Last Rites - Running

[Kojusoki]

I can hardly even marvel how the AI managed to ignore my DIRECT ORDERS to cast spells that they were my mages were perfectly able to cast. This lost me a battle and many units. I don't get it. How does the AI ignore DIRECT ORDERS?

Maybe they were out of range? Or Ai thought that it has a very small chance of success?

[SirMu]

Yeah, I figured out they were out of range. I mistakenly thought they would move into range first like archers do. Apparently not.

[Saros]

Hey guys i'm afraid I am going to need an extension for a few days as I am moving to a different (and hopefully earthquake free) city. I will likely not be back online until the end of the weekend. I cant give an exact timetable as to when the turn will be in but I will get it submitted before I leave and as soon as possible once everything is set up in my new house.

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[Korwin]

OK, I'll extend the next turn if its needed.

[Korwin]

Anyone knows, whats up with Atlantis?

[Mauxe]

Just idiocy :(
I put my turn in - looks like I will be down to the bitter end..

[Korwin]

turn extended for Saros.

[Saros]

Sorry guys I somehow had my computer broken in the move. I will try get to a net cafe or something after work today to do some turns and new parts should arrive in a day or two so I should shortly be back up and running.

[Korwin]

Turn extended for 24 hours (for now until: 06:15 GMT on Wednesday March 16th)

[Saros]

Okay got the turn done. I should be able to keep up with a 48h schedule (fingers crossed)

[adder83]

unfortunetaly i can not play my turn on time to day. I would be glad if we copuld extent the turn for 4h. regards

[Korwin]

Done.

[adder83]

thanks a lot! Played my turn.

[Korwin]

Added 12 hours, C'ties is missing (and stalled last turn).

[Korwin]

C'ties stalled again, AI or searching for an sub?
Opinions?

[SirMu]

He only has a few provinces left that are being mopped up. I would say just AI him, no sub could recover at this point.

[Korwin]

Hmm, C'ties submitted a turn...

[SirMu]

I didn't receive the turn file for turn 78.
1) Does anyone know why or what I can do?
2) Can I get an extension in case this takes a while to figure out?

[Korwin]

Use the resend option in the link:
http://www.llamaserver.net/doAdminAction.cgi?game=Last_Rites&action=resend

[Korwin]

Anyone beside me got an stale turn?
http://www.llamaserver.net/doAdminAction.cgi?game=Last_Rites&action=showstales
But the stale doesnt show up here?
I did'nt get attacked (besides independents), so thats suspicious too...

[SirMu]

It was an all-stale.

[Saros]

Well I just got an email from the Llamaserver saying we all either have to redo the turn or everyone stales.
Rollbacks are apparently rather buggy so just accepting a stale is fine by me but then again I wasn't doing much this turn anyways.

[Korwin]

OK no Rollback, since we all stalled.

[Kojusoki]

its fine with me

[adder83]

I have a minor problem: sieging of one of my castles continued during the stale. Which leads to a breakdown of castle walls this turn and the army which should apear on time is now 2 turns away from the castle instead of 1 turn.

So its one very unhappy circumstance. Even though i am against a rollback.

[adder83]

I am sorr y both it seems like i can not play my turn on time to day as well... i am out of town. I would be glad if we could extent the turn for 12h. sorry for the delay!

[Korwin]

Done.

[adder83]

thanks a lot!

[nerozero]

Greetings all

I'm going away on a skiing trip tomorrow, so I'll be able to send in this turn, but I won't be back until sunday evening unfortunately. So I'd like to request an extension, if that is possible, until monday preferably as I'll be getting in late on sunday.

Sorry for the inconvenience guys

[mscfish]

I am vanquished by Dom kill.
I am very happy to play with you all.
Thanks.

[Korwin]

Greetings all

I'm going away on a skiing trip tomorrow, so I'll be able to send in this turn, but I won't be back until sunday evening unfortunately. So I'd like to request an extension, if that is possible, until monday preferably as I'll be getting in late on sunday.

Sorry for the inconvenience guys

Done

[Korwin]

I am vanquished by Dom kill.
I am very happy to play with you all.
Thanks.

Your defense against two players was superb. Concratulations.

