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[Torin]

postponed till monday. I will postpone more if i see grudgebirnger cant make it.
I think we need to get tirnanorg AI also. I wish people didnt make this kind of things. Its annoyig.

[Revolution]

I think we need to get tirnanorg AI also. I wish people didnt make this kind of things. Its annoyig.

You should be able to set tir AI through the admin options...but you're right, it should definitely be done.

[GrudgeBringer]

There was a reminder posted in the email that DarkHeavens is going to host in 8hrs. Steve saw the post by Torin that it would be delayed until Monday. I just talked to Steve and there is no possible way for him to get back before Monday night. He will work diligently when he returns, but he DOES need the extention until at least Tuesday - at a minimum.

[BigDisAwesome]

Btw, Steve is GrudgeBringer. Someone else made the last post for him, as he is out of town with no computer access. So he will need that extension.

[Revolution]

I'm working off the assumption that llamaserver still has my old 2h file and will use that even though it will say I'm going to stale. On the off chance that Torin does not see this and the game hosts a bit early, it should still be ok for grudgebringer for this turn since his old 2H file should be with the llamaserver.

Unless he wanted to change his turn...

[Torin]

Anyways its a mass stale as the server failed again

[GrudgeBringer]

I am back...Thanks to ALL of you for the extension!!!:D

(sorry Aoe)

I see that I don't need to do turn 57 all over agian...but what if you had a battle with someone that DID have to redo the turn.
Doesn't that kind of put you at a disadvantage?

Tir going AI, he was my ally when he decided that summer had commitments he could not get out of. I was in this alliance when hostilities started with Fomoria and now I will have a 2 front war withourt warning.

I will have Tir put out of the way in just a couple of turns if you can wait on that.:up:

[Revolution]

Anyways its a mass stale as the server failed again

I think we should just run with it this time...everyone staled so most people are no worse off or only slightly worse off than before, but since we allready tried to redo the turn once and it did not work we might as well just continue on and hope that a fresh new turn actually hosts for us.

[BigDisAwesome]

Well damn. I sure hope the next turn works. Everyone make sure everything is updated.

[BigDisAwesome]

Sweet. I love it when things don't work.
Does everyone have the newest patch installed? (version 3.23b)

If so we'll have to ask for help on the main forum or from llamabeast.

[GrudgeBringer]

When did Patch 3.23b come out? I never saw anything about a new patch.

If its the one we started with, then in order to get to turn 57 we had to all have it.

I for 1 have not D/l a new patch since we started this game.:confused:

[BigDisAwesome]

I'm not sure when it came out. But it looks like we found our problem! :D

Here's what needs done.
Download the patch and start the last turn we did(turn 58) over from scratch, GrudgeBringer.
Torin can rollback to the last turn.
Then you submit your new turn.
After that he can force host it since it has everyone else's turns on file still.

So try to get that turn done so we can get this game rolling again. It's been over a week now since we've made any progress!

[GrudgeBringer]

i just checked and I DO have 3.23b so we ALL must have had it to get this far ...UNLESS someone had to reload and forgot to patch it.

[GrudgeBringer]

Are you saying we ALL need to reload the 3.23b patch and then do turn 58 over or turn 57 over?

If you can put a link to the patch so everyone has access to the right one.

I am playing in Omaha this weekend and I want to get this dang turn done so I won't have to have an extension as I will be back Sat night and agian Sunday....

If we don't get this going we are going to lose a couple of players and that would be a shame as everyone left has a shot at it.

[BigDisAwesome]

Open up Dominions 3. In the bottom left corner, it will have what version you are using.
If it doesn't say version 3.23b, you need the new version.
You can download the patch here.
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/DOM3/DOM3_page.html

If it turns out someone is submitting turns that isn't using the most updated patch, then that's the reason it hasn't been working.

I figure it's easier to just do turn 58 over instead of rolling back twice. BUT, the only people that would need to redo their turn is anyone that wasn't using version 3.23b before now. Everyone else is fine.

[GrudgeBringer]

Good job...I tend to think someone had to reload lately and just didn't think to D/L 3.23b.

and Dis is correct just pull up the game and on the bottom left will tell you your version.

Now I am a little confused...since I have 3.23b can I do 59 and turn it in so I can leave town?

I will need to know soon as I am leaing at 5 PM Friday evening.:up:

[GrudgeBringer]

Nevermind, I loaded turn 59 and we staled.

I can't take another Stale as I keep losing ground.

I didn't realize on a stale that recruited troops will go ahead and join the Fortress gaurd.

