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[earcaraxe]

Hi!

Looking for players for an MA game. Since my previous idea didnt proved to be quite popular, I throw in my new one:

map: the land of loemendor (not the scenario one), but will depend on interest, so to be determined.

hosting: on lamaserver, 24 hrs initially with great tolerance to holidays and bigger intervals later as usual.

hof: 15

victory: consensus

mods:
-worthy heroes 1.9 and cbm 1.6 (http://www.nakido.com/F34858CD7ABF0A66BD9083AFC82C6385DFE4F151)
-edm 1.1 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=45056)
-mark of the champion (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=41087)

renaming on

special:
- In this part of the world gossip spreads with the wind, even the walls has ears: any communication, diplomacy, negotiation so any in-game talk must be done here on the forum. No PMing, skyping, emailing etc is allowed about the game. U can still talk about and make any agreements, but everyone will know about it.
roleplaying is encouraged, but not mandatory.
- The admin of the game will list the existing NAPs here in this post, and will keep it updated.

I'm open to suggestions.

earcaraxe : abysia
mscfish : pangaea defeated
yonz : ermor defeated
bvg : shinuyama
nrasch : bandar log
arnob : ulm defeated
baalz : man
finalgenesis: jotunheim
lihaassa : machaka
muse : r'lyeh
num : vanheim

NAP3s:

Bandar log - Abysia
Shinuyama - Abysia
Jotun - Bandar Log
Bandar Log - Vanheim
Vanheim - Jotunheim
R'lyeh - Abysia
Jotunheim - Abysia (5)
Machaka - R'lyeh
Bandar Log - R'lyeh (5)
Shinumyama - Bandar Log
Shinuyama - R'lyeh (5)
Abysia - Vanheim (5)

[mscfish]

I'd like sign in this game with pan

[Yonz]

I'd like to sign up as ermor if you don't mind having an inexperienced player in the game

[earcaraxe]

not at all, welcome!

[Grijalva]

I like this idea, Bandar Log

[arnob]

Hello

If new players are accepted, I would like to join this game with MA Ulm !

Arnob

[Baalz]

I'll play Man

[Finalgenesis]

I'll try Jotun

[Lihaässä]

I could join in as well.. my plan was to play with Man but Baalz got them first. I'll try to figure out an alternative if thats ok with you?

My final choice is Machaka

[Muse]

M-may I play R'lyeh? *pretty please!*

[Num]

Hello,
I would like to join, as Vanheim if it is ok. This would be my fifth mp game (Rattlehead, Let's Try Again, both finished, right now Master Blaster as an almost dead sub and Cyberrand3 with other french players). So not completely a newbie, but not at all a good player.

[earcaraxe]

it seems we are rounding out the limit, u can start to upload your pretenders.

the link for worthy heroes 1.9 doesnt seem to work now, could any of u provide one?

[earcaraxe]

before creating the game (so no uploading yet), i wuold like to ask, whether u prefer to have the special provinces or not, and whether the loemendor map would be ok for everybody. it will be a little packed with 15 provinces per nation.
I think it will be cool.

[Grijalva]

Well, I'm always in favor of a wrap-around map for the sake of balance, but this map has lots of ports and land bridges so it looks pretty good too.

I would definitely vote against the specials though as, like you said, it will be pretty crowded already without super-strong indies fencing us in. :)

[Num]

The map is fine for me. I do not have preferences about the special sites.
I would like to get a few days (This weekend if possible, at least saturday) before sending pretender. I have never played the nation I choose and it would be nice to get some time to prepare.

[arnob]

The map seems fine for me too and I gree that we are too many for the special sites

Arnob

[earcaraxe]

I will be away for the weekend, so the game wont start before monday.

No special sites then.

[earcaraxe]

game created.

[Num]

It is impossible to get the Worthy Heroes 1.9 mod (The 1.8 version is included in CBM 1.6 ?).

[Num]

I finally get the mod at the previous address with installing a small application from the website, probably a spyware... I hope no big deal.

Is diplomacy fully free, with the duty to only post on this thread ? I mean could we write something like : Hey Vanheim What about attacking the C'tis right now, we need to get rid of this little *** !

[Muse]

I finally get the mod at the previous address with installing a small application from the website, probably a spyware... I hope no big deal.

Is diplomacy fully free, with the duty to only post on this thread ? I mean could we write something like : Hey Vanheim What about attacking the C'tis right now, we need to get rid of this little *** !

Would you be so kind as to upload the mod to a site such as megaupload.com? It requires no installation of proprietary programs, nor deploys many banner ads.

As for the question-- I suspect it is not only allowed, but encouraged. Especially if one puts a flavorful flair on the proposal.

"It seems we've intercepted the errant dream of a Vanjarl, in addition to mead and swords, it would appear that he was slighted in his youth by a female C'tissian falchioner. I choose not to let this vivid psychological trauma go unpunished, and would care to invite the the rest of noble Vanheim to join me."

[Num]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=84L9ILTT

[Lihaässä]

Thanks, this link actually works.

[Yonz]

can someone tell me if CBM complete edition (found in the official thread) is fine? WH is a part of it as far as i know

[BvG]

Hi

Since Pyg seems to be unavailable (see other forum (http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=170&view=findpost&p=974622), I would like to be in the game in his stead. If that's ok for everybody?

I do have the mods and the map installed. All I'd need is a pretender, I guess?

[earcaraxe]

Hi

Since Pyg seems to be unavailable (see other forum (http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=170&view=findpost&p=974622), I would like to be in the game in his stead. If that's ok for everybody?

I do have the mods and the map installed. All I'd need is a pretender, I guess?

Hi!

I'm finally back from the county. BvG you are in, send in pretender. Which faction is so fortunate to be directed by you?

[BvG]

Oh I thought it's mandatory to take them japanese goblins, as pyg had them. Therefore I made thoughts for that. I'm preparing a pretender for Shinuyama now.

[Lihaässä]

I've sent my pretender now for 5 times..It still doesn't show on the server.

I made the pretender with right mods (CBM 1.6+WH1.9 combo, endgamediversity and mark of the champion)and sent the file to pretenders@llamaserver.net with the subject: Great_Forum

What do I do wrong?

Is it possible to get a separate version of worthy heroes 1.9? just to check, if the combo file fails somehow.

Sorry for the delay, not intentioned.

[Gregstrom]

Llamaserver doesn't check mods until the game starts AFAIK, so it's unlikely to be that.

[Num]

I am not sure but both the package Worthy Heroes+CBM and CBM may cause problems (Probably not the one you get, which looks more like a mail issue).

Mistakes I have made you may want to check : Wrong era, wrong file. Maybe wrong game version (3.24) and a misterious issue of mail address being refused by the game server...

[Lihaässä]

I'll check all of these tonight. Thanks for the input!

[Finalgenesis]

:eek: I am last.

I'll have my pretender sent in a few hours!

[Yonz]

I have installed all three mods listed in the OP, but the thing won't launch. it says it's missing a mod called CB_complete1.6.dm. I keep getting the same message even if I enable CBM complete as found in the official thread, so I dunno why this is happenning. any helpful suggestions would be appreciated.

is it possible that some other mods I have could be causing trouble?

[arnob]

I have installed all three mods listed in the OP, but the thing won't launch. it says it's missing a mod called CB_complete1.6.dm. I keep getting the same message even if I enable CBM complete as found in the official thread, so I dunno why this is happenning. any helpful suggestions would be appreciated.

is it possible that some other mods I have could be causing trouble?

On my mod directory I have a CBcomplete_1.6.dm. I test to delete it and to load again the file from llamaserver and I have the same error as you.

Maybe if you download this file from http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=43949, that will work ?

Arnob

[Yonz]

checked the folder, it really didn't have the file with that name in it. the closest approximation would be cbm_1-6_complete.dm, which is what you get if you install cbm as found in the thread you linked. I am at a loss here, people. :/

[arnob]

I have installed all three mods listed in the OP, but the thing won't launch. it says it's missing a mod called CB_complete1.6.dm. I keep getting the same message even if I enable CBM complete as found in the official thread, so I dunno why this is happenning. any helpful suggestions would be appreciated.

is it possible that some other mods I have could be causing trouble?

checked the folder, it really didn't have the file with that name in it. the closest approximation would be cbm_1-6_complete.dm, which is what you get if you install cbm as found in the thread you linked. I am at a loss here, people. :/

I just check the link and the file include in the zip is "CBcomplete_1.6.dm" not "cbm_1-6_complete.dm"

Or maybe if you rename your "cbm_1-6_complete.dm" into "CBcomplete_1.6.dm" ?

Arnob

[Num]

Actually on this game I have cbm 1.6 and Worthy heroes 1.9+cbm 1.6 automatically enabled. The turn 1 enables both. That is like 2 times the same but I hope it will not cause issues...

[earcaraxe]

Yonz, have u managed to solve the problems?

I changed the reminder from 6 to 9hrs, because it is now longer then usual sleep-interval.

[Num]

Do someone know if starting positions are completely random provinces, or predefined, or anything else ? I am too lazy to try out myself.

I will try to write small notes and make screenshots on a regularly basis in order to make a simple AAR in a while (maybe soon if I am beated out, or with a great gap with the game pace, or anything, I do not know yet). That is just an idea I got when I signed in. I will need motivation (Not a lot but enough to write a few words and make some screenshots each time I will play...). We'll see.

[Yonz]

it's working now, but I don't have the map. can someone link it please?

[arnob]

it's working now, but I don't have the map. can someone link it please?

I use this one : http://dom3maps.wikidot.com/system:loemendor

Arnob

[earcaraxe]

http://www.math.bme.hu/~simon/aaa.zip

[arnob]

I have a question about victory conditions (since it's my first e-mail game) : What's the 5 small crowns I see on the map ? Do we need to conquier this crowns in order to win the game ?

Arnob

[earcaraxe]

I have a question about victory conditions (since it's my first e-mail game) : What's the 5 small crowns I see on the map ? Do we need to conquier this crowns in order to win the game ?

Arnob

no, it was an option to play for those points, but now victor is determined by consensus.

[Yonz]

thanks earcaraxe and arnob, with your help I've just sent in my first turn. :)
love the map, it's nice to see it's not wraparound once for a change (I know it's less balanced that way, but at least you don't have any trouble orienting yourself :))

[Grijalva]

sorry for the wait guys, my first turn is on the way...

[Num]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=46128&page=4

[arnob]

On this game (Warthog), they active both WH19 and CBM16. It's not the case with our game since only WH19 are activated (with cbm16 included inside). So I think we will not have the problem mention on this post ?

Map: Sharivar_nosites
Mods: Conceptual Balance 1.6 Complete, End Game Diversity 1.1, worthy heroes 1.9

[earcaraxe]

i'm quite sure cbm 1.6 is redundant there, i tested it a couple times.

