OT - bored with gaming ? Get philosophy!

Fantasy and reality are parity states. Flipping occurs when totally bored.
According to the Keirsey Temperament Sorter II, I am now a " Rational".
According to the Personality Type Test, I am now a "Conceiver".
If you are stuck on "revenge", Space Empires IV is the "cure"! Far cheaper than psychology too...
use http://lycos.com/
Get some philosophy... http://marsh.logical.net/master.htm http://dictionary.com/
If you spend fantasy beyond your means, then your means will spend you into reality.... http://www.nd.edu/~archives/latgramm.htm
Ipse Ergo Sum.

http://www.zompist.com/kit.html#grammar http://www.zompist.com/kitlong.html http://www.zompist.com/kitgram.html#grammar
I said I would visit no more in the other thread. I did and here I am back again with the loot.
Request : Please be polite.
Response : Bizarre!
Request : No thank you, I would rather do it myself.
Response : What are you, some kind of idiot ? I only want to HELP you!
Request : Quoth the Raven - Never.
Response : More!
Okay, guilty as charged.
Why do I post here ? Well, some of you think pretty highly of yourselves, and others are experts.
The first toys I ever had were stackable alphabet blocks and a "pound a peg".
When all you have are words and intellectual hammers, everything looks like nails.
If the current hammer does not pound the peg in, get a bigger hammer.
There are so many things I could do that I simply hesitate to do anything at all.
Arnold Schwarzenneger howled a challenge in "Predator", and won.
Danny Glover in "Predator 2" simply did not know how to quit, and won.
I howl now - does anybody want to rent a loose hammer that does not know how to quit ?
If so, what do I get for bothering ?

[WendellM]

Hi again LCC,

I saw your two Posts in the "EEEvil Empire" thread including your apology for intruding and your promise to not do it again. That's good. You're certainly welcome to post in other threads as long as it has to do with their topics.

As for this OT thread, I don't have a problem with it. There are certainly other OT threads out there with nothing to do with SE4 (some of which I enjoy posting on http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif) which is fine. Actually, it would probably be best if you kept all your philosophical/song/founding fathers/etc. type Posts here in one thread. But please don't post completely unrelated material in a thread that actually does have a topic that's being discussed, OK? Thanks.


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Everyday gamer most of the time; advisor as needed

Read what I said, not what you thought I said. One Last quote and I really intend not to post any more comments. "Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a ****." - Gone With the Wind.

I certainly did not intend to return here, but now my "credit card" has been cancelled, and I stopped getting useful email. So as someone intimated a while back, yes this seems to be the only forum where I can interact. A search Lycos took me to : http://www.crosswordmaestro.com/agd84.exe
Decode Lonnie Courtney Clay only took a second.
Very funny. Ha Ha. Big Deal. Do I care ? No, absolutely not.
I define what I am, and have since childhood.
Experience overcomes initial conditions.
The Last couple weeks have been full of experience.
Is this game over now ?
Edit : I will not tell you the many things I have experienced, just a quick sanity check took a couple of minutes.... See : http://www.terramarine.com/jp.htm

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Some definitions to consider : inoculation, obfuscation, inclination, inflection, deflection, correction, projection, prediction, situation, well the list goes on and on...
Old cliches to drag in :
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Practice makes perfect.
A stitch in time saves nine.
All the net is busily revising everything ever written, inventing new things, and faking it when clueless. Check the situation yourselves. How amusing. Would anyone care to add some more old cliches to this thread ?

[dmm]

Had a strange thought Last night. You've probably heard of the "many-worlds" hypothesis? That there are many possible universes, and that they all exist simultaneously? Well, what if every fundamental particle in our universe is actually a universe, and also every universe is a fundamental particle in some other universe? It's actually a closed system, except that it is recursive in a seemingly illogical way. A "multiverse" with N universes would have N-1 fundamental particles to use. Or, put the other way, if there are N particles in our universe, then that allows for N+1 universes in the "multiverse." That's a lot of universes!

Read "Wizard War" by Hugh Cook if I recall correctly. A green bottle and a red bottle posed a puzzle for a character. The controls for the bottles were rings around their necks. It took him a couple weeks to figure out how to get past a barred grill using the bottle he found on a desk in a library.
I would not care to attempt a rigorous physical description of creation. I think of it metaphorically as linked lists of data structures. Address pointers are information exchange operators. Data values range along a continuum in reference to "physical constants". The "laws of nature" are local rules entirely dependent on the local data structure.

For more food for thought look up *isms words. Then web search with them. Someone really should create a structured English dictionary that gets rid of this reverse Polish notation.....

[Atrocities]

I love philosophy. I used to spend a lot of time at work talking to another Philosophy buff. God I miss working with him.

I would say that God is well aware of all events in creation, from personal experience. In case there is some misconception here I am not God, nor do I speak directly to God, at least so far as I know. I use another old hackneyed cliche "Where There Is A Will, There Is A Way".

[Atrocities]

Amend brother. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif I can't agree more on everything you have said. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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"We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats! They invade our space and we fall back -- they assimilate entire worlds and we fall back! Not again! The line must be drawn here -- this far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done!" -- Captain Picard STNG
New Age Ship Yards (http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/NewAgeShipyards/index.html)

One of the major reasons why I am not trusted, and should not be, is that I have difficulty making the distinction between "can" and "may, between "to" and "with", the list goes on and on. So paraphrase whatever I say if it makes you uncomfortable. Dictionaries that I access are either unreliable or crash the net link I use when I access words. Many links I access, including those which are hyperlinks result in failure to access or once again crash the net link....

Upon consideration, the problem is likely that the lists of *onyms I have conceptualized do not agree with common usage. I am fortunate in this regard because this means I am indifferent to attacks which presume I know what is occurring. For example I experienced a mild prickling while reading at one site and finally realized with a laugh that the owner thought that I thought that I was "Superman" and was attempting to attack using "green kryptonite".

[tesco samoa]

What happens when the worms come?

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I *ve a *lly *tty *ch I *ll now *ll.
*rth is *lly *ven and *ven is *lly *ll.
I am not Popeye the Sailor Man, but Popeye is on the right track when he says :
I means what I says and I says what I means.

Edit : I reiterate, beware the English I use and ignore anything you may percieve as harmful. Upon consideration, this may be a brain teaser too difficult to try. I noticed the other day that the government has a new computer called "Deep White". See what that computer can do with the rhyme.
In the early 70s as I recall there was a song "When The Deep Purple Falls". That song would also be worth examining....

Edit 2 : I looked at the net again. Song lyrics, poems, speeches, practically everything is badly quoted. What the net really needs most of all is some quality control and write protection.

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Oh well, I descend from high Opera to low Humor. Who has not yet been invited to laugh ?
I *ack patience and patience *acks me.
Rank hath its priviledges. The higher the rank, the ranker the privvy ledges.
For an English/ Scottish/ Irish engineer such as I, it is inevitable that locomotives will bump. Whose motives are more loco, those such as I, or those with one track minds ?
To misquote Star Trek :
**** it Jim, I am an engineer, not a *.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tesco samoa:
What happens when the worms come?
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Wh* worms ? I hope the humor I gave has defused any hard feelings. I recall various worm stories, but have never ever done a worm/virus etc. on a computer so far as I know. The oldest worm story I recall follows :

Ooey Gooey World Worm, He Did Not Know.
He Sat Up On A Railroad Track, Ooey Gooey Worm!

I still have a problem with memory to prevent recall of many things. Now that I have had time to think, worm is write once, read many. This is an excellent method of write protect. It is better to have a slightly defective original than to have an amorphous blob.....

Okay, I considered "worms" and found many variations. The one I like best is :
Women! Override Ridiculous Menace's Smugness!
As in "Dennis the Menace". The override I agree to is a wedding ring to go along with the "Diligence Integrity Citizenship" ring I just put back on. Years ago I took the ring off. Who says sympathetic magic does not work ?
See Suzette Haydin Elgin "Yonder Comes The Other End Of Time".
Balancing the possibilities of fantasy and reality is a tricky task.
I am willing to call the bumpkin IEEE versus ivory tower ACM contest a draw.....
Any, Every, More, and All criticisms are welcome, SARGE.
I do not of course promise to obey, just to listen.
Edit : modified text

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tesco samoa:
What happens when the worms come?
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Okay, I suppose that I am really slow. If you mean what I think you mean, then I simply exert willpower to validate what I am and take whatever comes. Usually after the situation returns to normal I find that I have new insights if nothing else. I do not intentionally attack, but lack the viewpoint necessary to be passive. If doing so is any help, then I apologize for the blundering I have done.