Let me know......:doh:

[AreaOfEffect]

I'm good.

[Torin]

ill postpone the hosting till we know whats going on. Ill ask llama

[Revolution]

ill postpone the hosting till we know whats going on. Ill ask llama

llama might be able to find out what's making our game crash through process of elimination. Hopefully we can figure it out

[BigDisAwesome]

Any word yet? I don't want everyone to lose interest with all this down time.

[Torin]

no, not a word. I hope this gets fixed soon.

[GrudgeBringer]

Soooooooo,

What are we doing at this juncture?

I have not tried to complete a turn and as far as I know we have not tracked down the person that doesnot have the correct patch.

We have a good game going and I fear its going to go to waste if we don't get it rolling soon.

Torin....We have not heard from Llama or anyone that has any kind of answer?:confused:

[Tyrant]

Yea, this is starting to look pretty grim. Anyone have a bright idea? I seriously doubt it's a patch version issue at this point. Can the admin look at the game log and see if it points at one nation or another?

[BigDisAwesome]

I'm starting to get worried. This is one of the extremely few games where I made it to the end game in the 2+ years I've been playing this game. We can't let it die!

[GrudgeBringer]

I'm like Bigdisawesome,

I have reached the end game 3 times in a year and the game more or less petered out, or like in Blitzreig (that Executor won) he was so far ahead it was futile and I settled for second.

I am NOT in the lead by ANY means, but I am set up with some stuff that makes every turn interesting and every player left in the game could all of a sudden break out on top.

I have learned ALOT in this game and want to thank all of you in case it breaks down.

I just have ONE QUESTION.....Tyrant, what did you mean when the game stalled the first time when uou said my attack by the Horror Harmonica was comical?:p

I didn't get to see the battle and still am not sure the best way to use it so its important to me.:confused:

[Tyrant]

I think the HH is pretty funny in general and i'm not really sure there is a good way to use it, it's kind of a novelty item. What happened was that a bunch of horrors (3?) popped up and ate your barbarian chief and one of his buddies, the other two ran for it, and then the horrors ate my pd.

This is an extra crappy time for the game to glitch to be sure. Sauro didn't fight much, or well, so i spent alot of time planning for battles that didn't happen. (When he finally did unleash his impressive horde he went AI the same turn, so he didn't even ever see the battle.) Now that i'm finally gunna have a good fight i end up planning the same battle three times to no purpose 'cause the game crashed. Very irritating indeed.

[GrudgeBringer]

Well, from what I understood the HH, if put on an indie commander with boots of Quickness will spawn 6 Horrors in 3 turns and then he retreats and lets the horrors do thier work.

But you need a Mystic to cast horror mark a couple of times (LOL, and it is supposed to be on the enemy) and retreat.

I have seen it used in other games and completely destroy a medium sized army, so I thought I would try it....must admit, I havn't had much luck with it.

Seems the boots don't let the commander cast 2 times a turn and without 6 or 8 Horrors its pretty worthless.:(

[Torin]

Posted a message in the MP section.
Admins log does not say anything related to the errors.

[GrudgeBringer]

OK, and exactly does that mean in relation to our situation?:confused:

[Torin]

errors=what we are having right now...

[GrudgeBringer]

OK, just wanted to make sure it was still the smae

[llamabeast]

I owe you guys an apology for not looking into this sooner. I have been thwarted by the fact that (a) I am currently essentially always in the library (I check the forum in breaks but that's not really the same), and (b) I have no idea what to do.

I will have a quick play though.

[llamabeast]

Okay, no time tonight, but maybe it will be fixable. I found the battle where it crashed, so I guess I could just change someone's orders so the battle didn't happen.

[GrudgeBringer]

i have an idea....

Just make my opponent surrender, that should fix some of the battles!!!:)

Thanks llama:up:

[BigDisAwesome]

That's awesome llama. Thanks so much for the help.

How would a battle make it crash? And who was the battle between?

Is it okay with everyone if we just use this last turn we all submitted, or redo it if we have to? I don't even wanna try to go back 2-3 turns and remember what was happening.

That's the end of my random question post.
Or is it?

[GrudgeBringer]

I agree...

Trying to go back a couple of turns is now beyond my strategic memory.

If we can get it up and going from the last turn I am in...if not, I will have to give it some thought.

[Torin]

Starting now its ok to me

[GrudgeBringer]

What exactly does that mean Torin?

We are starting NOW?

