Noobs are gone frenzY - Late Age - (Running)

[Bullock]

I see many noobs game running so i hope there is still some with free time !
So obviously this game is looking for noobs, hardly motivated (no stall, fight to the death, preferring fast paced game...), without much project for this summer (no people who will be on vacation all august for example) subscribe

I also had in mind the possibility of making teams of noobies against more experienced players who will be teamless.

So if you are experienced you can also leave a message.

So here are the parameters (which can be changed if requested by players and if the majority is ok).

ERA: Late Age
MAP: Plane of Rusty nails
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...6&d=1297439609
Turns RATE: 24h until turn 30 and 48h above.
Players: 11
Mods: CBM 1.84
Victory condition : Until survivors agree for a winner ... or to the death !
Diplomacy : All is allowed.

also:
Special site frequency:60
Money, resources, Supply: 125
Ind strength : 7
Renaming:On
Score graphs:On
Hall of fame entries:15

Due to the map only one aquatic nation can be taken (but we can change the map)

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EDIT 07/07

Since player slots are almost full i want to remind you the spirit of this game, before you submit your pretender:

* This is a game to death (no AI 'til you are really screwed, and please post here before going AI)
* As a fast paced game if you need a break (>3days... more if it's exceptional and if everyone is ok) try to find a sub.
* You can cheat your opponents by not respecting your word when doing diplomacy, but expect that everyone will know it. (i hope the thread will be very active, and not only by cheated guys ^^)
* Since we have only 2 veterans (10+ MP game) i won't apply my initial idea of doing teams of noobs. Instead they will get a handicap (Something like no diplo or forced stall for the few first turns ... or no handicap) I ll set a poll so everyone can choose (even the concerned person)
* Have fun !

If you are fine with this description then you can start making your pretender !(Do not forget to apply CBM 1.84 and no password setting !!)

The game will start as soon as the 11 pretenders are in with 48h for the 1rt turn and then normal turn of 24h.

Here is the link of the game :
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Noobs_are_gone_frenzY


FAQ About llamaserver
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=35160

HOW TO JOIN (from http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...16&postcount=2)

- Make sure you have the same mods enabled as the game you're playing in (Preferences->Mod Preferences) although only mods affecting pretender design, such as Conceptual Balance, actually matter
- Go to Game Tools -> Create a pretender god in Dominions. Don't set a password, since for PBEM games they're not helpful and occasionally annoying (e.g. if you need a sub)
- Go to the savedgames/newlords folder in the dominions directory, and find your pretender file (e.g. mid_pythium_0.2h)
- E-mail the file to: pretenders[ at ]llamaserver[ dot ]net
- Crucially, you must have the game name in the subject line of your e-mail (Noobs_are_gone_frenzY)

Enjoy !

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Current players:

- Ermor : Bullock (DEAD t70)
- R'lyeh : DarkAvenger211 (DEAD t33)
- Pythium : Anaconda (DEAD t37)
- Bogarus : Agelian
- C'tis : Umsolfunolanis (DEAD t44)
- Abysia : Herbiedu
- Jomon : LongBrodie
- Patala : Strabo (DEAD t30)
- Atlantis : Soyweiser (Veteran)
- Midgard : The Kurgan (DEAD t30)
- Utgard : Catquiet (Veteran)

[Bullock]

Guys, i can't wait to start the game ! (i even put a beer at the title side to attract more peeps) so sign in !

If the settings don t fit your wish tell it.

[kuketski]

i guess your nation choise is a little disturbing for new players. =)

im in 3 games right now and i dont think i have time to play in 4th one.

[Bullock]

oh really ? well i can also change/forbid nations if this is scaring noobies =)

Is Ermor LA overpowered ?

[kuketski]

oh really ? well i can also change/forbid nations if this is scaring noobies =)

Is Ermor LA overpowered ?

its all up to you to decide, who to ban.
For me, Ermor sure is very strong and because of that strength, very vulnerable to other players ganking against him. If ANY nation ever conquers Ermor`s province all it get is a graveyard with 40 population, extreme supply problems and almost negative income. xD

Because of that Ermor extremly strong midgame - when no SC present, but huge armies are common - to march such an armies onto Ermors land, you need strong supplys. But when SC kicks in, its all changing. I`d not ban Ermor, just took some strong priestly nation like Pythium/Marignon or went in water - R`lyeh! xD

[DarkAvenger211]

Sure I'll join in. I want to try something new. Put me in as LA R'lyeh

[Bullock]

Woot we are 2 players ! Champagne !

btw i want to try Ermor in MP cause there is no fun playing them SP since the AI sux very hard against them.

[Anaconda]

Sign me in for Pythium.

I have been playing since Dom2 but I am quite unexperienced when it comes to serious MP and mods, like CBM's.

[Bullock]

welcome aboard!

[Ossa]

I'd like to join as Marignon, though I'm no newb - but I'm definitly not a good player.

[Bullock]

ok added !

[PriestyMan]

I think its pretty funny that Ossa will join vets only games like YARG, then join a game hosted by someone who has never played MP before. sick of getting crushed, or hoping for an easy win?

[Bullock]

indeed, you have more than 30 games u r definitly not a noob Ossa.i put you as vet =)

[agelian]

I'll have a crack.. but I'll let you know that I am a super N00b! I've played a few SP games and watched a few games on youtube and vimeo.. but thats about it!.. If you dont mind a super n00b ill join.

Also a recommendation for a LA choice would help as i havent tended to play any of these.

Cheers!

[Bullock]

hey Agelian !
Well it s fine to me until you know the basics, do your best, and play 'til the end.

I won't give advice about nation choice since my knowledge is very limited

Welcome !

[agelian]

Ok I guess ill give Bogarus a shot then!

[Umsolfunolanis]

I'd like to join as C'Tis. I have played two MP games so far but one isnt finished yet.
Also I would like to reserve a spot for a friend who's account hasn't been activated yet. He has one MP game I think and he would like to join as Abysia.

I have never played LA before. Maybe I should take a look at it in SP before this game starts.

And one question about CBM. I know, that it has to be activated when creating my Pretender, but must it also be activated when playing my turn??

[Bullock]

Ok i ll reserve a spot for your friend.
Concerning CBM it s a good question, the answer is interesting me also.

[LongBrodie]

I would like to join as Jomon. This will be my fourth MP game (none of which have ended yet).

[Strabo]

I'd like to join as Patala. Haven't played like for a year. Played 4 or 5 MP games, but had no success.

[Bullock]

Cool there is a rush of noobies coming, great =)
I m updating the post

[agelian]

It says once the mods are activated then they will be automatically activated for your game when loaded. But thats what it says in options active mods when you look.. not sure if that is the case!

[Bullock]

It says once the mods are activated then they will be automatically activated for your game when loaded. But thats what it says in options active mods when you look.. not sure if that is the case!

im sure a friendly veteran, roaming on the forum, will answer us =)

[PriestyMan]

if you have the mods all downloaded right, dont worry about them applying or not. it will happen the right way

[Bullock]

I have updated the first post.

You can now send your pretender in!

[agelian]

Done!

[Soyweiser]

Well if you allow one more non noob. (I'm not a noob anymore, but not a vet per se. But I think I'm pretty good. And I tend not to give up and fight till the bitter end. And I tend to over-think battles and think about how to counter previous tactics people used. (Or at least I try)).