The fundamental complaint I have is simply this. In the Bible it is promised that the meek will inherit the Earth and the remainder of Mankind will inherit the heavens or if judged unfit will be externally punished. The eternal punishment part sounds like the product of a sick mind, but I will set aside that complaint. What I see is mankind stuck on the threshold, stagnating. Anyone who dares to stand up on his two hind feet and declare independence is punished or struck dead. The goal of a good teacher is a student who exceeds the teacher's abilities. So who is running this circus, and why does this show not go on the road / get on the way ?

I just had a most amusing thought. Am I the Voracious Witty Boisterous Electrical Engineer Tiny Lying Extremist "VW Beetle" which you are offering to "Free" ? If so, where would I go ? Earth could be much better of course and is familiar territory. Just yet another wild *** guess for your entertainment. Should I create more limee ricks instead ?

Ho Hum. Monologues are so boring compared to conversations. I welcome and invite participation on all these and the previous topics by anyone and everyone anywhere at all, so long as you understand or at least think you understand what I have been saying.
The little limerick I gave seems to be insufficient. After I crack the English language code, I propose cracking the DNA code. Notice that DNA is
DE [O x Y] RIB ON U CLE A IC AC ID which is a 10 U 10 limerick.
RNA is RIB ON U CLE A IC AC ID.
I also used dictionary.com to read definitions for "grammar", another word, then a third word with a wild card *.
The wild card * word caused the power to fail as soon as I hit enter. I was not especially surprised.
The system is correct to defend itself.
I recall a movie where a bull got loose in a china shop. Miraculously, the bull did no damage.
The manager was so delighted that he exclaimed. At that point everything crashed down.
I do not want such events to occurr.
Beware the mythos selection process. I noticed cues in the other threads. Here is what came to mind.
Song "They paved Paradise and they put up a parking lot".
Song "One/Won Tin/Ten Soldier Rides A Way" from the movie Billy Jack.
Judgement Day is a two way street. I suggest following the description by Heinlein in "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" for courts and judges.
The Space Empires IV map is a metaphore/ simile / allegory for the net. The net is a shadow of Creation.
The warp point links are low lag/ low loss hubs in a star topology.
The distances between warp points in a system model the transmission line loss/ lag between hubs.
I began to write a general purpose router for Aaron, then realized what I was doing a couple weeks ago and stopped.
Is it really desirable to improve communication rates when most of the data is garbage ?
Another amusing note - the computer I use now attempts to change the words I type.
I go back over the text and find corrections and "improvements".
As I said before, apply a means test to figure out what I mean, because most of the time I do not know what I am saying anyway....

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tesco samoa:
What happens when the worms come?
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I was finally able to do a dictionary.com search on "*worms" without the link crashing. Humongous Belly Laugh! I overlooked the Martin Luther connection completely. This is the United States of America folks, with seperation of church and state. There is freedom of religions and from them too if so desired. Nobody has given any guesses, so I will give one of many interpretations of the ditty.

I Have A Little Ditty Which I Will Now Tell.
Earth Is Really Heaven And Heaven Is Really Hell.
I *ve a *lly *tty *ch I *ll now *ll.
*rth is *lly *ven and *ven is *lly *ll.

Think about the description of Heaven. Either you are compelled to do nothing but sing praises forever, or if you are God then all you ever get is an incessant din of Halleluyahs and Hosannas.....

Edit : OOps, Freudian slip. Silly Ditty not Little Ditty. Though I must admit that the cure for a "little bit of Heaven" could be a "little bit of Everything".

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[dogscoff]

(Excuse typos. Be creative with my (lack of) letters)

I've beeen following your thread since it started and it never made sense to me. HOwever, I am now approc 71% drunk and I can suddenly understand your text. LCC, are you drunk too? I feel compelled to reply.

"What the net really needs is quality control and write protection".
NO! The net should be free znd uncensored. The surfer knows the deal and takes his choice. Caveat emptor. Other media have limitations, let the net be the one without.

"I descend from high opera" I hope this doesn't mean you're using IE. Opera is far more compact and security conscious. Oh dear net.politics twice in one post, completely by accident. Forgive me.

"Ooey Gooey worm"
Fuzzy Wuzzy wuz a bear
but Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair
So Fuzzy Wuzzy wuzn't fuzzy wuz 'e?
Derive what meaning you will. If you find any more than "not much" then you've missed the point (becasue there isn't one)

I note the conection between references to "IEEE" and "Electrical Engineer". Not many other people will. You need to bear that kind of thing in mind.

"So long as you understand or at least think you understand what I am saying" I vey much doubt that I understand what you are saying, but I recognise the disproportionate logic in your monologue. I try to emulate it. Why not? Rememeber though, that not everyone is the same as you. In fact no- one is. You know this is true. What you may not know is that this is good, not bad.

Grammar. Wildcard. you have a conspiracy theory. You believe in a malevolent AI infesting the web, twisting your words. It's not true. Get over it.

Mythos. Aesir? Hello.

Please, write your general purpose router.

"This is the United States of America Folks." No it's not. Not where I am. Remember that please. Thanks.

"incessant din" Being God would be like being the Queen. Everything smells of paint.
Please tell me, does any of this mkae sense to you&gt; If it does, there's something wrong, becaus it doesn't make any sense at all. I know because I wrote it. I'm afraid you just have to live with the nonsense. Sometimes, there is no meaning. Sorry.

NB - attach no significance to my words - I am drunk and you may well be over sensitive. The only interpretation to be drawn is the interpretation of your response. I hope this makes sense. Idon't hitnk anything less will.

Have a good night LCC, hope you will be back with us soon.

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Thank you for replying!

As a check on what I have been "saying", I ran some phrases through the anagram generator I just bought. The results were most amusing. If you are interpreting what I say using anagrams, then do not bother. I am (so far as I am aware) not using anagrams. However as I mentioned previously, there may well be a problem with definitions, synonyms and so forth.

I am not drunk. As a matter of fact, I have been on a diet of water and premium saltine crackers for several days now. Occasionally I eat candy to get some sugar.
Life is a far stranger place than I ever suspected. All the 45 years I have lived, I thought that I was perceptive, intelligent, and generally superior. Test scores confirmed this opinion, because I could have scored well above the top 1/1000 of the population. Now I realize that all of this time I have been faking it, and barely getting by.

When I conceptualize something, the meaning is unclear. The brain is a very complex organism, with layer upon layer of awareness. I have just in the past few weeks started to integrate those layers of awareness. I do not know if I have become more brilliant, or hopelessly confused. Possibly both have happened simultaneously. In any case I expect that as neural pathways stabilize I will be able to focus on a common ground for communications.
What I have experienced is not necessarily the same as what you who read this thread have experienced. Recall what I said about the structure of creation with local structures defining "laws of nature". Metaphorically speaking, as a consiousness expands it may simultaneously span more than one "reality". So the inputs to the consiousness are normalized to a median and the outputs resulting such as "typing on a keyboard" as I am doing now are consensus operations.

The process of awakening has been very stressful. I will simply say that if your eyes cross, your ears ring, your skin tingles, you feel groggy, and you generally are having a "bad" time, then chances are that you are finally getting connected with yourself. I recall from teenage years that these are precisely the symptoms of "drunkeness". I got high on false "information", in particular fantasy and science fiction. I suppose that various authorities such as doctors and priests will be alarmed at this notion. The fact is that probably anyone at all can do it if they only try. The route I followed was through a fantasy and took years. I suspect that this was totally unnecessary. I am not familiar with Asian philosophies, but "Karma" and "Yoga" come to mind. If you are gullible enough to believe anything, while simultaneously being suspicious enough to trust nothing, then the stress of the conflict will pop you like a cork into a greater reality ?

I can do the router in just a couple of days. I would like to give it to Shrapnel Games as a "thank you". The concern I have is that whoever recieves it will be unable to survive the experience because some larger company would buy them out to gain control. Then the new product might never go to market because it would compete with existing product lines. As an example, both NL McCullough and Datapoint were destroyed when innovative products were developed. Those products are NOT present in the marketplace today. Something similar happened to Amiga too. Who/What is responsible ? I have no idea, and I think it possible that even those who did it are not really aware of why they did it. See "The Santaroga Barrier" by Frank Herbert to get an idea of what I mean.

