The map that will never be

[Humakty]

Because an old prophecy, I learned while questing in a far flung dungeon, told that, one day, the map that will make all others seem dull will be given to us. (This prophecy also told that on the precise day the map would arrive on this forum, the world will meet its ultimate demise, but it's only a minor side effect)

[Dedas]

Let it be, let it be... let it be, let it be...

[Sombre]

But it is the map that will never be! Why bump it? :)

Same reason the dog salivates when he hears the bell.

[HoneyBadger]

Who needs the old world when we'll have a map to the new one?

[JimMorrison]

But it is the map that will never be! Why bump it? :)

Same reason the dog salivates when he hears the bell.


You rang?

I mean, meow.

Errr.....

[Lingchih]

I think this map will eventually come to be. KO has put too much work into it to just abandon it. May be a while though.

[Mordici]

This map is worth waiting for and as Lingchih said alot of work has gone into it. Bumping is necessary though otherwise KO will forget the project exists.

[HoneyBadger]

He'll forget, and it will be lost for untold ages, but one day some intrepid gamers will brave unknown dangers to rediscover it at-last, finding lost mod Nations never thought completed, flourishing on it, and old dinosaurs like me roaming it's verdant wastes.

[Edratman]

Sorry KO, but my automatic reminder says it is the day for:

October's Semi-official Bump.

[Jarkko]

I too hope this map of Nevertobeland someday will become true anyway :) The pics of the work done look great!

[JimMorrison]

I think that if we perform a ritual sacrifice of someone in this very thread, we can summon KO back to it.

[Gregstrom]

{produces a virtual Jade Knife}
Well volunteered, Jim. :evil:

[JimMorrison]

< lays down >

I can't wait to see the look on his face! Oh, hmmmm.....

[Edratman]

If you are looking for a sacrifical volunteer, I'll volunteer my wife. And I'll supply plane fare if necessary. :D

[rdonj]

Hmm, something tells me she isn't a virgin though.

[Edratman]

Hmm, something tells me she isn't a virgin though.

There is a law in the Catholic Church, adopted about 15 centuries ago, which states that a person can be reinstated as a virgin if they abstain from sexual contact for a very long time. She passed that limit years ago. :D

[HoneyBadger]

15 centuries *is* a long time to go without sex...

So Jim, do you want it quick and brutal, or slow and painful?

[Kristoffer O]

Hi, I've been busy with school-work, some MMOing and an Exalted campaign lately. Not done much work on Illwinter stuff for over three weeks I think. Not been here for over two weeks. Starting get fed up with other stuff and missing the Illwinter stuff. Next week there will be a fall break at school so I will take some time to work on dom3 I believe. Mapmaking might be included, but my main target will proabably be Jomon.

[Sombre]

Jomon's never gonna know what hit em :[

It's Kojira!

[lch]

Hi, I've been busy with school-work, some MMOing and an Exalted campaign lately. Not done much work on Illwinter stuff for over three weeks I think.
KO, you have to work on your phrasing.

I've been conducting research for the upcoming Illwinter game during the last three weeks.
There, it's all good now. :angel

[Gandalf Parker]

LOL.
Thats great. Yes. Let him call MMO time "research".
Hmmm I wonder if in the states that would make it tax deductable as a business expense. :)
Since I dont list a business, maybe I should list it as game programmer and give that a try.

[HoneyBadger]

In that case, I should deduct the cost of Dom3 from my taxes, and list myself as an "independent writer".

[lch]

Well, of course it's very important research. You need to find out what the target demographic expects, what's considered state of the art in the genre nowadays, and so on. You make it sound like it wouldn't be the hard work that it is. But since somebody had to do this kind of research for the new game, KO selflessly sacrificed himself.

[Gandalf Parker]

No, with Dom3 the trick is to get your boss to buy it and let you play it at work.

Hey Boss, look at this.....
"Diagnostic software designed to maximumly test the limits of
memory, disc read/write access, keyboard and mouse inputs, the highest
video settings and sound quality all concurrently. If used on a regular
basis any changes in system performance would be instantly noticed
before degrading to the point of affecting other softwares."
It's called insert-name-of-favorite-game-here

Gandalf Parker

[HoneyBadger]

Gandalf is the kind of boss I want to work for.

[Rathar]

Bump!

[Hadrian_II]

bump

[lch]

That was a November and December bump. Somebody wake up Edratman. Or has he given up on this? :shock:

[Tichy]

And that latest bump...so listless...uncapitalized...unpunctuated.

It is as if the bump itself mourns.