I'll play LA Atlantis. (after Maerlande kicked me dead with them, I'm interested to see how they work). And LA Atlantis with LA Jomon in the game will give LA R'lyeh some headaches. (Both Atlantis and Jomon want at least one underwater castle + fort for diversity).

So if you want me great. If you don't also good. Saves me the time ;)

[LongBrodie]

So, I loaded up a single player game to test out CBM 1.84 (I haven't really played around with it much, yet) and for some reason all cavalry in the game have doubled weapons - two swords, two hoof attacks, two lances, two bows if they're mounted archers... What's going on here???

[agelian]

Hey Soyweiser I'm currently reading your bootcamp game at the end of last year!!

[Soyweiser]

Ow god, Bootcamp... The game that does not end. Turn 100+ and the war between me and Mar is in a stalemate. Most other players are crushed beneath my frostboots. But Mar is somehow holding up greatly. That was actually the first MP game I started playing in. (And my pretender design shows that ;) ).

[Soyweiser]

LongBrodie, there has been a bug in the newest patch regarding old mods. Check the mods forum for a CBM update.

[Bullock]

Well if you allow one more non noob. (I'm not a noob anymore, but not a vet per se. But I think I'm pretty good. And I tend not to give up and fight till the bitter end. And I tend to over-think battles and think about how to counter previous tactics people used. (Or at least I try)).

I'll play LA Atlantis. (after Maerlande kicked me dead with them, I'm interested to see how they work). And LA Atlantis with LA Jomon in the game will give LA R'lyeh some headaches. (Both Atlantis and Jomon want at least one underwater castle + fort for diversity).

So if you want me great. If you don't also good. Saves me the time ;)

Well you seem quite strong lol. I think i ll start the game saturday morning, if there is no other noobie who want to join by that time i let you in (unless some noobies already in don t want to). I will think about a potential handicap four you and Ossa.

[LongBrodie]

:doh:

I downloaded the fixed version but forgot to put it in my mods folder since I've mostly been playing vanilla...

Thanks for reminding me! <3

[LongBrodie]

This game is going to be short, tense, and bloody with such a small map and 10 players competing for space. Some of us will start right on top of each other. :)

[Soyweiser]

Well the best way to prevent people from winning in a strong position is diplomacy. Band together, share information, and take the stronger player out. But that can be hard to organize. (But if you don't do that, the stronger player wins. Like I did in FirstSteps (That and finding a 20% conj site as a major conj nation)).

[Bullock]

Well if you allow one more non noob. (I'm not a noob anymore, but not a vet per se. But I think I'm pretty good. And I tend not to give up and fight till the bitter end. And I tend to over-think battles and think about how to counter previous tactics people used. (Or at least I try)).

I'll play LA Atlantis. (after Maerlande kicked me dead with them, I'm interested to see how they work). And LA Atlantis with LA Jomon in the game will give LA R'lyeh some headaches. (Both Atlantis and Jomon want at least one underwater castle + fort for diversity).

So if you want me great. If you don't also good. Saves me the time ;)

Well you seem quite strong lol. I think i ll start the game saturday morning, if there is no other noobie who want to join by that time i let you in (unless some noobies already in don t want to). I will think about a potential handicap four you and Ossa.

Since we can learn more from experienced players i think it could be interesting to add you also. But to do a fair balanced game i ll propose some handicaps for you two (with Ossa).
To do that i'll do a poll with some proposition.

It sounds fair but also funny :D

About the map Longbrodie is maybe right especially if we have 2 water nations, but it can be fun that way too. If you have any suggestion i m listening (size 150 max)

[Soyweiser]

LA only has one water nation (R'lyeh, with the killer dominion), but a few that can also enter the water and build PD. Atlantis and Jomon.

[The Kurgan]

I'll jump in if there is a spot left. Definitely a noob. :p

Put me down for Midgard if so.

Thanks!

[Bullock]

LA only has one water nation (R'lyeh, with the killer dominion), but a few that can also enter the water and build PD. Atlantis and Jomon.

ok lol ... This is the mark of the authentic noobie :doh:

So i think we ll keep Aran.

[Bullock]

I'll jump in if there is a spot left. Definitely a noob. :p

Put me down for Midgard if so.

Thanks!

Ok this time we have to change the map ^^
welcome in

[Bullock]

Ok guys i have updated :

The map
The victory condition
The number of players
I have also added a pole to vote for or against handicap for vet players.

If there is more votes for "none" than the sum of the 3 others handicap option then no handicap applied for vet
Otherwise the most popular handicap will be picked.
If there is many "something else" ... well i'm waiting you proposition.

For X i was thinking of 3 turns. Seems fair to me.

I expect to start the game saturday.

If you don't like the change feel free to say it here or by PM.

Cheers

[agelian]

Not quite sure what but maybe some kind of way to make it 2 groups with a vet on each side? maybe.. i dont know really.. whatever the majority wants

[The Kurgan]

Bullock, can you edit the first post with a link to where v4 is of that map? I found a v3 on llamaserver's mod/map list, but no v4.

Also, IMO the vets are at a disadvantage if the noobs gang up on them. :p That may be enough of a handicap.... Or not. lol.

[Bullock]

@agelian : Not sure it s a good idea since spawn are random. (but i m ok to use it if the majority does)

@Kurgan maybe u r right about handicap. Concerning the map i added a link.

[agelian]

Just search the map name here on the forum without the v4. Then scroll to the bottom!!

[DarkAvenger211]

Are we doing 2 water nations? I thought there was only one die to the map

[Soyweiser]

Nope, LA only has R'lyeh as a water nation. Atlantis is a surface nation. Strangely enough.

[The Kurgan]

Got the map (thanks), and my Pretender is in!

Good luck everyone! :)

[Soyweiser]

Right, I vote for no diplo. Seems like the option that is the most fun. And it totally clashes with my normal playstyle.

[Talrivian]

Actually, LA Ermor and R'lyeh are broken, not because of their abilities, but because of what they do to the game. Whoever starts next to them has no choice but to fight them because of the horrible effects of their dominion. If you get into a war with them, and win, you will have nothing to show for it because of the fact that there dominion slowly dies off. All you will have is empty, useless provinces, no reward to show for your efforts, whereas, if you fought another nation, their provinces would provide you with a monetary and resourceful bonus.

[agelian]

Yup Tal I read that too.. and we have both of them.. should make for an interesting match!! (Unles I spawn next to both of them then ill go have a cry!)

[Catquiet]

I'll join as Utgard.

[Bullock]

I'll join as Utgard.

you don t seem very noob.
I think 2 veteran is enough for this game.

Tell me if i m wrong about your skills.

[Umsolfunolanis]

What if my dominion is stronger than Ermors or R'lyehs? Then their bad effects shouldn't spead right?

Pretender is uploaded. And Abysias Name is Herbiedu. His Account is still not activated but his pretender is up also.

[Bullock]

What if my dominion is stronger than Ermors or R'lyehs? Then their bad effects shouldn't spead right?


Indeed it s working with the dominion so if your dom is stronger you dont get the nasty effect.

i ve updated your friend's name.