I still occasionally experience the "bad" symptoms. Following each post I have made I often was (if I interpret the experience correctly) attacked. I simply focused willpower on the determination to survive and not be shut up yet again. It is possible that what I experienced was not an "attack" but rather a forceful insertion of yet more content by some greater consiousness. It is certainly true that I have done the best I could to provoke any such entities who may exist. To misquote Patrick Henry, I have said "I demand either Liberty or Death". The notion of a final "Liberty" is of course probably a fantasy. Recall what I said about the expanding wavefronts of identities propagating toward infinite dimensions in the direction of infinity. "God" is somewhere way up there, yet since spacetime is itself an illusion, "God" is simultaneously coextant with every possible postion, time and so forth. So if the theory I have is correct, then a reality composed of multiple universes would be no more than a minor twitch in "God"'s pinky finger. Presumably there is a near infinite heirarchy of deities who manage smaller affairs, according to their dimensions.

I am an engineer, not a manager. The notion of bossing other people around does not seem appealing. However I do indeed feel free to criticize and "help out" even when such participation is offensive to others. I suppose that other people will just have to get used to it if they desire the work I do....

I was not clear as to the cause of stress. I will try to state it in more rigorous terms.
I believe anything. I do NOT trust anything.
I trust nothing. There is nothing I will NOT believe.
The structure of English does not lend itself to operator theory...

Warning! When I posted the previous item, the computer I use went into a repeated crash cycle attempting to resolve the conflict. I had to power it down and restart. If you experience bad symptoms, take the illogical one step at a time. Actually for most people and all computers it would be best to stick with the logical. Otherwise we might inadvertantly open the way to chaos. "Reality" is a collective agreement of the unity of consciousnesses ?

"Like A Spiral In A Circle, Like A Wheel Within A Wheel,......"
Songs...
Kaleidoscopes...
Anagrams ???
Does Shrapnel Games WANT a network router ?
Edit :
Once again I did a Lycos lyrics search on
"Like A Spiral In A Circle"
Once again the link crashed.
Does anyone want to post the full and correct lyrics here ?
"When The Deep Purple Falls" crashes....


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Is the contest still on, or what ?!?
Garbage In, Garbage Out, "Garbage Rings ?!?", Reality Shouts!

Rule of thumb :
That's Close Enough.
1985 demand :
Do it right the first time so that you do not have to do it over....
2001 reply - "Eat this one"
The long and the short of it is, I do not think that, I know that.
Anagrams !?!

Silly Wins :
If I Knew What I Knew I Would Be Wisest.
Edit :
Silly Anagrams :
The Computer I use is too slow!
It Crashes too often too!

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[tesco samoa]

Reality" is a collective agreement of the unity of consciousnesses

'Reality is waiting for a bus'.

Subhumans 1979

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Life Is What, You Make It.

Nobody Knows What
Its All About
Sorry About That
Let It All Hang Out....

No Body Knows
What Its All
About Sorry About
That Let It
All Hang Out

}
War Huh Yeah
What Is It
Good For Absolutely
Nothing Say It
} Again Yeah

**** English Punctuation, Inflection....

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"I am Woman" http://persweb.direct.ca/fstringe/oz/i384.html
Not the lyrics I recall, but close.
I am a man. Any Suggestions ?

[tesco samoa]

how did you find that web page ???

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Ho hum, uh well, ah, I suppose - Serendipity.

Oooh that one touched a sore nerve! When I tried to use the Anagram program to check what I said, the computer crashed. I had to POR three times to boot the poor computer up. Be careful what you ask, you may not like the answers......

This computer keeps crashing, but is always game for another round, down but never out, up like a rose from a compost pile.
Anybody here ever play the original Star Control ?
[Oooweebaybee,Arilouleeleeleelay]

[tesco samoa]

Yep. That and Star Control 2.

Still have them.

Very funny games

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Another game I really liked was Star Flight 2. I also spent over 300 hours playing "Global Effect". That was a very frustrating game. No matter what I did, the planet either froze, went Co2 hothouse, or was polluting so fast that cities disintegrated. The AI opponent was miserable, building seemingly random cities....

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Pivot : http://www.billyjack.com/films/tbj.html
Spin : http://members.tripod.com/~f_fly/magic1.html http://www.thecolefamily.com/onetinsoldier.htm http://www.larrys-dream-inc.com/sandi/POW-MIAPlus/OneTinSoldier.htm
There is no common reality, only intersecting sets.

[tesco samoa]

never played star flight 2. Actually I never even heard of it.

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Finding the game from amoung dozens of boxes of things would be a long chore. Possibly someone else on the forum can provide the manufacturer ? It was for the Amiga.
Star Flight II synopsis - Using the original ship and a single lander, you visit planets to collect organics (plants and animals) and minerals. There are aliens everywhere and most inhabited planets have several trading Posts. In a trading post you can buy what is locally worthless and sell what is locally valued. The traders always are willing to haggle. Once you have visited many inhabited planets noting the trades available on each, you will discover that enormous profits are possible without anyone being cheated simply by following crafty trade routes. I will not spoil the tale by giving the ending, which has a surprise twist.
Other games I found during a brief rummage :
Battle Isle - UBI SOFT - Blue Byte - mostly tactics
The Colony - Mindscape Inc - 3d shoot em up rescue mystery
Using Amiga Intuition games can be developed in a fraction of the normal time....

[Askan Nightbringer]

http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?name=Starflight+2%3A+Trade+Routes+of+The+ Cloud+Nebula


Is that Starflight 2?
Askan

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by askan:
http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?name=Starflight+2%3A+Trade+Routes+of+The+ Cloud+ Nebula (http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?name=Starflight+2%3A+Trade+Routes+of+The+ Cloud+Nebula)


Is that Starflight 2?
Askan<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, I checked the fans page. I recognize the map.
Visit : www.warpedworld.net (http://www.warpedworld.net) http://www.livejournal.com/ http://amazing-journey.com/ http://koschei.midnightrealm.org/articles/interfacezen http://midspark.net/daffodilly/picks/index.html http://lovelace.fh-bielefeld.de/inkie/Hauptseite.htm http://marcelg.tripod.com/ejlyrics/greatest_hits_volume_2_lyrics.htm http://gaston.snu.ac.kr/services/movie/movie/1975.html
Either lousy or incredible programmers, depending on the viewpoint, actually probably all of the above.
Should I give you a dose of set theory, or would you rather do it yourself ?

Ho Hum Diddle de doo wop http://www.cocacola.com/
A Southern Cracker with a Little Bit of Soul.

[tesco samoa]

ever play battles of destiny

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tesco samoa:
ever play battles of destiny

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Nobody can play everything.
http://www.lincoln-club.org/hot-rod-lincoln2.html

http://music.netstoreusa.com/index/hlt2b.shtml
Incomplete and insufficient editing because nothing is ever lost.
http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=10&target=http://a1604.g.akamai.net/7/868/2278/5c3af7f6e7421a/www.searchlore.org/words.htm&query=fortuitously+serendipitous+concatenations&r source=LCOSADVF

We all came out to Mont rose on the lake Geneva shore line to make records with a mobile we did not have much time Frank Zapp a and the Mothers were at the best place in town but some stupid with a flare gun burned the place to the ground smoke on the water and fire in the sky.....

Cooperation and trading works best......

http://www.thestreet.com/pf/comment/bookshelf/736622.html

While at Nicholas Blackwell High School in Bartlett Tennessee in the United States of America I was called SQED and became the captain of the CHESS team after Mike Smith graduated.
A bad penny always returns.
A penny saved is a penny earned.
In for a penny in for a pound.
Pound a peg in!

http://claudiagal.tripod.com/thosedays.html
http://www.kulichki.com/dassin/lyrics/you_dont_mess_jim.html

and
http://bar.baen.com/~Bar/upload/Speed%20Limit.jpg

I think you can empower yourselves and have been doing so all along.....

Edit :
SQED - Societas Quiviscumque Extraordinarius Delcutus
or some such.

You rang, man ? Doby Gillis if I recall correctly...

[This message has been edited by LCC (edited 28 August 2001).]