And if we are from where. I think I need a little more information before I wade back into a 3 to 5 hour turn to discover that I did the wrong turn.

[GrudgeBringer]

I just got a message that DarkHeavens is Hosting in about 2 hours....

I must say I am not very pleased with the way this has been handled,

I know llama did all he could and maybe got it fixed but I asked last night what you meant Torin by your short Blurb.

I know you don't check the forum often but in this case I have NO IDEA what turn is to be done and even IF it is fixed.

I am not going to do this turn as I have no idea if its turn 58 or turn 59.

We can either just set it back when it hosts (as I have NO TIME to get it in anyway now), Or I am just going to set it AI as I have grown weary of trying to keep up with all this.

I am not mad at anyone and I am sorry if it unbalances the game, but I refuse to try and get turns in when there is no information, and no response when I try and be proactive .

I checked the Forumn at 5 AM CST USA time and there was no response to my question.

I get home at 1 PM CST and find out I have about 2 hours to complete a 4 hour turn and don't even know which turn it is. Arrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BigDisAwesome]

So, why did it just host? Were we supposed to submit turns? I sure didn't put one in. We need an update on what is going on.

[Revolution]

I just got a message that DarkHeavens is Hosting in about 2 hours....

I must say I am not very pleased with the way this has been handled,

I know llama did all he could and maybe got it fixed but I asked last night what you meant Torin by your short Blurb.

I know you don't check the forum often but in this case I have NO IDEA what turn is to be done and even IF it is fixed.

I am not going to do this turn as I have no idea if its turn 58 or turn 59.

We can either just set it back when it hosts (as I have NO TIME to get it in anyway now), Or I am just going to set it AI as I have grown weary of trying to keep up with all this.

I am not mad at anyone and I am sorry if it unbalances the game, but I refuse to try and get turns in when there is no information, and no response when I try and be proactive .

I checked the Forumn at 5 AM CST USA time and there was no response to my question.

I get home at 1 PM CST and find out I have about 2 hours to complete a 4 hour turn and don't even know which turn it is. Arrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Going by the fact that everyone staled this last turn (with the exception of myself...I happened to wake up an hour before hosting and got a quickly put together turn in) I'd say that Torin probably had no idea it was going to host either. He was probably waiting for llamabeast to say if he had fixed the problem/discovered what was making our game not work. Either way, with essentially 3 stale turns in a row for everyone I'm not sure how salvageable this game is...it's unfortunate because it was a pretty cool game and was heading into the endgame without a clear cut leader in power. (well maybe ulm but it really seemed like it was anyones game)

[llamabeast]

When I fix it I will go back in time and try to avoid the first crash. So there is no need to take any notice of any hosting going on now.

It's just very hard to find time... I have to send a chapter off this evening, I'm VERY tired and I am going away for a few days first thing in the morning. I'll see what I can do though...

Edit: Apologies for silly post! I don't mind trying to fix it at all, though it is tricky to find the time since I am fairly rarely both awake and at home right now.

[GrudgeBringer]

I agree with Revolution. The Dynamics of this game along with the ever shifting alliances made this one game that was heading for a BRAWL.

It was balanced on a pinhead with the various nations just waiting to see the outcome of a couple of wars and then join in and gobble up a third party.

Its like a Chess game that is very exciting and you are already planning your fith move and you have to leave for 2 weeks. When you get back the pieces are still in the same place, but the board loks somehow different and you have to try and reconstuct what you where planning along with the mydriad of countermoves that are/where available.

I'm sorry, but MY mind works in 'layers' and if you remove me from those layers I won't be able to see them agian even with notes.

Llama has twice said he is VERY busy and with all the man does for this site I think we should respect that.

Good game to all of us...NO, Excellent game to all of us that where still left,

We tried and where patiant but the circumstances are now that it is a flawed victory.

If you want to name a victor, go ahead as I will abstain.

You all know mw and I rarly if ever go AI or quit a game, but this time with Llama so busy I think we do ourselves, this site and llama an injustice if we try and continue on. So I am formally retiring from the game.

Bigdisawesome, I am sorry as you where the clear leader at the time and played very well, but this game was far from over and with the players left it (not including myself since Tyrant laughed at my Horror harmonica attack (sigh))was not a given win Revolution was going to wade in and on which side.

Thanks for all the things I learned and the the questions answered.

See ya all in the next one!!!!!!!!!!!

Grudge

[Revolution]

I agree with Revolution. The Dynamics of this game along with the ever shifting alliances made this one game that was heading for a BRAWL.