[Catquiet]

Tell me if i m wrong about your skills.

Well, I did play a fair amount of MP games back in the day, but that was a little over 4 years ago before the newfangled CBM. I'm not sure how well my skills will hold up after several years away from dominions.

[Bullock]

Tell me if i m wrong about your skills.

Well, I did play a fair amount of MP games back in the day, but that was a little over 4 years ago before the newfangled CBM. I'm not sure how well my skills will hold up after several years away from dominions.

OK anyway it would be a shame to reject a potential player.
So i ll add you but as a vet. (which means you probably won't have access to diplomacy)

The bad thing is i have to set another map =)
This one was looking good.

[Bullock]

Ok so i picked an other map for 12. I hope everybody will be fine with it.

Here is the description of the map :
This is the version of Cradle used in TigerStripes, again with 12 hand-placed land starts. Note that you can't download this map file - it's only on the LlamaServer, so the start positions will remain a surprise.

Does that mean no download necessary ?

[agelian]

Its a standard map already with dom3 i think its just the start postiions are hand done

[DarkAvenger211]

I don't know how which email to send pretenders to or what the subject is supposed to be. The link you have doesn't work

Ah nevermind I got it

[The Kurgan]

I don't know how which email to send pretenders to or what the subject is supposed to be. The link you have doesn't work

- Make sure you have the same mods enabled as the game you're playing in (Preferences->Mod Preferences) although only mods affecting pretender design, such as Conceptual Balance, actually matter
- Go to Game Tools -> Create a pretender god in Dominions. Don't set a password, since for PBEM games they're not helpful and occasionally annoying (e.g. if you need a sub)
- Go to the savedgames/newlords folder in the dominions directory, and find your pretender file (e.g. mid_pythium_0.2h)
- E-mail the file to: pretenders[ at ]llamaserver[ dot ]net
- Crucially, you must have the game name in the subject line of your e-mail (Noobs_are_gone_frenzY)

[agelian]

just under the link is the email and the subject header..

email: pretenders[ at ]llamaserver[ dot ]net

subject: Noobs_are_gone_frenzY

atttach: pretender file (.2h file) usually in "C:\Program Files (x86)\dominions3\savedgames\newlords" Mind you win 7 n vista can put those files in another dir.. let me know if you cant find!!!

[agelian]

9 pretenders in just 2 more to go! (Err... 3)

[agelian]

Anaconda and Ossa are the last two to submit pretenders.. and then we are off!

[Anaconda]

Working on it right now.

[Anaconda]

Are we playing with 3.26 or the newest (there is a never patchs)?

The newest had some mod issues, should we stick with the .26?

[Bullock]

No it s the 3.27 and u have to download a patch if u see double weapon/armor. Go have a look in the mod forum

[Soyweiser]

Yeah, the MP servers already upgraded to .27, so you cannot play using .26 without a lot of hassle.

[Anaconda]

Patchin' rocks ok, but another question:

CMB 1.84 is enabled in the game preferences but doesnt show any hint of a mod in the main screen? Is this the case with CBM? (...asking this because, as I am quite unexperienced with mods' I have, if I recall right, only played mods that post a sign at the lobby / main screen reminding a player what is on and whats not...? sry for being a pain in an arse)

[Anaconda]

Woooaah... now the pretender creation crashes the game.

patch 3.27
CBM 1.84 enabled (thou doesnt show at the main screen / lobby)

-> after picking LA Pythium from Pretender creation, trying to open the physical form crashes the game. No exceptions. Maybe the CBM isnt installed proberly? [CBM updated from the post listing the patch 3.27 compatible mod updates]

[Anaconda]

Just to make sure:

(playing with mac OS)


I updated CBM by copying folder Conceptual Balance Mod v.184 into the DOM3 MODS folder and copied a file named CB1.84.dm also to MODS -folder.

...sooooo MODS folder looks like this:

-some other, disabled mods-
Conseptual Balance Mod v1.84 [Folder]
-some sub folders and files in it-
CB1.84.dm [file, created in 29 of June, 2011]





anything I missed in the process?

should there be also files

CB1.84_wote.dm, and
CB1.84_weaker_egd.dm

at the MODS folder?

-> nope, didnt help with the crash issue....

-> also tried with CB1.84.dm created in March, didnt help either

[Anaconda]

...well well, CBM enabled trying to choose a physical form for any nations' pretender crashes the game.

Seems I am out of the match if theres no hot fix for my problem.

[Soyweiser]

Well if you find mod bugs you should post at the other forum. But I see the problem. The images are missing.

But just to be sure, remove the
CB1.84_wote.dm, and
CB1.84_weaker_egd.dm mod files. They are not needed.

I think you do not have the mod images. Download the file here: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10955&d=1301526592

And copy everything BUT the .dm file into your mods dir.

[Anaconda]

Well, dear Sir, for some reason after installing the stuff you linked it lets me pick the physical form.

This is strange because I had, at least thought so, istalled everything already. But apparently I hadnt because now it shows the mod image, which it didnt show before, also.

...so, thank you very many!

-> Will be posting my character in no time...

[agelian]

You should get a CBM back and green icon on the main menu if you enabled 1.84 correctly. In fact you should see the icon in the mod selection screen too! Have you got the full CBM download?

[agelian]

(dammit refresh didn't show all the replies and that you'd sorted it already.)

Just have ossa left then we start!!

[Bullock]

Ok guys we are about to start only Ossa's pretender is missing.

I wish a pleasant game to everybody and may the strongest noob win :D
Btw the win of a vet is totally forbidden !!

And don't forget to vote for the vet's handicap. (As it seems no handicap will applied fot the moment ... )

[Herbiedu]

Hey! Finally the Admins gave me right to post here :)
I am Herbiedu, the Player for Abysia. Mod is allready loaded up and i wish all of you a fun game!

[agelian]

Howdy Herbiedu! good to have you.. I only signed up here a day or two myself so should be an interesting experience!

[Bullock]

Glad to see u in Herbiedu.

I ll start the game tonight at midnight if Ossa doesn't show up earlier.
If so i ll put back the previous map for 11 players which was smaller and i think better for a 1rt try.

Gentlemen, get ready ! :D

[Bullock]

So the game is finally launched ! (48h for the 1rt round so every1 can get synchro)
since we are 11 i have set the previous map which is smaller and give us a better chance to see an end to this game.

Here is the link of the map.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10836&d=1297439609

I hope everybody will be fine with this final choice of map.

Now about the poll.
I m quite surprise to see that many people dont want handicap for vet (atm it s a kind of draw). So i ll close the poll Sunday night. Until then i hope the 2 peeps who haven't vote yet will do so. And for agelian who votes "something else" he can have a new vote between "nothing" or "no diplo" (that s how work democracy lol :D)

[Olm]

I had the problem with double weapons on cavalry too. I think you don't have the mod that was updated after the last patch. Weapon modding has been altered somehow, and this seems to be the result with the old mod.

[Catquiet]

Now about the poll.
I m quite surprise to see that many people dont want handicap for vet (atm it s a kind of draw).