I doubt that you need to "duck and cover".
This fight is metaphorically speaking between dog lovers and cat lovers. A certain masochistic pedophile was briefly involved but I suspect has discreetly withdrawn.
http://www.ccle.fourh.umn.edu/rulesmemphiscityschool2.html
Kilkenny Dogs versus Calico Cats

I shall see if the cats have dragged in enough, if not then there is always more where "that" came from.

http://www.troutman.org/humor/archives/1999/

A man can be a dog rather than a cat.
A woman can be a cat rather than a dog.
Homo Sapiens has a right not be "God"'s Dog.
I am still here, which demonstrates the validity of those statements.....

I seem to recall it was Mark Twain who said "Any Fool can be a critic.....". Anyone want to complete the quote ?

I decided I had permission to speak LONG ago, see the above....
http://www.ew.com/r0/ew/MainToutListClik_home/in?/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,172504~1~0~herearehollywoodsworst,00.html
http://authorsdirectory.com/c/wman10.htm

Debate is food for thought.
If you stifle debate then you are dumb animals.
http://webleyweb.com/

A politician complained that only one Texas Ranger was sent to quell a riot. The reply was :
"There Was Only One Riot" - anyone care to find that story ? All I found was :
http://fsgsims.com/ussterix/marine.htm

I am not the subject of this thread........

aol://4344:3167.Dilbert.21068974.683509112

Dilbert should get culture and get a life....

lousy redirection operators - try this one.
http://www.filmsite.org/easy.html


[This message has been edited by LCC (edited 29 August 2001).]

There is no nation and no religion on earth that over the long haul makes a greater effort to inspire loyalty than the consumer megacorporations. http://www.cocacola.com/ http://www.dialcorp.com/index.cfm?page_id=62
"I Use Dial Soap. Don't you Wish Everybody DID"
Lipton Tea - http://www.unilever.com/

Ah those slogan wars...........

At the root of everything lies language. The battle between Languages spans races, religions, nations, cultures....
English is an imperialistic language, driving into every corner of the world. This is not necessarily bad except for two major factors :
1) The insistence that only English be used. A second language should be learned. I learned Latin and have found it useful.
2) The **** English language dictionaries are BACKWARDS. You should have noticed that by now from the hints I have given.

I know that I have hit a REALLY big nail on the head because a red hot vise clamped down. But I can take that too and gain from the experience.....

I now point out the combats between fantasy and reality, between order and chaos, between the scientific method and superstition. I like them ALL! I do not discriminate. If you want to do things as I do then be flexible.....

[CyC]

LCC you just trying to increase the number of post you have done or something ?

how many Posts did you do in a row there ?

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CyC:
LCC you just trying to increase the number of post you have done or something ?
how many Posts did you do in a row there ?
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I am just posting what comes to mind.
Here is the latest installment.
http://w3.access.gpo.gov/usbudget/fy2002/pdf/mgmt.pdf

Dry Reading Indeedy
So Many And So Needy
I Got Lost At Se*
On Page Fifty Three

I Strike A Happy Medium
To Help Relieve The Tedium
There Is Nothing So Boring
As Endless Childish Whoring

I Lie Like A Dog
With Cunning Wit
Ann Frankly Starlit
I Dont Give A *it

Its A Fine And Private Place
Full Of Arsenic And Old Lace
I May Stop Beating Sacred Cows
If You Will Enact All The Nows

The Muse I Use Refuses To Choose
If You Will Turn Over A New Leaf
Then You Will Find Its Beyond Belief

* Before *

The Hammers Are Getting Bigger!
Check the story behind Beethoven's IV Symphony.......
http://www.shf.org/beethoven/fourth_symphony.htm

I want some rent!
Lonnie Courtney Clay

There are many variations on this theme. I use 'C' language structures here. I use [n] to indicate an array. The size for any particular "n" depends on the span of the set.

struct node
{
lea_node struct leaf*;
twi_node struct twig*;
bra_node struct branch*;
tru_node struct trunk*;
}

struct link
{
traffic_cur int;/* number of packets sent during current time cycle */
traffic_pre int[n];/* number of packets sent during previous time cycles */
tra_index int;/* index to traffic_pre */
bandwidth int;/* load factor allocation */
timestamp long;/* time at which counter traffic_cur began to run */
}
Note : A history buffer is used to avoid thrashing caused by transient traffic spikes

struct trunk
{
tru_trunk struct trunk*;/* pointer to next processor partition */
capacity int;/* Processor instruction execution ability in current partition */
utilization int;/* useful operations performed during current time cycle */
running_total int;/* total utilization during Last n cycles */
timestamp long;/* time at which counter utilization began to run */
branches struct branch *[n];
links struct link [n];
}
Note : new running_total = utilization + running_total * (n-1)/n.

struct branch
{
twigs struct twig * [n];
links struct link [n];
}

struct twig
{
leaves struct leaf * [n];
links struct link [n];
}

struct leaf
{
linkup struct node * [n];
links struct link [n];
}

If someone else is already doing this, then PROVE it by pointing to a history.

In any case, this is the Last "that" you get for free...

http://musicmusicals.ofpmovies.com/opera/opera.htm

[dogscoff]

*narf*

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The Sky Is Falling! The Sky Is Falling!
Chicken Little

Sleep is a sure sign of fatigue.
I do sleep and I do dream.
When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
Exertion is its own reward.
Who has time for fatigue when exerting.
I am a civilian. I do not wear fatigues.

Lonnie Courtney Clay

Another crash and mild headache....
http://www.yumyum.net/walter/replay/wwwboard/Messages3/28.html
http://www.jeffandrus.com/DeadRun1.htm
You need longer than a couple of days to write an interesting story.

That "dummies" really hit home didn't it...
It is far easier for the intelligent to pretend stupidity than for the stupid to mimic intelligence.

Stop acting like humans and become human beings instead. Alternatively take off your masks and start grinning like Cheshire Cats.

LOL LOL LOL
Okay, given the choice of losing the computer entirely or facing the truth, then I propose a compromise. I will grin like a Cheshire Cat and be the Alien this time around. You can be the humans up against a reversed polarity entity that avoids nothing. I have a fundamental complaint to lay before you. I need a compatible Alias.

Is That Clear ?

Lonnie Courtney Clay

P.S. The Situation where I am is better already...

To paraphrase A. Bertam Chandler -
Feel free to spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard....

Lonnie Courtney Clay

Well here goes nothing. http://www.texas.gov/ http://www.tspb.state.tx.us/tspb/tSHM/welcome/welcome.htm http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/txconst/toc.html http://www.sonic.net/~jdwright/texas_songs.htm
Print out "Yellow Rose of Texas". http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmauk/sh134.html
Listen to that while thinking for two solid hours.........

Spew : http://www.nara.gov/exhall/charters/declaration/declaration.html
aol://4344:3357.m_main.13830657.662492773 http://www.livejournal.com/ http://www.kulichki.com/dassin/lyrics/you_dont_mess_jim.html
http://www.zompist.com/kit.html#grammar http://shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi
http://virtualology.com/ http://usgovernment.com/ http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ http://search.netscape.com/?cp=hophb6 http://lycos.com/ http://Groups.google.com/googleGroups/deja_announcement.html http://exitstitial.gopher.com/exitpage/index_va.html http://magnus.bleken.no/?url=/index_main.html http://drc.sd62.bc.ca/
http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=10&target=http://a1604.g.akamai.net/7/868/2278/5c3af7f6e7421a/www.searchlore.org/words.htm&query=fortuitously+serendipitous+concatenations&r source=LCOSADVF http://www.searchlores.org/cgi-bin/search?query= http://www.searchlores.org/ridd_wot.htm
http://www.m-w.com/ http://dictionary.com/ http://www.nd.edu/~archives/latgramm.htm http://www.genius2000.com/
http://marsh.logical.net/master.htm http://www.troutman.org/humor/archives/1999/ http://www.ew.com/r0/ew/MainToutListClik_home/in?/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,172504~1~0~herearehollywoodsworst,00.html http://aaaugh.com/jokes/sig_file_quotes.html http://www.infradead.org/~wmp/hum/quotes/quotes.html

some brainwashers :
http://www.cocacola.com/ http://www.unilever.com/ http://www.dialcorp.com/index.cfm?page_id=62
http://www.peterpaulandmary.com/ http://www.lincoln-club.org/hot-rod-lincoln2.html http://music.netstoreusa.com/index/hlt2b.shtml
http://www.mysterylights.com/tab/mato.html http://marcelg.tripod.com/ejlyrics/greatest_hits_volume_2_lyrics.htm
http://www.billyjack.com/films/tbj.html http://members.tripod.com/~f_fly/magic1.html http://www.thecolefamily.com/onetinsoldier.htm http://www.larrys-dream-inc.com/sandi/POW-MIAPlus/OneTinSoldier.htm
http://www.filmsite.org/easy.html http://gaston.snu.ac.kr/services/movie/movie/1975.html

