Rock the Cradle--Noob Only! (RUNNING)

[13lackGu4rd]

in other news, it's real nice that you guys actually said what the decision was... I was refraining from making my new turn until I heard whether we're rolling back again or not, and now I see that the game hosted.

also "Reminder: Rock_the_Cradle hosting in around 2 hours" 2 hours, really??? yeah, like that helped, especially when these 2 hours were when I was still sleeping...

[Colonial]

****, didn't notace you had stalled. My oppologies.

I postponed the game 24 hours. that is probably what caused the strange 2 hour notification.

[Nosantee]

in other news, it's real nice that you guys actually said what the decision was... I was refraining from making my new turn until I heard whether we're rolling back again or not, and now I see that the game hosted.

also "Reminder: Rock_the_Cradle hosting in around 2 hours" 2 hours, really??? yeah, like that helped, especially when these 2 hours were when I was still sleeping...

Since a stale is always really bad at this point in the game, we could always have a roll back... You know... For you :3

Also: Someone in the chat was kind enough to explain globals and dispelling. Essentially its only the amount of gems and levels over the base that matters

I cast...
Arcane Nexus with a S8 Mage at 171 Pearls
Global Power = 21
Pangaea Cast...
Carrion woods with a N? mage at (#>90) Nature Gems
Global Power = Over 21

Therefore, his global easily erased mine. I don't feel as bad now knowing that there is a system. But God DAMN that sucks. There goes 171 pearls for nothing. The lessons this game teaches sometimes are brutal. Lesson learned. Don't save all your gems for many many turns, then convert them into pearls for a global.

[13lackGu4rd]

yeah I was the 1 to explain it to you, was just wrong with the mage level into additional gems bonus. and no, I don't want a rollback just for me, just for 1 stale, but I know you were cynic about it so I forgive you :P

[Nosantee]

And keep your freaky deaky hippy paws out of my land!!

[earwicker7]

And keep your freaky deaky hippy paws out of my land!!

That's not nearly as bad as the one you did on me... you actually gained units, you freak of nature lol.

It's amazing to see the difference between first and second MP games... I've learned a lot from my first (this one) because of all the horrible, horrible mistakes I've made, which makes my second game much stronger. Still, I see new things every day; this game has a whale of a learning curve.

[earwicker7]

D'oh! Sorry about the stale... I've got extra kids staying over, so I missed the reminder email. Honestly, it can't make much difference, as I've only got a few units left, but I still feel badly about it.

[Colonial]

one stall this whole game really isn't bad. sorry to hear about you're military plight...

[CthulhuDreams]

So Iyae has arcane nexus up. It might be a good idea to give me gems to dispel it? Certainly, he is extremely dangerous with a delicious combo of Arcane Nexus AND the steel ovens :)

[Colonial]

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[Nosantee]

Damn guys did you have to do your turns so fast? I have a massive amount of stuff to do each turn and I was hoping for a two day break --;;

[Nosantee]

Alright guys something big just occured in my life and I wont be able to continue this game. I'm terribly sorry but I've got to drop out as I no-longer have the time (and possibly the ability to access) for the game

I'll try to find a sub as quickly as I can. How hard can this one be right? Haha

[Korwin]

Well Shinujama is finally dead (took long enough) so I would be available...

[Nosantee]

Well Shinujama is finally dead (took long enough) so I would be available...

If you want it take it. Just ask Colonial.

[Korwin]

Could you PM me your diplomatic Status and your planned for strategy?

[Colonial]

Im happy with Korwin subbing Nosantee. You just helped us out with a failed empire, you deserve being rewarded with a very strong one. I assume you to can work out the passwords and that between the two of you. shall I change the email address?

I'm sorry to hear about the real life F***up Nosantee. Can't say you didn't have a brillient run of it in this game though. I look forward to challenging you again if and when you ever show back up in dom3 land.

