designs

[Longstreet]

Hi Guys. In two separate PBEM games a player has had ship designs disappear the turn after they were created. Has anyone had this problem?

Caius

[Ed Kolis]

Perhaps another player is creating a design with the same name on the same turn? I'm not sure what effect that would have, given that SE4/SE5 allows only one design of a particular name game-wide, but the problem you're seeing seems like like a plausible effect...

[Randallw]

In a PBW game I designed remote resource gatherers and the next turn the design had dissapeared and I wasted a turn building nothing. In my case it's not due to saving the turn partway through issuing orders as can cause problems.

[Longstreet]

Hello again. Here are some facts that maybe will ring a bell with someone. The two guys in two separate games are playing with US SEV games. Mine is Canadian. Maybe nothing. Both guys are using Vista. I have XP. One of the players had the Design Name File in use, the other did not.

Caius

[Longstreet]

I guess we are in a holding pattern for now. Problem is still on going with no solutions to a fix. Player cannot design any new ships.

Caius

[Kana]

Maybe a design minister is switched on, or the player is under some treaty which prevents designs?

[Randallw]

I couldn't build mining ships so I built shipyard ships and moved them to the asteroids to build bases and naturally the next turn my base design has dissapeared and I waste a turn building nothing. What do I have to do when I tell Aaron, just send him the gam file ot the whole thing? It's not very big at this stage, 1mb zip.

[Longstreet]

Randallw are you running game with Vista? The two guys I'm playing with who have the designs dissapear have Vista. Playing a 70+ turn with a player who has XP with no design problem.

Caius

[Randallw]

no not vista, xp.

[Longstreet]

HI guys. This is the third simultaneous PBEM game that a player has run into the disappearing design problem. Three games three different players. We thought it could be a Vista problem since the first two players were running Vista. The third player experiencing this now is not running Vista. So that can’t be it. It was suggested that it might have something to do with design names. No one now is using the Design Name List when creating their empires; everyone is making up their own design names. So don’t think that could be it. Sent games files to Aaron, but nothing concrete back yet. That was July 10th. Would very much like to hear from anyone if they have run into this and know what is causing it and a fix if they know of one. Manny thanks.

Caius

[se5a]

are you creating the design, then saving the game, then doing more orders, then ending the turn and sending it in?
sometimes this causes some design name issues (though usually a double up rather than a disappearance)

[Longstreet]

All three players have told me they have not saved the game manually. They do the complete turn and hit the End Turn button. Once this happens the first time, new designs or up grades of old designs never works. A real game stopper.

Caius