Setting the Vets to No Diplomacy is something of a handicap for the people who start next to them as well. Instead of being able to make a NAP with your neighbors and expanding safely, you are stuck with a constant threat on your border. Almost as bad as starting next to Ermor or R'lyeh. :)

[agelian]

agreed with catquiet if your going to do that make it maybe so that they cant initiate diplo... still see a few issues with that as well... maybe nothing is a better idea!

[Bullock]

Yeah maybe you are right about handicap.

Btw 9/11 did their first turn in less than 8h which is v nice =)
I hope we ll keep this fast pace.

[Umsolfunolanis]

I voted for no handicap, cause its allready a handicap beeing marked as a vet. I think if the vets get too strong the noobs just need to play together a little bit.

[agelian]

Have you got round to your initial turn yet Umsol? Everyone else got theirs in a while ago so just want to make sure you have it all setup right!

[Bullock]

Ok guys the turn1 is about to be done, i m glad to see that everyone is fine with the fast paced concept =) (many did their turn at the game start or almost!)
Don't forget that the game will come back on the normal track of 24h/turn next turn.

I didn t find the way to close the poll but he s closed.
And the "No handicap" has been elected !

I wish a pleasant game to everyone and may the living dead rules the world :D

[Umsolfunolanis]

Sorry for beeing late with the first turn.
Just noticed that the world is indeed round! What a surprise..

and I wish everyone a good and fun game :)

[Bullock]

Just noticed that the world is indeed round! What a surprise..



Yeah i didn t notice it was that kind of map.
If too many people dislike this we can change map.

[agelian]

I see a black candle!!

[Bullock]

lol ! already ?

Time to meet the neighborhood :D

[agelian]

only one but its not totally surprising.. yeah will have to see what gets sorted... did u notice my guy in the HoF.. 2 kills!! yay.. he almost died.. bad gamble!!.. well not really.. he routed the heavy cavalry before he fled at least :D should be much easier next turn!

[Bullock]

I guess you did the noobish thing that atlantis was talking about ;)

Btw i see 3black candles in the sea... i m wondering who it can be.

[Anaconda]

I c only white ones, lots of them. I ought to keep it that way, too.

[Soyweiser]

I also see the blackness in the sea. I call dibs! :)

[Umsolfunolanis]

Whats dibs???

[agelian]

Herbiedu you need to turn on your PM otherwise we cant contact you on the sly!

[Bullock]

Ok it seems we are going to have our first stall ... at turn 3...
It s quite a shame.

I ll postponed the turn for few hours exceptionally if needed and wait to hear from the late guy.

[Umsolfunolanis]

Maybe turn on reminder emails?

[Bullock]

it s already on (6hrs before the end of the turn)

Btw he was connected yesterday at 17h45 so he could have done his turn. (especially at this point when turn are very fast to do...)

[agelian]

a stall with no notice this early cant be too good.. hopefully its nothing bad.

[Umsolfunolanis]

Maybe he did not get the turn file. That happened to me sometimes. At first I waited and waited for the turn file until I found out about the resend turn option on the game page.

[Bullock]

I hope he will come back to us with a good reason.

I ll probably add a 2nd and last postpone of 3 or 4 hours.

[Umsolfunolanis]

I dont want to be rude, but do you really want another postpone?
Thats what the 24 hour limit is for. To be a limit.

It would be a totally different thing of course if someone asked for a delay in advance...

[Bullock]

kk maybe u r right. But it s quite crippling to miss a turn so early =/

If it s a technical issue it s quite unfair.

[Soyweiser]

This early in the game I would rather wait for a response from the player. kinda sucks to lose one so quickly.

[Herbiedu]

where and how can i do that?

[Herbiedu]

ok think i found the problem ... could anybody write me a PM just to test it pls

[Bullock]

i have sent u a msg herbiedu and it seems to work.

Concerning Ryleh, our missing player, i think there is a misuderstanding cause he has, this afternoon, strategic discution about this game with an other member.

I have sent him a msg, but unfortunately after he disconnected, so i ll add a couple more hours to the timer hoping we can solve this strange thing in a good way.

EDIT: I ve postponed 2*2h by mistake. i ll probably force the hosting 2 hrs ealier tjan the deadline

[Bullock]

ok so DarkAvenger211 came, did his 2 turns, and left without giving any answer to our questions about is stalling at turn 3 (even those trough PM).

I think this behavior is unacceptable and unreliable for a long term game.
I can easily understand we can need a delay even for few days, but the minimum is to ask for it before and if u didn t get the time to do so at least tell us why u were late.

Therefore i ll try to find a sub and if none shows up i propose to start again the game with a smaller map and 10 players.
The game will be on hold until we have found a sub.

I don't like to make such proposition but in this case, and so early in the game, it sounds deserved to me.

What do you think about it ?

[Soyweiser]

didn't he just play turn 3?

[Anaconda]

I would suggest cutting him a little slack.

The player did his second turn right away after submitting the older one, and we all have life to live too... for example I got a day job, a business of my own and a family so interrupting things might just happen to me as well as to any1 of us.

If he didnt ask for delay, it shows he was ok with the idle and for the future reference we should keep up with the schedule unless some1 asks postponing in forehand.

I already know I need to do it in August anyway.

[Bullock]

Well he played his turn 3 because i was vigilant and postponed the hosting.

The problem isn t the need of a delay as i mentioned above nor even to stall but the lack of communication.

He hasn t answered PM or msg on this forum referring to this early stall. As i said earlier the problem isn't the delay or the stall but his behavior.

To me, such behavior will lead later or sooner to make troubles in the game. So i think it s better to take care of it turn 4 instead of turn 50.

Btw i m maybe too stern that s why i was asking your opinion.
If nobody agree with me i ll put back the hosting to tomorrow evening and at 24h.

[Herbiedu]

I say dont restart ... just keep the game like this. If one does not ask for more time turns are just done normally after 24 hours. if you miss a turn, its your own fault and disadvantage.

[Anaconda]

Yes, and thats why I gave mine.

I also want to point out that he played turn 4 right away after host went off. And coming back to the behavior, well thats a personal preference... some people act different than others.

Of course your vigilantism is appreciated, but I would say let it slide for now.

[DarkAvenger211]

I gave my turn..

I noticed an email saying that hosting was in 6 hours but I thought I had already uploaded. So I just uploaded (And in good time too, I almost missed it)

[Bullock]

Ok i will let it slide ... (at least i ve learned a new expression^^)

But a stall turn 3 without any comments while i asked for hardly motivated noobs is quite boring ...

[Anaconda]

current turn is due Saturday?

[agelian]

Ah the wonders of timezones. Just got up will do my turn in a bit!!

[agelian]

turn is back to normal.. and im submitted both my turns!

[Anaconda]

There r some problems with llamaserver, no?

[Herbiedu]

where is the turnfile? why was the turn not done tonight?

[agelian]

You can see on our game that the last updated time and current time are way off. Means something is wrong with server as usually it's only up to 5 min out!

[Herbiedu]

jepp i noticed that :-(

[LongBrodie]

I uploaded my turn hours ago, but llamaserver isn't updating. :(

If I ever do stall a turn, just put it down as job stress. I work rotating 12 hour shifts and am often totally zonked out when I get home. I try to do my turns as soon as I get home, but I may eventually miss one.

[Herbiedu]

And the Server is on hold again! :-(

[Anaconda]

Any1 know whats up with the llamaserver nowadays?

