Sombre's Maps (Including NI)

[Sombre]

Howdy. I have recently been looking through some old Dom2 maps and many of them are very nice and around the size I like to play on - either side of 100 or so provinces. As many people have pointed out, map editing has changed relatively little and therefore most of these maps will run as is. However many of them seem, to me at least, to need some tweaking. I'm no map guru, I only just fired up the editor for the first time today, but I think I can improve and upate a few of them. So in this thread I'll do just that, covering an updated map in each post, giving credit to the author and uploading the files needed to use it. I hope to include the original .map file, along with my updated ______ Som.map file and I'll also throw in a NI _____ Som.map file too, for those who like No Indy maps (I know I play virtually nothing else).

Do please feel free to post here and point me to solid looking Dom2 maps that could do with a bit of tweaking to nostart settings, underwater race settings, terrain types, population sizes etc. You can also request NI versions of any maps - it would be helpful if you pointed me to the map though.


Anyway, here's what I've done so far.

Cirlani v1
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6340&d=1213275762 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com//attachment.php?attachmentid=6339&d=1213274764)

Talis v1
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6342&d=1213291281 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com//attachment.php?attachmentid=6341&d=1213291239)

Clash of Titans v1
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6348&d=1213481848 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com//attachment.php?attachmentid=6347&d=1213481524)

Albatha v1
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6355&d=1213645265 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com//attachment.php?attachmentid=6354&d=1213645205)

Urgaia
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6357&d=1213662209 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com//attachment.php?attachmentid=6356&d=1213662145)

Shahrivar v1
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6387&d=1214250009 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com//attachment.php?attachmentid=6386&d=1214247273)

Yalun To v2
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6353&d=1213575827 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com//attachment.php?attachmentid=6794&d=1221350739)

[Sombre]

Contents of Zip

Cirlani.map - Cirlani
Cirlani Som.map - Cirlani (Sombre's Version 1)
NI Cirlani Som.map - NI Cirlani (Sombre's Version 1)
Cirlani.tga

Image: see below

#description "A friendly world for friendly enemies. This map was originally made for Dom I and was remade for Dom II by Andrew J. Osborn. It was updated for Dom III by Sombre, changing around possible start locations and tweaking terrain types etc. The central lands of Cirlani are particularly valuable.

85 provinces, 16 of these are under water."

Zip will be attached to this post momentarily.

[Sombre]

Just attaching a picture to go with the Cirlani post.

6340

[Sombre]

Contents of Zip

Talis.map - Talis
Talis Som.map - Talis (Sombre's Version 1)
NI Talis Som.map - NI Talis (Sombre's Version 1)
Talis.tga

Image: see below

#description "A map originally created for Dom II by Alexander Kon Berner and tweaked for Dom III by Sombre. 39 provinces suitable ONLY for 2 players. Water nations are disabled so you can safely choose random nations and you'll always get land ones. The starting locations never change. The map is good for duels and players wishing to test things out or learn the game without the complications of water or multiple nations."

Zip and image will be up momentarily.

[Sombre]

Attaching image for Talis.

6342

[Endoperez]

Are you sure water nations can be disabled? I think the Middle-Earth map is supposed to do that, but it doesn't work.

[Edi]

It's a shortlisted bug in the map commands section. #seaplayers 0 is ignored when determining nations randomly.

[Sombre]

I didn't use #seaplayers. I used the code from SixLands which sets the permissable nations as every single nation number except the underwater ones. This includes unused mod available nation numbers.

It does seem to work.

[Sombre]

Contents of Zip

cot.map - Clash of Titans - by Targa
Clash of Titans Som.map - Clash of Titans (Sombre Version 1)
NI Clash of Titans Som.map - NI Clash of Titans (Sombre Version 1)
cot.tga

Image: see below

#description "A Dom2 map by Targa updated for Dom3 by Sombre. There are only two set start positions. Underwater nations are excluded so you can select random nations. Perfect for duels.

41 provinces, 5 of which are underwater.

[Sombre]

Attaching picture for Clash of Titans.