On another note I would be up for taking a 24 hour hietus. I've just joined a sprawling, vicious, strangling match. Also Korwin will have to get use to wielding the light blue gient. so what do people say to an extrodinary 24 hour postponement? (maybe even 48 at this late hour.)

[nrasch]

I'm fine w/ a postponement, so you can get organized.

Also, welcome back and thanks for taking over the spot on such short notice.

Nathan

[Korwin]

Deadline is 16:15 9th Feb. (at the moment)
Extension would be good. 6 hours should be enough (to do the turn after work).
Llamaserver started working again, but its late here... (need my sleep ;) )

[Colonial]

Email updated, and turn postponed 24 hours.

[Korwin]

Holy ****, I'm impressed. Hopefully I can hold Nosantes Niveau...

[Nosantee]

Holy ****, I'm impressed. Hopefully I can hold Nosantes Niveau...

Haha yeah my apologies. I really should have stressed the utter amount of effort and time you're going to have to put into it. MA Arco is one of the most micro and macro intensive nations. You've got to keep everything correct and prepped and the smallest error is going to cost you an entire army/fort/ten provinces, etc.

Thats why I love Arco, its a real challenge!

[Colonial]

Incidently, the two of you just took out a fully kitted Rudra with frozen heart spam :'(

Bastards...

[Korwin]

Nosantes doing, he scripted. (At least I dont remember changing scripts to Frozen heart spam)

[13lackGu4rd]

to be honest, it's your fault Colonial if you let Rudras die to Frozen Heart spam... so easy to defend against.

[Colonial]

Yeah, true enough. thought I could get a way with cold resist 50... I guess noob games are all about learning. Next rudra gets a rime haubark :)

[Korwin]

Sent an Present to Anthrax, tell me how he liked it...

[Colonial]

Poor anthrax :(

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wait ... um ... dude? I haven't turned my turn in yet. I could just move him...

might want to change you're turn...

[Korwin]

Doesnt matter Magic is before Movement. :)
And even if it would be otherwise, then you would not know what the present was...

[nrasch]

Presents??? Is it your birthday?!?!

GRATS!

[Korwin]

Btw. I don't think Anthrax will die (this time)...

[Colonial]

Lol,

true enough, and fair play. I reckon the big fella could take an arrow from the sky at this stage...

totally double checking his combat orders though.

maybe it'll be ghouls :D

[Colonial]

Right. I was thinking it was due tomorrow night not tonight. unilaterally granting myself an extension here. 18 hours should be tomorrow night...

Perks of being admin. sorry lads :P

[13lackGu4rd]

I don't mind you granting yourself extensions like that, as long as it's just extensions and not another rollback or something bigger. also, while you're at it, can you please update us on who plays what nation? the first post in this thread is outdated and earcaraxe doesn't seem to bother fixing it, so can you please post the updated information?

[Colonial]

Right, can't change the first post, but for now, and whenever you want to go back to page 50-whatever for some outdated information:


Abyssia - earwicker7
Arcoscephale - Korwin
Bandar Log - Colonial
Marignon - 13lackGu4rd
Pangaea - nrasch
R'yleh - CthulhuDreams

Atlantis Dead
Man Dead
Shinuyama Dead
Vanheim Dead

[earwicker7]

earcaraxe doesn't seem to bother fixing it

All you had to do was ask...

[Colonial]

Incidently, seems there's really someone on these forums called 'earcaraxe'. did you used to know that guy and are playing with the names or what?

[earwicker7]

Incidently, seems there's really someone on these forums called 'earcaraxe'. did you used to know that guy and are playing with the names or what?

No, I thought he was referring to me and I just didn't get the joke lol. Never heard of the guy.

"Earwicker" is from "Finnegans Wake" by James Joyce; "7" is just a lucky number.

[Korwin]

I feel so dumb, I should read the spell description... :(

[Colonial]

Must say, I'm feeling a little time constrained, and we can't have more than a year or two left in the game. I vote for 36 hour turns.

what do yous reckon?