[Num]

Sure it is redundant (and may cause issues, I do not know).

I thought we had CBM in addition of WH+CBM on our game, but I do not have Dom3 installed right now in my office. So if there is only WH, it is ok, my post was useless.

[arnob]

Hello All

I just send my turn to the server.

This week end I will not be able to play my turn. It is possible to delay the next turn to 03:10 GMT on Tuesday August 31th instead of 03:10 GMT on Saturday August 28th ?



Arnob

[earcaraxe]

i changed the hosting interval to 96 hrs. please notify me when u got back to switch it back, thanks.

[arnob]

i changed the hosting interval to 96 hrs. please notify me when u got back to switch it back, thanks.

Thanks a lot !

[mscfish]

What are the RLY doing?

[Lihaässä]

Arnob seems to have played his turn already. I'm not a big fan of over-weekend-breaks. This time the person asking for the delay was even able to play it on time.

Please don't ask for delays if you don't need it. And if you're able to play your turn on time, please notify others to keep the pace. We are on turn 3 after 5 days of playing.

Great tolerance was mentioned on the first post but stil..:re:

[Muse]

The Sea whispers its apologies.
It was under the impression that time would be paused for another little while or two.

[earcaraxe]

Dear cold-meated tiger-tamers!

The warlocks of Smouldercone greet the expeditionary forces of the apes. We would like to ask you, to avoid attacking the province south from our meeting-point, as we consider it well inside abysian sphere of influence. With good faith in the fruitfulness of our cooperation, we also offer a NAP3.

[Grijalva]

Greetings hot, spicy monkeys who go by the name "Abysians,"

That sounds reasonable as the sacred riders have other targets in mind.

Thus, the Monkey Council deems it wise to accept said NAP3

[Num]

God of Vanheim has a vision : There are frost giants next to our lands. The ruler of those creatures must know that our people is seeking for peace. Brotherhood of Cold, Ice and Wind must guide our way.

[arnob]

Hello All

The people of Ulm is back after a seminar on forging techniques this weekend ... We can return to the usual interval turn

Otherwise if someone needs some earth gems, I am ready to consider all business proposals!

Arnob

[arnob]

God of Vanheim has a vision : There are frost giants next to our lands. The ruler of those creatures must know that our people is seeking for peace. Brotherhood of Cold, Ice and Wind must guide our way.

Dear God Of Vanheim and God of Jotunheim

We had a similar vision. A pack of giants with some Jotun Woodsmans (with some levels of blessing).

Arnob

[earcaraxe]

hosting inteval is back to 24 hrs.

I will be without net connection from tomorrow until sunday noon, so there will be a couple days break again.

[BvG]

Dearest Man


The goblins greet thee
Your south friend wills peace
A new beginning...

Inquire a NAP.
Cancel three turns before fight
Forrest-marsh is you

You be all farmland
Ours three swamp and harbour
Warm clothes good?


Sincerely yours
Shinuyama

[earcaraxe]

hosting inteval is back to 24 hrs.

I will be without net connection from tomorrow until sunday noon, so there will be a couple days break again.

Back to 96 hrs. I will switch back to 24 hrs on sunday.

[Finalgenesis]

The Jarls of Jotunheim would like to express their intention for peace, lest anyone encroach on their territory in the Eastern wasteland.

[arnob]

The Jarls of Jotunheim would like to express their intention for peace, lest anyone encroach on their territory in the Eastern wasteland.

Dear frost god of Jotunheim

I am very pleased to read that you are looking for a lasting peace between our countries.

I propose that our boundaries are as follows:
- Thardun is in our country
- All that is south of the territory is yours, including bridges across the River.

What do you think of this agreement?

Arnob

[Baalz]

Oh ack, all this talk o' peace be turnin' me stomach. The boots of Man march to conquer the world, ye will all be under my sword eventually. All these proclamations of peaceful intent are but farts on the wind, I cannot conceive of the the next ascendant claiming the throne with his tail between his legs. Any wanting friendship with Man will earn it and be richer for it. Any seeking peace may buy it by bending a knee and offer tribute. You show weakness, goblin king. If you wish forbearance you will send what you can spare. If your gift is acceptable ye shall have the treaty ye wish.

[Num]

Arrogant people of Man is lucky to live far from us, they would eat their words and hide in the leaves of their delicate trees.

[Yonz]

The clergy of Ermor wishes to express their dissatisfaction with the pace of this game. We find it unnacceptable as it hinders tithing and sets a bad example for the people. As a result, we also find it unacceptable to be condemned to having only two orgies a day should this trend of decadence continue.

[arnob]

The clergy of Ermor wishes to express their dissatisfaction with the pace of this game.

A newby question. Is it possible to create a game with a strict pace : if someone don't play before the end of the turn, llamserver still sends the new file to players, without any moves for late players ?

Arnob

[Num]

Every game is functioning exactly the way you describe, the pace is the turn interval, which is determined and modified as the players wish (1 day for this game, but modified by earcaraxe going out).
It is very hard to assemble 15 people for a daily task, for a few months.

[Grijalva]

speaking of such things: why is our game still set to 120-hour turn-hosting? Maybe after this turn we could change it back to 24h? Please hurry guys, because I don't want to wait another two days for this (rather uneventful) turn.

[earcaraxe]

hi!

im back, and turned the hosting interval back to 24hrs.

[mscfish]

It is realy upset for waiting so long.Please hurry,guys.

[Finalgenesis]

To the Lady of Clouds Arnob,

Thardun and southward as far as the eyes can see is now our country, we deem the current borders to be favorable. You may take East Faindun at your leisure.

The Jarls of Jotunheim would like to express their intention for peace, lest anyone encroach on their territory in the Eastern wasteland.

Dear frost god of Jotunheim

I am very pleased to read that you are looking for a lasting peace between our countries.

I propose that our boundaries are as follows:
- Thardun is in our country
- All that is south of the territory is yours, including bridges across the River.

What do you think of this agreement?

Arnob

[arnob]

Dear Frosty Giant

I'm afraid that you didn't read well our first message. So I will emphase the most important aspect :

Could you move, as quickly as possible, from Thardun ?

You are far from your capital and I do not want to embarrass you in inflicting a stinging defeat!

I have the honour to remain, dear Frosty, your most humble and obedient servant.

Arnob

To the Lady of Clouds Arnob,

Thardun and southward as far as the eyes can see is now our country, we deem the current borders to be favorable. You may take East Faindun at your leisure.

The Jarls of Jotunheim would like to express their intention for peace, lest anyone encroach on their territory in the Eastern wasteland.

Dear frost god of Jotunheim

I am very pleased to read that you are looking for a lasting peace between our countries.

I propose that our boundaries are as follows:
- Thardun is in our country
- All that is south of the territory is yours, including bridges across the River.

What do you think of this agreement?

Arnob

[Finalgenesis]

Interesting, Not only have I not agreed to your "proposal", I have already owned all that is south at the time of your proposal. Your proposal brings nothing of value to us but rather seek to bind us for your gain, an ill-intentioned insult you fling in our face indeed.

If you are implying that Thardun lies closer to your capital, I would raise to you that Thardun lies exactly in the middle, 2 provinces away from each of our capital. It is more then obvious that you do not plan to deal in good faith and seek provocation for war.

Do not mistake the declaration of peaceful intent of the Jotuns for weakness, we will gladly accept your declaration of war, prepare thyself.

[arnob]

Dear Frosty Giant

Your stubbornness and your aggressive territorial expansion leaves us no more other choices !

It is a drama for people so quiet and peaceful as mine. But we shall do everything we can to reconquer the territory of our ancestor.

But we know how to be generous: if you leave this place and let us take up it without bloodshed, we are ready to offer a long-lasting peace between our two countries.

I know that the blood sometimes has difficulty in irrigating a head of giant, but I hope that you will know how to take into account our justifiable territorial request.

I have the honour to remain, dear Icy Giant, your most humble and obedient servant.

Arnob, King of Ulm and Prince of Thardun.

[Finalgenesis]

To Pangaea,

my scouts have spotted your province, and would like to extend peace to you in the form of NAP 3.

To Ulm,

You short lived humans did not even exist as a race when we owned the land now called Thardun, that you claim it as your ancestral land is laughable. Your one-sided oratory on your so called "proposal" amuses us greatly.

We see through your excuses and veiled attempt to instigate war, mistaking our generosity to the younger races for weakness would be the your downfall. This is surely a sign that treacherous humans need be purged.

-Council of Jarls

[arnob]

To Mscfish and Num :

Hello Dear Gods

It seems that you have borders with our friends giants. You certainly noticed the cooling of our relations recently.

You have the fate of the people of Ulm into your hands, if you let FinalGenesis destroy us, he will doubtless become the most powerful god of this world. And because you are his neighbors, you certainly will be the next target...

We hope your supports :-)

Arnob

[Finalgenesis]

And we would raise to your (Vanheim and Pangaea) attention the treachery of Ulm, our offer of peace was meet with the insulting demands (disguised as a "proposal") of these humans.

Our land holdings are wasteland, where crops do not grow and water is more precious then gold. Yet Ulm seek to imprison us in our dead lands and demanding lands required to feed our population, truly their evil have no boundaries.

You will note that our income is lower then that of many others, and Ulm seeks to manipulate us elder kind into warring with each other as are the ways of treacherous humans.

Arnob, The wisdom of elder kinds such as Vans and Pans of nature know of the treachery and deceitful nature of humankinds, your attempts to subvert and scheme among us will have the opposite effect.

I would further invite Vanheim to the cleansing of the humans of Ulm, whose scheming ways are an affront to our nobler elder races. We note that you may rather expand at this point, and am prepared to offer you either NAP 3 or 5 of your choice with the addendum to guarantee leaving Jantal(101) to your people. You will find this a concrete and sincere demonstration of our intentions.

Should you happen to wish for joining in our cleansing of Human Ulm and in position to do so, do let us know.

[Finalgenesis]

To Bandar Log:

We congratulate you on obtaining a strategic foothold into the wasteland, home of the giants, and hope you find its poor soil and lack of water to your liking. Life in the wasteland is a harsh existence as I am certain you'll find.

Meanwhile, be aware that conquest into the 2 remaining waste province you see is imminent.

For the interim, would you be interested in a NAP 3?

[Grijalva]

The M.E.F. (Markata Expeditionary Force) has no desire to exploit recent gains in the Eastern coastal wastes as it is needed to conquer other wastes.

Thus, my chittering ambassadors accept your NAP3.

[earcaraxe]

Leaders of the people with four hands, dear monkeys!

I plan to attach Zecan desert to my empire and make its eastern border the border of our countries. I hope you find it acceptable and fair.