It was balanced on a pinhead with the various nations just waiting to see the outcome of a couple of wars and then join in and gobble up a third party.

Its like a Chess game that is very exciting and you are already planning your fith move and you have to leave for 2 weeks. When you get back the pieces are still in the same place, but the board loks somehow different and you have to try and reconstuct what you where planning along with the mydriad of countermoves that are/where available.

I'm sorry, but MY mind works in 'layers' and if you remove me from those layers I won't be able to see them agian even with notes.

Llama has twice said he is VERY busy and with all the man does for this site I think we should respect that.

Good game to all of us...NO, Excellent game to all of us that where still left,

We tried and where patiant but the circumstances are now that it is a flawed victory.

If you want to name a victor, go ahead as I will abstain.

You all know mw and I rarly if ever go AI or quit a game, but this time with Llama so busy I think we do ourselves, this site and llama an injustice if we try and continue on. So I am formally retiring from the game.

Bigdisawesome, I am sorry as you where the clear leader at the time and played very well, but this game was far from over and with the players left it (not including myself since Tyrant laughed at my Horror harmonica attack (sigh))was not a given win Revolution was going to wade in and on which side.

Thanks for all the things I learned and the the questions answered.

See ya all in the next one!!!!!!!!!!!

Grudge

Lets just wait and see what llama can do with this before we call it over. (though I agree, there is no sense in you burning yourself out trying to help us llama if you have not got the time, your personal stuff is more important than our game.)

[llamabeast]

Yeah, sorry, that was a bit of childish post by me there, I was a bit knackered when I got home. Busy times, writing up my PhD thesis.

So basically, I'm fairly sure I can fix it. It's the battle between Fomoria and Ulm at Fomoria's capital that's causing the crash. It seems to have a random chance of causing a crash. I say that because one time when I hosted it, it didn't crash. Unfortunately I thought it was because of something I'd done (it wasn't) so I deleted that copy of the game off my home computer and tried to replicate the fix on the server, which failed.

So anyway, I think it's just a matter of me re-running it until it doesn't crash, but the trouble is it takes 15 minutes each time so it might just take a while - unfortunately since I have to go to bed it will probably be the middle of next week now. Sorry to mess you all about so much with this game! Poor time management by me.

[BigDisAwesome]

You should have just given up Tyrant! You're the reason the game is crashing!

hehehe.

[Tyrant]

It's you not me! I think you found a previously unknown limit to the number of BFEs you can cast in one battle! My battle plan is simple and straightforward.

[Torin]

does anybody else get the message: 2h for unknown game?

[llamabeast]

Yeah, don't worry, I took the game off the list while I'm fixing it (should be sorted in the next day or few).

[llamabeast]

Fixy fixy!

[GrudgeBringer]

Well Gentlemen...

There are 4 that are out pretty far in front (I am the smallest of course (sigh)).

Its hard to really remember what I was going to do...

What say you guys, are we going to try and continue?:confused:

[AreaOfEffect]

I'll submit turns if that is what you're wondering.

[GrudgeBringer]

No, I wasn't concerned about you or anyone else bolting on the game. All the folks left are ones that will usually play the game thru and make it as tough on the big nations as theu can.

I was asking if we wanted to continue as a whole.

I looked thru my turn last night and after 2 1/2 hours I still wasn't sure I remember what I was trying to accomplish when we broke down or where the heck everyone was (my troops).

I just wanted a general concensus of the players that are left whether we want to try and reconstruct the game or not.:up:

(sorry if this style of writing bothers you, its just easier for me)

[BigDisAwesome]

I've only had time to skim over my turn real quick, but it doesn't matter to me. It's gonna take a long time to do this next turn. Gotta remember what the hell I was thinking.

If we do continue, can we agree to postpone the hosting until Monday so we can have all weekend to work on it?

[Revolution]

I am happy to continue

[Tyrant]

The battle resolved, but the replay still crashes a few turns in, so i can't see what really happened. GB, care to tell me how many Gargoyles survived?

Tir' na Nog really needs to be set AI, they've been completely uncontrolled for a long time, maybe 10 turns. To late to get a sub i think, but i just noticed they were gone.

I also vote to postpone the turn to monday.

[Tyrant]

Oh yea-- Thanks Llama! I've said it before and i'll say it again - You Da Man!

[GrudgeBringer]

What battle are you talking about Tyrant?

I had no battle other than the Horror Harmonica all over agian.

Tir is about to be cut to 4 provinces.