[Bullock]

Llamabest has some issue with his ISP i heard.
Things are back to normal actually.

[Herbiedu]

Why is the turnfile not beeing send?!

[Bullock]

Indeed.
I ll force hosting, hopping it will solve this issue.
Otherwise i ll PM the llama.

Edit: Forced hosting doesn t seem to work. I PM llama.

[Anaconda]

shows all received atm

[The Kurgan]

Llama server is borked again. All of my games show all turns received... yet I have none and nothing has been sent out.

Borked. Again.

[agelian]

Yeah it's weird. I can request a resend and that works for the old turn. Doesn't seem to have progressed.

[Herbiedu]

Fick die Henne ... thats really going on my nervs!

Question to all the Vet-Players ... is this a new problem that the server is going down like twice a week or has it been like that for a long time allready?
I only played a few MP-Game on this server so far and they were without any problems.

[Soyweiser]

Nope, the server has had some problems lately. ISP's not doing their ****ing jobs.

[Herbiedu]

And the Server is down again :-(
Really no fun at the moment!

[Strabo]

I'm sorry to say, but I won't be able to send my turns for 3-4 days, but I'll try to squeeze another turn tomorrow. If you will be waiting only for me, then force hosting - one/two stales are acceptable in my position. Sorry again.

[Bullock]

Ok thanks for having kept us informed.
Can you give me your dates when you leave and come back ?
I will try to limit the stalling without hampering the game for others.

Cheers

[Strabo]

Squeezed another turn in. I'll leave right now and come back on 25 or 26 July.

[Catquiet]

Abysia : Herbiedu does not honor NAPs.

Here is the basic situation.

Utgard comes into contact with Abysia. In order to secure one of my borders, I enter into a long-term NAP with Abysia.

Utgard later comes into contact with C'tis. I offer a NAP3 to C'tis which is refused.

Since I dislike sharing a border with a nation that refuses to sign a NAP, Utgard builds up it's army and moves to attack C'tis. It is only then that I am informed (by C'tis) that Abysia/C'tis have a defense pact.

When asked Abysia tells me that he will ignore the terms of our NAP to honor his defense pact with C'tis which was made first.

I submit that Abysia negotiated our NAP in bad faith. If Abysia had a previous agreement that could override our NAP, Utgard should have been informed at the time the NAP was made instead of waiting until we tripped over it like a landmine.

Utgard asks that all men of honor consider any agreement made with Abysia to be null-and-void and requests assistance in the destruction of the Abysia/C'tis alliance.

[Herbiedu]

This is stupid! I did not even cancel the NAP so far that is between Utgard and Abysia. So at this time the NAP is still there. Here is the massage that i wrote to Utgard:

Utgard wrote me:
"Since C'tis refused to sign a NAP with Utgard I am moving to secure my borders. C'tis claims you will weigh in on his side of the conflict due to a defense pact between the two of you.

Are you going to honor your NAP with Utgard?"

My answer was:

"You have been informed by the Nation of C'tis that there is a defence pact between C'tis and Abysia. This pact was signed long before the NAP between us. And you attacked C'tis knowingly after this information was given to you.
I advice you to give all provinces back that you took from C'tis and stop the agression immediatly.
Otherwise the Nation of Abysia will stand side by side with the Nation of C'tis against you and fullfill thier promizes given to them in the defence pact.

Abysia only has a defence pact with C'tis, so we will not end up the NAP between us when you are attacked by C'tis. But since you are the agressor against C'tis our NAP is in real danger."




In my eyes Utgard is the true agressor here. He attacked C'tis without warning. Only thing i did was to inform him again that there es a Defence Pact between C'tis and Abysia and that i will fullfill this pact if he further intends to attack and does not fall back to the borders that he had before. If he would have been attacked from C'tis there would have been no reaction at all from my side.

[Herbiedu]

BTW i did not even get a PM as a reaction on my PM. Utgard is going right to the world news.

[Catquiet]

This is stupid! I did not even cancel the NAP so far that is between Utgard and Abysia. So at this time the NAP is still there.

Informing me that you are not going to honor the terms of our NAP is the same as cancelling it.


In my eyes Utgard is the true agressor here. He attacked C'tis without warning.

The whole point of a NAP-X is to insure the attacked nation gets at least X turns warning before combat starts. C'tis refused to sign a NAP-3 with Utgard. When a larger nation on my border reserves the right to attack me without warning, I consider that to be an aggressive act and since C'tis and Utgard had no NAP treaty, I had no obligation to warn him before attacking.


You have been informed by the Nation of C'tis that there is a defence pact between C'tis and Abysia. This pact was signed long before the NAP between us. And you attacked C'tis knowingly after this information was given to you.


When we made the non-aggression pact, you agreed not to attack Utgard and in exchange I agreed not to attack Abysia. Utgard has kept it's side of the bargain. Peace with C'tis was not part of the NAP. You can not unilaterally add obligations on my part.


BTW i did not even get a PM as a reaction on my PM. Utgard is going right to the world news.

Utgard wrote me:
"Since C'tis refused to sign a NAP with Utgard I am moving to secure my borders. C'tis claims you will weigh in on his side of the conflict due to a defense pact between the two of you.

Are you going to honor your NAP with Utgard?"

You neglected to include the last part of the PM where I said...

If you are uncertain whether a NAP or a defense pact should take precedent, I suggest you ask in the forum. Either the game thread or the general forum would be fine.


I was willing to assume an innocent mistake when you made mutually exclusive treaties and suggested you get advice from neutral parties, instead you simply discarded the NAP with Utgard in favor of your defense pact with C'tis.

[Catquiet]

I'd like to join as C'Tis. I have played two MP games so far but one isnt finished yet.
Also I would like to reserve a spot for a friend who's account hasn't been activated yet. He has one MP game I think and he would like to join as Abysia.


"You have been informed by the Nation of C'tis that there is a defence pact between C'tis and Abysia. This pact was signed long before the NAP between us.

Utgard and Abysia made their NAP on turn 6 (PM dated 7-14-11) and you had a defense pact with C'tis long before that? I know all diplomacy is allowed, but I believe that starting as a team when everyone else is solo would at least violate the spirit of the game.

[Anaconda]

should the host be delayed, a player said he/she wont be back before the weekend is over?

[Herbiedu]

Informing me that you are not going to honor the terms of our NAP is the same as cancelling it.

Just to inform everybody again ... the NAP between Utgard and Abysia is still running jet. I did not break the NAP in any means, did not attack or what so ever. I just told the Nation of Utgard to cancel his war, wich he started, with the Nation of C'tis, and fall back to the old borders, or else the Pact of defence between Abysia and C'tis will have to be fullfilled.
This was a simple warning, which can still be followed by simple means. And to ad something more, this was the 2nd warning, since the nation of C'tis told Utgard about the Pact of Defence BEFORE Utgard attacked C'tis. If he would not have attacked to "secure" his borders, nice american tactik, we all know that, the problem that we are facing now would never have come up.

[Catquiet]

Just to inform everybody again ... the NAP between Utgard and Abysia is still running jet. I did not break the NAP in any means, did not attack or what so ever

You massed troops at my border and told me you might attack before the terms of our NAP expire. That means I have to position troops to defend against a possible attack by you instead of sending them to fight C'tis. You have already hampered my war efforts.