Ozzy

[earcaraxe]

Leaders of Shinuyama!

I offer you a pact which is commonly denoted by the hieroglyph "NAP3".
I consider Slave Coast in my sphere of influence, just as most probably u consider Brightstone in yours.

The lord of Decay and Brimstone,

Ozzy

[BvG]

Dearest Ozzy of Abysia


Watered greets
Ozzy of Abysia
We are at east-sea.

We will stay below
Do you too like NAPping?
Ulm currently hate

You like Unicorn?
Like chicken very tasty treat
Suggested rice side


Sincerely yours
BvG, Shinuyama

PS: Translationing for make easy understanding:
Planning to make landfall not we, like a NAP 3 you? Currently with feasting unicorn we busy (tasty like dove), maybe like snack of unicorn pathé too you?

[Num]

Hello everyone,
I would like to stay neutral in your war, lords of Ulm and Jotunheim. My seeking for peace is sincere. I will not cross the river which stands between us, I expect you will do the same.
As for you, lord of Bandar Log, you may take the Arandor port if you want to, take it as an evidence of friensdship.
Peace and let's walk naked in the cool forests to calm our minds.

[Finalgenesis]

*OOC*

I wonder what's happening to Ryleth? Log is showing that they haven't staled to date, but it's stat definitely looks like a staled nation.

[Muse]

*OOC*

I wonder what's happening to Ryleth? Log is showing that they haven't staled to date, but it's stat definitely looks like a staled nation.

There is no one here and you see nothing. *McEscher face*

[mscfish]

To Mscfish and Num :

Hello Dear Gods

It seems that you have borders with our friends giants. You certainly noticed the cooling of our relations recently.

You have the fate of the people of Ulm into your hands, if you let FinalGenesis destroy us, he will doubtless become the most powerful god of this world. And because you are his neighbors, you certainly will be the next target...

We hope your supports :-)

Arnob
Greetings ULM!

Pangaea will give you our hands.Good luck!

[Yonz]

To leaders of Bandar Log:
Stray no further, lest we bring down our unholy might upon you. However, we have pressing matters to attend to and thus it would be for the best if we kept our borders as they currently are.

[Finalgenesis]

We announce to whoever Pangaea's Western Neighbor is, Pangaea's forces are composed mainly of naked women and one such force mixed in with a small contingent of lightly armed Satyrs/minotaur have already meet their demise in our lands to virtually no losses to us. Their total national "army" as of now is composed of less then 140 such naked girls and some satyrs/minotaurs.

It would be an excellent opportunity to conquer some of Pangaea's rich soils while they seek to "overrun" us with naked women (not that our Vaettis mind of course, they get very excited over the recent influx of naked women slaves).

Truly, do save us from laughing ourselves to death against the invading horde of naked women, it has proved highly disruptive to our meetings of Jarls, where decisions on the issue could not be made due to non-stop guffaws.

Barring that, we suppose we must stamp out the Pans and take their rich soils for ourselves.

To Mscfish and Num :

Hello Dear Gods

It seems that you have borders with our friends giants. You certainly noticed the cooling of our relations recently.

You have the fate of the people of Ulm into your hands, if you let FinalGenesis destroy us, he will doubtless become the most powerful god of this world. And because you are his neighbors, you certainly will be the next target...

We hope your supports :-)

Arnob
Greetings ULM!

Pangaea will give you our hands.Good luck!

[arnob]

Greetings ULM!

Pangaea will give you our hands.Good luck!

Great News ! We will dance naked in the woods when we win this war :-) You bring naked girls and I bring famous Ulm wine !

Arnob

[arnob]

Truly, do save us from laughing ourselves to death against the invading horde of naked women, it has proved highly disruptive to our meetings of Jarls, where decisions on the issue could not be made due to non-stop guffaws.



Laugh as long as you can !

And please keep me some barel of beer in your castle...

Arnob

[BvG]

Oh Unmentionable R'lyeh

Take free water stuff
castle province we get
have happy NAPping!

two not connected
NAP important rest not so
happy rice feasting ;)

Dearest
BvG, Shinuyama

Translation (short for time saving)
NAP 3 suggested. independent suggestion: we'd like the castle, don't care for unclaimed water province(s).

[pyg]

Truly, do save us from laughing ourselves to death against the invading horde of naked women, it has proved highly disruptive to our meetings of Jarls, where decisions on the issue could not be made due to non-stop guffaws.



Laugh as long as you can !

And please keep me some barel of beer in your castle...

Arnob

Sorry, all your beer are belong to us!

[Muse]

Oh Unmentionable R'lyeh

Take free water stuff
castle province we get
have happy NAPping!

two not connected
NAP important rest not so
happy rice feasting ;)

Dearest
BvG, Shinuyama

Translation (short for time saving)
NAP 3 suggested. independent suggestion: we'd like the castle, don't care for unclaimed water province(s).

*whisper* It's somewhat disturbing that everyone seems to be aware of our name. And that we exist. *whisper-and-glance*

A star child makes several mouth gestures indicating that we will happily accept your goblin-infested NAP-3. We only ask that the beaches remain clear for any human women who wish to go swimming.

As for the capital of our leafy-green bordermates, mmmm... this is an interesting issue. We are inclined to say "If you can take it, it's yours." But then... *peers thoughtfully out to sea*

Ancient Kraken 1: [jaunty melody] "Don't un-der-estimate your op-pon-nents!"
Kraken Chorus: "They're far from be-eaten yet..." [synchronized tentacle wiggle]


Waves pass, and behind them several mindslaves could be heard absently gibbering:
"But at peace with the master, they'll only be able to expand directly into the Smouldercone!"

[Grijalva]

To the Gods of Vanheim and Ermor:

The Most Exulted Monkey Council deems it wise to confirm that we intend to expand no further into your respective realms and thus offer each of you an NAP3.

- Bater (really the computer gave him this name), the Prophet of Wu Kong

[earcaraxe]

ooc: please tell me who's got NAPs between them, im getting lost among the chit-chats and haikus.

[Yonz]

To our Machakan soon-to-be neighbours:

To ensure good relations heed our advice: leave 124 and 108 be. They will bend the knee to us in the next few months.

[BvG]

ooc: please tell me who's got NAPs between them, im getting lost among the chit-chats and haikus.

Who's ooc?

Currently, Shinuyama has a NAP with R'lyeh and you (Abysia), as far as I know.

[earcaraxe]

by "ooc" i meant "out of character". thanks.

[Finalgenesis]

*OOC*

To make things simply I'll keep a list of any NAP below.

Jotun - Bandar Log : NAP 3

[Lihaässä]

Yonz: Finders keepers - We don't negotiate about lands possessed independents. Care to trade my N/F/E gems to your Astrals?

[Grijalva]

ooc: please tell me who's got NAPs between them, im getting lost among the chit-chats and haikus.

Bandar Log - Jotun - NAP3

Bandar Log - Abysia - NAP3

[Grijalva]

Also, Vanhiem, you mentioned peace in your remarks about our border, but I'm not sure if you meant an NAP3 or not.

Anyway, such an agreement is on the table if you want to confirm it.

[earcaraxe]

*OOC*

To make things simply I'll keep a list of any NAP below.

Jotun - Bandar Log : NAP 3

i keep a list in the first post too.

[Num]

Also, Vanhiem, you mentioned peace in your remarks about our border, but I'm not sure if you meant an NAP3 or not.

That would be a pleasure. So there is a NAP 3 Bandar Log-Vanheim. Monkeys are funny. I do not want them destroyed.

On the other side, there is not the same pact between Vanheim and Jotunheim. Lord of Jotuns have made a proposal, but it was with an agreement of war against Ulm, which is not my intention. Lord of the Giants may be interested to know that I would agree the same agreement with no war against Ulm involved in...

[Finalgenesis]

To Vanheim:

We agree to Vanheim's proposal, NAP 3, and actually our offer of peace was seperate from the war so no problems there (it was not a condition), we did mention that you may prefer to expand instead.

[Yonz]

Yonz: Finders keepers - We don't negotiate about lands possessed independents. Care to trade my N/F/E gems to your Astrals?

Then tread carefully since probably don't want to stumble upon one of my expansion parties. As for the gems: I'll pass that as I currently have no way of spending N F or E gems. Maybe later.

[earcaraxe]

To the Leader of Pangaea.

I have no intention to send my warriors to war with the people of the woods, but im not very pleased u killed my guards in the desert. I offer a pact of peace with the borderline between the Endless wastes and red coast.


Awaiting your answer

Ozzy, the raging prince

[mscfish]

To the Leader of Pangaea.

I have no intention to send my warriors to war with the people of the woods, but im not very pleased u killed my guards in the desert. I offer a pact of peace with the borderline between the Endless wastes and red coast.


Awaiting your answer

Ozzy, the raging prince

Greetings!

First,We apologized for the accident.
And ,Pangaea accpet your opinion about the borderline.
After that,we offer you the Great Abysia an NAP-3 treaty.

Best wishes!

Pangaea mscfish

[Finalgenesis]

To Abysia,

I believe that even if you wish for peace with Pangaea, you can likely wring out a tribute (or reparations if you prefer) from him for a NAP agreement as he is being pressed in from the north by us and would certainly not want you to join in.

We would of course welcome your aid in attacking Pangaea, but we understand your intention of peace toward Pangaea.

To Pangaeans,

We would offer you a last chance for peace in the form of NAP 3, including the return of the province we have just captured from you this turn. Once this month passes and you Pans insist at war, then we shall proceed to exterminate your kind.

[earcaraxe]

Pans! we have an agreement then.

Ozzy

To the Leader of Pangaea.

I have no intention to send my warriors to war with the people of the woods, but im not very pleased u killed my guards in the desert. I offer a pact of peace with the borderline between the Endless wastes and red coast.


Awaiting your answer

Ozzy, the raging prince

Greetings!

First,We apologized for the accident.
And ,Pangaea accpet your opinion about the borderline.
After that,we offer you the Great Abysia an NAP-3 treaty.

Best wishes!

Pangaea mscfish

[Grijalva]

Dear Ermor,

The monkey people don't like you anymore, and our offer of peace (not having been confirmed) is now off the table.

Dear Machacka,

The chittering, poop-slinging and wise monkeys of the Monkey Council have deemed it...well...wise, to attack Ermor. We want their rich farmlands for banana-plantations. Please attack Ermor soon and you will have many monkey friends with whom to trade gems and bananas and such.

- Bater, Markata Generalissimo and Prophet of Wu Kong

[Muse]

To Shinuyama, care of Tomoyuki:
Ooh! Ooh! La! La! The star children clap their mouth tentacles in applause-- those are no small goblins, but lovely ogres! Our formerly sandy opinion of your civilization has been altered to gravelly.

