the game. I hate to give away any advantage, but this is so utterly awful I had to share. I'm sure some people were curious why the forge went back down.

Jazzepi



BLAH! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Baalz]

I tell you, I have yet to find something which regularly makes me feel so dumb as Dominions. If it makes you feel any better check out one of my colossal goofs which pretty much shot a decent chance I had of winning.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=551566&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

[Jazzepi]

Baalz said:
I tell you, I have yet to find something which regularly makes me feel so dumb as Dominions. If it makes you feel any better check out one of my colossal goofs which pretty much shot a decent chance I had of winning.

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=551566&page=1&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1



Well, at least I didn't kill all my mages http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Jazzepi

[Velusion]

Here is the deal:

DO NOT CONNECT TO THIS SERVER WITH THE 3.10 PATCH.

I will post here when the game is updated and you can connect with the new patch.

I will upgrade all the games on my server at once. The timer will be be taken off all the games and I will manually upgrade and host all of my games Wed (tomorrow) at about 10pm. Please do all your turns with the old patch (3.08)

Until the upgrade of the server please continue to use the old 3.08 patch.

Thanks!

[Sandman]

Any chance of increasing the time limit?

[Velusion]

Sandman said:
Any chance of increasing the time limit?



As in move to 72 hour turns or just a temp delay?

[Sandman]

72 hours, assuming majority agreement.

[Rytek]

Well, thank goodness I am at war again. The 2 turns I had of peace were so boring! Even if Oceanus is going to crush me, at least I can look forward to some battle reports again.

[BigDisAwesome]

I also would like 72 hours.

[Velusion]

I just changed the hosting time to 72 hours.

[BigDisAwesome]

Thanks for changing it Velusion. I don't suppose you could change the timer on the status page from 48 to 72 hours also?

[AlgaeNymph]

I'm the substitute for R'lyeh, is there any way I can notifications of turns e-mailed to me?

[Velusion]

Sure... PM me your email address and I will add you and remove Jazzepi.

[Sandman]

Has this game stalled?

[DrPraetorious]

Turn time is long and the server is getting restarted a lot.

[Baalz]

Abyssia needs to be set AI, they've had nothing but a sieged capital for awhile. After that, just waiting on Caelum.

[Velusion]

I put Abysia on AI for you.

[Velusion]

Do you guys need me to put anyone on AI?

[BigDisAwesome]

I don't think Caelum has done a turn in a while. But I thought he was in a decent spot. Maybe it'd be better to just find a sub.

[Baalz]

Gah, I was kinda hoping 4 earthquakes would be a little more devastating than that. Stupid lucky sword. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Did those guys who fled die retreating into enemy territory, or did they show up back in the original province?

[Sandman]

Huh, total wipe-out for Oceania. T'ien Chi's first turn master enslave grabbed 60% of my army, losing almost all my artifacts, mages, summons etc. And Dr P's giants wiped out a secondary force. He's probably the most likely winner now.

[Rytek]

Yeah, I have been watching his giants against you. Those guys are real nasty. Curse Argatha for taking the well of misery from me. It was my only real chance.I guess I will have to find another way to deal with all of your ocean kings other than spamming Ghost Riders at them.

[Rytek]

Damnit, I wanted that Aegis.
But holy $#%$# Master Enslave is really powerfull. I wasnt expecting the kind of success that I have gotten with that spell.

60 wights who have fog warriors/army of lead/will of the fates fighting in darkness = scary. I just need to fix that 1 script from aim to resist lightning.

[DrPraetorious]

I can't connect.

[Rytek]

I am having trouble connecting.

[Rytek]

only 58 minutes left and I stillcant connect

[Baalz]

Yeah, Velusion is out of town so there isn't much to be done. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[BigDisAwesome]

Still appears to be down.

[Velusion]

Sorry about that... didn't realize the game was down (I've unavailable of late.)

Back up now!

[Sandman]

I have to confess, I'm having trouble motivating myself to keep playing. Doc P has probably won anyway.

[DrPraetorious]

I'm certainly in a very strong position, but it is in my interest to prevent people from ganging up on me, so I'm willing to be generous with bribes.

Also my turns are so long and complicated that I inevitably make mistakes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[BigDisAwesome]

I can't connect to the server, or the status page.

[Rytek]

Only 3 of us are taking turns. It kind of seems a shame as we arent fighting each other, just feeding on those not in the game. How should we proceed?

[Rytek]

And oh, that was particularly ugly, I wanted to see what internal alchemy would do. Killed one of my best guys and old aged and diseased my other one. bleh. NOW I see it on the bug list.

[BigDisAwesome]

Well I'm in no position to win. I just don't have the means to stand up to Niefelheim.