As he was my ally agianst Mictlan and I had no defense set agianst him setting him to AI without a few turn warning at this point of the game isn't good.

Give it a few turns as I am taking him down asap.

I ask agian Tyrant what battle?

[BigDisAwesome]

I just saw the email that this thing is hosting in about 6 hours. There is no way I'm gonna be able to get to my turn before then. Can we please get it extended to Monday like we talked about?

[GrudgeBringer]

OK, what now....

I saw that there where 2 that staled. I also saw that a NEW global has been put up over riding another (which happens to be mine) by one of the unfortunate people that staled.

I talked to the powers that be and the general concensus is that NOTHING that is qued in any way, shape, or form will work if you stale (unless it is in the Monthly que).

You will receive your money gems ect, but you can't forge, summon, or cast ritual spells.

The Amount of gems that would have had to be used to override that particular Global would of had to be MASSIVE.

Now don't get me wrong guys...I am not accusing anyone of any skullduggery (lOL, it in fact came up on my screen that I got some money so I must have cheated).

What I am saying is that Tyrant asked me about a battle with Gargoyles that never happened on my screen and all of a sudden his massive army disappered and I am sieging his fortress.

I think this game is doomed my friends and honestly I am somewhat lost as to what I was planning and with these other issues AND the fact that Tir probably should be set on AI (even though I am about to take all but his capitol in the next couple of turns).

This would provide a distraction with the currant war I am in as well as not having a defense on that side as TIR was my ally.

This has Been a GREAT game and was headed for a GREAT finish (though my money was on Revolution as he set back and rode beneath the radar while the rest of us fought, Nice job REV:up:)

Even though this has been a great game I have lost trust that we don't have a corrupt File or something.

And I suppose I don't have the patiance to postpone the game agian.

Would everyone please have thier say.

[GrudgeBringer]

It seems Revolution put his global up agian and he dID NOT stale...lOL, it STILL took a massive bunch of gems tho...

However the rest of the stuff is still unexplained.

[Revolution]

It seems Revolution put his global up agian and he dID NOT stale...lOL, it STILL took a massive bunch of gems tho...




Yes, yes it did :D At this point in the game I'm not messing around with the chance of wasting a bunch of gems on a global that does not go up.

[BigDisAwesome]

So I still won't have access to my computer until later today, but it's good to know that no one paid any attention to this post and I staled.

I'm done with this crap. If you wanna be the admin in future games, you gotta pay attention to the thread Torin. Good luck everyone else.

[Tyrant]

Argh-

I staled. Torin buddy, you really have to check the forum daily if you are going to admin. I appreciate that you stepped up to the plate, but you have struck out, can you pretty please pass off admin duties to someone more active if we decide to continue?

This is a very interesting game, i was having fun, and i'd hate to see it vanish. BDA's offensive is a thing of beauty and it would be a real shame to see it die in bed, it deserves a much nobler death.

Also, if i understand correctly, Saint Llama just spent a week running and rerunning the turn over and over to recover the game so we'd be able to continue. I'm pretty sure he has better things to do with his free time than pointlessly servicing our gaming needs, and he'd be well within his rights to Horror Mark every last one of us if we now wander off.

GB- the gargoyle battle was between me and BDA at my capitol, sorry, i made a mistake in my post. That battle was a big gnarly affair with 75 casters, 800 troops and novella length battle plans, it's what caused the crash, and my replay of the battle is upga****ed even though the turn went through. That's why i was asking,and it's not evidence of more glorks, it's part of the same glork. Sorry to cause more confusion.

I vote to roll back the last turn, change admins, give GB one more turn of empty Tir, and finish the game. Since BDA also staled i might be ok without a rollback if Arco did not hit me too hard ( i havn't looked at the new turn).

[GrudgeBringer]

Look at the new turn....it IS somewhat strange. If we roll it back there is also the chance that Rev's Global will hit someone else besides me so I look to bemifit from it.

Tir is nOT going to give me an advantage ..I already own )or will in 2 turns all but 1 fortress and most of his magic sites. I just need some time to fight a little along my Northern border and still take him out.

I agree that Llama did a WONDERFUL job fixing our game and if I was him I would be PO'd to the max if we quit.

Honestly, its MY note taking (I am traveling playing ball so much this summer)and fragile memory that has me up and yelling. At Myself more than anyone else.

If we ALL want to continue I will let you guys tear me apart and I can honestly say I was a PRETENDER (ar ar ar ) to the throne.

[GrudgeBringer]

ARE WE ROLLING THIS DANG THING BACK TORIN!!!!!