To business: We wish the province of Heulas to complete our vaconce area; enjoy the castle and unicorn banquet!

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To Abysia, care of Ozzy:
The Cheerful Krakens tell us they've seen a charming death-flavored male soaring by during one of their "concerts."
They liked him, as do we!
As such, The Ocean Underneath wishes to invite you to a cordial NAP-3, that we may attend musical events together without risk of spilled beverages.

[Finalgenesis]

To Ulm,

The Jarls of Jotunheim scream for your blood with our latest victory, Odin is certainly pleased with the feast of half your total forces for his ravens. It would be easy for the Jotun giants to press forward now, yet I am generous and of a mind to put rein to my Jarls' enthusiasm.

Should you wish for peace at this juncture, I would suggest a gift to placate the Jotun Jarls, lest they refuse even my directive after smelling blood. A gift of 15 E gems should suffice to satisfy my unruly subjects. I believe this offer to be quite generous as things stand now, and that you should find it more then reasonable considering your likely losses and possible demise should this war continue.

I can arrange a NAP 3 for you should you accept the above, or perhaps even a NAP 5 should you prefer if you gift us a famous forge hammer of Ulm in replacement of 15E, or 15E + 250 gold.

Of course, as my Jarls can certainly understand, logic does not always come first and the desire for vengeance may overcome one's sense of self-preservation, I find I should warn you that while the giants can be a fearsome foe, the force you see is but a tip of the iceberg, something worst approaches.

-Freyr, God of Jotuns

Agreements:
Jotun - Bandar Log : NAP3
Jotun - Vanheim : NAP3

[Lihaässä]

I don't see monkeys yet and have no wish for war at this stage. Instead, If Ermor is down for Nap3 we would offer our hand in future endeavors and business.

[earcaraxe]

To Abysia, care of Ozzy:
The Cheerful Krakens tell us they've seen a charming death-flavored male soaring by during one of their "concerts."
They liked him, as do we!
As such, The Ocean Underneath wishes to invite you to a cordial NAP-3, that we may attend musical events together without risk of spilled beverages.

Children of the stars!

I consider your offer wise and forseeing and in synch with my intentions, so I - in the name of the abysians - accept it.

Ozzy, the lord of past memories and the Smouldercone

[earcaraxe]

Dear Pans!

As my memory is not subject to fading since my brains rotted away, I'm quite sure we agreed on our borders to be between th endless wastes and the red coast. However i cant fail to notice that some of your chicks couldnt resist the call of the beach and set camp on red coast. I wonder if this breach of agreement is intentional or the result of miscommunication in your armies and you call them back immediately.

The prince of death

To the Leader of Pangaea.

I have no intention to send my warriors to war with the people of the woods, but im not very pleased u killed my guards in the desert. I offer a pact of peace with the borderline between the Endless wastes and red coast.


Awaiting your answer

Ozzy, the raging prince

Greetings!

First,We apologized for the accident.
And ,Pangaea accpet your opinion about the borderline.
After that,we offer you the Great Abysia an NAP-3 treaty.

Best wishes!

Pangaea mscfish

[Yonz]

We accept Machaka's wise proposal.

Funnily enough we have somehow missed a peace proposal from the monkey filth. An unintended mistake, milking money and drinking it off makes our Thaumaturgs rather sloppy, such things are easy to overlook. But do not worry, we shall have your troops on skewers in a minute.

To lords of Vanheim:

We offer NAP 3, no need to rush anything, right?

[mscfish]

Dear Pans!

As my memory is not subject to fading since my brains rotted away, I'm quite sure we agreed on our borders to be between th endless wastes and the red coast. However i cant fail to notice that some of your chicks couldnt resist the call of the beach and set camp on red coast. I wonder if this breach of agreement is intentional or the result of miscommunication in your armies and you call them back immediately.

The prince of death

To the Leader of Pangaea.

I have no intention to send my warriors to war with the people of the woods, but im not very pleased u killed my guards in the desert. I offer a pact of peace with the borderline between the Endless wastes and red coast.


Awaiting your answer

Ozzy, the raging prince

Greetings!

First,We apologized for the accident.
And ,Pangaea accpet your opinion about the borderline.
After that,we offer you the Great Abysia an NAP-3 treaty.

Best wishes!

Pangaea mscfish

Apologized again.

As you know,we are not good at english,and we misunderstood your word "borders to be between the endless wastes and the red coast" to that the endless wastes and the red coast(which was an indy province) are belong to us as the borders.
We will go back to our woods from the redcoast this turn.

Best wishes!
Pangaea mscfish

[Num]

To Yonz

To lords of Vanheim:

We offer NAP 3, no need to rush anything, right?

Do you offer Ondon (131) and the provinces north of it with a such agreement ?

[BvG]

To Shinuyama, care of Tomoyuki:
Ooh! Ooh! La! La! The star children clap their mouth tentacles in applause-- those are no small goblins, but lovely ogres! Our formerly sandy opinion of your civilization has been altered to gravelly.

To business: We wish the province of Heulas to complete our vaconce area; enjoy the castle and unicorn banquet!

How delightful!

The Forrest spirits applaud your choice, the sand there is just golden! We only wish you'd have left us some path to the rest of Mans provinces, how could we ever add them to our empire like that? Shall we trot the sea, instead of the land? Sad kitty :(

[Muse]

How delightful!

The Forrest spirits applaud your choice, the sand there is just golden! We only wish you'd have left us some path to the rest of Mans provinces, how could we ever add them to our empire like that? Shall we trot the sea, instead of the land? Sad kitty :(

The Silent Sea has quite the awareness of ships passing over it--we've left a large port province exclusively for your use, connecting to the other parts of the world.

There is also some oddness: Man has perhaps one province left quite far away from you; you are unfortunately somewhat late in that regard.
'Tis the reason you faced so little opposition, we *ate* the northern (rather warlike) unicorns. *cuteface*

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To Machaka, care of Mulungu:
The ocean mists have reported a pleasant interaction with spider pheromones near your newly western border!
In the spirit of continued spider reproduction, we offer you a preemptive NAP-3. However...
*watery glisten*
We are aware that you do not like to negotiate for independent provinces.
Yet.
The coastline and sea in the above area is ours, and a condition of our NAP--take it, and waves will engulf you. Unpleasantly. And instantly.

Some mindslaves believe such an ultimatum is harsh and unnecessary, after all, we do have very delicious tea. But we must be certain-- the ports are for the land dwelling, but the beaches... those beaches... are ours.

[Grijalva]

To Vanhiem,

Regarding the Ermorian "empire," It would probably be best for you to simply take by force those provinces that you want since I currently have his capital besieged and I'm sure most of his forces are/will be occupied trying to deal with that situation. This is especially true if you already have NAPs with all of your other neighbors since you may want a good, convenient direction to expand in.

@ Machacka

By the time you "see" monkeys, the war will be over :)

- Bater, Markata Activist, Prophet of Wu Kong

[Muse]

On NAPs:

It occurs to us that we should likely emphasize our above condition more stringently, lest there be misunderstanding--

Taking a claimed province (unless disputed, and negotiated upon, at time of claiming) shall be considered an act of war. Not simply a cancellation of peace.
As in world diplomacy, silence responding to a statement is acceptance.

Currently, The Cold Waves do not wish for much; a stretch of beach, the western waters. But taking them will result in a directed expanse of pain and tears. Perhaps whispers.

[earcaraxe]

Dear women-herders of the woods!

I do appreciate your cooperation and your quick answer.

wishing u luck and turmoil,

the prince

Dear Pans!

As my memory is not subject to fading since my brains rotted away, I'm quite sure we agreed on our borders to be between th endless wastes and the red coast. However i cant fail to notice that some of your chicks couldnt resist the call of the beach and set camp on red coast. I wonder if this breach of agreement is intentional or the result of miscommunication in your armies and you call them back immediately.

The prince of death



Greetings!

First,We apologized for the accident.
And ,Pangaea accpet your opinion about the borderline.
After that,we offer you the Great Abysia an NAP-3 treaty.

Best wishes!

Pangaea mscfish

Apologized again.

As you know,we are not good at english,and we misunderstood your word "borders to be between the endless wastes and the red coast" to that the endless wastes and the red coast(which was an indy province) are belong to us as the borders.
We will go back to our woods from the redcoast this turn.

Best wishes!
Pangaea mscfish

[Lihaässä]

[QUOTE=BvG;757690]
To Machaka, care of Mulungu:
The ocean mists have reported a pleasant interaction with spider pheromones near your newly western border!
In the spirit of continued spider reproduction, we offer you a preemptive NAP-3. However...
*watery glisten*
We are aware that you do not like to negotiate for independent provinces.
Yet.
The coastline and sea in the above area is ours, and a condition of our NAP--take it, and waves will engulf you. Unpleasantly. And instantly.

Some mindslaves believe such an ultimatum is harsh and unnecessary, after all, we do have very delicious tea. But we must be certain-- the ports are for the land dwelling, but the beaches... those beaches... are ours.

Muse, I accept your proposal of NAP 3 with these conditions. You may take provinces 75 and 79. I'll take Port at 85 and beach at 84. I have no interest on sea territories except of those further north surrounded by my territory. Do you sign this proposal of no attacking policy?

- Mulungu

[Muse]

Muse, I accept your proposal of NAP 3 with these conditions. You may take provinces 75 and 79. I'll take Port at 85 and beach at 84. I have no interest on sea territories except of those further north surrounded by my territory. Do you sign this proposal of no attacking policy?

- Mulungu

The beach of Lower Hoburgia (84) is ours. The port, and all above it (save the water) is yours.
This was the condition, and if it is acceptable, we have an agreement.
*swish* *slosh* *swish*

[Yonz]

To Vanheim:

That is out of the question since most of the land there is already under our control. You can take a detour all the way until 146, but if you decide to heed the advice of the monkeys, you might run into a nasty surprise.

To Machaka: 153 is free to take.

[Grijalva]

Dear muse,

I understand the whole waiting-until-the-last-minute thing, I do it myself when the game gets complex and it is surely your right. However, this is still pretty early in the game...so when you're the last to send in your turn, can you please wait like five minutes and play the next turn as well? It shouldn't take very long and I think we'll see a quick turnaround...I'll do my best to follow this advice as well. :)

thanks,
Grijalva

[Muse]

Dear muse,

I understand the whole waiting-until-the-last-minute thing, I do it myself when the game gets complex and it is surely your right. However, this is still pretty early in the game...so when you're the last to send in your turn, can you please wait like five minutes and play the next turn as well? It shouldn't take very long and I think we'll see a quick turnaround...I'll do my best to follow this advice as well. :)

thanks,
Grijalva

The diplomatic situation is often not solidified before at least twenty hours have passed, giving everyone ample time to review the turn and access the forums-- hence I wait about a day before doing the next turn.
As example, for me, part of this turn will be dependent on Lihaässä's answer:
Do I gear up for spider slaying? Do I forge pitchers for rooibos tea on the beaches?
Completing my turn before finding that out would be problematic.