[Rathar]

/grovelsformap

[JimMorrison]

Just let the thread die.

Like my hopes and dreams.

And my hamster.

:(

[Lingchih]

Yes, the bump mourns itself. So sad.

[Kristoffer O]

You are going for the guilt trip are you ? :)

[JimMorrison]

Nah, that wouldn't be fair.

A man should reserve the right to almost fully expose his most thrilling and ambitious map, and then leave everyone breathless for a year or two. What is life, without these simple joys? ;)

[Sombre]

I made a map once.

It was of a maze in Pool of Radiance.

[Aezeal]

well can we play dom 3 on it?

[Sombre]

In a couple of years, maybe.

[lch]

Good thing that there's a next year in a couple of hours already... ;)

[JimMorrison]

Indeed, one year closer to never! \:D/

[Lingchih]

I think KO will publish this map, long after most of us have quit Dominions. And, it will bring a lot of us back, just to play this map. At least I hope that is the case.

[Panpiper]

Maybe KO could bequeath the map unto some poor mapmaker sort in the community who could at least put it into a playable state (if not finished). Maybe it could become a communal project somehow?

[lch]

It won't get the KO seal of excellence then, though.

[Sombre]

I don't think there's been a single successful communal project anyway, has there?

[Endoperez]

I don't think there's been a single successful communal project anyway, has there?

Magic site mod.
Dominions 3000 (kind of, I think Aezeal is still doing almost everything).

[Gandalf Parker]

Getting the first non-beta meta game up and running had alot of hands in it.
And with excellent results apparently since we seem to continue having them on a regular basis.

[Sombre]

Is the magic site mod out now then? Cool :]

[Endoperez]

Is the magic site mod out now then? Cool :]

It's been out for a while, but most of the cool sites don't work yet, since #com doesn't allow recruitment of commanders. There's a placeholder version which removes the broken sites.

[Rathar]

Dropped to page 2 bump!

This isn't going to happen is it? Damn truth telling titles..

[Lingchih]

No, Rathar, I don't think we will ever see it. But what a surprise it would be if one day KO just pops up with a post saying "here it is, it's done."

Personally, I think that if the devs do re-consider making a Dom 4, then we will probably see this map in that game. Otherwise, probably never.

[JimMorrison]

But it's almost done, I'm pretty sure! :p

I hereby dub thee, the thread that will never die.

[lch]

I'm a pessimist. I already dubbed the Bug thread the thread that will never die.

[JimMorrison]

Well luckily, I believe there can be 2 Thread That Never Dies. (re- Thing That Should Not Bes) :p

[Lingchih]

March bump.

[Trumanator]

April bump

[JimMorrison]

My children weep for the future.

:(

[Lingchih]

KO has not even responded to this thread in ages. He must be busy working on the map that will never be.

[Trumanator]

KO hasn't responded to ANYTHING in ages. He must be working HARD!!

[iceboy]

Maybe he will release this map for someone else to finish one day?

[Gregstrom]

Bumped for May. Hope springs eternal...

[lch]

June bump. Next will be the two-years-bump. :D

[Lingchih]

It is truly the map that will never be.

[Gregstrom]

July bump!

I've been dribbling with enthusiasm for over a year now. All the carpets are ruined, the pets have drowned, I've lost 5 jobs, my family moved out...

[Sombre]

I think the title might be a hint :]

[llamabeast]

the pets have drowned

:D That made me laugh.

[Burnsaber]

:D That made me laugh.

BTW, llama, your in-box is full. You might want to delete some messages.

I didn't know any other way to contact to you, hence this post.

[Redeyes]

You can write a visitor message when entering a profile, I think it shows up as a notification too.

[lch]

Nobody congratulated to the two-year anniversary? Soon this map is going to be in kindergarten!

[Gregstrom]

Two years...

And the screenshots look so pretty, too.

[lch]

August bump

[whiplashomega]

Nobody congratulated to the two-year anniversary? Soon this map is going to be in kindergarten!

Maybe it will be finished around the time it starts college, but it will not die until at least 86.

[NTJedi]

I say just release the map now in its current form... then as time passes provide updates. This will allow the map to be used by a greater number of gamers because as time passes the community will slowly decrease.

[Ishamoridin]

Oh dear, it seems it's time for the end of august bump!

Come on KO, let us play on this beautiful map!

Please?

[Lingchih]

I don't think it was in an even close to finished form. Wait a year or two. KO will probably come back to it at some point.

[Sombre]

I don't really understand the bumping. Take a look at the thread title.

[LumenPlacidum]

Hope springs eternal in the human breast...

