Llamaserver troubles

[wonderloss]

Llamabeast,

Since I am not sure if you have not had a chance to read my PMs, or if your box might be full, I am reposting here. Our game, DawnoftheMorning (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=DawnOfTheMorning) is unplayable right now.

Originally the turn spontaneously went back to turn 47 after turn 48 had already hosted. There was no notification, and a replacement turn file was not sent out.

We decided to try to move on ahead. Everyone resubmitted their turn 47 .2h files. It processed. Everyone received a turn 49 where everyone staled, and llamaserver.net only shows turn 48. Llamaserver rejects new turns as well. It seems that the server that proceses the incoming turn files and the dom3 host are no longer in sync. What can we do?

[llamabeast]

I'm sorry not to have answered your PMs wonderloss, I have been away a lot and my personal life is in upheaval at the moment. Thanks for your patience.

This should be easy to fix - I will try to do it this evening.

[wonderloss]

There seems to be a lot of personal upheaval going around. I know I have seen my fair share lately.

Thanks for all your work with the server.

[llamabeast]

Hopefully it's fixed now. :)

[Stretch]

The Chosen Ones isn't updating. We had it on a 1 week delay and are nearing the end of that week. It hasnt updated in 14 hours even though at least one of the remaining players has sent a turn in. Not sure if this is an issue for other games as well.

[FAJ]

No llamaserver games are updating. I am sure llamabeast is aware and will fix it whenever he has the opportunity.

[Bullock]

Well, he came here several times since the server is down.
So i guess the problem is worse than the usual ISP issue, or he didn't watch his PM and so he s not aware of the problem.

I hope he will keep us posted.

[llamabeast]

Oh dear.

At the risk of breaking rules of internet forwardness, I am currently at home with my mother since my stepfather passed away after a short illness on Friday. Apparently the server back at my house in Cambridge has turned itself off and won't turn on. I guess hopefully I will get a chance to look at it in the next few days.

An odd side effect of all this is that I am about to release CB1.9 - I have been polishing it over the last few days to take my mind off things. Not a lot else to do.

[Bullock]

Sorry for your loss Llama.
And thx for the infos.

[Stretch]

Oh no... I'm sorry to hear that llama. :( Sorry to press you, don't worry about it!

[jimbojones1971]

Very sorry to hear about your loss. Please accept my condolences, and best wishes to both you and your mother.

[LoloMo]

Our condolences, Llama. Don't worry about the server, we can wait. We can all take this opportunity to go out and get some sun, or rain as the case may be :)

[Soyweiser]

Sorry to hear about your loss. Condolences Llama.

[Gandalf Parker]

Sorry to hear of your problems. Ive been thru that.
Do what needs done and be welcomed back when you get back

[Deadnature]

Hey llama, thank you for keeping us in the loop, but don't worry about the server, condolences.

[LDiCesare]

Condolences llama.

[WraithLord]

I'm sorry for your loss llama. I have passed a similar sad experience like six years ago. It was a terrible loss so really my condolences to you and your family.

[WraithLord]

Thanks for restoring the server!

BTW, for some reasons it thinks it got all but one of the .2h files for the *newly sent* turn in DHG (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?p=783180#post783180)game.

[Anaconda]

llamaserver is not updating...

[WraithLord]

yes it is :)

[Anaconda]

For an hour it wasnt :o

[shatner]

Llamaserver seems to be having issues again. I've read in a few places of people having issues but the one piece of concrete proof of misbehavior I have is that MorlaLAnoob (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MorlaLAnoob) is set to autohost, has received turn files from all the players but hasn't hosted the game yet.

[Morla]

Yes, i´m having a few issues with my 3 games.Original names ah :rolleyes:

--->MorlaEAnoob(http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MorlaEAnoob)

--->MorlaMAnoob(http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MorlaMAnoob)

--->MorlaLanoob(http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MorlaLAnoob)

[Lihaässä]

Force host doesn't work - I've waited now 30 min.

Thanks allready!

[llamabeast]

Yeah it's behaving very oddly. I'll fix it either tonight or tomorrow morning.

[llamabeast]

Well I couldn't figure out the problem so I restarted the machine. So far as I can tell it's working now! Fingers crossed because I'm about to go to bed...