I check the game status often and plan my schedule accordingly (trying not to delay long if everyone has a quick clip); as it stands now, doing my turn immediately would only cut approximately two hours off the turnover.


That said! I will attempt to complete my turn a few hours earlier, if not immediately.
Hopefully this is acceptable. *huggles Grijalva*

[Grijalva]

Ha,

Fair enough, I hadn't considered that you may have been waiting on diplo, certainly enough reason to wait. :)

[arnob]

To Ulm,

...
I can arrange a NAP 3 for you should you accept the above, or perhaps even a NAP 5 should you prefer if you gift us a famous forge hammer of Ulm in replacement of 15E, or 15E + 250 gold.
...


Hum, Let me think about your proposal :

No

Arnob

[Lihaässä]

The beach of Lower Hoburgia (84) is ours. The port, and all above it (save the water) is yours.
This was the condition, and if it is acceptable, we have an agreement.
*swish* *slosh* *swish*

To Muse, Sorry, I got this message after uploading my turn. I have to play my turn rather early because of the time differences. You don't have to gear up for hunting spiders since that beach province holds no real value for us. I have now control over the province and I see you were fast enough building a fort under it. Could we cut this one from the middle, I'll hold the beach for 3 turns ( I conquered it after all ) and then you are free to take it?

I'm also willing to change some E/F/N gems to astral ones, if you're into that?

Otherwise I see no reason not to NAP with folks under the sea.

- Mulungu

To Yonz, Thanks - I'll take that province soon.

[Yonz]

Dear Num,

we still haven't heard from you. Do you accept our NAP 3?

Also, to neighbours of Bandar Log:
In case you have ulterior motives and have missed the obvious (most stick-wielding monkeys are currently scouring our plantations for sweet, sweet bananas) - now is a good chance to snatch some of those tasty-looking provinces. Cheers!

[Muse]

To Muse, Sorry, I got this message after uploading my turn. I have to play my turn rather early because of the time differences. You don't have to gear up for hunting spiders since that beach province holds no real value for us. I have now control over the province and I see you were fast enough building a fort under it. Could we cut this one from the middle, I'll hold the beach for 3 turns ( I conquered it after all ) and then you are free to take it?

I'm also willing to change some E/F/N gems to astral ones, if you're into that?

Otherwise I see no reason not to NAP with folks under the sea.

- Mulungu

To Yonz, Thanks - I'll take that province soon.

That is perfectly acceptable! Our NAP is solidified; in approximately three turns we shall secure the beach, and hopefully enjoy a lasting peace with the sweet smelling spiders!

As for trade... that is an interesting proposition, and one we like!
Usually people wish to purchase our tea, or nori, rarely these pearls.
Mayhaps earth gems for our bonsai pots, at a reasonable ratio of 1.5:1 Astral-to-Earth? (Completely negotiable.)

Think on it, it may be a turn or two before The Humming Fog shall commit to a trade.

[Finalgenesis]

I assume when you say 1.5:1 astral to earth, you meant it the other around? Or are you actually offering 1.5 astral gems per earth gems?

On the other hand, the jotuns declare it's intention to trade our N/D for Earth gems at 1:1, or our S for Earth gems at 3:4.

[Num]

Dear Num,

we still haven't heard from you. Do you accept our NAP 3?


You get your answer. My proposal about northern lands was sincere, I am really sorry it has no value for you. As you were my last neighbour met and with no pact binding us, you were brave and optimistic to reject it.

[Muse]

I assume when you say 1.5:1 astral to earth, you meant it the other around? Or are you actually offering 1.5 astral gems per earth gems?

On the other hand, the jotuns declare it's intention to trade our N/D for Earth gems at 1:1, or our S for Earth gems at 3:4.

Oh! Yes! You are quite correct. The Void does troubling things to numbers. We did infact mean a ratio of 1:1.5 Astral-To-Earth.

However! With your help has come a stinging backhand it seems-- undercutting us on Astral prices?! *stifled chortle*

Your 1.333 carries with it the hidden fee of your trading partner's blood.
Beware the Giants' need of Earth gems! *mumbles something about 'firebrands everywhere'*

[Grijalva]

A great tragedy has taken place this past month!

Whilst waiting for the enemy's great army to attack Far Amar (88), the mighty monkey armies and our human allies (including some barbarian "advisers") decided to pillage this once-rich province of 21,000+ farmers.

The large monkey-armies soon lost control, went bananas in fact, and slaughtered 11,000+ people while managing to collect some 500+ gold. 500 gold? That's the real tragedy, hardly makes the great "Massacre of Far Amar worth while. I'm never ordering my armies to pillage again. :)

The battle, at least, went very well. :)

Bater, Markata-Tom-Hanks, Prophet of Wu Kong

[Yonz]

We had managed to secure this year's produce, believing it would be for the best, but, alas, failed to consider the option of food-deprived monkeys going berserk. Such a horrendous tragedy.
Oh well, with all the food we have at least we can feast for months to come. Oh joy!

[Yonz]

Is llamaserver down or smth? It says it's already processed and dispatched turn no. 18, but I didn't get it even after two resend requests. Should I just keep trying?

[Grijalva]

first stale! man! I thought I had sent that turn in :(

Whats strange is that I didn't receive the new turn either....oh well, resend it is.

[Lihaässä]

EDIT - I asked for resend and got the turn right away. NO need for delay on my behalf

I didn't get turn 18 to my mail-box. I cannot play my turn now obviously, and the next time I can play the turn is tomorrow afternoon.

For these reasons I ask for a delay on hosting until tomorrow 16.00 GMT or until the problem with Llamaserver is fixed and the turn 18 resent.

[earcaraxe]

i didnt receive turn 18 either. is there anyone who did?

i postponed by 24 hrs to have more time to solve this.

any ideas?

[arnob]

i didnt receive turn 18 either. is there anyone who did?

i postponed by 24 hrs to have more time to solve this.

any ideas?

Apparently you have to ask the server to resend the file :
http://www.llamaserver.net/doAdminAction.cgi?game=Great_Forum&action=resend

Arnob

[Num]

The same for me. But it works when I asked for the server to resend the new turn.

[earcaraxe]

i tried to resend and it worked.

[mscfish]

i didnt receive turn 18 either. is there anyone who did?

i postponed by 24 hrs to have more time to solve this.

any ideas?

At first,also i didn't receive the trn file,but don't worry,just go to the game website and ask for resend,it will be ok.

So,still postpone by 24 hrs?

:)

[Finalgenesis]

To Abysia or Bandar Log,

The Jotuns offer a treasure of choice jewels: 30S, 30D and 40N for one thing: vengeance on Pangaeans, so that all may know that treachery on Jotuns carry repercussions. This is also an oppurtunity to gain land alongside a worthy bounty.

The treasure will be paid in installment based on various objective with the the goal of eventual destruction of Pans. A bonus 50 gem on top of the 100 base gem offer above will be paid on complete destruction of Pangaea, all of which will either be in S, D or N gems. Do let us know if you are interested.

-Council of Jarls

[BvG]

Dearest BeMused R'lyeh


You claim all beach provinces, yet do not move onto them. Could you spare one or all three of them?

Shinuyama
BvG

PS: I too had to tell Llamaserver to get out of it's shell and sent me the turn.

[earcaraxe]

Dear Pans!

I'm very tempted by the generous offer of the Jarls. However my only territorial desire is - to straighten out our borders - Endless wastes. I would like to offer 100 gold and my friendship for it.

awaiting your answer,

prince of heat of the moment

Ozzy

[earcaraxe]

I would like to trade for a pair of shoes which are made from earth, the doctor suggested my old warlock friend to wear it. (besides being very old and evil, he is also splay-footed). I offer 20 essences of fire, or fine items of abysian craftsmanship.

[earcaraxe]

in the first post there are a list of NAPs. please help me update it. thanks.

[Muse]

Dearest BeMused R'lyeh


You claim all beach provinces, yet do not move onto them. Could you spare one or all three of them?

Shinuyama
BvG

PS: I too had to tell Llamaserver to get out of it's shell and sent me the turn.

This is an interesting contention--if you could see the beach provinces, you'd know we were fighting the armies of Man for them.
We can see Man's capital, as we have had to siege it ourselves to prevent further reinforcements from assaulting us.

The Unending Waters are however *still* willing to withdraw from it, granting you the capital, whilst we secure our beaches once more.
You have this turn to maintain the siege; any further pretense to our small waterfront property will gain you only war.


As a minor diplomatic note: The Still Waves claim only those western beaches--the others of the world need not worry.

[mscfish]

Dear Pans!

I'm very tempted by the generous offer of the Jarls. However my only territorial desire is - to straighten out our borders - Endless wastes. I would like to offer 100 gold and my friendship for it.

awaiting your answer,

prince of heat of the moment

Ozzy
How dare you are!

Of course,we will not give up the Endless wastes.

Pangaea mscfish

[Finalgenesis]

To Abysians,

I would direct your attention to the oracle (score graph) showing army size of pangaea as it may impact your decision.

[Lihaässä]

To earcaraxe: Machacka has NAP3's with R'lyeh and Ermor

[Lihaässä]

I'll be out of town from Wednesday evening until Sunday evening. I'll play the next turn available tomorrow before leaving.

I would like to have a delay on hosting turn 23 until I'm back on Sunday.

Is this ok?

[earcaraxe]

ofc, have fun.

[earcaraxe]

Hi!

i got interested in ur offer. i wonder what the conditions exactly are.

the prince of baal-lair

To Abysia or Bandar Log,

The Jotuns offer a treasure of choice jewels: 30S, 30D and 40N for one thing: vengeance on Pangaeans, so that all may know that treachery on Jotuns carry repercussions. This is also an oppurtunity to gain land alongside a worthy bounty.

The treasure will be paid in installment based on various objective with the the goal of eventual destruction of Pans. A bonus 50 gem on top of the 100 base gem offer above will be paid on complete destruction of Pangaea, all of which will either be in S, D or N gems. Do let us know if you are interested.

-Council of Jarls

[Finalgenesis]

The conditions have changed since the time we offered this bounty months ago when we need aid most, Pan's army have been destroyed if you look at the score graph in these past months.

We would still offer 50 gems in random combinations of S/D/N for:

Capture of 3 forest provinces in the bottom right corner including capture of Pan's capital (somewhere in the forest or in (2)).