[Korwin]

I say, we allready are at 36 hour turns. :)
Do you want an 48 hour turnaround?

Edit: Looked at the wrong game...
We are allready at 48 hours per turn. Dont want more time between turns...

[Colonial]

which ever one is 3 days...

36 hours is the one that starts with 3, see how I could get confused?

yeah, I meant 72 hours :S

[Colonial]

another self-extension for you all, seems I'm going out this evening, instead of spending it in front of dominions...

Looks like Korwin will also thank me for this one.

so yeah, i reckon at least 2.5 days is in order. If no one objects I'll change it next turn

[Korwin]

Looks like I'm in war with all other players.

If someone wants to stab someone in the back. Do it they are all at war with me :)

[13lackGu4rd]

your nexus got dispelled once, than instead of seeing the hint and letting it go you put it back up. sorry but you invited this onto yourself(well, your predecessor did, but you're not even trying to change the situation), in fact you've just made it worse.

[Korwin]

So Marignon was behind the dispell? Why did you not dispell R'ley's Forge of the Ancients instead?
Since R'ley is/was allready at war with me...

Not bringing up the Nexus would habe been an admission of weakness. :D

[13lackGu4rd]

no, I was not behind the dispel, just giving you the picture as you seem to fail to get it on your own. and no, not putting back the nexus wouldn't be a sign of weakness, it will be a sign of someone who learns from his(or in this case, his predecessor's) mistakes and knows how to adapt to the situation at hand.

so anyway, you made your choice, can't go back now, all you can do now is eat the meal you've cooked.

[Korwin]

To be honest, one more player at war with me...
Who cares? ;)
4 or 5 whats the difference?

[Colonial]

On a lighter note, I do get a kick out of Korwin's rambo mystic worriars (that he got from the rollback issue). anyone else encountered these formidable creatures? :D

they're even significantly faster than the peltasts, so they always hit first. it's brilliant.

[Korwin]

In honor of the Tentacled horrors who took the game ending Arcane Nexus from me, I'll offer all nations who are at war with me (with the exception of R'ley) peace.

The fish now controll Arcane Nexus AND Forge of the Ancients.
If you take my offer please post here before the turn hosts, and get the f u c k out of my lands, break of all sieges of my forts and I will do the same.
I wont give back land and dont want you to give me back land.

[Colonial]

ALL RIGHT, which one of you cheeky monkeys stole my rhaux?!?

50 bloody fire gems I wount be seeing again. sneeky, cheeky, bastards...

[CthulhuDreams]

In honor of the Tentacled horrors who took the game ending Arcane Nexus from me, I'll offer all nations who are at war with me (with the exception of R'ley) peace.

The fish now controll Arcane Nexus AND Forge of the Ancients.
If you take my offer please post here before the turn hosts, and get the f u c k out of my lands, break of all sieges of my forts and I will do the same.
I wont give back land and dont want you to give me back land.

I will just point out that, yes, I do have both - I also don't have 1/3? 1/2? of the map, and we've both been clamming (Iyae for longer than me) so it's entirely possible that Korwin is still more powerful.

Graphs off make it hard to judge.

Mostly because I have no that much turf, and whoever cast Armageddon wrecked my income still further.

Still, with 4 big powers left in the game (Marigon, Bandar Log, Arco and now myself) things are going to get spicy.

[Korwin]

I think Pangea wants to continue the war (turn submitted - no message)
I'll wait for an peace or war message before submitting my turn...

[Korwin]

I will just point out that, yes, I do have both - I also don't have 1/3? 1/2? of the map, and we've both been clamming (Iyae for longer than me) so it's entirely possible that Korwin is still more powerful.

Graphs off make it hard to judge.

Mostly because I have no that much turf, and whoever cast Armageddon wrecked my income still further.

Still, with 4 big powers left in the game (Marigon, Bandar Log, Arco and now myself) things are going to get spicy.

You did carve a lot of space out of my empire.
And as long as I'm preoccupied with the others, I really don't want to mess with your numerous SC's.