I am a semi patiant person and have been accused of even being somewhat reasonable at times.

However, I am neither a Patiant nor reasonable person when I am left in the dark.

Is BDA going to continue, are we forging ahead or rolling it back, I don't have the time, effort, or desire to do this turn for nothing.

This has been the most pleasurable game I have ever played (up till now).

But I would like to have us make a concensus of what we are/want to do.

I don't think there are too many players that are left that we can continue without as far as a MP game goes.

I would like to play this out as SP if we decide to bag it and everyone here has my respect and friendship as you are all honorable opponents.

Now lets put our heads together and decide what we want to do PLEASE...:up:

[Revolution]

I'm all for continuing but if one of the major players's has had enough then I'm ok with calling it a draw. So...probably up to how serious BDA is about quitting.

[llamabeast]

I can give someone else the admin password and roll the game back if you like. Any volunteers?

[GrudgeBringer]

Thanks Llama, as usual your like the Calvery riding over the hill to come to the rescue.

BTW, I personally forgot to tell you THANK YOU for taking time out of your VERY busy schedule to fix the technical problems we had in this game.

I think that we have had a slight problem all along as we have had to track down our Admin time after time to get an extension either by e-mailing him personally, or yelling loud enough and saying they would quit if there wasn't a extension ect.

I personally have never had any dealings before with Torin and I am not sure he understood what came with the job.

Right now I think the problem is DO we want to continue on as everyone has had so much time in between turns and we feel that there is no structire to the game when it takes sooooo long to do our turns.

I appreciate your offer and I am sure Revolution, or perhaps Tyrant may just take you up on it.

Thanks agian 'Oh Guru of the Dom3 world!!!!:up:

[llamabeast]

:) I think perhaps you just need to wait a bit more for your fellow players to get round to posting GB. ;)

[BigDisAwesome]

I'm all for rolling it back if you guys don't mind. Only I've got another problem. My chipset fan on my motherboard went out. So I can only use my computer for a short amount of time before the temp starts getting a little higher than I like. I've got one ordered, and it should be here in a couple days hopefully. Until then I'm stuck with 30 minutes to an hour segments. Which makes it real hard to concentrate on my turn.

You guys make the call. If you wanna continue and don't mind waiting for me to get that last turn in, then I'll play on.
If not that's ok too.

I'll check this thread later tonight.

[Revolution]

Well lets roll it back to the previous turn (soon to be 2 turns ago since the game hosts in an hour) and let ulm and fomoria have a chance to get their last turns in.

[Torin]

Roll back?

[Revolution]

Roll back?

doooo et.

[BigDisAwesome]

Fair warning, it's gonna take me a day or two to finish that turn up.

[GrudgeBringer]

OK, now I am confused to what we are doing.

Are we rolling back the turn to turn 58 or are we just going to continue with turn 59 and let the two stale, and give BDA as much time as he needs.

SOMEONE needs to take control (not me as I am not in town enough and then I can't B***h about stuff).

I just threw that last turn together to see if something would work as we had an hour till hosting.

If we are seriously going to do this lets put it back to turn 58 and do this.....please:up:

[GrudgeBringer]

I 'm on my way out to play ball and don't have time to really mess with this tonight....

However, I just received a message that we rolled the turn back to 58 and ALSO got a new turn for 59. I'm sure there is a good explanation for this but right now its beyond me.

Who has taken over as ADMIN? Why don't a couple of folks make a plan and state what we are doing (or are going to try and do)so that there is not always confusion over these 2 Dang turns!!!

Honestly guys, I have been either doing the same turn (like the rest of you), or asking about it for almost 3 weeks.

I am thinking of going AI as I have honestly got all my turns muddled together and I just really don't have the desire to sort it all out. OR perhaps do the same thing agian awhich my opponent has prepared for.

I am off to play in this stupid 105 heat index and will check the forum when I get back and cooled off.

If we don't have a concensus, I will make my decision then and stand by it.

Regardless, thanks for a great game and good luck to all of you!!:up:

[Torin]

i have no idea what happened. hosting interval is 48 hours and hosted 2 times together. Im rolling back again. lets hope it works good this time.
I still dont know whats happening and why are we rolling back in the first place.

[Revolution]

i have no idea what happened. hosting interval is 48 hours and hosted 2 times together. Im rolling back again. lets hope it works good this time.
I still dont know whats happening and why are we rolling back in the first place.