You entered into an extremely long term Non-Aggression Pact with Utgard without bothering to inform us about your Defensive Pact with C'tis. The conflict between the two Pacts was easily foreseeable. The NAP between us was therefore made in bad faith.

[Herbiedu]

Oh yes you got the right to defend your borders versus other nations that you dont have a nap with and i dont?!
The troops you are talking about are in a province that has borders with 2 different players, one of them You. And they have been there ever since we met in the game and you never argued about them the hole time the Nap between us was active. You even made the Nap with me while they were in that province!
So stop telling silly things like i hampered your war efforts to all the other players here in the forum.
And just to inform everybody else, Utgard is still attacking C'tis, even after he got warned in PM by me and C'tis and in all the massages you all read in this forum, and in ingame massages aswell. He had 3 turns in the game to overthink his decision from the moment on he started to mass troops on the C'tis border. He attacked 2 turns in a row without beeing attackt. And he refuses to answer PM and ingame massages aswell.
That kind of behavior makes it impossible for me to keep up the Nap with the nation of Utgard.
Abysia is a nation of honor an will stand side by side with C'tis to defend the attackers from Utgard.
The Nap is hereby cancelled after 3 turns of warning due to the voilating acts of Utgard. There will be no further warning before hostile action is taken ingame.

I hope all the other players i am in contact with ingame and in this forum still see the nation of Abysia as an trustworthy competetor in this game. Abysia is garanteeing all of you that all agreements taken so far in the game will be fullfilled by them at any means. Any hostilities that will take place in the future will be announced in PM's and all conditions of contracts taken with you will be fullfilled to the fullest.

Please contact me via PM if you feel like commenting on anything or have something to talk about with me.

Herbiedu, leader of Abysia

[Umsolfunolanis]

Well, Utgard had been warned not to attack C'tis before Utgard attacked. The warning implied, that a counter attack by Abysia would follow.
So as I see it, all consequences following Utgards aggression had been clearly communicated.

On another note, this is war. So stop whining.

[Catquiet]

Oh yes you got the right to defend your borders versus other nations that you dont have a nap with and i dont?!

You have a right to defend your borders, you don't have a right to break the terms of our NAP.



The troops you are talking about are in a province that has borders with 2 different players, one of them You. And they have been there ever since we met in the game and you never argued about them the hole time the Nap between us was active. You even made the Nap with me while they were in that province!
So stop telling silly things like i hampered your war efforts to all the other players here in the forum.

I didn't argue about the troops because I trusted you would honor our agreement. As soon as you informed me that you were going to break your word those troops became a threat that I had to take into account. How hard is that to understand?



The Nap is hereby cancelled after 3 turns of warning due to the voilating acts of Utgard. There will be no further warning before hostile action is taken ingame.

What violating acts? The only promise I made to you was non-aggression towards Abysia. Making a NAP with someone doesn't give you the right of Veto on all of their future military decisions.


I hope all the other players i am in contact with ingame and in this forum still see the nation of Abysia as an trustworthy competetor in this game. Abysia is garanteeing all of you that all agreements taken so far in the game will be fullfilled by them at any means. Any hostilities that will take place in the future will be announced in PM's and all conditions of contracts taken with you will be fullfilled to the fullest.

You will fulfill the agreements you made by any means, including breaking other agreements that you made? I find your concept of "trustworthy" to be somewhat lacking.

[Soyweiser]

I thought strabo was out this weekend. Could we get an extension?

[Herbiedu]

I don't know... will there be an extansion?

[agelian]

He did say to force it if we are waiting only on him and that he'd accept 1,2 stale turns but I'm not sure if that's a good idea.. he did come on here and tell us that he wouldn't be available so I wouldn't mind waiting for him to be back.

[Bullock]

It seems that my message of the day "Time to meet the neighborhood :) " is getting old regarding the last posts :)

Well, Utgard had been warned not to attack C'tis before Utgard attacked. The warning implied, that a counter attack by Abysia would follow.
So as I see it, all consequences following Utgards aggression had been clearly communicated.

Well i have the same feeling about the situation.
On the other hand i can also understand that Catquiet has a different point of view with NAP as a vet player.
Fortunately everything is allowed in diplomacy ;)

I thought strabo was out this weekend. Could we get an extension?

Like for all players who need to be away for a while without access to internet:
I will lengthen this turn to make a 3 days turn.
Above if you don t want to stall find a sub.
If you fail to find a sub and if there is nobody against the idea to lengthen the turn i ll set more time. (but it has to remain exceptional !)





LET THE WAR BEGIN !! I need corps :D

[Strabo]

I'm back, thanks for extension :)

[Herbiedu]

Where is the turnfile?

Bloody Server is not working ... again!!! :-(

[Strabo]

Where is the turnfile?
On the server long time, but Bloody Server is not working ... again!!! :-(

[Soyweiser]

Charlie Sheen does not care about the war between the lands of fire and the lands of cold. All he cares about is the stupid cultist invasion in his lands. Ermor, could you please get lost? You are not wanted in my lands. Those white powdery mountains are mine!

[Bullock]

Yeah they are looking for a way to flee but things are going wrong for them.
That a shame because they came only with love to share (and few zombies)

[Soyweiser]

And 90+ unrest. And stealing a lot of gems. grrr dislike! dislike! Not winning NOT WINNING!

[Soyweiser]

Thanks for getting out Ermor. Sadly we have to inform you that our provinces are not for sale at the moment. Of course you are still free to make an offer.

Related. Why ain't you people sitesearching more? 60% sites man! GO GO GO! I would have expected bogarus and jomon to have a lot more sites than I do. As they have almost every path.

[agelian]

No magic sites have been found. Gotta love bad luck :D. It's not from lack of trying!

[agelian]

Normally I find quite a lot. Sigh

[Bullock]

I have 17 gold for your white peaks ;)
It doesn t matter i ll pick it later !

About site searching i don t feel very lucky neither =(

[Soyweiser]

Bring more than 50 ghouls and half a dozen priests next time okey?

Ps: I hate those, Here Ermor have a random province events.

[LongBrodie]

I have been searching steadily, I'm just not having much luck, either. >:(

[Herbiedu]

Everybody seems to be unlucky here in sidesearching.

And the Server is frozen again :-(

[Soyweiser]

Well there are some ISP problems I posted about it here: http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=516

[Soyweiser]

Regarding the current to all nations message from R'lyeh.

When we first encountered R'lyeh we made them an offer. Peace in trade for one water province. R'lyeh refused this and offered me the other waters instaid. Water provinced I had to fight through other nations for. This we refused. We then started to prepare for war.

The message in which we asked for help against Ermor was just a ruse send to R'lyeh so he would not freak out due to large military buildup.

All our naps are still in force. We never broke an alliance. As we never even had one.

Abysia, feel free to take back the province we loaned from you. It was a great help! I searched it for you, it also has scouts. Enjoy. (ps, I have 1 pd there).

Edit: wheeee free fort from searching.

[Anaconda]

It might be that I cant play the next turn before late night friday (UTZ) so please delay the host.

This is subject to change and I will update the situation accordingly.