I'm gonna go ahead and go AI just in case you wanna duke it out Rytek.

[DrPraetorious]

Well fought, BDA. You didn't even see my real forces, it was just a little tustle between SCs http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Who else is still playing?

[BigDisAwesome]

Yeah I know.
I could keep toughing it out for a good while, but what it boils down to is that I can't keep up with you.

1 SC per turn, a near infinite supply of gold, and a much more efficient use of gems from Forge of the Ancients.

Eh, if Tien Chi decides they want a couple more turns then I might stick it out for a few to try and help them out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

[Rytek]

I dunno, you tell me. I have -- I counted, 17 Tartarians all equipped who can cloud trapeze or teleport. About 10 more of the ones who dont have Air or Astral. I have 2 armies capable of teleporting hiding behind castles/domes waiting to attack. Both have about 10 cloud trapezing/teleporting mages in support who will cast doom/cloud warriors/ iron warriors, etc.. Each army has about 100 wights/100 river and celstial warriors and 100 or so warriors of the 5 elements. I am summoning 3 tarts a turn, gifting 2 per turn making 2 clams a turn and have had the chalice for a long time so I have a big reserve of tarts to gift. With all of that, I doubt I have any prayer of beating DRP

[DrPraetorious]

I'm making 20 clams and 7 blood stones per turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. I could make more but I can only forge 50 items per turn. I'm wishing for gems every turn, but considering how many I have I may start wishing for Seraphs or Mandahas, but not until my backlog of Niefel Jarls are equipped.

I'm outfitting communions to spam undead mastery and master enslave at huge penetration bonuses. The entire communion is made of Gygja and immune to cold and 75% fire resistant.

I've got a horde of earth mages ready to spam earth attack as soon as any army rears it's ugly head in an unprotected province. If the army isn't entirely fire immune I can follow up with enough flames from heaven to kill half the army right through almost any defenses, so troops are pretty well useless against me.

My main problem right now is organizational - turns take forever and I'm in a bunch of other games.

[DrPraetorious]

Also, the server appears to be down.

Is the game over? If so, I'm gonna go ahead and proclaim victory; but I'm happy to keep going if the server comes back up.

[Rytek]

I think you are the clear victor. i am happy to have made it to the end game in this my first multi-player game.

[BigDisAwesome]

Grats Dr.P!
It was fun getting to the endgame, but most of my neighbors AIed so it wasn't exactly hard to gobble up their land.

[Rytek]

Unfortunately I see that in alot of games and the victor is the one who gets to gobble up all of the AI's. I was at war since turn 10 of this game, first C'tiss attacked me. And when the war with C'tiss was over Caelum attacked me. I finally caused Caelum enough pain to offer me peace and negotiate to attack Oceanus (who was the biggest power next to me) then Caelum drops from the map leaving me fighting the second biggest pretender by myself. Once I finally had fended off Oceanus I was too far behind in the build up war even with taking all of Caelums lands.

But-- congrats DrP. Well played. Your giants were unstoppable. I take a morale victory having my pretender with 1724 kills and top of the hall of fame. My pretender single handedly beat back armies from all of my foes with muscle and spells.

[BigDisAwesome]

What kind of pretender did you have anyway? I never got a scout on him.

Post a SS with gear if you don't mind. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Rytek]

It was an awake dom 6 Lady of fortune with S6W4. Just like I suggest in the other forum. A very good pretender for the early-mid and late game. I had to bring her out vs Ctiss because he rushed me with alot of chariots and I went the Heavy infantry/composite bow route to expand. Luckily I had const 4 and Alt 3 researched and the pretender wiped 3 of his armies. Then Caelum attacked with 30+ eagle kings spamming thunder strike so I used my pretender to pin his army. Every time he split off and raided I pounced with my pretender-- Most of those kills are undead chaff killed on the charcoal shield and then later on ghost wolves.

[DrPraetorious]

I had an imprisoned E9N9 cyclops, domstr 7. This is my favorite bless for Niefelheim.

He was maintaining the Forge and the GoNB, obviously.

[BigDisAwesome]

I was rocking an S9W9N1 Monolith myself. I used him once or twice to teleport in and mass enslave on Agartha.

[Velusion]

Sorry - I wasn't monitoring this thread. The server was hung. Do you want me to start it up again or is DrP the declared winner?

[Velusion]

I assume that means DrP won. Congrats!

[BigDisAwesome]

Sorry Velusion I forgot about this. Yep DrP won alright.

[ano]

Hello.
Don't you want to create a new game with similar rules (maybe, another era)? I find this idea rather interesting and would definitely like to take part.