We're rolling back because after asking for an extension after all the chaos of the earlier errors and not getting one, 2 of the 5 people who are still active in this game staled which is rather unbalancing...and after all the stuff people had already gone through it was unnecessarily unpleasant for some people to put up with. With this rehost Tyrant and BDA should be able to get their turns in, everyone moves on and everyone is happy.

What I am curious about is why when turn 58 rehosted it said I staled instead of using the turn I had submitted the first time around... Perhaps I'll redo my turn as well just to be on the safe side.

[BigDisAwesome]

My stupid fan still isn't in. I'm hoping it will be in by Friday. Sorry guys, but I just don't feel very comfortable leaving my computer on more than a couple minutes here and there until I get that fan back in. I'll post here as soon as I get it installed. Cause right after that I'll be slamming a turn together.

Sorry again, and thanks everyone for waiting for me.

[GrudgeBringer]

Ya don't want to burn up your Comp man, do what you have to do.

I have a question tho....We got turn 58 and like the rest (I think?) I am redoing it.

Now, after I finish it I send it in like normal right?

Then why do I already have a turn 59, it doesn't know if I have changed anything.

Can I just delete it (turn 59) and wait for the new turn or am I supposed to be doing turn 59....

Someone take me by the hand and walk me thru all this crud.

Because between traveling, games in town, my business, and other games, I am becoming disoriented on what we have decided to do.

SOMEONE take pity on me PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Revolution]

Ya don't want to burn up your Comp man, do what you have to do.

I have a question tho....We got turn 58 and like the rest (I think?) I am redoing it.

Now, after I finish it I send it in like normal right?

Then why do I already have a turn 59, it doesn't know if I have changed anything.

Can I just delete it (turn 59) and wait for the new turn or am I supposed to be doing turn 59....

Someone take me by the hand and walk me thru all this crud.

Because between traveling, games in town, my business, and other games, I am becoming disoriented on what we have decided to do.

SOMEONE take pity on me PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go ahead and delete your turn 59 and redo the turn 58 that was sent to you and send that in.

[GrudgeBringer]

Thanks!!!!

[Revolution]

In the interest of having a more forum active pair of administrative eyes on this game thread, I was given the admin password for this game for the llamaserver. I extended hosting until friday night/saturday morning,(time zone depending) a 36 hour delay back when bigdisawesome first had his comp problem pop up. There is currently about 7 hours until host time and we're still waiting on turns from ulm and fomoria. I'm going to delay hosting by another 24 hours just in case BigDisAwesome has not gotten his fan in yet but I would like to see those turns get in ASAP...this game has been delayed enough. Tyrant get your turn in as soon as you can and if I see ulm get his turn in I'll force host.

To be fair I'm going to give 1 turn warning right now, Tir Na Nog and Ermor will be set to AI after this turn. (assuming they continue staling of course)

[GrudgeBringer]

Glad to see your Admin now...

I want to give BDA time to get a fan in but I think we need to maybe PM him and see what his status is.

Honestly...I am about extended out

[BigDisAwesome]

It looks like you guys are going to have to go on without me. I'm posting from a friends house right now. I got the fan installed, but I had to take my motherboard out to get screws through it. When I put everything back in, I can't get it to detect my hard drives. I run two in raid 0. I thought about just doing a reformat and starting over, but I have about 2 years of photos of my son on there that aren't backed up. So if I can't get it working, I'm going to be paying someone else to. I really don't want to lose all those memories.

Needless to say, it could be at least a week until it's up and running again. I was looking forward to getting back into it with this being the only game I've had a shot at, but if you all wait for me this game will fizzle out for sure. I'm really sorry guys.

I'll try to check this every couple days until I get it up and running. If it happens to start working real soon I'll pop back in to let you guys know, but at this point my hopes aren't very high.

[Revolution]

Wow...we're really cursed

[GrudgeBringer]

If we REALLY want to try and keep this together I will wait for BDA for another week (the holiday is upon us (for us yanks anyway),

HOWEVER, I start Traveling playing ball agian the week of the 11th and will be full blast right on thru October.

This means I may be able to get my turns from some of the hotels with an away program, but I will be asking for extensions for some weekends.

IF we decide to bag this I would like to ask that I be allowed to finish it SP as I have got SO much farhter than I have ever been before and would like to try some things.

Please take a concensus and let me know what we are going to do...

Thanks Revolution for your proactive work trying to hold this together:up:

[AreaOfEffect]

I was on my way out of the game anyhow thanks to the forces of Atlantis and Argatha. And though I was in a position to put up some more fight, I don't think I had much in the way of the will to do so.