We've done the hard work of wiping out their current army, and you have a choice to be paid to expand your empire (including a capital with 5N income) at this point, a win-win situation.

We would also require a NAP 5 should you wish to take advantage of the offer.

Hi!

i got interested in ur offer. i wonder what the conditions exactly are.

the prince of baal-lair

To Abysia or Bandar Log,

The Jotuns offer a treasure of choice jewels: 30S, 30D and 40N for one thing: vengeance on Pangaeans, so that all may know that treachery on Jotuns carry repercussions. This is also an oppurtunity to gain land alongside a worthy bounty.

The treasure will be paid in installment based on various objective with the the goal of eventual destruction of Pans. A bonus 50 gem on top of the 100 base gem offer above will be paid on complete destruction of Pangaea, all of which will either be in S, D or N gems. Do let us know if you are interested.

-Council of Jarls

[Num]

Hi,
I will not be able to play from sunday morning to monday evening (+1 GMT), so I will maybe need an extension of time, depending on when everybody will play at the end of the weekend...

In addition I would like to point that the power of the black sorcerers is growing very fast. Please pay attention to them right now when they only have weak spiders to defend themselves.

@Earcaraxe : I will for sure be able to build any earth item soon. But I do not care about fire gems. Maybe the same amount of astral ones ?

And finally @Grijalva : What do you want of the remnants of Ermor ?

[Num]

The game has not been postponed, as Lihaassa requested.

[Lihaässä]

NUM, I didn't ask a delay for turn 22 but for turn 23. I already sent number 22 in.


In addition I would like to point that the power of the black sorcerers is growing very fast. Please pay attention to them right now when they only have weak spiders to defend themselves.

@Vanheim: If you try to pick your nose too far, you will eventually end up blood in your hands. ;) I'm not up for war since we only share one border province.

@Ermor: You're army is getting weak, are you able to defend yourself? If not, consider our NAP3 broken starting from turn 22.

[earcaraxe]

please send me a reminder when u leave, thanks.


Hi,
I will not be able to play from sunday morning to monday evening (+1 GMT), so I will maybe need an extension of time, depending on when everybody will play at the end of the weekend...

In addition I would like to point that the power of the black sorcerers is growing very fast. Please pay attention to them right now when they only have weak spiders to defend themselves.

@Earcaraxe : I will for sure be able to build any earth item soon. But I do not care about fire gems. Maybe the same amount of astral ones ?

And finally @Grijalva : What do you want of the remnants of Ermor ?

[earcaraxe]

@Earcaraxe : I will for sure be able to build any earth item soon. But I do not care about fire gems. Maybe the same amount of astral ones ?



deal.

[Yonz]

@Ermor: You're army is getting weak, are you able to defend yourself? If not, consider our NAP3 broken starting from turn 22.

Oh but you're too late, sweetie, there isn't much pie left you know. You get a pat on the back for trying to get a slice, though.
Also, that is too bad because now I'll have to give my little parting gift to somebody else. Oh well. Easy come come easy go I suppose.

[earcaraxe]

@Earcaraxe : I will for sure be able to build any earth item soon. But I do not care about fire gems. Maybe the same amount of astral ones ?



deal.

i mean same as what? 20 pearls for the earth boots i consider a little expensive. 12 is my offer, or some other item on par with the boots.

Ozzy

[Num]

@Earcaraxe.
20 astral pearls is my best offer. I do not need any. Abysia need those boots, this is the cost of having poor craftsmen and being a barbarian nation of petty creatures :cool:.

[earcaraxe]

In your words there are some truth as well as foolish arrogance. I like that. However i dont need any boots now, but im looking for earth gems. I am offering fire gems or some death.

Ozzy

[earcaraxe]

Hey Giants!

I agree on the NAP5. I also accept your offer if it still stands.

the prince of rot and the little white worms

The conditions have changed since the time we offered this bounty months ago when we need aid most, Pan's army have been destroyed if you look at the score graph in these past months.

We would still offer 50 gems in random combinations of S/D/N for:

Capture of 3 forest provinces in the bottom right corner including capture of Pan's capital (somewhere in the forest or in (2)).

We've done the hard work of wiping out their current army, and you have a choice to be paid to expand your empire (including a capital with 5N income) at this point, a win-win situation.

We would also require a NAP 5 should you wish to take advantage of the offer.

Hi!

i got interested in ur offer. i wonder what the conditions exactly are.

the prince of baal-lair

To Abysia or Bandar Log,

The Jotuns offer a treasure of choice jewels: 30S, 30D and 40N for one thing: vengeance on Pangaeans, so that all may know that treachery on Jotuns carry repercussions. This is also an oppurtunity to gain land alongside a worthy bounty.

The treasure will be paid in installment based on various objective with the the goal of eventual destruction of Pans. A bonus 50 gem on top of the 100 base gem offer above will be paid on complete destruction of Pangaea, all of which will either be in S, D or N gems. Do let us know if you are interested.

-Council of Jarls

[Finalgenesis]

Excellent, happy hunting to Abysians. You may want to declare the NAP 3 cooldown with Pans.

Hey Giants!

I agree on the NAP5. I also accept your offer if it still stands.

the prince of rot and the little white worms

The conditions have changed since the time we offered this bounty months ago when we need aid most, Pan's army have been destroyed if you look at the score graph in these past months.

We would still offer 50 gems in random combinations of S/D/N for:

Capture of 3 forest provinces in the bottom right corner including capture of Pan's capital (somewhere in the forest or in (2)).

We've done the hard work of wiping out their current army, and you have a choice to be paid to expand your empire (including a capital with 5N income) at this point, a win-win situation.

We would also require a NAP 5 should you wish to take advantage of the offer.

Hi!

i got interested in ur offer. i wonder what the conditions exactly are.

the prince of baal-lair

[earcaraxe]

dear Pans!

u know what: summer brings heat. (turn 27)

Yours with respect,

Ozzy

[Lihaässä]

I've played my turn after a long weekend in Naples. Thanks for the delay!

[Num]

@ The Lord of Bandar Log Grijalva

I am really sorry for the encounter in the ermorian forest. I guessed you were not going that way for several months and I have asked you which province you were claiming, but you did not answered.
Anyway I renew this question : Which province(s) of this forest do you want ?

[Grijalva]

Vanheim,

Monkeys can be very unscrupulous diplomats, especially during the Banana Festival, the Banana Olympics, the Banana Special Olympics and so on... so your message was lost in all the poo-slinging and such, but no hard feelings about the fight :)

The Vanherse may settle in the Black Hills (129) and the Wood of Shadows (110) while the Monkey Army shall crush a petty group of Ermorian mages who think they are kings because they can summon an army of brittle undead on the Shores of Peace (105).

Also the Ermor-occupied Wymarech Mountains (112) are vital to Monkey-security and thus shall shortly be overrun by...monkeys

- Bater, Markata Scout Extraordinaire, Hall of Fame Leader, Prophet of Wu Kong

[Num]

I am glad you do not care about this misunderstanding.

I am happy to let you take control of Shores of Peace and Wymarech Mountains while I am invading Black Hills.
Though, you are doing most of the job in destroying the Ermor empire and his last crowded fortress. Let me know if you need something I can help for.

[Lihaässä]

I would humbly request turning into 48h hosting schedule. What about others?

[Num]

With all those gems, all those troops, all that money, all those fortresses and temples and rich provinces, all that knowledge, that seems wise :D.
24h is ok for now, 48h would be acceptable, if everybody would try to play as soon as possible.

[earcaraxe]

I would humbly request turning into 48h hosting schedule. What about others?

when one more vote arrives in favor of changing it to 48 i'll do it.

[Muse]

I would humbly request turning into 48h hosting schedule. What about others?

I shall support a 48 hour cycle; though it is somewhat early in the game, there seems to be significant close-proximity interplay.
And Krakens.

As a side note, I wonder if my coastal neighbors can see the sheer sodding *fun* I've been having.

[earcaraxe]

Lord of the arachnophiles!

So we share a border. Spider-web burns too fast and cold for my people to enjoy, so we can live and let live: I offer you a NAP3.

the master of warlocks from Abysia

[earcaraxe]

hosting interval is now 48hrs.

[earcaraxe]

Im looking to trade for (max 40) earth gems. I offer death or astral in exchange.

[earcaraxe]

Long live the memory of the brave and great general of Ermor who has fallen before the combined might of his enemies, but whose deeds can never be erased.

in the name of the mourning people of the stove

Ozzy

[BvG]

As a side note, I wonder if my coastal neighbors can see the sheer sodding *fun* I've been having.

Stop your slavering
krakens have to life free
not fun, bad and mean!

Longlived lovers.
we where not meant to be
Let the boots thunder


Translation:
What you call 'fun' is universally understood as perverted and wrong. I know a way your presence can be righted tho: NAP is off, and the first attacks will at the earliest be issued on turn 29.

[Finalgenesis]

To the world,

The Jarls of Jotun have entered into it's final phase of enacting vengeance against the treacherous Ulm and Pan. We annouce the Bloodfeud, that we shall bring our enemies into the twilight of history with us at all cost, so that all may know in future incarnations that trifling with us carries a heavy price.

We have held on against the onslaught of Ulm and Pan, yet the vast wastelands we call home cannot possibly support us for much longer. We can continue to hold to our defenses for now, though it is a matter of time before our fall.

To Vanheim,

We wish to make you an offer akin to those we gave to Abysia but on a far larger scale: Declare war and aid us in destroying Ulm, and we shall hand over our lands including our capital to you without a fight. We will also gift you with half of all our gems and equipment stock, which is very significant. All of these are yours upon the utter destruction of Ulm. With our help, you should fare well against Ulm, and not only would you gain his lands, but ours as well at the cost of a single campaign with our aid. We further note that Ulm isn't all that strong, neither Pan or them alone would have posed a threat, together Pan and Ulm does exceed our ability to overcome with our poor wastelands.

Finally as Ulm is situated in a corner and given your position, Ulm is certain to be a headache to you if they are allowed to live and expand down to the Eastern edge of the map (Enveloping you on the East with no one at his back).

Should you agree, we shall disclose more information on your request.

To Abysia,

Upon the destruction of Ulm and Pan, we will gift you with the other half of all our gems and equipment, which is far greater then the 50 gems you will get now. We will also gift you with the lands south of the wasteland to you (the larger north including our capital goes to Vanheim if they decide to aid us in our bloodfeud).

Should our offer to Van work out, we can offer more information.

To Any other neighbors of Ulm,

As we are not aware of any other neighbor of Ulm or their locations, we have not factor in an offer for your aid. Do contact us immediately so that I can amend my offer to Vanheim to include you.

-Circle of Jarls, Jotunheim

[Grijalva]

To all (except Ermor):

Bandar Log is willing to trade our Dgems for any Sgems that may be floating around out there (25+gems on a 1to1 ratio).