6348

[Endoperez]

These are great. I'll have to download some of the smaller ones so that I don't have to start all my test games on Silent Seas.

[Aezeal]

hmm nice

[Sombre]

Contents of zip

yalun.dm - Yalun To
Yalun Som.dm - Yalun To (Sombre version 1)
NI Yalun Som.dm - NI Yalun To (Sombre version 1)
yalun.tga

Image: see below

#description "A Dom2 map by J High Updated for Dom3 by Sombre. Many craggy cliffs limit sea access. Ideal for 4-7 players; strongly suggested that you include water nations and those capable of easily entering the water. LA games are not advised due to Rlyeh's dominance in the water. 92 provinces, 34 of which are underwater."

This one might need a second version because I'm not 100% sure how well it would actually play. It might need some bridges between cutoff land provinces etc. It is pretty though and could be good for aquatic/amphibious themed games.

[Sombre]

Attaching image for Yalun To.

6353

[Zentar]

Wow, thank you very much . You know I love your NI Map versions. Some of these maps have a cool embossed retro look like Cirlani. For the Yalun map, perhaps a seaport connection instead of a bridge would work best - just my opinion. All of them will get plently of use. Thanks again!

[Sombre]

Contents of zip

albatha.dm - Albatha
Albatha Som.dm - Albatha (Sombre Version 1)
NI Albatha Som.dm - NI Albatha (Sombre Version 1)
albatha.tga

Image: see below

#description "A Dom2 map by Gremour updated for Dom3 by Sombre. This map contains 69 provinces 13 of which are underwater. Best for 3-5 players. I suggest avoiding random races since there is realistically only room for one water player."

[Sombre]

Attaching image for Albatha.

6355

[Aezeal]

Wow this one looks nice.. 2 bad I don't play SP on small maps and most MP's are played on bigger ones.

[Sombre]

Contents of zip

urgaia.map - Urgaia
Urgaia Som.map - Urgaia (Sombre version 1)
NI Urgaia Som.map - NI Urgaia (Sombre version 1)
urgaia.tga

Image: see below

#description "A map for Dom2 updated for Dom3 by Sombre. An ancient continent reemerged from the depths. Suitable for 2-6 players. Random races are not advised as there is realistically only room for one water nation.

Map contains 59 provinces 8 of which are underwater."

[Sombre]

Attaching image for urgaia.

6357

[PvK]

Yay! Thanks for doing this, Sombre!

[Ballbarian]

Great work Sombre!
I love seeing these old maps make a comeback.
You have definitely earned 2 penguins up.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Penguin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Penguin.gif

[Horst F. JENS]

great work ! Thank you for the maps, Sombre.

[WraithLord]

Wow, these maps bring back some old memories . Thanks for doing this Sombre.

[QXel]

Sombre, you've have done what I never found time to do.

/threads/images/Graemlins/MusicalNote.gifhttp://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/heart.gif A very big "thanks you"! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/heart.gif/threads/images/Graemlins/MusicalNote.gif

I think I wil have much less time to think about map & modding playing these maps http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Sombre]

Thanks. I should have some larger maps up in the future. I really want to upload an updated Sharivar but the size is insane - it's 50 megs or so.

[WraithLord]

Maybe you can ask IW to allow you yo upload it to their server?- Or else use a public server...

[Sombre]

I don't know of any reliable public servers that would keep a 50 meg or so zip up for any length of time.

I'll probably just span it on multiple rar or zip archives and upload it bit by bit. Or I could possibly resize the map a bit because it is pretty crazy in terms of size.

[HoneyBadger]

Post deleted by HoneyBadger

[Endoperez]

HoneyBadger said:
Beautiful maps! You're truly an artist, Sombre. Amazing that you can do such nice maps in so many different styles.



You do realize "Dom2 maps" in the original post means that these maps were done for Dominions 2, do you? Sombre is making them playable, not drawing them. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's great that someone is finally doing this! /threads/images/Graemlins/icon44.gif /threads/images/Graemlins/icon09.gif

[HoneyBadger]

Nope, didn't realize that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I was under the impression he'd drawn them for Dom 2. I should have read the first post a little (or a lot) more closely. Still, nice of you to post them, Sombre.