If not for the Dom Kill, I fear it would have taken many more turns...

[SirMu]

Now just to shove the giants back in their cage, eh Korwin?

[Kojusoki]

Giants are just doing some pest control as it seems some lands are poison-snakes infested...

[nerozero]

Thanks for the extension Korwin!

[Saros]

WELP

Thats arcane nexus yes indeed.

[SirMu]

I figured, hey, I'm not gonna win either way, so might as well go out with a bang.

[adder83]

its eastern ahead and i will be out of town for holiday from friday 22.4 to monday 25.4. During this time i will have no chance to play my turns. Maybe others as well have no time so it would be great if we could extend the turn for this time.

regards and happy eastern!

[Korwin]

I'll extend the next turn. (looking at Atlantis)

[Korwin]

Turn postphoned.


How far gone is Atlantis? It stalled again, how about turning it AI?

[Korwin]

It would be funny, the turn I make an offensive against Pythium I get invaded by Pangea.
The problem is we have an NAP 3.

So I advise all other nations to be wary of the dealbreaker Pangea, don't feel like your word is binding. Pangea obviously don't feel it needs to honor its end.

[nerozero]

Atlantis seems defeated at this point. As far as I know, they only hold two provinces, both of them forts, but I'm sieging one of them, and they haven't got a lot in the other fort as far as I can tell, so maybe it would be best to set them AI if the player has vanished again?

[Korwin]

I set Atlantis to AI, last turn.

[Korwin]

Pangeas betrayal is really hurting me (they took Ermors old capital this turn), I really hope there is someone with an blade ready to pounce on pangea as soon as they are overextended...

[SirMu]

Well, it appears I'm between a rock and hard place. I either lose to Argath, or I win and have to face Pangea; things look grim for the snake folk. Not to mention the giants are still rampaging.

[SirMu]

Can I get a timer extension of 24 hours, along with what method I have to go through to get a turn resent to me (I never got it in the first place.)? I forgot.

[nerozero]

To get a turn resent, you need to go to the Last Rites page on Llamaserver, and there should be an option to resend turn there, then just select your nation and you're good to go!

[Korwin]

Sorry, missed the request (pangea and phytium stalled).

[Kojusoki]

We are not rampaging....

[Kojusoki]

I am leaving for holdays tonight and I will be back Tuesday night - can you make a delay for me please? Ill stay for one day and will be out for 2 days more - but after that I am working hard at home so no more holdays for the next few months :)

[Korwin]

I'll extend the next turn (current you allready submitted).

[Kojusoki]

Thank you.
If we have an another turn in 3-4hrs from now Ill submit it also.

[Kojusoki]

I am back - thank you. No more holidays:)

[SirMu]

Can we get an extension on time? I mean a permanent one. Another 12 hours, please.

[Saros]

Yeah a longer turn timer would be good. I keep just missing turns.

[Korwin]

Done.

[SirMu]

After some serious deliberation on where my priorities lie, I have decided that I can not continue playing. I thank you for allowing me to sub in, and I've had a blast doing so, however it is time for me duck out and let another, hopefully better, player take my place.

[Korwin]

Anyone here who thinks he can beat Pangea?
Otherwise we could use this occasion to declare Pangea winner.

[nerozero]

Well, my scouting is just terrible, so I'm not really sure exactly how powerful Pangaea is, but I do feel I could cause some trouble at least. My army of Tartarians could probably give anyone problems at this point.

However, I have no problems with finishing off the game if people don't want to continue playing, although my Tartarians will be quite disappointed.

Oh, and kudos to Tien Chi for making life so difficult for me, that Master Lich was really giving me a headache :)

[Kojusoki]

Well... we, Giants, are such a peace-loving nation that we will be more then happy to stop this bloody war.
Our scouts say, that there is a land where people say: Make love not war ;)

[Saros]

Perhaps we could have the score charts on the llamaserver turned on so everyone could judge relative standings. I'm pretty big but not necessarily invincible although agartha is pretty much gone as a fighting force at this point.

[adder83]

The decision to continue or not is none of Tien Chi as our celestial bureaucracy will only last for very few turns anyways. Seeing the graphs wuld be fun.