To Vanhiem:

If you should be willing to take Jotun's offer and attack Ulm, the Monkey Council is bananas about offering you an NAP5 or more with the aims of securing our flanks and promoting peace in the northern-mountains.

Also, could you please finish Ermor swiftly? Markatas will be pouring into his other fort this month and monkeys everywhere would rejoice if Ermor's dominion disappeared as quickly as possible. :)



- Bater, Markata Scout Extraordinaire, Hall of Fame Leader, Prophet of Wu Kong

[Yonz]

Ahh, the intrigues! Wish I could see more of that. :)

[Num]

@Bandar Log and Jotunheim
Let me think about that until friday. I will give you a reply.

@Bandar Log
I am going to destroy the rest of Ermor as quickly as possible (two, maybe three months max, depending on the siege).
I would like to maintain peace with you too.
I am interested in trading your death gems. I send you this month (well, tonight) the astral pearls I get (20-30 ?).

@Machaka
I am sorry that uncontrolled scouts are coming into your territory. I will hang the next one (or send a better one ?).

@Everybody
I am very lucky to find water gems everywhere, which I love, but do not use at all (This is for jellyfish I guess). If anyone wants some at a better than alchemy rate...

[Muse]

As a side note, I wonder if my coastal neighbors can see the sheer sodding *fun* I've been having.

Stop your slavering
krakens have to life free
not fun, bad and mean!

Longlived lovers.
we where not meant to be
Let the boots thunder


Translation:
What you call 'fun' is universally understood as perverted and wrong. I know a way your presence can be righted tho: NAP is off, and the first attacks will at the earliest be issued on turn 29.

Oh dear. This is troubling. And saddening! The Star Children were just beginning to enjoy their sand-castles. I suppose they'll have more sand now, at least.

To clarify, however-- the Krakens are free, quite free. As are their sea troll companions.
The fun I was referring to was of the most sarcastic kind: I've been attacked ostensibly by what amounts to over 100 water gems worth of teleporting armies, complete with mage support. (From the beginning of the game.)

This in addition to the map creator's especial fetish for krakens, triton troopers, and other stealthy magical surprises in independent provinces.

Not that this will prevent us from delivering a most delicious tea to our un-kraken neighbors.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To Abysia, care of Ozzy:

It would appear that there is to be a particularly high-pitch squealing on the Goblin side of your port-- The Rippled Sea would like to cordially invite you to attend.
There is a Victory Point that we do not particularly care for, in addition to other delicious fortressy treats.

Provided you are not already busy with the hordes of naked women! *cuteface*
'Tis only an invitation, we would not be miffed if you declined.

[BvG]

To Abysia, care of Ozzy:

It would appear that there is to be a particularly high-pitch squealing on the Goblin side of your port-- The Rippled Sea would like to cordially invite you to attend.

Ah but when I don't attack you, I attack them as my only other neighbour instead. When you're dealt with however, I can freely march over ermor, or whoever is bordering you to the east... maybe even together with abysia? and they won't ever need to wet their flamboyant feet!

[mscfish]

I'm going for a vacation for somedays till Oct 5th,i'm not sure for that i can send in the turn files on time(I'll try my best),so I request 120-hours turning schedule untill Oct 5th.
Thanks!

[arnob]

@Bandar Log and Jotunheim
Let me think about that until friday. I will give you a reply.


I'm also interested by your decision :-)

Arnob, god of metal stuff

[earcaraxe]

interval changed to 120hrs. please mscfish tell me to change back when u come back.

[Num]

Everybody is going out for the weekend (mscfish has played his turn and said he will try to play) ? A weekend begun on wednesday ?!!?

[earcaraxe]

mscfish asked for the delay and im not motivated to check players individually if they sent in their turn or not, thats why i made the interval 120 hrs.

[arnob]

mscfish asked for the delay and im not motivated to check players individually if they sent in their turn or not, thats why i made the interval 120 hrs.

I'm also on week end until sunday evening (GMT+1)

Arnob

[earcaraxe]

Dear Pans!

I offer u a brand new, better NAP3. I think we both would gain more from growing in peace than massacring each other in war. what do u say?

Ozzy of abysia

[Lihaässä]

I accept your NAP 3 proposal

Lord of the arachnophiles!

So we share a border. Spider-web burns too fast and cold for my people to enjoy, so we can live and let live: I offer you a NAP3.

the master of warlocks from Abysia

@Muse, grant me the northern provinces and a safe passage to lands of Goblins and I shall help you to drown them for good.

[Yonz]

Announcement: since there's nothing left of my forces whatsoever, I'm going AI this turn. Thanks for your attention.

[earcaraxe]

Announcement: since there's nothing left of my forces whatsoever, I'm going AI this turn. Thanks for your attention.

thanks for playing with us!

[earcaraxe]

I'm willin to trade for earth gems, i can offer any combination of fire, air, astral and death.

The hot-headed hottie: Ozzy

[Grijalva]

Announcement: since there's nothing left of my forces whatsoever, I'm going AI this turn. Thanks for your attention.


Dear Yonz,

Thanks for playing man! GG

funny side-note: I would have never gone to war with you but for that group of vestals that you moved to our border one turn. Having not heard from you about my NAP3 offer, I decided to move my main army to the border as a precaution. After your forces didn't attack, I thought "well, my army's already there, so...." :smirk:

[Num]

Hi,
@Arnob, Great Enchantress of Ulm, I am very sad to announce you that we are are going to fight each other. May the most noble and valiant win.
It was obvious to go to war sooner or later.

@Grijalva, lord of Bandar Log, you can say you have a northeast border secured with me, I accept to upgrade the NAP to 5 turns delay. In addition, I sent you all the gems I could (in exchange of death ones). Maybe you will want some more soon ?

@Finalgenesis, lord of Jotuns, I will not save you in time. I help you only because of the fate of my position with Ulm, but it will probably be too late for you...

@Yonz, lord of Ermor, sorry to have helped to bury your nation. Thanks for playing with us :).

[Yonz]

@Grijalva
Bummer. My moving there was purely preemptive (as was yours, apparently), and it ended in utter disaster. Ambiguous manouvres ftw. <_<
Thanks for the thumbs up, though. No hard feelings from my side, despite the brutal blitz. I really underestimated the power of your forces - I thought vestals would make short work of your monkeys and would be able to stand toe to toe with Tiger Riders so I eagerly deployed them. What a blunder! They seem to work fine against indies, but vs. other sacreds they just don't cut it.

Ehh, looking back I don't think I could've pulled off anything that could save my arse anyway after the war had begun. I'll try to keep good neighbourly relations next time. :)

@Num
No hard feelings mate. I would've seized such an opportunity too. ;)

[Finalgenesis]

@Num
Our army size make a deceptive indicator of our remaining strength, we will yet hold on.

And yes we made the offer knowing exactly the geographic considerations for you, hence heaping on a *little* more incentive on top.

Given the changes to Abysia, we confirm that on the utter destruction of Ulm you'll receive the promised half armory/gem hoard + capital and it's everything north from it. Should we actually fall before that happen's we'll send you the promised half the month before our immediate demise.

@All

I still have the other half of my armory and gem reserves plus another nice fort directly south of capital earmarked for the destruction of Pangaeans.

[BvG]

Hi
Unfortunately there is no Internet in my vacation Place. I was Promissed thered Be. I Need a Substitute or posponement until sunday. Sent from someones iPhone whom i gave fifty bucks.

Whoever PlayStation me: please make Sire to Not Horribly Loose the war with rhyl'e that Starts at 29. Or was it 39?

Sorry for this horrible Missmatch
BVG shinujama or similar.

[mscfish]

Dear Pans!

I offer u a brand new, better NAP3. I think we both would gain more from growing in peace than massacring each other in war. what do u say?

Ozzy of abysia

The wheel of war is running,and it can't stop.
Get ready to feel the power of green woods.



Ps:I am back from the vacation,and i can play in time as usual.
Thanks for the delaying!

Pangaea mscfish

[earcaraxe]

Hi
Unfortunately there is no Internet in my vacation Place. I was Promissed thered Be. I Need a Substitute or posponement until sunday. Sent from someones iPhone whom i gave fifty bucks.

Whoever PlayStation me: please make Sire to Not Horribly Loose the war with rhyl'e that Starts at 29. Or was it 39?

Sorry for this horrible Missmatch
BVG shinujama or similar.

next turn is due at sunday 18:50 GMT.

[earcaraxe]

Dear Pans!

I offer u a brand new, better NAP3. I think we both would gain more from growing in peace than massacring each other in war. what do u say?

Ozzy of abysia

The wheel of war is running,and it can't stop.
Get ready to feel the power of green woods.



Ps:I am back from the vacation,and i can play in time as usual.
Thanks for the delaying!

Pangaea mscfish

cool. leaves burn well.

[arnob]

Hi,
@Arnob, Great Enchantress of Ulm, I am very sad to announce you that we are are going to fight each other. May the most noble and valiant win.
It was obvious to go to war sooner or later.


@Num : It was expected I think ...

@earcaraxe and mscfish : I think we could run a long term alliance in ordre to stand about the mighty nations of Shinuyama, Bandar log and Machaka. What do you think ?

Arnob

[Finalgenesis]

To clarify, our offer of half our lifeblood or any sort of bounty for those who contract to destroy Pangaea does not apply to those who have previously reneged and broken their commitment to aiding us in our blood vengeance.

The Jotuns are a hardy, straigth forward folk and views fickleness and insincerity harshly. On another note, we apologize on any vandalism our folks have committed on your embassy here in Jotunheim.

Dear Pans!

I offer u a brand new, better NAP3. I think we both would gain more from growing in peace than massacring each other in war. what do u say?

Ozzy of abysia

The wheel of war is running,and it can't stop.
Get ready to feel the power of green woods.



Ps:I am back from the vacation,and i can play in time as usual.
Thanks for the delaying!

Pangaea mscfish

cool. leaves burn well.

[Lihaässä]

@ Muse, still waiting your answer about the war with the Goblins?

[Grijalva]

@ Num, would you like to trade another 30 S gems for my D gems this turn? If so, let me know and I'll send em right over, 20 gems would also be acceptable.

[Grijalva]

@everyone

I'm also willing to trade my death gems for water, earth and/or nature.

Thanks

[Num]

I think I do not have enough astral gems available. But I am interested for the next turn or the one after. I will say you.

[Muse]

@Muse, grant me the northern provinces and a safe passage to lands of Goblins and I shall help you to drown them for good.

@ Muse, still waiting your answer about the war with the Goblins?

Oh! Apologies, I missed this.

At this juncture, I must decline-- a secession of that territory is inadvisable at the moment, and I do not require any aid in particular.