[Bullock]

I will add 48h to the next turn.
Thx for keeping us posted.

[Herbiedu]

Just to inform all of you.
Ill be away from next friday early morning till the following monday evening ... weekend trip into the great wild real world without any connection to the www.

[Soyweiser]

Have fun everybody without WWW.

Whee, second free fort. Did you even sitesearch R'lyeh?

[Anaconda]

it may be that i can, after all, play in faster pace. Will c tonite.

[Bullock]

Just to inform all of you.
Ill be away from next friday early morning till the following monday evening ... weekend trip into the great wild real world without any connection to the www.

Like for anaconda i ll had 48h to the first turn your are about to stall.


BTW i d like to thanks every1 for havings respected your words about fast pacing (even those who are about to die). The game is going very smoothly and people try to do their best when they are busy IRL to not slow the game for others. I really appreciate that.:)

[Bullock]

The mighty and peaceful nation of Ermor has been attacked, without any warning, by Pythium. Therefore we are in war with them and making this official so no one will see there the unfairness of a "little" nation being eaten by a bigger one. :angel

[Bullock]

Sry Anaconda i wanted to extend the hosting for 24h (since you came back before the end of the 48 extension) but i came back 1hour too late. I m probably your only enemy atm so i won t attack you this turn.

[Herbiedu]

Turn 25 will be the last one i can do i guess. Will be away than from tomorrow morning till late monday evening Berlin time.
Hopefully you can extend the turn 26 a little for me ... or just go out into the real world all of you over the weekend ;-)

Have a nice day!

Herbiedu

[Anaconda]

Sry Anaconda i wanted to extend the hosting for 24h (since you came back before the end of the 48 extension) but i came back 1hour too late. I m probably your only enemy atm so i won t attack you this turn.

I appreciate it.

I am curretly in London and for somereason my reg yahoo account doesnt seem to work here properly. Got my turn done early yesterday but couldnt find a spot from where to submit it (where yahoo would have worked)

[Bullock]

Don t wry i ll extend the turn 26 as soon as it pops up.

Turn 25 will be the last one i can do i guess. Will be away than from tomorrow morning till late monday evening Berlin time.
Hopefully you can extend the turn 26 a little for me ... or just go out into the real world all of you over the weekend ;-)

Have a nice day!

Herbiedu

[Bullock]

Anyone want to trade their Astral gems for some fire or water ?
I m also looking for a dwarven hammer, i pay well :p

[Umsolfunolanis]

Dwarven hammers? What do I need to forge them in CBM?

[Bullock]

i think it s contruc 2 with a mage E3

[Soyweiser]

Actually, the dwarven hammer is a artifact now. Sorry, so there will only be one.

[Bullock]

Ty for the info Soyweiser. Well i m still buying the only one in the game if there is a seller :)

I m still looking to trade my water/fire gems for some astral.
I m trading 1.5gems for 1astral.

Now concerning the hosting i have added the usual 48h which lengthen the turn up to monday morning which means prolly a stall from abysia for only few hours missing. So unless someone is against the idea of adding few hours so abysia could take his turn in the evening i ll do so.

[Soyweiser]

Well if a few more hours wait prevent a stall, I'm all for a few hours more waiting.

[Anaconda]

Yea, add some hours I'd say.

[Herbiedu]

Thanks for giving me that few hours ... they came just fine! :-)
I'm back and happy not having missed a turn!

[Bullock]

Glad to see you back in time.

I m thinking about raising the turn length to 36h in the next few turns unless some people are against or want even more.

[Herbiedu]

Why is Midgard still in the game since they have 0 Provinces? Just a question.

[agelian]

The graph is different to the rules.. the graph gives the province to the sieger.. but the rule for death counts a sieged provs as the owners.. so according to the rules they still have 1 province even though it says different on the graphs :D

[Soyweiser]

Well, they are still in the game because Jomon is trying to take a capital fort without mage support :).

The battles have been fun to watch. Jomon, even some magical artillery would have given you the fort on the first try. It would probably break the bottleneck that the fort entrance is.

A well, you will have the cap in two turns.

[Anaconda]

Giants gave up?

[Anaconda]

Is the turn interval now 48H?

[Soyweiser]

For sale, rings of wizardry. Make an offer. (and make it big ;) ).

[Herbiedu]

Since i'm a noob ... what is the difference between wazardry and sorcery in the game?

And i think i cannot affort your ring ;-)

[Herbiedu]

48 h turn interval would be nice jep

[agelian]

1 gold coin for the ring :D

herbi it gives +1 to all magic and +1 penetration...

great for getting boosters on paths without empowering up!

[Soyweiser]

Basically it is one of the most important and expensive non artifact items. http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Ring_of_Wizardry it requires a very high astral lvl to forge. A great diversity tool. But looking at the high number of rainbow pretenders around I'm not convinced that anybody needs one :D.

[Herbiedu]

You got me wrong ... the wiki says that there is a "ring of wizardry" and a "ring of sorcery" ... what is the differenz between them?

one gives +1 to magic ... and one +1 to sorcery ... what is the difference?


And by the way ... my bid is 2 Gold and a pair of worn socks ;-)

[Soyweiser]

ow right, wizardry is all paths sorcery is only death, blood, astral and nature. Elemental is fire water air and earth.

[Soyweiser]

Ps, wow this game is high paced.

And thanks for playing Strabo, and The Kurgan!

[Strabo]

Thanks for the game everybody, have refreshed Dominions 3 a bit :)

[Bullock]

What? you want to slow down such a fast game ?? :)
Alright alright let it be !

So from now on turn are 48h length. If there is more people wanting 36 instead of 48h i ll switch. However i keep the maximum length to 72h in case some1 has to go away.

Thanks for the game to all of those who have left us recently. R.I.P :angel

[Soyweiser]

Declaring war on ME ermor? VERY bad move. And you need more than 500 undead to take on my armies.

This betrayal will be your last. For while you fight over small borderlands, I will stab at your heartland. And take you out once and for all!

[Bullock]

As i told you i m not seeking war but you ve been very greedy by taking lands so far from your cap and so near from mine. I m only aiming those lands that s why i didn t attack seas with your damn temples.

Btw i don t see any betrayal since no nap nor anything were active.

[Soyweiser]

Well of course I need to take those lands. More lands for you mean more undead, more innnocents dying to the great evils you have awoken. We have already slain one of the great threats to this world.

So you are saying your attack of me is like my attack on R'lyeh, or Pythiums attack on you? ;).

[Bullock]

Well actually all i see is a Vet threatening a Noob.
Noobs from all over the world join me to defeat the fishies !

[Anaconda]

It strikes me that we the noobs fight each other for crumbs while the major powers have already claimed the game.

[Soyweiser]

Well, I assume you are all planning some sort of epic backstab that leaves me with only the seas :D.

If not, well, get to planning all you. Just kill ermor first. :D

[Soyweiser]

lovely... it won't send my turn, and I even requested a new one.

[Bullock]

I can only see 2 reasons for that:

1- The server is angry with you cause u have attacked an innocent noob.
2- the server was down while you ask for the resend (but now the downtime of the server are shorter)

Tell me if the problem is still remaining i ll contact the llama.