I therefore care not if this game were to end right here. I would personally like to move onto other games with greater promise.

[BigDisAwesome]

Here's a quick thought. AoE could go AI and take over my position. I just lost a rather big fight, but I'm still in a pretty decent spot. Just throwing it out there.

[AreaOfEffect]

I once took over for someone. I now know that it just isn't as enjoyable for me. It ends up feeling like work rather then play as I just can't get behind a faction I didn't develop from the beginning. Sorry.

[Revolution]

I'm tempted to maybe just put an end to this one unless someone still in it really wants to continue...

[GrudgeBringer]

i just got a PM from BDA and he is adament about not losing the picyures of his kids (I don't blame him).

He sounds like he thinks its just going to be too long to get it going agian.

I will be traveling agian starting the 11th of July playing ball and will be needing an occasional extension over weekends if I can't get Hotel Internet.

Lets just bag it and pat everyone left on the back for staying IN the game AND with the game this long.

I would like to take it SP as I Probably won't be able to play much MP till October when the season ends. I just am not sure what I or anybody has to do for me to continue the game SP, so any help on that subject would be helpful.

[AreaOfEffect]

Its possible that once the game is finalized llamabeast would be willing to send you all of the turn files and the much needed ftherlnd file. I would message him about it before you do anything else.

Once you have those files, you can just set all the other nations to AI and play out the game like any other single player. Though there is a way to also do it with just the ftherlnd files, but that involves everyone staling for a whole round.

[Revolution]

I'm going to call this game having not heard any objection to ending it. I'm not going to officially end it on the llamaserver yet because I'm not too sure what has to be done for grudge to play it SP.

Good game everyone, it just wasn't meant to be.

[GrudgeBringer]

I also congratulate the players that where left (Big and Small).

This game was played with a minimum of any arguments between players and until it just came apart it moved along quite well.

I ALWAYS looked forward to the new turn on this game.

If my peanut brain can grasp how to take this SP I will enjoy seeing how it ends up.

Thanks guys for a truly enjoyable game.:up:

[Torin]

good game everyone.

[AreaOfEffect]

GrudgeBringer,
A) Have us all set our nations to AI while you continue to play-by-mail on this server.
B) Have the admin set all of the nations to your e-mail and you can do it yourself.
C) Obtain the ftherlnd file for this game by contacting llamabeast directly. That will allow you to play the game like a normal SP.

Torin, a good game indeed. I would have been interested to know if you could have withstood my forces on your own. Atlantis' intervention in both your conflicts was likely a necessary step in your survival.

[Revolution]

GrudgeBringer,
A) Have us all set our nations to AI while you continue to play-by-mail on this server.
B) Have the admin set all of the nations to your e-mail and you can do it yourself.
C) Obtain the ftherlnd file for this game by contacting llamabeast directly. That will allow you to play the game like a normal SP.

Torin, a good game indeed. I would have been interested to know if you could have withstood my forces on your own. Atlantis' intervention in both your conflicts was likely a necessary step in your survival.

You put up a good fight AOE...those flying bane lords were rather irritating, hitting my basalt kings before they could buff up. They also gave me a new respect for copper plate. Using the sea trolls to defend against my endless earth attacks was also quite clever. Working with agartha in our wars against niefelheim and ermor likely benefited me more than Agartha...in both cases he ended up bearing the brunt of the enemy forces while my SC's nibbled away the enemy's fringe provinces. It was not really what I intended...it just ended up working out that way. In both wars I just tried to do as much damage as I could as quickly as possible.

[Tyrant]

Thanks for the game everyone, and thank you Llama.

Gratz to everyone who made it to the end, it's an accomplishment in a 17 player game.

GB & BDA- well played.:up: IMO both of you did very well indeed with nations that I consider quite weak.

BDA, just to explain my odd play in our short campaign, I looked over your gargoyles and realized i had no way to kill them. ( I was also highly displeased at having to face the Aegis after having just spent 20 fighting the damn medusa.) Strapping up the Kings and going toe-to-toe was not an option 'cause I didn't have enough of them. Sauro killed a handful, but hurt me much more by shutting down my capitol with a veritable monsoon of toads. So if i'd have sent the Kings into melee I would not have had sufficient casters to face your brilliantly scripted and magnificently equipped main host. I had to let you rampage about and surround and invest my capitol while i researched disintegrate, and then risk the fate of the nation on a single do-or-die battle. Nerve wracking! GG, that was a very impressive offensive.