The others should know, that as long as they are at war with me, they are directly helping the hentai faction ;)

On further thought, as long as nobody took me up on my offer.
I could imagine an alliance with Big R against the rest of the world.
How about an assurance to cast arcane Nexus? (from me)

[CthulhuDreams]

I will just point out that, yes, I do have both - I also don't have 1/3? 1/2? of the map, and we've both been clamming (Iyae for longer than me) so it's entirely possible that Korwin is still more powerful.

Graphs off make it hard to judge.

Mostly because I have no that much turf, and whoever cast Armageddon wrecked my income still further.

Still, with 4 big powers left in the game (Marigon, Bandar Log, Arco and now myself) things are going to get spicy.

You did carve a lot of space out of my empire.
And as long as I'm preoccupied with the others, I really don't want to mess with your numerous SC's.

The others should know, that as long as they are at war with me, they are directly helping the hentai faction ;)

On further thought, as long as nobody took me up on my offer.
I could imagine an alliance with Big R against the rest of the world.
How about an assurance to cast arcane Nexus? (from me)

You've already killed a few of them, don't talk yourself down so much :)

[Korwin]

I did?

[Colonial]

yeah, arcoscephale has conquored man and shinuyama. you know about the shinuyama situation I'm sure.

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Whether I am a great power is margenal at this stage, In alot of ways my newbyness is catching up with me.

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And whoever else is hitting the elemantal royals should seriously pm me, so that we can organise who has what and not have any more failed castings. I promise I won't be mad :P.

[nrasch]

Yes, this is why you don't see a peace message from me:

"yeah, arcoscephale has conquored man and shinuyama. you know about the shinuyama situation I'm sure."

Man and Shinuyama were my allies, and I just can't agree to let you have all of their combined lands and the castle you took from me two turns ago.

Make another offer other than full retreat on my side, and we can certainly talk about peace.

Pangaea

[Korwin]

sending turn in, before P&P RPG session starts...

[13lackGu4rd]

I need a 24 hour extension for this turn, thanks.

[Korwin]

Ahhhh not done. Did i postphone LastRites?

[Korwin]

Sorry for your stall, I apparently saw your reqest after the Game hosted (I then postphoned the last rites game - where I'm the admin, came back saw its the wrong game, turned back and reversed the change for the last rites game).

At least I'm not the admin for this game, so I don't need to wash my head in ash...

[13lackGu4rd]

yeah it's not your fault, nothing you could have done. I also PMed earwicker beyond posting here, and it still wasn't enough, but oh well...

[earwicker7]

Well, everyone, I've had to come to a fairly painful decision about continuing to play Dominions. It's flat out the second-best game I've ever played, with #1 being Demon's Souls. I love playing it; in fact, I'd say I'm addicted to it... and therein lies the problem.

When I started playing the game, I had a lot of free time. My job is somewhat seasonal... I'm employed full-time, year-round, but the company I work with runs two music venues; from fall to spring, we run a 2,000 seat hall, but in the summer, we run an 18,000 seat outdoor venue. Basically, since I started playing in late summer/early fall, I usually had at least a couple of hours of downtime each day at work to play the game (my boss is cool like that). But for the last two weeks, I've rarely had more than ten or fifteen minutes, and as summer kicks in full-swing, that will go down to zero.

If I weren't a single parent, that probably wouldn't be an issue, but I only have about half an hour of free-time during the week, and sometimes none at all. It's at the point where I've been waking up an hour earlier than normal to try to squeeze in turns, and even then, it's tight. I'm also writing a novel right now, and I realized that, because of Dominions taking up all my free-time, I've only written one page in the last two weeks.

The final straw for me was looking at this turn, and knowing that I still had at least half an hour to an hour's worth of play before I finished it, but had no time before the deadline to do it. For a brief minute, I thought to myself, "You know, maybe I don't really need to go to my daughter's orientation meeting about her upcoming first year in junior high." I realized I was getting ready to put the game before family, and that's when I decided that this game is so time-consuming that it's interfering with my life.