[Lingchih]

I wasn't really bumping the thread, just trying to show newer players that this map probably ain't gonna happen anytime soon.

[NTJedi]

I wasn't really bumping the thread, just trying to show newer players that this map probably ain't gonna happen anytime soon.

Agreed, it will probably arrive with Dominions_4... which will be during the year 2015 or later.

[Swan]

I wonder if good ol' nastry wrote a prediction about this map

[Sombre]

He said it would precede world war 3 but come after the outbreak of cannibalism in sheffield.

[Swan]

really? wasn't ww3 supposed to happen around 2012 and end this world?
at least we can die playing a nice map.
oh the joy!

[Jack_Trowell]

Shameless october bump ! :D

In my heart, I know that if there haven't be any update on http://ulm.illwinter.com/dom3/dom3progress.html since 19th august, and still no patch with the listed changes, it is because the map is being finished, why would it take so long else ? ;P

[HoneyBadger]

I suspect it has a bit to do with Kristoffer's classes, and whatever the Secret Project is... I can't imagine a long cold Swedish winter going by without the need for creative projects such as this one, though. If Spring should arrive without some major communication from Illwinter, then I'll worry a lot more.

[Jack_Trowell]

I suspect it has a bit to do with Kristoffer's classes, and whatever the Secret Project is... I can't imagine a long cold Swedish winter going by without the need for creative projects such as this one, though. If Spring should arrive without some major communication from Illwinter, then I'll worry a lot more.

I know, I was mainly joking to justify my bump. :angel

However, I'm still somewhat surprised that the new resolutions for net books have not been released yet, as them being listed on the progress page would seems to imply that they are already done and only need some beta testing. But as you write, real life can sometimes be hard to overcome ... :p

[Gandalf Parker]

I was thinking that the netbook screen sizes just meant that either one of the Johans or Kristoffer had gotten a netbook. That doesnt mean WE are getting it anytime soon. Or maybe the holdup is that the new map has to be reworked for netbook size.

Its tempting to send Johan one of the new linux hand-held gaming portables and see what that does. :evil:

[Gregstrom]

November bump - more out of a sense of tradition than any particular optimism.

[Gandalf Parker]

Actually Im beginning to feel expectation because of the lack of response on this thread. Purely guesswork of course but Im fantasizing that it means that the new game project has:
A) progressed beyond the basic coding to need content for alpha testing
B) interesting enough and deep enough to totally absorb free-time from both Johan (coding) and Kristoffer (graphics, content)

[Trumanator]

Or they just don't have time for us anymore. :(

Or we can blame swine flu.

[NTJedi]

Or they just don't have time for us anymore. :(



It's possible one of them hooked up with that female intern who was probably eye-candy. Hopefully the next intern is more gamer/programmer which can provide stuff for the game.

[Gregstrom]

Or at least ugly, so they'd rather spend time staring at the map... :D

[lch]

I dub thee "the thread that will never die". December '09 bump.

[Gandalf Parker]

we at least might be able to get Kristoffer to give us a new Map-Sprites collection with some of these great images.

[Luckmann]

Three. Years.
Give it to us already! :shock:

[Swan]

never is never, not 3 years

[Luckmann]

never is never, not 3 yearsYou lie! :(

[Meglobob]

Can't say Kristoffer didn't tell us, with the title and all...

[Gregstrom]

Sad but true.

[WraithLord]

Unless KO chooses a champion map maker from the community and entrusts to him the completion of the MtwNB. Upon completion should be renamed to the map that almost never was ;)

[chrispedersen]

I vote for ianuki
he's great!

[NTJedi]

I moved my vote for this thread to 1 star because showing something so great with "never" an intention to deliver is torture. It's like building an awesome dream home yet telling your friends and family they will be allowed to enter the home because it will never be finished.
If the map is ever released I will change my vote to 5 stars, but until then I vote 1 star for the torture.

[Amorphous]

That which will never be, must not be forgotten!

[Soyweiser]

It will be released when Duke Nukem Forever is released ... ow wait...

[Aethyr]

I vote for ianuki
he's great!

I second that! Speaking of map makers, I have not seen Pasha Dawg around these parts for a while. Anyone heard from him?

[Swan]

It will be released when Duke Nukem Forever is released ... ow wait...

http://www.dukenukemforever.com/


I vote for ianuki
he's great!

I second that! Speaking of map makers, I have not seen Pasha Dawg around these parts for a while. Anyone heard from him?

there are 3 things common humans should not meddle with
-oujas
-deep abyss' things
-this map

Let's be honest, we all know when this map will be released
21/12/2012