[arnob]

Dear Pans!

I offer u a brand new, better NAP3. I think we both would gain more from growing in peace than massacring each other in war. what do u say?

Ozzy of abysia

The wheel of war is running,and it can't stop.
Get ready to feel the power of green woods.



Ps:I am back from the vacation,and i can play in time as usual.
Thanks for the delaying!

Pangaea mscfish

Dear Pangaea mscfish,

I would like to know what is your futur plan about the north of your territory ?
For my part, I am ready to continue our alliance on an indefinite duration ...

Arnob

[Num]

@Grijalva
You owe me the death gems in exchange of the astral ones I sent you turns ago (Something like 20).
I cannot finish Ermor remnants (not enough troops to besiege his fortress, I just lost 6 months without any success), you should finish him off yourself and take all the provinces in the forest.
And, at last, it is possible that your northern border will be unsecure sooner or later, but it will not depend on me :o.
Sorry for the bad news...

[mscfish]

Dear Pans!

I offer u a brand new, better NAP3. I think we both would gain more from growing in peace than massacring each other in war. what do u say?

Ozzy of abysia

The wheel of war is running,and it can't stop.
Get ready to feel the power of green woods.



Ps:I am back from the vacation,and i can play in time as usual.
Thanks for the delaying!

Pangaea mscfish

Dear Pangaea mscfish,

I would like to know what is your futur plan about the north of your territory ?
For my part, I am ready to continue our alliance on an indefinite duration ...

Arnob

Greetings ULM
Pangaea also like continue our alliance on an indefinite duration.

Pangaea mscfish

[Grijalva]

@num

I'm sorry, I thought I had sent you those gems, but I guess not. I just spent a significant portion of my dgems. So I will send you 5per turn starting now, if this puts a serious dent in your strategy then say so and maybe I can help out some other way in order to compensate for the delay.

Actually, I was about to say something RE Ermor, since his god just broke free and scared off the handful of markatas that 1pd gets me at the old Ermorian capital ---but really his strong dominion has been bothering me. So thanks for being reasonable.

Sorry to hear that the war is going poorly. Are you also at war with Machacka? I noticed you two have no NAP3...

[Num]

My strategy has ****ed up for other reasons :(. Those gems are no big deal. Thanks.

Sorry for the last Ermor fortress, thanks for the help.

Machaka is looking at other lands (South, to Shinuyama territories ?). We only share a small borderline in the far north, nobody actually wants to get there, until now...

[Num]

@Finalgenesis
There is nothing left between your lands and the capital of Ulm. The only Ulm effective army is in my territory and I take care of it (well, I hope I will do so).
Feel free to take any land you want in the way to Raktimoh Forest.

[Finalgenesis]

Greetings to Vanheim,

Understood, we are currently camping outside Jaurtal (98), or rather I should say a lone giant from of our surviving band.

We wish you luck in extermination of Ulm, after which our capital and lands north of it are yours.

[Grijalva]

Bandar Log is willing to trade air/nature gems for s-gems on a 1/1 basis, but in relatively small amounts (5-10 for each kind)

[Num]

@Grijalva
I am interested in your air gems (as well as death ones) in exchange of astral ones. May I send you some astrals (10 or 15) this turn ? In addition, do you still need water gems ?

[Lihaässä]

@Num I'll take your offer.. I'll you send this turn 20A gems if you send me this turn 20S gems. Agreed?

I'll play the turn today before 21.00 +2GMT. If you cannot answer before that we can do the change next turn.

[Num]

Deal ! I do that right now this turn.
In addition, maybe you can make those spiders in Near Kheled go far away from me ? ;)

[Lihaässä]

Done! 20A gems sent. The spiders however won't move. Instead you could show good faith and give that territory to me since it doesn't link to your lands anyway ;)

[Num]

Hmme, this small and poor province does not fit well with all your rich and wealthy lands. It is cold, unhealthy, unwelcome, you will be disappointed for sure. Anyway, I expect having a link to it soon, what is standing in between will be destroyed in a matter of time.

[Finalgenesis]

Trading up to 20D for 20N

[Lihaässä]

@Muse You seem to be losing your provinces continuously to the Goblins. I'm willing to compensate with gems and cash for the provinces that are on my way. You could have the southern provinces of Goblins while I'll take control of northwest. What say you? Are we on this together?

@Num All my lands are rich and wealthy, that is true. That province holds me no real value unless you're planning to plant a fort on top of that. In that case I would see the province as a threat. It would be better to hand the province to me and let me to show my good will by handing some of those Air gems to you. What do you say? I offer you also a NAP3 if you're willing to take my offer.

[arnob]

Hmme, this small and poor province does not fit well with all your rich and wealthy lands. It is cold, unhealthy, unwelcome, you will be disappointed for sure. Anyway, I expect having a link to it soon, what is standing in between will be destroyed in a matter of time.

@All :
I looking for an ally for my war against the people of Vanheim. His army is currently occupied in the north west of the map and I guess the other boundaries are pretty defenseless !

Moreover he can't recruit on his capital because the unrest is above 100 and he has only one other fortress ...

Arnob !

[Num]

Hop hop hop hurry !!

@Lihaassa
I do not want (afford ?) to build anything here. I give you this province (don't remember the number nor name, the far western of all of mines). I let you offer the price you want in air gems (Be very generous ! Rich people cannot be stingy, and air gems are common in the wastes of Vanheim). I accept your NAP3.
Would you like stop patrolling in the isthmus for a while ? My scholars would love to see (and admire) your beautiful lands...

@Arnob
You can surrender any time you want. A brief war will be less suffering and devastation. It would be better for sure.
Je suis sincèrement désolé qu'on soit obligé de se battre ensemble jusqu'au bout. Mais vu nos positions, il n'y a vraiment aucune autre issue...

[arnob]

Hop hop hop hurry !!


@Arnob
You can surrender any time you want. A brief war will be less suffering and devastation. It would be better for sure.
Je suis sincèrement désolé qu'on soit obligé de se battre ensemble jusqu'au bout. Mais vu nos positions, il n'y a vraiment aucune autre issue...

Je vois que vous parlez Français :-)

I do not agree: about is the winner of our war, he will be swept by the other powers later. For the moment we are both losers.

I can extend by the North if you leave me the accesses. I shall want to propose you the following clauses:
- You leave me the access by the North of mountains : All territories on the north of your castle.
- I restore you the territories of your side of the river
- I stop to unrest your capital
- We make a NAP10 (without the necessary exchange of territories of course)

Think about this proposal, it's the only way for both of us to stay in this game at long-term

Arnob

[Lihaässä]

I've played now turn 33 and sent it to the server. I'm not able to play the new turn (34) before sunday evening - could I get a 24h delay?
Thanks!

@Num I glad you accepted the nap. I'll send you some A gems this turn. Are you willing to trade more S gems for some other gems?

[Muse]

@Muse You seem to be losing your provinces continuously to the Goblins. I'm willing to compensate with gems and cash for the provinces that are on my way. You could have the southern provinces of Goblins while I'll take control of northwest. What say you? Are we on this together?

Your offer is quite worthy, and accepted! The north and west are yours, I shall take the coast and south.

For the northern provinces that we currently hold, we would wish a sum of Earth Gems--however many you can spare, though twenty would be a great boon.

Be advised: Shinuyama has an army headed to those provinces at this very moment, the far north. (Within reach of Last Retreat by next turn, likely.)
His armies under the waves we project will fare less well.


To clarify: We will still require the coastline that we posses currently. It is unlikely that Shinuyama will capture it.

This arrangement should create a lovely funnel directly into his heart, while his coast is raided.

[earcaraxe]

All fear the mighty Slokad, champion of swords and magic! :D

[earcaraxe]

I've played now turn 33 and sent it to the server. I'm not able to play the new turn (34) before sunday evening - could I get a 24h delay?
Thanks!

@Num I glad you accepted the nap. I'll send you some A gems this turn. Are you willing to trade more S gems for some other gems?

delayed

[Num]

@Arnob
I agree with you, we are weakening each other in this war, and there is probably other ways. But I cannot stop right now, and we all need to fight, to get losses and lose time and energy. Anyway, my goal is not to win the game, I only try to survive, there are other player in a better place to win.

@Lihaassa
5 air gems for a province ? You get 70 every turn and you gave me 5 ?!? Please reconsider your gift.
I do not have enough astral gems to trade on a regular basis.

[BvG]

@Muse You seem to be losing your provinces continuously to the Goblins. I'm willing to compensate with gems and cash for the provinces that are on my way. You could have the southern provinces of Goblins while I'll take control of northwest. What say you? Are we on this together?

Your offer is quite worthy, and accepted!

Oh dear, and I so hoped to start attacking you while I siege the sea castle, not before it.

[Lihaässä]

@Muse - I'll send you E gems in nearby future - if you wish so we could settle this matter with one dwarfish hammer. Is this what you want?

@Num 5A gems is a gesture of my good will.. a province with 20gold income/month doesn't really meet the payment. The province holds no real value. I'm willing to send you 5 additional Air gems but in addition I wish for trade of S gems. Is this ok with you?

[Finalgenesis]

@Vanheim

Intel: Ulm has a 200ish unit army recovering lost territories currently at Thardun (106) in the immediate north of Jaurtal (98). The composition in order of abundance: 10 guardians, 31 black plate pike, more normal pikes and mostly crossbowman/sappers. There's also a dark lord commander with fire brand, vine shield and luck amulet. For caster there are 3 master smith with 2 earth boots and a bag of air.

[Num]

@Lihaassa
I bet that this province is full of magical and powerful sites, which will provide you incredible mages and lot of gems. it is easy worth the 10 gems (I hoped you gave something like 20 or 25, more as a diplomatic gift !:)).
As I already said, I cannot trade astral gems on a regular basis. And Grijalva is asking too for it. I will let you know both as soon as I get something like 20...

@Finalgenesis
This army is the one which has travelled in my lands for several months. It turned back to evade, will be reinforced by some more Smiths next turn then will probably attack again... I am preparing myself against it. Thanks. Do not bother with it.

[Muse]

@Muse - I'll send you E gems in nearby future - if you wish so we could settle this matter with one dwarfish hammer. Is this what you want?

The raw gems shall be sufficient at this juncture, thank you for the forging offer though.

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As a side note, now that I view the turn-- I do not need assistance underwater, regardless of whether Shinuyama temporarily holds the province while I move to reclaim it.
Any Machakan holdings under the waves will be forfeit once the ever-so-slow repatriation army arrives at its destination.

[Finalgenesis]

Jotunheim has an abundance of D gems, we seek 10F and 20N respectively, alternatively we can offer 2 virgins per gem, including blood hunt rods priced at 5 virgins.