So I'm going to have to bow out of Dominions for the time being. I'll miss it... horribly so. I honestly thought this was a game I'd play for years, but real life isn't allowing it. Maybe I'll be able to come back at the end of the summer.

My position in this game is totally hopeless... I have about 100 gold income per turn, no pretender, and only a handful of troops in my castle. I think it is best to go AI, but if you guys want me to find a sub, let me know.

I'll miss you guys :(

[Colonial]

Ah, sounds like I tough decision there man, but glad to see you are putting you're kids first.

remember the game is always there if your life gets boring again ;). I'm vaguely trying to detach from PBEM myself, it's not easy.

and yeah, I reckon Abi should probably be put to AI...

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Right, I'm also being a sh*te admin at the moment, I'm on vacation and don't really have time to check the boards. do any of you fancy taking over the admining until the 12th (when I'm back on my own computer)? alternatively we could do a perminant 12 hour increase to the time...

My appologies for the stale

[nrasch]

@earwicker7: We'll miss you too man. However, putting your family first is totally the right thing to do.

[Korwin]

Can do, I'll take over Admin duties until your vacations end.

[Colonial]

Ah brilliant. thanks Korwin.

I take it you still remember the password.

[Korwin]

I do, indeed :)

[Colonial]

hey guys,

I'm back at home and able to both admin the game and not stall anymore. thanks for looking after it Korwin.

[Korwin]

no Problem

[13lackGu4rd]

guys, I can't seem to keep up with my position and I'm doing a horrible injustice to it these past few turns. I did take a pretty bad position(well map position was fine, anything else was horrible) after all and worked hard on fixing it. now the position is perfectly playable and even winnable if whoever takes it will have the time to spend on each turn and is not a complete newbie.

I'm afraid I don't have this time anymore, with uni kicking in harder and me getting preoccupied with other things. this is the last dom game I'm left with, and I need to detach entirely for a while until I can get my mind back into it. so please find a sub for me. sorry guys, and good luck to everyone.

[jimbojones1971]

I'm potentially interested, but need to know a bit more before jumping in (# of provinces, etc). Maybe someone could give me a brief intro?

[13lackGu4rd]

I can give you all the information you'll ever want, including my strategic plan, what I was going to do from here on if I had the time, etc. keep in mind that we're in the late game already, with most people(including Marignon) having all research complete, so each turn(if done properly) should take a good amount of time to do. if you're interested and have the time than PM me with some specific questions you have on your mind and I'll answer them and add more information.

[Colonial]

So, if you all have your research complete, why are you leaving me all the good artifacts?

Sorry to hear Blackguard, good luck with the RL work...

And yeah, Jimbo, If you work it out with Blackguard we'd be happy to have you. Mari is in 3-4 place, and the game has gotten surprisingly tight amongst the 4 of us...

[nrasch]

Colonial: Who are the four of us you are referring to?

13lackGu4rd: Sorry to see you go; hopefully we'll play again sometime. :)

jimbojones1971: If you do join, this is a fun game. Everyone has been great to play with; we've somehow managed to avoid any jerks. ;)

Also, have a good weekend everyone. :)

[Korwin]

Seems like the game will be over soon (or at least soonish).
I'm going under the masses of Tarts, Chayot, Queen of Air...

[Korwin]

Marignon needs more Time?

[13lackGu4rd]

I need a sub, not more time. so far jimbojones1971 hasn't PMed me yet so I don't know what's up with him. either way, I think you should post a looking for sub thread and freeze the game until a sub is found.

[Colonial]

fair play,

Currently postponed 24 hours, I'll put up a sub request just now...

[Colonial]

what? why did it just host? I had turned quickhost off :`(:`(

appologies for that. I don't know what happened there...

[13lackGu4rd]

quickhost off only holds off hosting automatically when all players send in their turn, it has nothing to do with hosting after the normal turn interval passed. in this case what you needed was a lot more than a 24 hour extension, which you haven't done. the 24 hour extension finished so the turn hosted...

oh well, another turn gone, nothing we can do about it now(no rollbacks for that, that's be just dumb), so I suggest you extend the next turn for 72 hours(for now), hopefully finding a sub for my position during this time, than proceed from there.

[Korwin]

Quickhost = if all turns get submitted it will host without waiting for the hosting time.
If not all turns are submitted at the hosting time, it will still host. Nothing to do with the Quickhost setting.

At least thats how I understand it.

[Korwin]

ah, ninjaed...

[Colonial]

****. I see.

Learn something new every day...

so yeah, its on 168 hour turns now.

sorry again.

[Colonial]

anyone else want to chime in enthusiastically on the sub thread? we don't seem to be catching any fish...

[nrasch]

Can we AI our missing player? I'm excited to keep playing this game....

Nathan

[Colonial]

I know exactly what you mean :(.

He is a bit big to set ai, but if I get the support of the other two, I will, -sniff-, perform the opporation...

[nrasch]

I'll go find the subthread and post in there.... I guess before asking for him to AI I need to do my part and help recruit. :)

[Korwin]

To be on the safe side --> Turn submitted.
Do we have an solution for Marignon?

Turn will host in a few minutes...

Edit: Added 3 hours. Not shure what Colonial's plans are...

[nrasch]

I believe we are still trying to find a sub. I chipped in on the 'please join our game' thread, and I'm not sure if we have had any bites yet.

[Korwin]

Added 24 h.
Hope thats OK, Colonial.

[Colonial]

aye cheers Korwin.

I was expecting a '12 hours' notification that I didn't recieve... no harm done I guess

I guess I will keep on extending the turn by random ammounts for a while, I'd like to see this game continue soon :(...

[nrasch]

Heyas all!

So, I'd like to talk again about setting our missing player to AI, and getting this game going again. :)

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

[nrasch]

Well I don't know if that turn yesterday was intentional or not, but I was excited to take a turn in this game again. :)

I hope everyone is doing well.

[Colonial]

yeah, it was an accident, but certainly wasn't the end of the world. I also enjoyed having another go with this thing.

I will set Mari AI before the next turn, if we still don't get a sub, since that turn was yet another stail for our orenge friend...

[Colonial]

All right.

I'm gunna add 72 hours, then set Marignan AI.

Sound good?

[nrasch]

Woo woo!

[Colonial]

Marignan is no more :'(

[Colonial]

And the AI has immedeately attacked everyone he has a border with. Brilliant.

[Korwin]

We should change the hosting intervall to something shorter than 336 hours.

[Colonial]

lol.

Fair point.

I'll give this round a while for everyone to get a chance to get back into the game, then a more regular time. What do people say to 120h (5 days) then 72h (3 days)?

[Colonial]

Would it be okay with you guys if I push this turn back by 48 hours? that would allow me to relax for the tail end of my trip and have time when I get home to do the turn.

does anyone object?

[CthulhuDreams]

If someone wants an extension, just do it imho.

[Korwin]

no problem for me.

[nrasch]

Me neither. :)

[Colonial]

because of your sentimants above, and me not having the internet access to be a fully funtional admin this summer, what would people think if I turned off autohosting? so it would only host when all four of us have uploaded?

[nrasch]

That would be fine with me. Fun game w/ good opponents, so whatever works for you all. :)

[Korwin]

Huh? Isnt autohosting = it will host when all have uploaded their turn.
From your Description it sounds like you want to keep autohosting and want to turn off the timer, not shure if thats even possible...

[Colonial]

yeah, hadn't realised that what I was requesting was impossible, never mind...

another option is to give all three of you the password, then if you are gunna stall postpone yourself.

[Colonial]

So,

We have lost a player, we are stalling like crazy, the chance of tackling ryleh before he crosses the finish line is looking slimmer and slimmer...

shall we call it a day for this game?