Warp Creation/Destruction Events

[Makinus]

I´m building a small mod that, basicly, creates and closes warp points every turn, i just set the random events to only 2 : The first create a Warp Point and the Second closes a Warp Point....

If i understood it correctly, the game only selects one event a turn, so, every turn there will be a warp point being closed or a warp being created...

I also excluded all warp creating/closing components, so warp point can only be created or closed by the random events...

My doubts is how the AI would react to these changes, most importantly, if a part of the AI empire (i.e. one solar system) is separated from the bigger part, would it still develop that system (and even expand from it) or would is simply wither and die?

Other doubt that i have is about the warp creation processo: it is completely random or it´s more likely that a newlyu created warp will connect systems close to each other?

Thanks

[Glyn]

I once tried to create a mod using the open and close events. I was unable to get the events to work. It may be that I was doing something wrong, so I am interested in if you can get the events working.

[capnq]

Makinus said: If i understood it correctly, the game only selects one event a turn, so, every turn there will be a warp point being closed or a warp being created...

At most one event per turn. The chance of an event on any particular turn will vary depending on the frequency picked in Game Setup.
My doubts is how the AI would react to these changes, most importantly, if a part of the AI empire (i.e. one solar system) is separated from the bigger part, would it still develop that system (and even expand from it) or would is simply wither and die?

AI development won't particularly be affected by whether an individual system is connected. Whether it expands from an isolated system will depend entirely on whether the system either has a spaceyard or a planet with an open facility slot where it can build one.

If all of its systems manage to become unconnected from the rest of the map, the AI will try to research warp openers.

I think the biggest effect on the AI is going to be pathfinding. I'm not sure what AI ships will do if there's suddenly no path to where they were previously ordered to go.

[bearclaw]

I created a mod called the WarpX mod a while back, with a very similar process. The only differance is that each turn 1, 3, 5, or 10 warp points would either open or close each turn. I was also able to create an effect that caused the lower numbers being much more common than higher numbers.

There was just one problem: the ability to create warp points in events is disabled. I've been asking for this to be activated in both SEIV and SEV for several years now (well, not for SEV for years, obviously, but since release). Perhaps if others start requesting it, it will happen, but as it stands now, the only thing that can be done with warp point abilities are:
- closing
- damaging
- cloaking

[PvK]

So you made a mod that would work if the effect worked, but it doesn't, so it doesn't actually do anything until Malfador makes the Warp Open/Close into effects that work in events?

[Suicide Junkie]

I"m pretty sure close works, since it just has a single target which already exists. Open has to have two targets, and is hairier.

[Makinus]

bearclaw said:
There was just one problem: the ability to create warp points in events is disabled.



Are you sure about this? Maybe i´m wrong, but i remember that sometimes warp points suddenly appear in game even if no one have warp opening tech...

[PvK]

Uh, ya, actually now that you mention it, I remember that happening in my games, too.

[Fyron]

I just ran a quick test; Warp Point - Closed definitely works, but Warp Point - Opened does nothing when it is chosen as the turn's event. 100% chance, just 2 events. The WPs in the galaxy slowly disappeared, but no new ones were created.

[Makinus]

So i´ll need some other way to implement my idea.....

Maybe an altered SpaceMonsters race with only one kind of Super-Stealthed monster with warp opening capacities and huge movement rates (30 or so), i´ll leave the closing of the warp points to the events files...

Any suggestions on how i create the SpaceMonster so it don´t attack the other empires, the players (and the AI) can´t attack it (stealth?), and it roams the quadrant opening warps?

thanks

[Suicide Junkie]

Put a sector-cloak ability on it.

That can't be turned off, and nobody will be able to see it.
If it flies over your homeworld, your homeworld will dissappear temporarily too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[bearclaw]

PvK said:
So you made a mod that would work if the effect worked, but it doesn't, so it doesn't actually do anything until Malfador makes the Warp Open/Close into effects that work in events?



if the Warp Open effect was working, then yes, this mod should work as predicted.

[Makinus]

Suicide Junkie said:
Put a sector-cloak ability on it.

That can't be turned off, and nobody will be able to see it.
If it flies over your homeworld, your homeworld will dissappear temporarily too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



But would it keep roaming the quadrant? Or, even don´t being able to turn off the cloak, it would keep going after player/AIs units and planets?

[Rollo]

It wouldn't try to attack the players. Warp Point openers don't do that.

However, the AI to open warp points might not quite get the result you are looking for.

Last I remember it was more like: go to adjacent system to home system, open as many WPs as you can, idle the rest of the game.

Still might be worth a try.

[PvK]

Ok, maybe I just remember random warp point closure but not opening.