[shatner]

I'm guessing Llamaserver is having troubles again. None of the four games I'm in have updated since around noon today. I sent in my turn for one of them, twice, and have had no response and still show as "Waiting for 2h file".

[krpeters]

Same here, I'm on my third attempt and it's ignoring me so far, not even acknowledging the email reply.

[Immaculate]

same....

[Bullock]

There is a refresh time at the bottom of every lama's page. Currently the refresh has stopped yesterday at 10pm

[ghoul31]

Llamaserver is sending out turns from 5 turns ago.

[Wyvern2]

The Wetfeet10 game is still stuck at trying to start. We have 11 players all with pretenders uploaded, and the auto-start set to on (have also tried to force start the game a number of times), but still getting no luck. Has been in this state for 2 or 3 days now.

[Wyvern2]

Wetfeet10 is up and running - thankyou! :)

[Lihaässä]

It seems that Llamaserver is changing hosting schedule on it's own. Game called Dreams of Ghatanothoa was supposed to be hosted 17:19 GMT today. I looked at the game page and the hosting was changed to 05:11 GMT on Tuesday.

I decided to force host just to keep the pace but nothing seems to happen. Any ideas?

[Bullock]

I ve got a weird bug, in one of my game, where i m playing LA Ermor, all my troops are gone, i have nothing left not even a ghoul or a zombie. But in the end of turn reports i have some actions of my troops (fight, spy ...)

I downloaded the turn 2 times + a 3rd time after asking for a resend, but nothing has changed.

Did any1 have met this problem before ?

[llamabeast]

Not a server problem. Either:

1) A previously unreported dom3 bug, or

2) You have suffered a dominion defeat (no friendly candles left).

[Bullock]

Wow thx for this quick answer

1) Maybe
2) No i have lot of territories with a quite strong dom. Btw i can still play, i m not dead.

[Bullock]

Disregard my previous post, it was a mistake in the setting of victory condition.

[Scaramuccia]

What is the downtime of server that is a trouble? More than 5 min, More than hour, More than several hours.

Right now I have message last update 40 min ago in Dreadful_Fates_II. Is it to early to report problem?

[shatner]

I think Llamaserver is having troubles again. MorlaMAnoob (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MorlaMAnoob) has received a turn from every player but hasn't posted yet. And none of my other games have posted, or look to have updated since this morning, which has only ever happened when Llamaserver was having trouble. Also the PointySticks game seems deeply confused (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=PointySticks) about when it should host saying "Next turn due: nation_84::Ulm ".

Anyone else having problems?

[sansanjuan]

Also YARG3 has not auto hosted for some time now.
-ssj

[jimbojones1971]

I think Llamaserver is having troubles again. MorlaMAnoob (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MorlaMAnoob) has received a turn from every player but hasn't posted yet. And none of my other games have posted, or look to have updated since this morning, which has only ever happened when Llamaserver was having trouble. Also the PointySticks game seems deeply confused (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=PointySticks) about when it should host saying "Next turn due: nation_84::Ulm ".

Anyone else having problems?

MaliciousMushroomsv2 is having the same issues as MorlaMAnoob - all turns are in, but it isn't hosting and I can't force it to host either (requested, but thus far ignored).

Sounds like the poor llamaserver is in a bit of a tangle at the moment.

[WraithLord]

YARG3 has strange status. On the one hand all the turns are in (# 24), yet OtoH game has not hosted and says: "Next turn due: 12:19 GMT on Saturday October 22nd ".

Also there update clock is out of sync.:
"Last updated at 08:16 GMT on Saturday October 22nd
Current time: 08:58 GMT"

Looks like vacation time :p

[Immaculate]

Game: Immaculate002LateAgeNoobs
Turn number 10
Next turn due: 03:05 GMT on Sunday October 23rd

Good luck all y'all

Atlantis 2h file received
Chelms 2h file received
Gath 2h file received
Jomon 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Patala 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received


Last updated at 11:41 GMT on Saturday October 22nd
Current time: 11:42 GMT






Next turn due: 03:05 GMT on Sunday October 23rd

Hosting interval: 56 hours
Quickhost mode: On



So i guess the problem is the same as MorlaMaNoobs- it didn't host. :(

[earcaraxe]

High Five too.