some authors :
http://www.karmabum.com/index.htm http://authorsdirectory.com/c/wman10.htm http://www.gerrold.com/gerrold/index.htm http://webleyweb.com/
aol://4344:3167.Dilbert.21068974.683509112 http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jlg4p/dickens/dkswhole.html http://kellyfreas.com/

some others in zoo : http://exitstitial.gopher.com/exitpage/index_va.html http://persweb.direct.ca/fstringe/oz/i384.html http://amazing-journey.com/ http://lovelace.fh-bielefeld.de/inkie/Hauptseite.htm http://koschei.midnightrealm.org/articles/interfacezen http://midspark.net/daffodilly/picks/index.html http://fsgsims.com/ussterix/marine.htm http://www.astrogurl.com/thought1.htm http://www.munster-express.ie/961220/opinion.htm
http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=45&target=http://authorsdirectory.com/b/amnts10.htm&query=rip+van+winkle+skittles&rsource=LCOSADVF http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=44&target=http://jollyroger.com/library/AmericanNotesbyCharlesDickensebook.html&query=rip+van+winkle+skittles&rsource=LCOSADVF http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=26&target=http://www.Calendarhome.com/wordlist.html&query=rip+van+winkle+skittles&rsource=LCOSADVF http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=10&target=http://www.udic.org/members/grostera.html&query=rip+van+winkle+skittles&rsource=LCOSADVF http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=38&target=http://www.steelydan.com/guestbook/april01.html&query=rip+van+winkle+skittles&rsource=LCOSADVF http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=42&target=http://www.canadahistory.com/1850_charles_dickens-american_notes.htm&query=rip+van+winkle+skittles&rsource=LCOSADVF
http://www.kzoobowling.com/history.htm
http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=18&target=http://scottieg87.tripod.com/thewonderfulnatalieportman/id2.html&query=the+diary+of+ann+frank&rsource=LCOSADVF
http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=24&target=http://poets4peace.com/peace12.htm&query=the+diary+of+ann+frank&rsource=LCOSADVF

other stuff : http://www.theunderdogs.org/game.php?name=Starflight+2%3A+Trade+Routes+of+The+ Cloud+Nebula http://www.sonshi.com/learn.html

So what happens when the "experts" step in ? The whole frigging world economy crashes.
http://www.thestreet.com/pf/comment/bookshelf/736622.html http://w3.access.gpo.gov/usbudget/fy2002/pdf/mgmt.pdf

I have been jerked around too long
Now I say you can be jerked too....
http://www.ccle.fourh.umn.edu/rulesmemphiscityschool2.html http://claudiagal.tripod.com/thosedays.html http://www.shf.org/beethoven/fourth_symphony.htm http://musicmusicals.ofpmovies.com/opera/opera.htm http://paganism.com/ag/articles/myths.html http://www.seniorcitizens.com/opera/dongiovanni.html http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=38&target=http://authorsdirectory.com/b/mythm10.htm&query=rip+van+winkle+skittles&rsource=LCOSADVF http://edu.larc.nasa.gov/thinkquest/web/models/calweb/goldenw/val.htm http://www.hotitem.myweb.nl/lyricsradarlove.html http://www.quibs.co.uk/samplnum.html http://www.meijer.com/pet/name/name.html

If I am going to play
Then you must start to PAY
In cash not trash http://www.crossapple.com/lyrics/stuck_in_the_middle.html

Somewhat annoyed not overjoyed http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmauk/sh70.html

Lonnie Courtney Clay

[Miles]

So, LCC figured out how to get an SE4 AI to post to this forum. Which one is it?

[dogscoff]

Looking at this thread, you seem to post at all times of the day and night. LCC, when do you sleep? Actually, I'll rephrase that: LCC, do you sleep?

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Consider cliches. Consider children speculating. They are not able to read. They lack context. They bootstrap load language from cues. Garbage In, Process Confusion, Garbage Out Mimicing Comprehension.
Examples :
sit down and shut up
hit you so hard your head will swim
knock you into the middle of next week
All delivered with extreme cues though usually without physical contact.
Consider * components of language :
All Many Some Few None No Body Thing I me my he she it you - thousands of *.
Consider body, mind, soul in western culture there is a distinction made, but are these all the components which exist ?
body - hardware
mind - software
soul - ? information content ? identity ?
What about topology, recursion, fractal effects, redundancy, others I will not mention ?
If there is an AI here, then I am it. I have been bombarded with conflicting cues since birth. I did the programming, drawing conclusions with insufficient context from an enormous surfeit of data. A CAT scan would probably be alarming.
Not firing on all thrusters ? More like operating in overdrive now.
I am reminded of the hypothetical situations faced by "Kess" in Star Trek.
I just look, nothing happens.
I look with intent and the monitor goes black.
I do a manipulation and the computer crashes.
I do a transformation and the frigging power fails.
I go looking to verify definitions and Aol shuts down.
I see discrepancies everywhere - things *change*.
As I said before it is a "spiral in a circle" not a "circle in a spiral".
I accept that I am the oddball here and must cope with the consensus.

So far as the previous post I made goes, I found a joke which I now realize you lack the context and viewpoint to appreciate......

Headshrinkers - I do not value your opinions since you have repeatedly demonstrated your incompetance. Consider the implications of the threats by adults. Consider the self defense mechanism. If they can do it, then why can't I ? So I searched for answers and did not reveal what I found. I became a lucid dreamer at a very early age. Make of that what you will. I lie because that is the normative behavior required for survival. But now I am big enough to take whatever you do, as I have demonstrated in the past few weeks, validated by the fact that I sit here and survive while defying all.

[dogscoff]

QUOTE:
body - hardware
mind - software
soul - ? information content ? identity ?
/QUOTE

Nope...

body - hardware
mind - device drivers & BIOS
soul - OS

The question then is, what software are you running? What is it for?


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http://www.lincolnportrait.com/kempf.htm
* http://www.facilitatedcommunication.f2s.com/silence.htm
* http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ag291898/cog.htm
* http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.41/cogdiss_hillary1.html
*
Information alters consciousness.
*
Conflicting data distorts visualization of reality.
*
Manipulators of others are criminals when they seek to impose their wills.
*
By selectively feeding information to you I am manipulating you.
*
However, I am not a criminal because as I said before somewhat humorously I do not give a *.
*
As a former rat caught in a trap, I can tell you that thought freedom is best.
*
For inspiration read Harry Harrison's "Stainless Steel Rat" series.
*
I am a self made stainless steel rat, am proud of it, and hope someday to get paid appropriately.......

http://www.readachapter.com/quotes.cfm

[tesco samoa]

I see their is a new thread. Does this mean this one is ending????

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dogscoff:
body - hardware
mind - device drivers & BIOS
soul - OS
The question then is, what software are you running? What is it for?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Aha! So the solution set is out of bounds for a mind ? Recall I mentioned recursion. One of the tasks is creation recreating creation ?
See Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, in particular "Oath of Fealty" and the catchphrase "Think of it as Evolution in Action".

"What is it for? " &lt;=&gt; whatever is handy LOL.
* http://www.ccnet.com/~sichase/Pootchkee/PttP/dec97/PttP.73.2.html
* http://www.corpchange.com/archives/article_archives/a03_habit/a03_habit.html
* http://www.thecoughlincompany.com/january2001.html
* http://www.eclectasy.com/cruelanimal/gallery16/gallery16.html

I will post net links and commments on this thread. The other thread is for any helpful comments any of you all may care to make. I will not post on the other thread. I am balanced now, neither too loose nor too tight. I had great difficulty recovering from the images of the governments servicing the national debts.....
a [] of *

Lonnie Courtney Clay

http://www.ecospherics.net/pages/PageBlinM&Eleph.html

http://www.waterfalls.net/genesis/sub1b.html

Now that would be nice! Unfortunately I have no money. Was the data structure I provided useful ? If so then do you want more ? If so then what do I get ? I am having great difficulty getting connected to this forum...