Although Tien Chi finally was utterly slain( swarmed by Tarts :) )i really enjoyed playing this game. Its my most fun MP games ever! Congrats to Jomon, a worthy foe!

[nerozero]

I'd love to see the graphs for this game, that would be fun. Also, it might give us a better picture of the strengths of the remaining nations, something tells me that Pan has the most provinces at this point :)

[Korwin]

I don't think that turning on the score graph is possible.
If it is possible, just tell me how.

[Saros]

I think it can be done through the llamaserver admin options. Dunno exactly how though and its just the llamaserver score tables not the ingame graphs.
Admitted I think I have probably won at this point. I have more gems than I can easily spend and even after dispelling the arcane nexus a few turns back I still have enough gems to put up my own AN as well as the earth forging global, both with some hundreds of gems in each spell. As for tarts I guess you could ask agartha how well his did. I spent a fair amount of time preparing to fight his tartarians so I have heaps of anti tart things and stuff just lying around.

[Calahan]

Just a passing FYI that there is no admin option on the llamaserver to switch either the scoregraphs or the llamascores on for the game once the game has started. Whether the llamascores appear during the game seems to be directly linked to the pre-game 'scoregraphs on Yes/No' option. (at least as far as the admin is concerned and can control)

There have been times when the llamascores suddenly appeared mid-game by accident (in games with scoregraphs off). But each time this happened it was associated with a bug in the llamaserver (due to how it used to handle Dominion patches IIRC). Llamabeast possibly could switch the llamascores on for you, but I doubt he'd do it if it risked messing with the operating code (just in case it affected other games by accident)

If you desperately want to know what the current graphs look like, then each player can go around their empire and do a lot of counting ;) As every graph criteria can be worked out by hand if need be. (and if you're insanely bored)

[nerozero]

Ah well, that won't work then, too bad. Seem to recall that bug with the score graphs happening this game didn't it?

Anyway, I have no problems surrendering to Pangaea, chances are he can just dispel my gift of health anyway, and without that I can't produce Tarts any more. So if everyone else is okay with it, we can go ahead and declare Pan the winner of this game!

[Korwin]

OK, I'll wait until tommorow if anyone speaks up against declaring
pangea winner. If nobody does, its finished.

[Saros]

http://img848.imageshack.us/i/gemst.jpg/

Well here is a shot of my gem stockpiles and production. I also have around 40+ clams and maybe a dozen earth blood stones. Producing 3 fully geared tarts a turn as well as a bunch of other lesser summons. A wish capable caster to pull out fun things like armageddon and if pushed I would put up burden of time as all my mages live like 400 years.
Buffed minotaurs and trolls are also surprisingly capable of taking down a lot of SC's and I have a ****load of them.

[nerozero]

Well, I guess the game is over now? I'd like to congratulate Pangaea with a well played game. Hope everyone had fun, even with all the people disappearing (Atlantis I'm looking at you :)), and a big thanks to Korwin for taking over admin duty, as well as the people who subbed in. Congrats Saros!

[Saros]

I'm kinda surprised at the victory really especially considering how terrible my start was. God getting xbow'd turn one and then straight into a war with ermor in which I busted through his armies and sieged his cap before being beaten back only for agartha to come sieze the spoils. I then was last place in research for most of the game. Things really turned around after I assaulted bandar and rolled over him fairly easily.
Even then I do kinda feel like it would have been a much tougher endgame if atlantis hadn't gone belly up halfway through our war and left me with a big chunk of territory.

Most valued unit definitely goes to minotaurs, expensive and resource intensive they may be but with a few earth buffs they become an incredible force and the even have trample to roll over massed skellyspam like agartha was fielding.

[nerozero]

Yeah, I was a little surprised as well. I honestly thought Agartha had won this game, but then again my scouting was just awful in this game.

[Korwin]

My problem as Argatha was, it took so incredible long to finish of C'ties...
The surprise attack of Pangea didn't help either.
Right at the same time as I commited most of my Armies and Tarts against Phytium.

[Saros]

Well crap of course I managed to stale the turn the giants attacked. Oh well time to get stuck in I guess.