(and btw thanks llama for making it possible for have these kind of problems! (i mean instead of having to play hotseat (im serious))

[LDiCesare]

Same for Cyberclassique. I suppose all games may be suffering the same issue?

[Wyvern2]

Same for Cyberclassique. I suppose all games may be suffering the same issue?

Looks like they are. Wetfeet10 has all turns submitted but isn't auto-hosting or force-hosting. We'll all just have to be patient, i'm sure it'll be solved shortly.

[edit - just as I posted this our game's turn ticked, so looks like things are working again!]

[WraithLord]

YARG3 has hosted :)
I guess the problem is gone...

[LDiCesare]

Things are back to normal. Thanks llamabeast once more. Some of the virgins I'll be sacrificing in my game will be for you.

[llamabeast]

No probs, sorry about that.

[Lihaässä]

There has been some problems with Llamaserver today.

1. Game, DreamsOfGhatanothoa's hosting was postponed automatically by 8 hours.
2. Player's turn was updated to the server only after two hours.
3. Force hosting command works unusually slow.

Thanks again for running this awesome server!

- Lihaässä

[earcaraxe]

the game "fame and riches" didnt host, but it should have.

many thanks!

[Anaconda]

Yes, there has been many a problem within last, say, 24H.

[Terran]

All games are gone!

[Korwin]

All games are gone!

Wanted to say: Good. Joke.
But holy ****, its True!

[triqui]

Llamaserver
< snip >
Games currently running:
None

[llamabeast]

Hmm, they all seem to be back now!

[shatner]

ShatnerMA (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ShatnerMA) sent out turn 7 this morning (as was expected). Unfortunately, it currently says it is in turn 6 and won't accept the turn files that are being submitted to it.

Aside from asking for intervention by Llamabeast, is there anything I, as the game's administrator, can do to rectify this?

[Jiggymike]

I'm having a problem with Randomocalypse, it's still on turn 8 and I'm trying to submit my turn but then I get an e-mail saying I'm supposed to submit turn 9. I know that the turn's not due for another few hours.

[Korwin]

delete the 2h file and resend/redownload/redo the turn?

[Jiggymike]

delete the 2h file and resend/redownload/redo the turn?

Nope, still didn't work. Hopefully Valerius gets my message in the thread, something is screwy.

OK my last turn submitted successfully, it just didn't reflect on the server. Something still seems to be wrong, though, as it claims our next turn is due in a few hours.

[llamabeast]

Hopefully I fixed everything last night. Let me know if I didn't (although I may be unable to do anything till Sunday night as I'm going away with my family).

I've discovered that recently if I don't reboot the server every week or two then it goes slowly mad. I think it's because of a memory leak in Minecraft (the llamaserver is also a minecraft server of late).

[shatner]

When I email my turn file into Llamaserver I am getting my usual "turn received" email as well as another email containing the following:

subject Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
mailed-by gator543.hostgator.com

...

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: llamaturns3@gmail.com
(ultimately generated from turns@llamaserver.net)

...

The email account that you tried to reach is over quota.


This happens every time I submit a turn (regardless of whether it's a revision turn or not), regardless of which game I'm submitting to. The initial email as well as the Llamaserver site indicate that my turns are being received but I'm wanting to alert Llamabeast to the a possible problem as well as make sure that my turns are actually being received.

[Korwin]

Got the same mail. But turns seems to be OK.
Llamaserver shows it as received.

Edit:
Got the mail for Randomocalypse
(http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Randomocalypse)

[LDiCesare]

Same here. Mail gets acknowledged, but I also get a bounce from a gmail address.

[Anaconda]

I get those announcements also, but the turns sent in seem to work properly.

[krpeters]

OK, I can't seem to get llamaserver to send me the next turn. Maybe someone reset it?

[shatner]

In ShatnerMA, one of my players is unable to have his turn received by Llamaserver as part of the email issues. I've gone to my game's llamaserver page and verified that his turn hasn't gone through. This escalates this issue from weird to genuinely game-disrupting.