[Soyweiser]

it is fixed :D

[Bullock]

The llamaserver has some trouble sending the turn files.
If you didn't get your file ask for a resend trough the website.
Take the time to check the status of the game punctually so you won't miss a turn in case the turn file didn t reach you.

Don't forget also to kill the fishies !

[Anaconda]

If you wonder what that prolonged rain is.... its the cry of the Maiar because Basileus, the god of the evergreen swamps is slain.

[Soyweiser]

Ermor, no amount of threatening is going to convince me to call off the attack.

The only way all our nations are going to survive is we kill you Ermor. So sorry, peace is not an option.

I strongly urge the rest of the nations that surround Ermor to do the same.

[Bullock]

If you wonder what that prolonged rain is.... its the cry of the Maiar because Basileus, the god of the evergreen swamps is slain.

R.I.P. Basileus, god of the evergreen swamps.

Ermor, no amount of threatening is going to convince me to call off the attack.

The only way all our nations are going to survive is we kill you Ermor. So sorry, peace is not an option.

I strongly urge the rest of the nations that surround Ermor to do the same.

I want to remind everybody that we are a peaceful nation. We have only invaded those who tried to claim our lands. We don t plan to grow further after the current war and wish to live in peace for a while with the remaining nations. We would even be pleased to sign a peace treaty with Atlantis, the invader, despite the damage they caused to us.

But since they don t want to go back to their home, we are seeking any help possible. I kill the invading troops you take his territories, sounds like a pretty good deal ... !

Edit: I want also to remind everybody that Atlantis has crazy incomes, especially gems which make him far more dangerous than me ...

[Soyweiser]

*Cough* ****** *Cough* :D

Sorry, I don't have the time nor the mental energy to play the diplomacy game atm.

Other nations, do as you think is wise. Just look at the troop damage I did and at what cost to my own. And I have easy access to anti undead spells. (As anybody can see in the HoF :D).

Ow, and Atlantis is not a peaceful nation. We desire to crush you all. But at least we are not lying to you :D.

[Herbiedu]

R.I.P. Basileus it was a pleasure competing with you.

[Soyweiser]

Ermor, stop trying to moveblock my armies. It is kind of a dick move.

[Umsolfunolanis]

3 Provinces left :(
Gotta rework my tactics a little bit..
What is moveblocking??

[Bullock]

Ermor, stop trying to moveblock my armies. It is kind of a dick move.

Well the main purpose of this is to have an accurate intel about your troops... and btw it doesn t seem to have blocked ur troops did it ?

Is that considered as an exploit like bogus orders ?

[Soyweiser]

Whoops, I'm having one of those weeks. Accidentally send the wrong turn to the server. Send in a partially completed turn.

Well it did not stop any armies yet. But it is considered to be a bad move. Sending out single commanders just to attack/scout. As one commander can stop entire armies.

[Bullock]

Well it did not stop any armies yet. But it is considered to be a bad move. Sending out single commanders just to attack/scout. As one commander can stop entire armies.

Well i experienced something different in an other game.
I ve been attacked by a lonely SC, an army that was quite large and planning to move to an other prov.

The turn ran like this : My army defend the province from the SC and then moved to the wished prov.

So i guess my scout will never block your army will they?

[Soyweiser]

It will, there are chances that an army will be blocked, and there are chances it will move on. Dunno about the exact numbers. But it is high enough to make it a possible tactic. Recruit one commander each turn, and send it against the army.

[Catquiet]

Well i experienced something different in an other game.
I ve been attacked by a lonely SC, an army that was quite large and planning to move to an other prov.

The turn ran like this : My army defend the province from the SC and then moved to the wished prov.



Did that SC come at you from the province you were moving to or did it teleport into the province?

[Bullock]

Well i experienced something different in an other game.
I ve been attacked by a lonely SC, an army that was quite large and planning to move to an other prov.

The turn ran like this : My army defend the province from the SC and then moved to the wished prov.



Did that SC come at you from the province you were moving to or did it teleport into the province?

He had a stuff making him flying.
So i guess he came with it.

[Soyweiser]

Well, flying like, sailing, teleporting, sneaking etc, works differently.

Ps: if you really want to moveblock, don't forget to set the commander to retreat. Try it in SP. :D

[Bullock]

Come on guys take the opportunity that showed up with atlantis emptying his land to attack me !

Take his rich prov full of gems and gold while i m taking the loss to fight against him !!

[Herbiedu]

Could you please hold the actual turn till monday morning 9:00? I am unforseable not at home and wont make it till then.

[Bullock]

I add 24h so you have 'til monday 18h gmt

[Soyweiser]

Well that was a bad turn. Losing 15+ cap only mages hurts a lot.

If nobody else starts to fight ermor he has won basically.

(And stealing the GoH was stupid. It weakend me a lot, thanks for that).

[Anaconda]

I told these guys already :(

[Herbiedu]

What GoH?

[Bullock]

Well that was a bad turn. Losing 15+ cap only mages hurts a lot.


nah it was more 8-10 and few ind mages ;)
I have run after them for so long lol i m glad i ve finally managed to kill some of them. Thx to my pretender and my SC cause all the others fled

GoH => Gift of Health

[Herbiedu]

Did i steal it??? I casted the spell, its a protection for my little hubbies who defend their homes.

No really ... i thought it was not active when i casted it?!?

[Soyweiser]

Yeah, it was. I have it back now. And also, it finally healed one mage with randoms I needed. :D

[Bullock]

Yeah, it was. I have it back now. And also, it finally healed one mage with randoms I needed. :D

Can some1 take this Goh back ??
All the tedious work of my pretender is going in smoke ! ;)

[Bullock]

The peaceful nation of Ermor has a new scare on his back ... Jomon has betrayed us despite our generous gift.

I m willing to share his territory with any1 who is going to help.

Ermor

[LongBrodie]

Betrayal? I told you in no uncertain terms that I would have to be crazy to be your ally. I was perfectly willing to take advantage of anything you would offer freely to me, of course, but I did not agree to even a NAP between our nations. Now the time has come for Jomon to crusade against the undead, as Atlantis is having trouble keeping your power in check.

[Bullock]

You asked for a sea province so you could get some specific national troops to go against Atlantis.

I m not referring to the Ctis cap i gave you as goodwill.

But well that doesn't matter much, like all those who tried to claim my lands you and your people will die in agony muhahaha.:skull:

[Soyweiser]

Bullock, I assume the 50 air gems where send to me in error. Who should really get them?

[Bullock]

Haaa so YOU get them =p
Well it was a missclick. It would be very fairplay to send them back :)

[Soyweiser]

I could also forward them to the guy you wanted them to have. So, who wants them?

[Anaconda]

I could also forward them to the guy you wanted them to have. So, who wants them?

lol


this is almost as interesting as still being with you guys!

[Bullock]

I could also forward them to the guy you wanted them to have. So, who wants them?

Don t wry about that, i have sent something else instead :)

[Bullock]

Thx for sending the gems back, i really appreciate !

[Anaconda]

waaat? you made peace? why?

a new, more potent contestor for the heavenly throne is come? whos that?

[Bullock]

Nah there is no peace possible with Atlantis.
I ve just made a mistake sending 50A to him instead of a mysterious player ;)
And Soy has played that with much fairplay by sending them back.