[Sombre]

Yeah I don't want anyone to think I'm doing the graphics for these.

All I'm doing is upating terrain types and doing other such tweaking to make them dom3 ready. The main thing is probably setting all the nostarts up.

[Sombre]

Contents of zip

Sharivar.map - Shahrivar
Sharivar Som.map - Shahrivar (Sombre version 1)
NI Sharivar Som.map - NI Shahrivar (Sombre version 1)
Shahrivar Som.tga

Image: see below

#description "A beautiful Dom2 map by Sandra resized and updated by Sombre for Dom3 usage, with considerable help from lch. Shahrivar is a persian month that ends summer and opens autumn. Its name means Tempting Territory. There are a number of pre-discovered magic sites on the map, usually indicated graphically. There is room for only one underwater nation, so going for random races might crash the game. 180 provinces 12 of which are underwater."

[Sombre]

Attaching image for Shahrivar.

6387

[WraithLord]

Sharivar, one of my favorite dom-II maps. Kewl http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Lingchih]

Wow. Sharivar for Dom 3. What a great map. Thanks Sombre.

[Morkilus]

Great work. Anyone still use the Dom3 map wiki (http://dom3maps.wikidot.com/system:newmed)?

[Sombre]

I think the dom3 map wiki is great,.. but in practice people aren't really using it that much. If people were actively reviewing the maps and uploading new ones I'd probably be more inclined to make use of it myself.

If someone wants to they can make entries for any of these maps on there though.

[Beorne]

Thanks Sombre!
Great work!

[DonCorazon]

Thanks Sombre!

[Sombre]

I'm updating Yalun To to version 2 simply because I got the mapzoom wrong the first time. I haven't changed anything else, so if it never bothered you, no need to redownload.

I'd love to just edit the original post, but for some reason I can't work out how to.



Contents of zip

yalun.dm - Yalun To
Yalun Som.dm - Yalun To (Sombre version 2)
NI Yalun Som.dm - NI Yalun To (Sombre version 2)
yalun.tga

Image:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6353&d=1213575827

#description "A Dom2 map by J High Updated for Dom3 by Sombre. Many craggy cliffs limit sea access. Ideal for 4-7 players; strongly suggested that you include water nations and those capable of easily entering the water. LA games are not advised due to Rlyeh's dominance in the water. 92 provinces, 34 of which are underwater."

[lch]

Could you update the older posts to show the preview images directly again, too?

And maybe an index for all the maps you have completed on the first post... :angel

[Sombre]

I would, but I can't edit posts that were made before the forum change, it seems.

I might make a new thread for these and add a couple more this week.

[Sombre]

Huh,... actually I can't edit the Yalun To post I made a couple of days ago either. What gives? Is there a time limit on editing? This is going to be seriously problematic for my mods threads.

[Edratman]

I'm sure someone can explain it better, but there is a long explanation on the Shrapnel page. But it boils down to this, you have about an hour to edit a post.

However, I found that I was able to edit my mod thread after a couple of days to revise the mod, so there are some exceptions.

[lch]

Oh, right. I'll edit your posts then, you put an index on the first post.

Posts can only be edited within an hour now, except for top posts.

[Sombre]

Index added.

[lch]

It is possible to use attachment URLs directly in IMG tags, so I changed the top post to directly show the preview images, too.

[Sombre]

I actually didn't intend to show them. But ok. Whatever's easiest for people.

Why did you change the thread title?

[lch]

I didn't change any thread title, at least not knowingly. Didn't touch that. Strange.

Edit: seems to be a forum bug. I needed to change the OP's title twice to fix it.

[rdonj]

I really appreciate the NI maps, they're nice to play on for games where you want to play against a specific nation, rather than a specific nation that uses mostly independent slingers and archers with some national troops and mages sprinkled in. It also is very handy for measuring mod nations against vanilla when they start doing strange, un-dominionslike things.

[Immaculate]

I just downloaded your map and its very pretty. its such a joy to experience visually while i play.