When I send my turn I get the following message:

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

llamaturns3@gmail.com
(ultimately generated from turns@llamaserver.net)
SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<llamaturns3@gmail.com>:
host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.65.27]:
552-5.2.2 The email account that you tried to reach is over quota. Please direct
552-5.2.2 the recipient to
552 5.2.2 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6558 h46si6451568yhk.148


I think we need to put a delay on the turn until llamaserver is ok again. I'll stall otherwise.

[shatner]

Is this because llamaturns3@gmail has reached it's maximum inbox size of 7,638mb?

[Moanerette]

I just got the same message when I sent my turn in for Immaculate's game, but I also got a turn received message and then the next turn, which is rather confusing.

[WraithLord]

Same here. I get these errors:
"
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

llamaturns3@gmail.com
(ultimately generated from turns@llamaserver.net)
SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<llamaturns3@gmail.com>:
host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [74.125.65.27]:
552-5.2.2 The email account that you tried to reach is over quota. Please direct
552-5.2.2 the recipient to
552 5.2.2 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6558 i7si6528672yhe.26
"

Notice the bold message. Looks like the mail get's there and I get a confirmation back but it could be just some grace until the quota would be enforced in truth.

[lch]

Did anybody light the llama signal yet?

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[TigerBlood]

A number of games have recieved all turns, yet do not seem to be hosting. Just a heads up in case people were not aware.

[WraithLord]

YARG3 has:
1. quickhost on
2. "Next turn due: 21:18 GMT on Wednesday November 23rd "
3. Last updated at 21:41 GMT on Wednesday November 23rd
Current time: 21:42 GMT

Yet so far the combination of the three factors doesn't yield the expected hosting.

[shatner]

We're having the same situation over in ShatnerMA and Immaculate002LateAgeNoobs. I'm the admin for the first game but I'm afraid to force the game to host after we've had two stalls caused by rollback issues and the server not accepting turns when they're sent in.

Maybe we should light up another Llama Signal
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/094/d/f/Kevin_the_SUPER_HERO_Llama_by_geans123.png

[Lihaässä]

Same thing with EA Game - Dreams of Ghatanothoa.

[Korwin]

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Randomocalypse
Not hosting too. (One Nation would stall)
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Noobaclysm
Detto, but all nations submitted their turn.

[Korwin]

llamaserver seems to be working again :D

[Squirrelloid]

Lighting the Llama-beacon again. Llamaserver is stuck.

[Terran]

:(

Llama, where are you???

[choibill]

The email account that you tried to reach is over quota.
this is the error msg i got.
hope it can be fixed soon.

[Bullock]

we need a dedicated server Shrapnel !

[triqui]

we need a dedicated server Shrapnel !

I agree...

[TigerBlood]

Woohoo! It appears that the server is updating and all games have had their turns extended. Thank you Llama.

[Immaculate]

it tells me that all my turn submissions are somehow wrong.

EDIT: so i resubmitted but no response yet- hopefully they will be accepted.


THanks lama for this service.

[Squirrelloid]

Llamaserver seems to be stuck... again... (After spitting back most of my turns as not being 2h files or some nonsense).

[Immaculate]

yeah, same here.

[triqui]

Yep, I got a lot of weird emails too :(
Including one that says me I haven't sent my turn for a game that host in 12 hours. A game that I'm not playing... (QT3RAND)

[Olm]

MorlaMANoobs has received all turns but didn't host yet. No strange mails here.
Perhaps the server is just a bit busy after the problems?

Edit:
Updated again at 20:12, still no hosting.

We three could do some diplomacy, while we are waiting here :)
I am especially curios of an answer from Immaculate. Perhaps we can arrange for some Jotun-beating.

[dehm]

we need a dedicated server Shrapnel !

I agree...

+1 It has done a lot of for the game

[triqui]

I resent my MorlaMA turn. I got an email that says "no 2h file found", and a email that says "VenganzaCaelum2 turn received" (which I do not play)

[llamabeast]

Hi all,

Really sorry for this. I've got halfway through fixing it but it's got a bit complicated (has hosted a few games it shouldn't have) and I am very, very tired, so I will turn it off and finish fixing it in the morning. In the meantime many apologies for the inconvenience.

llama

[Immaculate]

Llama,

Thank you for all your efforts and know that they are appreciated.

[WraithLord]

Looks like the server is hosting but not sending turn files. Not even when manually requesting to send files.
I strongly recommend to all MP game admins to postpone their game’s hosting until the problem is solved. Otherwise all the players will stale in case there is hosting.

[Mightypeon]

Thanks for the headsup Lama, best wishes to you!

[llamabeast]

Okay! I think we are back to normal. :) Once again, sorry for that rather nasty outage.

Let me know if you come across any residual issues.

[RonD]

Bravo!

And - thank you :clap:

[Bullock]

Thanks a lot for all the time you spend for us on this server.

:you:

[Olm]

Okay! I think we are back to normal. :) Once again, sorry for that rather nasty outage.

Let me know if you come across any residual issues.


Llamaservers shows my file as being received for Man in MorlaMANoobs.
I did not send a file for this turn.
Probably no issue, unless I am the last one to send my real turn.

[Terran]

Is stuck again?

Was waiting for a turn now at :17, but its stuck.... :(

[tratorix]

All games under currently running on llamaserver seem to have disappeared.

[triqui]

Yep

"Games currently running:
None"

[Morla]

i just send my turn ULM-MorlaMAnoob, llamserver accepted the file and then...
"Games currently running:
None".

[Olm]

And I have been waiting for exactly that file for hours :(

[Olm]

All games back again, ours has hosted, but I received no file.

[triqui]

I did. Try asking for a manual research

[Olm]

Got mine too, Morla, perhaps you should resend the file to everyone.

[Bullock]

I'm not sure but i think there is a problem with the server for sending the new turn files even after asking for a resend.

[Wyvern2]

A few of the players (though not everyone) in our game are also complaining that they aren't getting the turn, even on a resend request.

Any ideas what we (or i as the game admin) can do?

[RonD]

I kept trying every couple of hours. My turn eventually got sent.

If you are worried (or if your game is on a fast clock), it couldn't hurt to extend the hosting interval for a while.

[Bullock]

As RonD suggested i ve tried again for a resend and it worked at the first time.

[Rezo]

Llamabeast i sent a pm a couble of hours ago. Our game vanished!!!

Thamk you for your efforts

[llamabeast]

Just to let you all know I've seen this and will look into it this evening.

Essentially all the problems are caused by my ISP (or perhaps their router) being rubbish. Maybe I should look into changing.

[triqui]

I think a round of donations will be helpful. I'll do it now :)

[Wyvern2]

I kept trying every couple of hours. My turn eventually got sent.

If you are worried (or if your game is on a fast clock), it couldn't hurt to extend the hosting interval for a while.

We seem to be all sorted out in our game now - I reset one players email address, and the other eventually got the turn after selecting the resend option.

[Terran]

Problems again.

Seem that some bastard tried to add loads of crappy games.

:(

We need a Dom3 server!!!

[Bullock]

omg... what a moron...

Thx again Llama for the time you spend on this

[Gandalf Parker]

Yes Thank You LLamaBeast for the work you put in keeping the server running. It is greatly appreciated

Problems again.

Seem that some bastard tried to add loads of crappy games.

:(

We need a Dom3 server!!!
There are 5 servers that I know of. Altho LLamaServer is about the only one for menu-setup email-style games

If you mean an official server then it would likely be like the Goons Game Server which only makes it easy to sign up and check multiple games to see if they turned. It doesnt actually host any of the games.

[Morla]

Something odd happened in two of the games i am playind and also i am the admin. I postponed hosting and the server shows the new time when the turn will host but it really didn´t work. I staled in both games.

The games are MorlaEAnoob and MorlaMAnoob.

[Morla]

I extended MorlaMAnoob 24h but the timer didn´t change.

-Next turn due: 05:35 GMT on Saturday December 17th, instead of
05:35 GMT on Sunday December 18th. And if you see the admin log the extension was made.

[llamabeast]

Aaargh, really? I am fairly sure that it will work if you try it again. Sorry though. I think this is where the internet connection cuts out partway through the postponing process, but I should look into it and see if I can prevent that happening. Seems you have been pretty unlucky with your postponings!

[Morla]

Fixed, i just had to insist.
THX

[Bananadine]

Suddenly my game is not listed, and my .h e-mail receives no response! It is a disturbing thing.

[Bullock]

I think i have a bug in this game :
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=TheChosenOnes

I m supposed to submit turn 68 and he his asking me for turn 69.
I had already sent my turn 68 while the server wasn't responding but after an hour or two i had a confirmation by mail that my turn was received.
The server was updating again but was still waiting for my turn. So i resubmited the turn and now i receive a mail telling me that the serv is waiting for a turn 69 and not 68.

[Korwin]

Maybe the turn rolled and you did not get the new turn?

[Bananadine]

I'm in a similar situation... my game has returned to the listing of games, and the server seems to have "hosted" the turn, but no new .trn file has come. I don't think my orders were lost, but something is clearly wrong.

[Bullock]

Ok so in my case the turn 68 was indeed done.
but the llamapage still show the deadline of turn 68 and doesn't seems to have updated the turn status of each players (he is still only waiting for my turn).

I don't think it s browser cache issue since the turn number is correctly stated (t69).

Anyway i will play and submit my turn and see what happens.

[Bananadine]

I requested that my turn be resent, and after a somewhat long while it was indeed resent. Everything looks fine to me now.

[Peter Ebbesen]

Wetfeet11 currently stalled;

All turns received, quickhost is on, but no hosting taking place.

[Bullock]

same thing for this game :
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Sticks_and_Bones

Also the deadline of many games seems to be changing alone, and most game have the same deadline now which is quite weird. (unless it's a local problem, cf my post above)

[llamabeast]

I finally found the bug which has been causing games to pause a lot, and fixed it. Sorry about all the pausing.

The server postpones hosting when it knows it's not working well, so probably that would explain your changed hosting times. Also there have been a number of pauses recently (because of the aforementioned bug), and when they end all the games host at once and so their hosting times tend to coincide.

Apologies again for the unreasonably high incidence of issues recently. When I coded the llamaserver I had a much better internet connection (a university one) so it's not yet super robust against the appalling shoddiness which is Virgin Media's home broadband. We're getting there though.

[kosomoko]

In the venganzacaelum2 (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=VenganzaCaelum2) the game made two turn 60. The last turn 60 people recibe the *.trn perfect, but the game thinking are in 60 instead of 61. You can repair?

[WraithLord]

Just reporting two issues I've noticed:
a. Server doesn't seem to be sending turn files reliably. My last two turns I got after asking for resend.

b. Last .2h file I sent it took the server near 16h to send the "Turn received for ..." and it still doesn't list my nation as "2h file received".

[Mightypeon]

I currently see "none" active game on llamaserver.
If I manually access one via bookmark, I get "Sorry, but this is not a real URL" or something.

[kosomoko]

Thanks Llamabeast for fixes, and for making it so fast these days that complicated. Thank you many enjoy this great game

[Peter Ebbesen]

Llamaserver seems to have stalled again; The latest page updates are from 14:16 GMT Friday 3rd, roughly 8h ago, and it doesn't seem to be responding to either turns or (if I understood the guy who is admining our game right), admin commands to change the hosting time.

[Torin]

true, pretender cant be uploaded

[llamabeast]

One or two games have disappeared today, sorry. I will restore them tomorrow.

[WraithLord]

Server status Last updated at 18:54 GMT on Saturday February 4th. It doesn't confirm getting turns nor displays admin changes like postponing host.

[Bwaha]

Imgbot is down as well, otherwise I'd put the Llama sign up...

;)

[llamabeast]

I think it's fixed. Thanks for your patience. Somehow all the mods and maps disappeared, and I discovered that Memopal is pretty good at backing stuff automatically, and VERY VERY HARD to re-download your backed up files.

[Bwaha]

Yep all is good at this end.

Thanks again for your tireless care...

(It seems the Llama Sign is lost to time...)

Sigh...

I thought it was both funny and cool...

[DarkAvenger211]

I can't seem to start a game. We've tried 3 times so far and every time the last person submits their pretender it just deletes the game. Any idea whats going on?

[curtadams]

Llamasever is down again; last game update is 10:09 GMT Saturday.