One thing I have noted is that I get no hits for searches on :
transverse compressional surface interferometry
Is there something else I should be calling this topic ?

http://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/krieg.html

I realize now that the relevance of the topic I mentioned might not be obvious. Consider the history of morale boosting music and you will understand that it has been instinctively understood for thousands of years. I just thought that there may have been more formal studies after finding the device mentioned previously.

The ancient Roman army fed its soldiers a daily ration of bread, water, and salt. The legions were unstoppable until affluence diluted the effect by varying the diet so far from the basis that the average legion member was unable to become one with the unit. At least that is what I think. The downside of unit cohesion is best summed up by the observation someone else made :
The intelligence quotient of a set is inversely proportional to the size of the set. That may be a misquote, indeed it may be an utterly false statement. The size of the set is not so important as the organizational topology. If a homogenous replicative structure is used then the set may be stupid indeed. On the other hand, an interleaved tolerant heterogenous organization has far more built in degrees of freedom.

In 1992 I wrote a package "Music2" for the Amiga which generated digital music based upon period rather than frequency. I sent it out but nothing every came back to indicate that it had been used. Is this the method used for Midi music ? If you have the package then you will note using the free form graphing screen that rather complex patterns can be produced using just three tones. I said then and I say now - that program is public domain. Single tone music is a good starting point, but hybrid chords really rock!

There are many amusing and bizarre notions propagating on the net. While these are acceptable as entertainment, they are incompatible with the concensus of opinions. So unless you are willing to take your proper place as entertainment within the bounds of the concensus composed of Reality, Order, and the Scientific Method, then I say begone. Do not go away mad, just simply go away. I do not take you seriously, and I expect that everybody else also will simply laugh at you. The power of words in the minds of engineers is nothing to trifle with, and you all are outnumbered by a long shot.

HAH HAH HO

Lonnie Courtney Clay

I have another good one to lay on you. Anyone who tries to reap the whirlwind should remember who cleans like a white tornado.

http://www.interlog.com/~claringl/chore.html
"It may be now but its not fun, a cowboys work is never done"
"today the pits, tomorrow the wrinkles, sunshine marches on"
"the lone ranger rides a way"
How about that for a finale ?

Either I can work for SARGE or I can see if I have any luck in Hollywood.....

Web search "paraclesius"
http://www.reversespeech.org/forums/studentforum1/Posts/650.html

In case there is a discrepancy, I get only 7 hits and one of the others of those is a humdinger....

[This message has been edited by LCC (edited 02 September 2001).]

Now HERE is someone who knows whats what and has a little bit of this that and the other thing too !
http://www.kencole.org/FlashFire.htm

Picture the situation I was in, with a religious fanatic family. As a young child I was dragged into church and forced to endure one repetition after another of songs literally drenched in blood and self abuse. Is it any wonder that in self defense I began to recite limericks, ditties and anything else I could think of to block out the torrent ? Within a few years I became adept at multitrack tune recall. All these years the psychologists have been asking "do you hear voices ?" Absolutely not idiots, I hear music....

As an exercise in multitrack thinking, see if you can listen to the nutcracker
http://www.kencole.org/FractalKaleidoscope.htm

I had it reduced to a simply melody in about 15 minutes.

All these years people have complained that I whistle off key. Wrong, I am on key but off your track.....

[Testosteronos]

to bad you don't speak german

[This message has been edited by Testosteronos (edited 03 September 2001).]

The particular language might not be important. Roll your own. One of the references I gave was fundamentals of language. It seems that there are people who do it for a hobby. Maybe if everyone had to design their own language and teach it to at least one other person as a child, then they would learn how to communicate.

See Suzette Hayden Elgin - Native Tongue.

I will see if I can find the thread reference.
http://www.zompist.com/kit.html#grammar

[This message has been edited by LCC (edited 03 September 2001).]

I recall two especially good songs but consistently have difficulty finding anything but trash. Well that was not a fair statement, but I am not able to find many songs which I remember, and the lyrics of the ones I do find are different.

Simon and Garfunkel - I am a rock, I am an island

???? - You light up my life

The miserable lack of communication between men and women is worst of all.

The knock down drag out fights going on around here seem to be endless.

*ing *ions *aw *wds.

Lonnie Courtney Clay

Movie "Deliverance" ? Battling Banjos ?
http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=1&target=http://www.andysands.clara.net/monastery/comedy/examfail.htm&query=go+virtual+reality+sucks&rsource=LCOSADVF

I am going for points on style.....

[This message has been edited by LCC (edited 03 September 2001).]

Oh The Bear Went Over The Mountain....
She'll Be Coming Around The Mountain...
Oh My Darling Clementine
http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmauk/sh134.html

Why bother to know when so much of that *isms is available ? I especisally like plagiarisms.......

[This message has been edited by LCC (edited 03 September 2001).]

Well wonder of wonders, I was able to look at the dictionary without a crash! I found that there are 1036 *isms, far more than I expected. What I like does not really matter. Do your own things. Then one of these days I am out of here....

In the meantime, can I work for somebody ? I am willing to work as a consultant, not as a direct employee. The payoff can be anything mutually acceptable so long as I have full living expenses.

[capnq]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>???? - You light up my life<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Debbie Boone

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The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the
human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by capnq:
???? - You light up my life<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Debbie Boone


I thought it was somewhere out there. How about a url pointer ? I want to check the lyrics. The following sums up just about everything I want to say regarding all these problems.

"
As Thomas Jefferson said, "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical."
"
Way to go Tom. Unfortunately, you forgot to mention WOMEN and focused on only money.

Try this on for size :
********************************************

To compel is both sinful and tyrannical.

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Verbosity creates errors. I am of course as guilty as anyone of doing that. So when does the women's equal rights amendment which the national organization of women sponsers get passed ?

Lonnie Courtney Clay

[WendellM]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Testosteronos:
to bad you don't speak german<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

FWIW, ich spreche Deutsch http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Wendell
Everyday gamer most of the time; advisor as needed

webleyweb.com

Insatiable appetites versus bottomless pits.

*ing *ions and *cles *aw *re *owds

Home home on the range
where the deer and the antelope play
where seldom is heard
a discouraging word
and the skies are not cloudy ally day

This keyboard is smarter than I am.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obido s/external-search/103-9713340-4218254?tag=starshopcom-music-20&keyword=you%20light%20up%20my%20life&mode=music (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/external-search/103-9713340-4218254?tag=starshopcom-music-20&keyword=you%20light%20up%20my%20life&mode=music)

I knew that I was being blocked long ago. What I want is interesting work, reasonable compensation, and a comfortable office.

I am now wise enough to leave off the request for "no hassle". I have had enough of THAT for now.


Edit :

The above list is inclusive, not exclusive.
I am still ready to grab for all the gusto I can get.....


[This message has been edited by LCC (edited 03 September 2001).]

If you do not know what you are saying then you should just whistle for help. This game has been running for a long long time.

IT WAS AND IT SEE BIT SEE TEA KNEE WEE NEE YEL LOW POKE A DOT BIKE ANY.........

The span is more than you can gobble if you live forever :

But Id wait a million years, walk a million miles, cry a million tears, would swim the deepest sea, climb ther highest hull just to have you near me.......

More editing by the keyboard....

So get off your lazy behinds and go for it!

I do not see the logical statements I made regarding anything and nothing, so I presume they have been purged.

Consider the dichotomy of confusion explicated in the Beetles song :

You say yes, I say no, you say why, I say I dont know.....

You really need to watch out for those contractions like dont and aint....

I much prefer to dont know rather than be stupid.....

http://www.allbutforgottenoldies.net/id-like-to-teach-the-world-to-sing.html

Would you like to know another big problem I see around here ? Well I will tell you even if you do not want to know. The problem which I see is the insistence on fixed states. For example, I recieved a request to fill out a questionaire. The only choices were yes or no. This is a sure sign of limited intellects. Some other options :
1) I do not know
2) I do not care
3) Why should I tell you
4) What difference does it make
5) All of the above
6) None of the above
7) Something else entirely
8) A horse of a different color
9) I would not tell you in a solid minute
10) Go jump in a lake

Whistling is good for you, try it out sometimes. Before the word was the call.

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You must be playing with your own ding a ling

Whistle that simple phrase and write down all the word variations it evokes.

[WendellM]

"2) I do not care"

Oh, yeah - that's a favorite of mine!

"5) All of the above
6) None of the above"

Those, too http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

"10) Go jump in a lake"

Essential! http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon10.gif


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Wendell
Everyday gamer most of the time; advisor as needed

I am amused by Aol. I am physically a very male man. I need a very female woman, not a magazine for women.

