Two-level randoms?

[llamabeast]

I could have sworn that I used to know how to give two-level randoms to units. I seem to remember it was restricted so you could only give either "elements" or "sorcery" (i.e. the random gives two levels in one of nature, astral, death or blood).

However, I now have no idea whatever how to do this, and am beginning to wonder if I imagined the whole thing. Does anyone have any ideas? I want a 2-level sorcery random. At present I'm using an ordinary sorcery random plus #magicboost 1, but that is super-clumsy and will cause weirdness if the unit ever gets empowered.

[Endoperez]

Use dom2 commands. #magicskill has commands for true randoms, elemental randoms and sorcery randoms, so #magicskill 52 2 works for a linked sorcery random.

EDIT: Sorcery was 52, elemental 51.

[llamabeast]

Awesome, that worked! Thanks Endo!

[Atreidi]

Were can we find a list of Dominions 2 commands just like that one?

[chrispedersen]

Hey Endo

You might want to look at Gath. Gath has a 3? and I've done like 20 mages.. and they all came out 3 of the same path.. but different paths.

But the interesting thing, is it doesn't seem to be either sorcery or elemental.

[Endoperez]

Atreidi, that particular command is listed in your mod manual. Most people just don't look at #magicskill when they're doing randoms, because most nations have a mix of elemental and sorcery randoms in Dominions 3.


chrispedersen, Gath isn't a mod nation. MA Atlantis Kings of the Deep also have linked custom randoms, and there might be few more mages (ah, Dust Priests from Hidden in Sand) with the ability, but the mod commands can't duplicate that.

[Atreidi]

I see, I need to pay closer attention to the info on the manual. I usually use the doc folder on the game directory to look for commands. The manual can be quite intimidating at first. U need to read it a couple of times to get every thing straight. I've just read the manual once and put it away.

But hey its great to know you can do level 2+ randoms http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Sombre]

'Mod manual' means the modding.pdf in the doc folder.

[llamabeast]

Although what is better is Edit's unofficial modding manual, which I think you can find a link to in the signature of one of his posts.

[Endoperez]

Sombre said:
'Mod manual' means the modding.pdf in the doc folder.



Thanks for the correction.

Modding manual and map manual are the pdf files found in \doc. The paper manual doesn't have any details about modding, IIRC. I'm sorry if I caused any confusion.

[Atreidi]

How do you do the two level randoms that are not 50,51,52? There must be other combinations...

[llamabeast]

Nope, there are only those options. As I understand it, in Dominions2 the only randoms were elemental, sorcery or all. That's a very major improvement in Dom3 to my mind.

[Endoperez]

There's #magicskill, which allows for linked randoms via the Dom2 mechanic (50, 51 and 52), and then there's #custommagic, which allows for non-linked and less-than-100-percent randoms via the Dom3 mechanic (bytemasks for enabling paths in the random).

Johan and Kristoffer can do linked randoms via the Dom3 mechanic, but we can't duplicate it by modding.

[Atreidi]

Ive seen two-level randoms that only have two options (i think it was astral and earth). How was that done?

[Endoperez]

Atreidi said:
Ive seen two-level randoms that only have two options (i think it was astral and earth). How was that done?



Was it a mod? If so, I haven't played it, but if someone can do a linked random I'd be interested to know it was done.

If not, "Johan and Kristoffer can do linked randoms via the Dom3 mechanic, but we can't duplicate it by modding."

[Atreidi]

No, it was no mod. I'll look for it. I think its a late age nation.

[Edi]

As has been said, this cannot be duplicated via mod currently. #custommagic <mask> <chance> is always a single point of path. JK and KO do not suffer from this limitation when making new nations since they put things directly into the source code.

[Endoperez]

This might be good time to mention that Johan (Karlsson, JK, Johan K.) and Kristoffer (Osterman, KO, Kristoffer O.) are the developers of the game, i.e. Illwinter Game Design. I don't think it has been mentioned even once in this thread.

[Atreidi]

Endoperez said:
This might be good time to mention that Johan (Karlsson, JK, Johan K.) and Kristoffer (Osterman, KO, Kristoffer O.) are the developers of the game, i.e. Illwinter Game Design. I don't think it has been mentioned even once in this thread.



Thats mentioned in the manual. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif