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[Aapeli]

Ok cut it out. This thread is not about discussing who is really an honor-less dog. We can call each other dishonorable but only in role-play fashion, rather than in person. Of course all the word war thats been going on between you two (the last 17 posts has been by either Executor or MadFrancis) might not be written in serious fashion and out of seriousness, but I still felt like I should say something (stupid or not) in order to stop the endless row of these two posters.

[Executor]

I didn't start this and didn't make it personal, but I am more than happy to see this charade over.
Like I said what's done is done let's forget the whole damn thing and continue.

[MadFrancis]

Ok cut it out. This thread is not about discussing who is really an honor-less dog. We can call each other dishonorable but only in role-play fashion, rather than in person. Of course all the word war thats been going on between you two (the last 17 posts has been by either Executor or MadFrancis) might not be written in serious fashion and out of seriousness, but I still felt like I should say something (stupid or not) in order to stop the endless row of these two posters.

Maybe if the community would have stepped in sooner this wouldn't be happening. But instead everyoen was content to let Executor run around throwing verabl abuse about and threatening to ruin the game (by casting Armegeddon) because of the type of people he was playing with. I will ALWAYS defend myself if someone calls me out publicly. So maybe instead of getting tired of the argument, the community could have standards of civility that it tries to maintain for everyone's sake. If calling people names and threatening to ruin the game because you don't care for the people you are playing with is acceptable to this community maybe I shouldn't bother with Dom3.

I am new to this community, but so far my experiences have been fairly negative. I have been jumped all over for asking for a turn 1 restart to a game that had been started and renamed three or four times which caused me to miss the starting email. From people's responses here (ComfortZone thread) you would have thought I was asking for their first born child.

And this. Coming to check out the thread of the game I have been playing for about a month and a half and seeing someone calling the people he is at war with names (personally and not in RP style) and threatening to ruin the game because he didn't like the players he was playing with.

Those are my introduction to the Dom3 community. You guys sure are welcoming. I'm shocked this place isn't just crawling with even more people wanting to be a part of this community.

I am not angry, or upset. Just responding to the crap I've been served since I've tried to become a member of this community.

[Executor]

You are by far the most hardheaded and narrow sighted person I know.

Armagedon was an e.g. as I don't even have the capability to use it. And yet again you missed the point there.

To me it seem that you're starting rows in all the games you're in. Maybe the problem is not in other players but in you?

The only shocking thing here is your behavior, as you take everything personally and try to turn it around. This community comes out as nothing BUT welcoming it's just you that has a problem with everyone.

Once again I ask who did I verbaly abuse, threaten and such? If people here thins that I am abusing then and threatening them I will gladly step out of this game as I am tired of pointlessly arguing with you.

[Juffos]

In this game every single player is a honourless dog if the situation rises. It's a game for world domination, one wins and everyone else lose.

Now, both of you, calm down and have a beer :beer:

By the way, internets arguments.

[karnoza]

There were so many subs in this game that I'd like to ask for a complete list of players currently controlling nations in the game because I'm completely misled. :)

[Executor]

That is actually a really good idea since I don't have a clue who's who anymore.

[Slobby]

Sauromatia - WingedDog
Agartha - MadFrancis
Caelum - Zenzei
Atlantis - Juffos
Mictlan - Executor
Ryleh - Slobby
Vanheim - karnoza
Lanka - Reverend Zombie
C'tis - Aapeli

[Slobby]

Current turn due date extended by 24 hours as requested by WingedDog.

[Slobby]

If any of you guys need turn extensions for the holidays, lemme know.
Aapeli has requested that no turn be due the 24-26 in another game I'm admining, I will assume that will carry over to this game as well and therefore it shall be.

[Executor]

I would need the game extended from 31-2, I'll probably be able to make the turn, but just in case.

[Slobby]

Another little tid bit for those players that have forgetten and for the new players that probably don't know.

The victory condition as outlined in the opening thread is to hold 6 capitals for 3 full turns.

Now it doesn't look like the victory condition is recorded via VP, so I propose that once a player has captured their 6th capital, they save the .trn & .2h for each turn of their countdown turns so that there will be proof that you've met the victory requirement.

The terms are vague I suggest going this way,

Turn 1 - You've captured your 6th capital yay!
Turn 2 - You hold all 6
Turn 3 - You hold all 6
Turn 4 - You still have all 6. Congratulations you win!

I will also assume that your starting capital is included in the 6, therefore you only need to take 5. Also if at any point during the countdown you lose one of the 6 the countdown is turned back to 1 once you get your 6th again.

Once any player has met the condition and has their back ups ready to go, pm me and the game will be paused as the turns are checked.

[Executor]

Does that include provinces or just forts? Just to be sure...

[Slobby]

Does that include provinces or just forts? Just to be sure...

I'm unsure exactly what you're asking, maybe this will clairfy.

I'm sure you've probably noticed that not all the capital provinces are named after the race. As such the person checking the files will be informed of the province number/location and will then click on the province and must be able to click on the special sites to verify that it is indeed a capital location. Being able to pull up the site description will be the check that you do own it.

Also if one of the capitals had their fort razed, owning the province is still considered towards the 6 capitals needed. (I think this is what you were asking, is that why I can't find the capital of Arco ;))

[Slobby]

Well since everyone is taking off at different times, I think I'll follow Pasha's example and set the hosting to casual (manually postponing when turns are due). I would hope that we can get this turn and another turn in and done over the next week. I'll continue this way until after new years. Enjoy the holidays all!

[Slobby]

I trust everyone had a good holidays.

I'd like to get back into the swing of things, unfortunately Zenzei seems to have disappeared! So, I will postpone this turn one more 24 hour period so that it will host on Saturday 00:41 GMT. Once it hosts we'll be back on our usual 72hr period.

[MadFrancis]

Well, it looks like Agartha is done for .. but I can't tell since my alexander.tga seems to have dissapeared and I cannot find it on the forums (the map sip only contained the .map file). In any case, I think it's probably safe to say that Agarta could be safely turned to AI. They are done for. No troops, and even if they did have troops none of them would have a bless :P

[Slobby]

Well, it looks like Agartha is done for .. but I can't tell since my alexander.tga seems to have dissapeared and I cannot find it on the forums

So soon when in a 3v1? :shock: There is a link for the map on the first post of this thread.

[WingedDog]

2 MadFrancis
Yep, don't give up, I made my stand for you, now you're setting me up. You're not doomed at all, at least find yourself a sub, but do not go AI.

[MadFrancis]

Well, it looks like Agartha is done for .. but I can't tell since my alexander.tga seems to have dissapeared and I cannot find it on the forums

So soon when in a 3v1? :shock: There is a link for the map on the first post of this thread.

yeah. I downloaded that .rar and only got the .map piece of the map for some reason ... I'm not giving up ... the game is over for Agartha. Whoever designed this build thought it would be a good idea to not have ANY bless at all. On EA Agartha. No bless ....


No bless .....


at all ....

[MadFrancis]

2 MadFrancis
Yep, don't give up, I made my stand for you, now you're setting me up. You're not doomed at all, at least find yourself a sub, but do not go AI.

I am not going AI. I just can't get into my turn without hunting down where the rest of that map file went ...

EDIT: I got a friend to email me the .tga file and submitted my turn. No need to have someone else set me to AI.

[Executor]

I know there are many advantageous players in this game, but has anyone considered finding a sub for Cealum or is everyone content to let him stale out the game?

[Slobby]

I know there are many advantageous players in this game, but has anyone considered finding a sub for Cealum or is everyone content to let him stale out the game?

Rest assured if he stales this turn, which it looks like he will, I will find a sub.

[Slobby]

Sub found, all welcome slayers_ai the new ruler of Caelum

[Slobby]

Sauromatia - WingedDog
Agartha - MadFrancis
Caelum - slayers_ai
Atlantis - Juffos
Mictlan - Executor
Ryleh - Slobby
Vanheim - karnoza
Lanka - ai
C'tis - Aapeli

updated

[Executor]

I liked that pretender more while he was casting earth attack.
I guess that air was an investment, didn't see it before.

[Executor]

Interesting... you'd suppose that arrow fend would work against rain of stones but no.
That was a horrible loss.

[WingedDog]

I thought arrow fend counters rain of stones as well, and the result was a surprise for me too.

[Slobby]

Looks like WingedDog has gone on a little trip. He's asked for a game delay until Thursday, and it shall be so. :)

[Executor]

My congratulations to whoever casted seeking arrow at me. You managed to kill one mictlan priest with 25 gems worth arrows. Yes that is about 2 gold per gem ratio.

[Executor]

It's turn 68 now, isn't it about time to move the hosting interval a bit? The turns take quite a bit to do now.

[WingedDog]

Yes, totaly agree, I'm a little busy lately, so, if possible could there be interval increase?

[Slobby]

sure I'll make it 96h, do you guys want a 24h extension on this turn?

[Executor]

I could use it.

[WingedDog]

Yes, if possible, please make a delay.

[Slobby]

done

[Executor]

So R'lyeh has decided to join the attack on Mictlan.
This makes you the seventh nation I've waged war with so far.

[WingedDog]

It's raining toads, hallelujah! :)

[Executor]

Looks like I cut some major income with that spell! :)
And the toads shall rain from the sky!!!

Edit: Muahahahahaaa

[WingedDog]

Damn, there should be "Contact French Chief" spell in my gremoire!
Frog leg fricassee everyone! :)

[Slobby]

So R'lyeh has decided to join the attack on Mictlan.
This makes you the seventh nation I've waged war with so far.

Well seeing that by my count you have 4 caps and that the 3 on 1 is pretty much a 2 on 1 now I felt obliged to step into the fray. :)

[Executor]

Well what can I say your count is wrong, I have 3 capitals just as same as Sauromatia, and some other players, by I'm the one being teamed on the whole game.

[Slobby]

Just an fyi, WD has asked for a slight turn extension of 5 hours, which I have granted. I could also use a slight extension so I have extended the current turn by 8 hours total (although I doubt I'll be submitting my turn right on the button so it will probably host sooner than I've postponed it).

[Executor]

Setting up traps are we? Don't you think empowering everyone to air is a bit expensive?

[Slobby]

WD has asked for a 24h extension, it is done

[Slobby]

WD has requested a 48h extension,it has been granted.

[WingedDog]

I'd like to apologize to everybody for all the constant delays. I have problems with spare time recently.
And my eternal gratitude to our admin Slobby for granting me extentions.

[Slobby]

WD sent me a pm requesting a delay till Sunday, and that he will be looking for a sub for his position. The delay has been granted.

[WingedDog]

Correction: the only reason I want to find a sub is lack of free time this year, I can only submit my turns during the weekends. So I'd like to ask for opinion of the other players if it is OK for them to increase hosting time to 1 week.

[Executor]

1 week hosting interval sounds too long for me, i think people will lose interest in the game and forget waht the hell they were doing, but if everyone else agrees I won't be the one to object.

[Executor]

I think we should find someone to put C'tis to AI.

[Slobby]

aye

[Slobby]

Well Caelum has gone ai, and it looks like Mictlan has essentially done it, I vote for Mictlan as game winner seeing how there is no one else that could manage to achieve the goal before them.

[karnoza]

Another little tid bit for those players that have forgetten and for the new players that probably don't know.

The victory condition as outlined in the opening thread is to hold 6 capitals for 3 full turns.

Now it doesn't look like the victory condition is recorded via VP, so I propose that once a player has captured their 6th capital, they save the .trn & .2h for each turn of their countdown turns so that there will be proof that you've met the victory requirement.

The terms are vague I suggest going this way,

Turn 1 - You've captured your 6th capital yay!
Turn 2 - You hold all 6
Turn 3 - You hold all 6
Turn 4 - You still have all 6. Congratulations you win!

I will also assume that your starting capital is included in the 6, therefore you only need to take 5. Also if at any point during the countdown you lose one of the 6 the countdown is turned back to 1 once you get your 6th again.

Once any player has met the condition and has their back ups ready to go, pm me and the game will be paused as the turns are checked.

:?:

[Slobby]

:) Oh we can definately wait around till Mictlan gnabs the remaining capitals and holds them for 3 turns. Shouldn't be more than 6 turns total from now...

[karnoza]

... 6 turns total from now...

OK. I wish to run up to the finish. GO-GO! :D

[Slobby]

OK. I wish to run up to the finish. GO-GO! :D


:up::)

[Executor]

It's about time we end this game.
I'm in control of all the capitals I need to win, this is the second turn I hold them. I have multiple domes, SC's and extremly large armies in every one of them and there's no way in hell I can lose any of them.
So we can either end it right here or wait for everyone to send in those two last turns, up to you guys.

[karnoza]

As far as I can see, you are not the only winner. We had simultaneous increase in "Forts" graph on turn 79. It was when I captured capitals of Abysia and Caelum. So, unless you may prove you captured your capitals earlier than turn 79 or someone can take the capitals I own, we both are the winners. :rolleyes:

[Executor]

Damn you actually have 6 capitals? Does the fact I have 7 capitals change anything?

[ano]

I doubt it because the victory condition was to capture exactly 6. Sorry for intrusion but I've been watching this game a bit since karnoza started subbing for underdog Vanheim. Actually he was going to win from the very first turn (I think it was turn 58 or something like that). Position was terrific but he nearly managed to:).

[Slobby]

Hohoho, here be the choices.

1. Mutually agree to share godhood.

2. Deathmatch.

For Karnoza to win he is to take 2 of Executors captured capitals (since Executor claims to have seven then taking 2 would bring him down to 5).

For Executor to win he is to take 1 of Karnoza's capitals, bringing him down to 5.

Under the assumption that the original time constraint is met before Karnoza/Executor meet the above req's there will be no 'waiting' period once the req's are accomplished. Ie. If Executor takes one of Karnoza's caps on turn X then he wins on turn X. Likewise for Karnoza, ie. the turn Karnoza takes the second capital away from Executor is the turn that he wins.

[ano]

The game will last very long in the second case, believe me. It is more probable that they will capture other capitals than take any from each other. Also, it is a bit unfair, IMO, to add any conditions when they were not preset.

[ano]

Karnoza sent me a message telling that he is seriously sick and that he's been put to the hospital till the weekend. Obviously, he won't be able to play these days if you decide to continue. AFAIK, he never delayed this game so (if you decide to continue), taking on account the late stage of the game, it would be nice if the game was stopped until Monday. If you decide to stop, I may send anyone the save of turn 79 which is required to verify his 6 capitals.

[Executor]

Well at the very least it's a joint victory, but however I still have a chance to win(solo), so I'll wait for him.

[ano]

Well then, if you wish to continue, he'll post here once he returns from the hospital. I hope there's nothing serious there.

[Slobby]

Yes there is still a chance for Executor to win, as the 3 turns hasn't been fulfilled...strike fast

I will definately postpone the game till monday, I too hope nothing serious has occured...

[karnoza]

Hello, everyone. I have returned. Thanks a lot for waiting.
I'd like to remind you that I've been subbing for previous Vanheim controllers from turn 58. It was not me who suggested the victory condition and I wouldn't want to dicuss if it was correct or fair but it was given and I eagerly tried to fulfil it. Now I may say that I succeeded. Noone will be able to take any of my capitals in 2 turns without breaking a NAP and even if someone decides to break it I hardly imagine how he may take my castles. I have plenty of SC's, powerful spellcasters and some other stuff to defend them - you may check it, of course. But I have absoultely no interest in continuing this game to find out who is an "absolute" winner.
On turn 58 Vanheim was, without exaggeration, an underdog. I did a good spurt but it doesn't make sense indeed to do something again and again when rules are being constantly changed. And also, it is a bit strange to expect that the runners who reached finish at the same moment will start boxing to find out who is the winner. ;)
Enough said. You may declare a draw or a win for Executor - probably he deserved it. For me this game will be over in 2 turns.

[Slobby]

I personally would love the runners who reach the finish to start boxing to find out who the winner is! Unfortunately I didn't create the game, and am just admining it. If both you and executor fulfill the victory conditions at the same time then the game will end in a draw.

[Executor]

Well, shall we see who the winner is? Looks like all we're waiting is Slobbys turn to get in to get this game finished.

[Slobby]

turn is in, game on

[Executor]

OK, so there's a possibility to turn this into a solo victory.
This is the last turn people, Arco fort is breached and destiny awaits.

[Executor]

...

[Executor]

You've Got To Be Kidding Me!!!!!!
The Damn Game Crashed!!!

[karnoza]

Stale Turn :( Well, let's wait for Slobby and make a rehost (hopefully).

[Executor]

Just my luck...

I have a feeling this has got something to do with that new patch.

[karnoza]

Executor: Btw, reagrding your post, if I knew that our NAP could be broken, before, you would have nearly no chance to break the walls. ;)

[Executor]

Well... I think under these circumstances the NAP is OK to be broken, or disregarded. I've been in some similar situations and people agree.
And I picked the fort with the least defence in it.

[karnoza]

No problem with this broken NAP. I justed wanted you to understand that if I didn't publicly say about controlling 6 capitals you wouldn't even think of attacking now and the game would be over this turn. :) But again, no problem.

[Executor]

Yeah, you right about that. But for some reason I was deluded that you had to inform when you capture the 6 capitals, which Slobby corrected me.

[Executor]

Which capitals do you have anyway?
I know about Arco, Cealum, Abysia and your own.

But I never found out where C'tis, T'N'N, Fomoria and Lanka started.

[ano]

Lanka is 232, Fomoria is 188. Both controlled by Vanheim

[Executor]

Man, Fomoria had a terrible starting position.
Hmm strange, I thought Cealum took Lankas capital, never realized those two provinces down there were connected.

I really hated this map by the way, I started two games on it at the same time and handed over one of them even doe I had a great position just because of the damn map, and I was gonna hand over this game also, but than Agartha (and some other nations) attacked me so I decided to stick around for a while, never expected to run up to the finish considering my position in this game at that time.

[ano]

Yep, Fomorian position was very bad. Not terrific because they have sailing though.
That's why I'll probably never again play without predefined starting locations. This game brings a lot of randomness in many aspects and I don't like to add any more... I don't like games where starting position decides world's fates:).
However, this map is quite good and I really like it. It needs a few balancing modifications, of course, but it is good.

[Slobby]

sooo just to be clear do you guys want me to roll it back?

[Executor]

Let's rollback and rehost it first and if it doesn't work, we'll rollback again and redo our turns.

[karnoza]

Let's rollback and rehost it first and if it doesn't work, we'll rollback again and redo our turns.

+1 :)

[Slobby]

no error this time

[ano]

Any results:)?

[Executor]

YES! Executor wins... but so does Karnoza.

Still about to watch the battle.

Really means a lot when you have the first turn.

Interesting, according to score graphs, this would be the first turn when I actually lost troops since the beginning of the game

[ano]

I guess it was an epic battle...

[Executor]

Well at least this game is finally over, we started in July 2008.

So how do we call this game? Shared victory, draw game?

[karnoza]

Thanks for the interesting game and special thanks to Executor for a wonderful final battle.
Frankly speaking, I couldn't expect your victory being so near. You are a good player. I'll remember you and will always play against you in the way you deserve it. ;)

[Executor]

Same here, well do the honor of posting this up in the HoF if you like.

Shame doe, was looking forward to another victory with Mictlan, 1.5 for now.

[Slobby]

Well there is still the 'check', unless of course you guys trust each other and feel no check is necessary. GJ to both of you. And I too am glad this game has finally come to an end!

[Executor]

The last 3 turns, I think...
Feel free to look around.

[karnoza]

5 last turns

[Slobby]

sorry havent had a chance to look at the files, does it all look good?

[Executor]

Yeah, all is good. Vanheim was pretty strong actually.
Only thing left is for you to declare the game over.

[Calahan]

Hi Everyone

Just want to say sorry to all the players here for suddenly dropping out last October. This game had already suffered enough from problems and drop-outs before I went AWOL (plus the added problems of me being the admin at the time). All totally out of my control though. I had to go to Greece for a week due to work, but it all went pear shaped on the first day when the car I was in got hit by a truck. This began a nightmare three months in a Greek hospital, and then a dis-orientating time upon returning home trying to get things back to normal. Everything has worked out ok in the end, but it certainly did a bang-up job of buggering my life up for six months.

So like I said, sorry for disappearing like I did, and causing the inevitable problems to the stuttering flow this game had. But I'd like to thank whoever took over as admin from me ('Slobby' was it? haven't had chance to go through the thread yet to confirm it), and of course a "Thank You" to not only all the original players in this game, but also an extra thanks to all those who subbed into it during its course (wonder if this game set a record for subs?). Subs can be invaluable at keeping games interesting and balanced, and should always be well thanked for their services :up:

Finally, can I offer my congratulations to 'Executor' and 'karnoza' on their joint victory. Very well done to the both of you. 'Executor' for being one of the original players who managed to make it through to the end, and win despite several stales that I know of. And 'karnoza' for subbing into not the greatest position ever, but managing to turn it around to such an extent that they shared the spoils in end. Hats off to both of those achievements :)

Look forward to playing in future games with you all, and happy gaming until the next time.