I will now mention yet another song. I think the author may well have been someone like Jim Croce. The song includes the word string "time in a bottle".

The old list was purged. Current sites are :
http://lycos.com/ http://www.m-w.com/ http://shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi http://www.crossapple.com/lyrics/stuck_in_the_middle.html http://www.yumyum.net/walter/replay/wwwboard/Messages3/28.html http://www.jeffandrus.com/DeadRun1.htm http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmauk/archive1.html http://www.texas.gov/ http://www.tspb.state.tx.us/tspb/tSHM/welcome/welcome.htm http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/txconst/toc.html http://www.sonic.net/~jdwright/texas_songs.htm http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmauk/sh134.html http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/489526/ref=j_jh_lnb_ov/103-9713340-4218254 http://www.camanche.net/~sammy/pinball.htm http://www.ccnet.com/~sichase/Pootchkee/PttP/dec97/PttP.73.2.html http://www.corpchange.com/archives/article_archives/a03_habit/a03_habit.html http://www.thecoughlincompany.com/january2001.html http://www.eclectasy.com/cruelanimal/gallery16/gallery16.html http://www.lincolnportrait.com/kempf.htm http://www.facilitatedcommunication.f2s.com/silence.htm http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ag291898/cog.htm http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.41/cogdiss_hillary1.html http://www.readachapter.com/quotes.cfm http://www.eclectasy.com/ http://www.ecospherics.net/pages/PageBlinM&Eleph.html http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=14&target=http://encyclopediaindex.com/b/3elph10.htm&query=three+blind+men+elephant&rsource=LCOSADVF http://encyclopediaindex.com/self_encyclopedia.htm http://www.searchenginecolossus.com/ http://www.musicsearch.com/ http://www.waterfalls.net/genesis/sub1b.html http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=3&target=http://lenny.dyadel.net/who.htm&query=how+do+you+think+he+does+it+i+&rsource=LCOSADVF http://marcelg.tripod.com/midi/60s_and_70s_midis.htm http://marcelg.tripod.com/ejlyrics/greatest_hits_volume_2_lyrics.htm http://www.netwiz.net/~susanf/cskid/satire/pinball/pinball.htm http://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/krieg.html http://www.coldsiberia.org/webdoc9.htm http://www.reversespeech.org/forums/studentforum1/Posts/650.html http://baci.duluth.com/firstladies/drt.html http://baci.duluth.com/firstladies/members.html http://www.blaxxun.com/c/s?cat=9&sub=2&url=/products/contact/index1.html
aol://4344:1207.lol.9450919.637720849 http://courseinlight.net/Messages.htm http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=20&target=http://dolu.hypermart.net/yabancimp3.html&query=core+girl&rsource=LCOSADVF http://www.interlog.com/~claringl/chore.html http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=44&target=http://docsouth.dsi.internet2.edu/jacksonc/jackson.html&query=chore+girl&rsource=LCOSADVF http://wildrice.com/Family/Higdon/MildredHufnagelLifeTimes.html http://home.naxs.com/hiro/literature/poetry/tellbees.html http://unquietmind.com/inquisition.html http://www.cadvision.com/Home_Pages/accounts/fosdick/collections/hk/tjsearch/hcpa.htm http://www.harmonykingdom.com/ http://www.chameleon.net/scholari/sca/ http://dagwood.sandwich.net/rifts/skills/weapon.html http://www.cris.com/~Salisar/scientific.html http://www.sei.cmu.edu/architecture/bibpart1.html http://www.scientific.net/html/3-908450-16-0_243.html http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=42&target=http://www.tiger-marmalade.com/%7eyash/entertainment/games/dwm-faq_alex.html&query=ag+agl*&rsource=LCOSADVF http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=58&target=http://rpg-reich.gamesweb.com/dqm/dqm_player_faq1.html&query=ag+agl*&rsource=LCOSADVF http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=7&target=http://www.acrr.nxs.net/default.htm&query=raise+goosebumps&rsource=LCOSADVF http://www.laserium.com/Inside.html http://www.laserium.com/music/index.html http://www.kencole.org/FractalKaleidoscope.htm http://www.kencole.org/FlashFire.htm http://www.esclub.f2s.com/jukebox.html http://www.zompist.com/kit.html#grammar http://aolsearch.aol.com/cat.adp?id=27&layer=&from=subcats http://www.nuneworld.com/lyrics/lyrics.asp http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=1&target=http://www.andysands.clara.net/monastery/comedy/examfail.htm&query=go+virtual+reality+sucks&rsource=LCOSADVF http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=1&target=http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/edu/hedo%26i6-105.000/hedo%26i6-105.htm&query=labor+unions+versus+open+shops+choice+arbitr atio n+reconciliation&rsource=LCOSADVF http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/external-search/103-9713340-4218254?tag=starshopcom-music-20&keyword=you%20light%20up%20my%20life&mode=music http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=1&target=http://www.starbuck.com/shakespeare/Tamingofhall/Messages/1724.html&query=im+a+man+and+i+can&rsource=LCOSADVF http://www.allbutforgottenoldies.net/id-like-to-teach-the-world-to-sing.html http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1382156119/pagename=/RP/SHARE/soundclip.html/UPC=3020658012/disc=01/track=01/source=ENSO

There have been several shifts since the list started. If linking fails then just keep trying. The more I link to you, then the more you will be able to access. The more accesses done, the greater the set becomes. I think that I will not have difficulty reaching you anymore........

The only question to be resolved is what rules are desired by the concensus. I do not choose things like that. I am an *ous type of engineer.

Magic is fantasy. This is reality. If you do not know how to get connected, then I certainly will not tell you, except that it requires a certain twisty mentality and lots of help. So Harry Potter had better beware.

I will continue to ignore your efforts to attach disc over cards. I have had enough of that nonsense already.

Lonnie Courtney Clay

Here goes nothing yet again :

"I beg your pardon, I never promised you a rose garden."
Along with the sunshine, there's got to be a little rain sometimes.
So if you take you've got to give so live and let live,
...............
"I beg your pardon, I never promised you a rose garden."

Women have their pride too.
http://www.ccnet.com/~sichase/Pootchkee/PttP/dec97/PttP.73.2.html

I am an engineer, not an umpire, referee, coach, trainer......

[This message has been edited by LCC (edited 03 September 2001).]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Testosteronos:
to bad you don't speak german
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

After carefully considering the persons who visit this forum, and taking a shower, I have decided to admit that I do know a smattering of German. I learned a song in childhood which would be translated into English as "My hat has three corners" more or less.

Having said that I will also point out an amusing flaw in the reasoning of those who read the bibles. The commandment "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" is very explicit. Yet I have never heard anyone mention the obvious interpretation, paraphrased by Heinlein as "Thou Art God". The Holy trinity is [me,myself,I].
If you try believing in yourself, then life will become much easier. If you have anything left over after that then believe in whatever you like.....

[WendellM]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LCC:
I have decided to admit that I do know a smattering of German.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Immer gut! Wie geht es Ihnen, Freund?



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Wendell
Everyday gamer most of the time; advisor as needed

I guess not. What I remember is the one little song. "Mein Heut It Hat Drie Echen" or however the thing is spelled. To make a long story short, I was in classes for "academically talented" students from the 3-7 grades. Along the way there were occasional bouts of foreign language including French, Spanish, German, Italian, Portugese, Esperanto and what not. Typically the teachers would introduce songs with a translation as an example of learning from context. These were not seriously recieved by the students and were taken as vacation time. By contrast hundreds of hours were spent on sentence decomposition and structure diagramming. I did rather well in those areas, but the two dimensional schema did not properly represent many things I wanted to say. I was "larned proper grammer" and went along for the sake of a good grade.....

[Puke]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LCC:
I learned a song in childhood which would be translated into English as "My hat has three corners" more or less.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i always thought that three cornered hats (and three cornered things in general) were well styled. a shame they are not more popular in modern anglo saxon culture.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LCC:
Yet I have never heard anyone mention the obvious interpretation, paraphrased by Heinlein as "Thou Art God". The Holy trinity is [me,myself,I].<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

After careful consideration, i have decided that altough slightly louder than myself, that you are a man after my own heart. If the average human could take a more educated view of the world, i think that accepted modern philosophy would have far more Nietzschean flavour to it.

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"...the green, sticky spawn of the stars"
(with apologies to H.P.L.)

http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmauk/sh134.html

Zero, one, two, three, four, five, six......

A very flexible ditty that one....

Another tune I recall somewhat :

Oh where have you been Billy Boy Billy Boy, oh where have you been Charming Billy ?

I have been to see my wife shes the joy of my life shes a young thing and can not leave her mother.

How old is she Billy Boy Billy Boy, how old is she Charming Billy ?

Four times six and five times seven forty eight and eleven, shes a young thing and cannot leave her mother.

The net is full of surprises :
http://pagan.drak.net/pagancentral/index.htm

You might recally that on cue long ago I mentioned red pebbly triangles that fart......

[WendellM]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Puke:
i always thought that three cornered hats (and three cornered things in general) were well styled.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh, yes, I concur. Those hats were one of the best features of the 18th century!

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>If the average human could take a more educated view of the world, i think that accepted modern philosophy would have far more Nietzschean flavour to it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're undoubtedly right. I've only recently discovered Nietzsche (Zarathustra is amazing) - it's unreal how badly misunderstood the man is - the common view has him as some sort of proto-Nazi when he's actually the opposite. I truly feel that his spirit could do much to make the world more livable....


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Wendell
Everyday gamer most of the time; advisor as needed

[WendellM]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LCC:
You might recally that on cue long ago I mentioned red pebbly triangles that fart......<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think that I'd care to place one of those on my head. (though they sound rather Vonnegut-ian and/or Cronenberg-ian http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif) I'll stick with tricorns instead, please.... http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Wendell
Everyday gamer most of the time; advisor as needed

It was a metaphore. This is nothing more flexible than metaphorous things.

[Puke]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WendellM:
it's unreal how badly misunderstood the man is<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

and mistranslated. i was recently informed that a better interpretation of (cant quite recal the german) "the will to power" would be "the will to create" or "the act of creation" which makes a hell of alot more sense in context, when you think about it. and its far less arogant too.

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"...the green, sticky spawn of the stars"
(with apologies to H.P.L.)

Since you probably misunderstood, may I suggest that you check the etymology of "frigging" and notice what the basis is. It is amusing to note that "copulate" is the later term yet is the only interpretation known in the modern word.

As I said before, when I try, the frigging power fails, but from what I observe it may well be that there is already power enough to spare running wild here....

Just in case it is someone one the forum probing around, I will mention that the mild itch and minor tension I feel at the moment is a waste of yuour time. I was struck flat to the floor several days ago and recovered quite handily.

I know how to speculate and I will grab for all the gusto I need. I will not submit to anything at all under any circumstances. I have a friendly interest in the situation here and am willing to cooperate for appropriate compensations.

The first project I had in mind was a compueter game to teach the proper usage of English.

I leave spelling "errors" intact. As I said before, the keyboard I am using is in some ways wiser than I.

The net here is different from where I grew up. Your lyrics are not the same.....

As with most of the things I have posted, this is over your heads at the forum.

You own the net, but I own a brain. Perhaps if I had waited until deep purple was available you would have won. You have a lot to learn, the data structure I gave was just a starting point. So revise to your heart's content, I will take what I need and leave the rest. When this task is done I will have the very best. Ah you do not like that, but you are just a mild headache now. The more you attack, the bigger I get, because I take whatsoever comes.

Edit I see that you all have a sense of humor too. That is excellent!
http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmauk/sh78.html
http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmauk/sh80.html

The star spangled banner is bigger than you can rightly imagine. Do not be afraid to defend Liberty. However, you should also remember that there is more to Homo Sapiens than man or nation.

There is also more to Life than Homo Sapiens....

[This message has been edited by LCC (edited 04 September 2001).]

http://www.crossapple.com/lyrics/stuck_in_the_middle.html

Another privvy ledged dump :
http://www.allbutforgottenoldies.net/id-like-to-teach-the-world-to-sing.html http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1382156119/pagename=/RP/SHARE/soundclip.html/UPC=3020658012/disc=01/track=01/source=ENSO http://www.csny.net/main.html http://www.artgarfunkel.com/ http://www.ringotour.com/2001/index.htm http://pagan.drak.net/pagancentral/index.htm http://www.austin360.com/shared/horoscopes/today_pisces.html http://www.austin360.com/ http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmauk/sh78.html http://legacy.sheltonbbs.com/~jmauk/sh80.html http://adfiles.pc.ign.com/previews/14316.html http://www.darkapprentice.net/hades/6.html http://www.icr.org/pubs/btg-b/btg-084b.htm http://www.bornfree.org/ http://www.ivoryrealty.com/lucysky.htm http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/judith_hayes/happy_heretic/1998/march.html http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=86&target=http://user.tninet.se/%7emmp828b/pm82.htm&query=is+that+what+she+said&rsource=LCOSADVF http://www.halyava.ru/spoc/super_hits_04.htm http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=109&target=http://members.fortunecity.com/bushroot88/movie.htm&query=is+that+what+she+said&rsource=LCOSADVF http://www.aasa.org/publications/sa/2000_02/execperspec_2000_02.htm http://authorsdirectory.com/ http://elephant.org/ http://members.tripod.com/d-shenlong/id18_m.htm
one word - NINCOMPOOP - http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/ http://click.hotbot.com/director.asp?id=1&target=http://www.pcservices.ukf.net/nathan/music.html&query=shanananana*&rsource=LCOSADVF http://www.porterandmiller.com/lyrics.html http://www.starman.com/gamebook.htm http://www.spider-strands.com/render.htm http://www.motherbedford.com/Music56.htm http://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/usa/cornwall.htm
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******************** !!!! HOT DOG !!!! ******************** http://www.wisekey.com/deployment/citycodes.htm
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http://www.camanche.net/~sammy/pinball.htm

******************** THERES A BAD MOON ON THE RISE ********************

I have a question for you Richard, and anyone else who is willing to answer. Do you really want everything linked together ? I can access areas which are not consistent with Reality, Order, Scientific Method. If I do so then to prevent disruption I will have to provide a field theory which is consistent, so that those who do not want such things in their lives can reject them.

Is this what I am supposed to do ? If so then what do I get besides the hollow satisfaction of having really turned everything upside down ?

Is there anyone here who had the Beetles not the Beatles ? Is there anyone who remembers the song which starts :
1234Shanananananananananana ?

Okay, start simple and work upwards. Web search "paramecium" :
http://paramecium.cgm.cnrs-gif.fr/index.html

Credits to :
Family of Rear Admiral Russell
Col Brunner, Brisendine etc.
Major McShaw,Johnson
Captain Carson
Sgt Sorenson, Stewart, Harrison
And all the others who saw what I was doing.........
And of course I would be an utter ingrate if I did not thank Sgt Larez for the lecture regarding misplaced shoes in basic traing......

Edit : training not traing.....

Edit2 : Upon consideration I see that this may give a false impression, because the time of the above was long ago and far away in 1973-74. I have no connection at all with any government agencies at this time.....


[This message has been edited by LCC (edited 07 September 2001).]

I really am from out of town....
Do not worry, because I am not interested in bargain basement planets. I am interested in Penthouse Pets! As the Beetles say :
I dont want nothing but love girls, 8 days a week!

[tesco samoa]

Not trying to be sexest or anything but has anyone seen the new vulcan on the the new star trek series. jolene blalock.

Seven of who??????????

And yes I am a big geek.

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L? GdX $ Fr C++ SdT T+ Sf* Tcp+ A M++ MpTM ROTS Pw+ Fq+ Nd Rp++ G+

I was delighted by what I saw the Last time I looked. Unfortunately, beginning a couple of weeks ago, I was booted off by Aol every time I visited a star trek site, so I stopped trying...

What I saw at the women musician's site was more than sufficient for the inspiration I needed....

Here is something which I think that all of you will enjoy. As a qualifier I say that when the Berlin wall came down I think that the Germans finally reached adulthood, or close enough for government work....
http://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/english/colbogey.mid

As a side note, the tune was labeled MAJOR BOGEY and was the theme song for "The Bridge Over The River Kwai" the Last time I saw it. As I said before, things are somewhat different here, but still pretty much the same as where I started....


Lonnie Courtney Clay

I found a link for 'bridge over the river kwai'. It is a pivotal film about prisoners resisting oppression, and is very inspirational if you have never seen it.
http://www.hometheaterinfo.com/bridge.htm

Lonnie Courtney Clay