[3V4JKZ2]

I'm a new player running a game on Llama server; http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=48330

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=TheAscensionWars

Something really strange is going on here; not sure what I'm doing? It looks like all the players have been dropped?

I'm sorry if I screwed this up somehow.

[Korwin]

Nations are back, but server seems to be frozen again?
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=TheAscensionWars

[3V4JKZ2]

Seems to have sorted out, a few people had to resend turn 3's, but otherwise looks good.

[Bullock]

Thx Llama, it seems to work properly now

[Torin]

seems like llamaserver isnt receiving turns

[Executor]

seems like llamaserver isnt receiving turns

It's been stuck for a few hours now.

"Last updated at 17:48 GMT on Saturday February 25th."

[Torgon]

Looks like everything is stuck again. It wont recognize any of the turns I send in.

[WraithLord]

Server is still stuck :(

Llama is doing a great service and I don't have enough words to thank him.
However recently the server's spells of no service are becoming increasingly annoying. Enough so that I'm seriously considering manually hosting the next game I admin.
I wish shrapnel would pay llama and give him all the equipment and infrastructure he needs so we have a more robust server.

Llama, don't take it the wrong way. I know you have a life and many important things to do besides baby sitting the server voluntarily. So again thank you so much!!!

[HoleyDooley]

+1.

Thx Llama

[Torgon]

+1, it really is a great service that he's providing.

Just a quick question for Llama, how averse are you to sharing the code you've used for the Llamaserver?

There's got to be someone out there that might be able to dedicate more time to keeping a server up, or someone willing to spend the time migrating the entire thing to a more robust solution.

More robust solution seems like the best option. Given the heavy use of the Llama server, doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility for the entire Dom3 community could come up with the couple hundred bucks to get a dedicated amazon web services server instance.

Not sure what sort of computing power the Llamaserver currently has, but I'm guessing it's just an old CPU in Llamas basement. We could easily get the same performance in something that wouldn't shut off every other week for about $350.

I'm definitely do not have either the savy to pull this off or the time to teach myself how, but I'd certainly be willing to contribute some money towards the cause.

[Groundworm]

Agreed with everyone who has previously thanked Llama. Voluntarily hosting the server that has allowed us all to play Dominions together for years is an effort that goes beyond mere thanks, and I can't express enough gratitude for his efforts.

I'm with Torgon in that I don't have any technical savvy that would be required to host a more robust Dominions infrastructure, but I would be willing to contribute financially to such an effort.

[Bwaha]

There's a pay-pal option on Llama Server...

;)

[llamabeast]

Sorry about the downtime guys.

The problem this time was that the fuse flipped when my housemate turned the toaster on, so it turned the server off, and I didn't notice that it had gone off for more than 24 hours till Bullock PMed me. You see it emails me when it has problems, but it can't email me when it's off. So it's always appreciated when people let me know if there are problems.

I will think about how I can improve robustness. I really appreciate the offers of financial help, however that's not really the problem. Every time it goes down it is for some random reason (like this one). I guess maybe a hosted solution would be good, so that it wouldn't suffer from internet/power outages. But I think perhaps it might be quite expensive? I don't really know how such things work - anyone have any experience? All I'd really need is ssh access to a linux box.

[Torgon]

Sorry about the downtime guys.

The problem this time was that the fuse flipped when my housemate turned the toaster on, so it turned the server off, and I didn't notice that it had gone off for more than 24 hours till Bullock PMed me. You see it emails me when it has problems, but it can't email me when it's off. So it's always appreciated when people let me know if there are problems.

I will think about how I can improve robustness. I really appreciate the offers of financial help, however that's not really the problem. Every time it goes down it is for some random reason (like this one). I guess maybe a hosted solution would be good, so that it wouldn't suffer from internet/power outages. But I think perhaps it might be quite expensive? I don't really know how such things work - anyone have any experience? All I'd really need is ssh access to a linux box.

The hosted solution actually isn't that expensive. The $350 I was quoting was the actual rate for a small (default size) medium utilization instance from AWS for three years, so around $115 a year. Like I said, I'm not sure what kind of hardware the Llamaserver's currently running on, but here are the specs for the virtual machine on Amazon's servers:

Small Instance (Default) 1.7 GB of memory, 1 EC2 Compute Unit (1 virtual core with 1 EC2 Compute Unit), 160 GB of local instance storage, 32-bit platform

Works out to about $115 a year. + Run time fees of $.03 per hour. Set it up to run a few hours a day (3) to process turns for an even $150 a year. Obviously, it would be a lot for one person to pony up. But given the number of people who use it, I'm sure we could drum up some interest. Heck, I'd throw in $50 right now if we got enough to set it up from other people.

[revenant2]

I'd be willing to contribute $50 as well.

I also have quite a bit of experience managing barely supportable applications in an IT environment, so if you need help setting any of this stuff up or managing it, I'd be willing to help.

[parone]

i can scrape up a $20 spot. llama, i don't know you, but thanks for all of your efforts. i think it's funny that when the server goes down everyone(including me) frets, but it was because of a TOASTER!! i mean, my efforts and struggles to bring Ulm to supremecy thwarted by...Toast!!

well, i thought it was funny

[Mightypeon]

Greetings,

I am unable to access Lllamaserver at all, does anyone know whats going on?

[llamabeast]

Hello all,

Thanks for the heads up. I can't get to the website either! The server itself is fine, but the website/email provider (hostgator.com) seems to have stopped working just now. I'm currently in a queue for IM chat with their technical support.

[Sajuuk]

Seems there's something wrong with server domain?

[Sajuuk]

seem server has return to normal~

[llamabeast]

The DNS service had expired, and since it's five years(!) since I set it up they had the wrong email address for me. Took me a while to remember anything about it in fact. Anyway, it's working again now. Apparently it can take 24-48 hours for the restored DNS to "propagate" but it's already working for me - let me know if it's not for you.

[Il Palazzo]

Greetings good people, and you, oh charitable Llamabeast.

A visitor from Bay12 I am, where a tradition of dominions 3 games continues to prosper nurtured by yours truly, among others.
Some three years and seven games it has been, all this time our small community enjoyed the welcoming embrace of llamaserver, whose readiness to host our games and reliability allowed us to enjoy the game to the fullest. It is only fair to heap praise at the feet of Llama for providing such service.

Today, however, I have to ask for a more direct intervention from the gracious woolly camelid, for our latest game Bay12Round7andaHalf (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Bay12Round7andaHalf) encountered the same kind of problem as the one described in the first post of this thread.

That is, after an ill-advised rollback(after all this time I should've learned not to do them anymore, alas) the server expects turn 47 files, while sending out turn 46s.
We are wary of allowing the game to stall in the hope of it fixing itself, as it seems probable that the problem will carry over to the next turn.

Llamabeast, I hate to bother you with this, the more so being a stranger to these forums, but if you could sacrifice a bit of your precious time to have a look at that, we'd all be (even more) grateful.

Humbly, Il Palazzo.

[llamabeast]

Hi Il Palazzo,

Glad to hear about your Bay12 community and that you've been making use of the llamaserver! You are extremely welcome. :)

I've just fixed the turn number error. It was a bit lucky I saw this post - if you ever need help again just email me on llamabeast@... (where ... is llamaserver.net).

Cheers,

llama

[Il Palazzo]

Llama, you're a star. Such a quick response!

I'll be sure to contact you directly next time something pops up, not that I believe it'll happen any time soon.

Once again, ta and have a good one.

[KeithZ]

I tried to submit my turn of a game to the server through "turns@llamaserver.net", but it seemed my mails were always sent to the "pretenders@llamaserver.net" instead.
Is there something wrong with the server now?

[KeithZ]

Oh, sorry, the server is fine, I submited the wrong file.

[Peter Ebbesen]

Dear Llamabeast,

The server appears to be stuck at 9:04 GMT Saturday, both for our current Wetfoot13 game and for all others, no longer accepting savegame uploads. My Aboleths are sad and (silently) screaming in frustration (Aboleths are such crybabies). Please, of the goodness of your heart, save the Mind Lords before it makes them sick. :sick:

...hmm, I need a sick or alternatively sad Aboleth smily. Any graphically adept reader capable of providing one? :D

[Peter Ebbesen]

The server is up and running again.

Thanks. :)