Weapon Targets

[Val]

Does anyone know if there is a way to make a weapon able to target everything *except* planets?

I see : Ships, Planets, Ships\Planets, Ships\Planets\Ftr\Sat, Seekers, Ftr\Sat\Seekers.

But I don't see anyway to have a weapon able to target Ships\Ftr\Sat\Seekers.

I am also guessing that Sats includes Mines?

Anybody have any ideas?

The only thing I came up with is to add plan shield to all planets and make the value so high that normal weapons can't get through (unless a MASSIVE amount is used) and then increasing all planetary assault weapons by that shield value, but I'm not even sure that would do it.

[Suicide Junkie]

Unfortunately, your planets would still have to worry about phased weapons & null-space.

As an alternative, try increasing the hitpoints of raw population by 50x.
Add a platform mount to increase their hitpoints by 50x as well.

Then, increase the damage from planetary weapons (or shrink them, allowing more on a ship)
Remember that SE4 will get an RCE if the damage (after adding mounts) exceeds 64K!

[Fyron]

You can make planetary shield generators have phased shields.

[Q]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You can make planetary shield generators have phased shields.<hr></blockquote>

How??

[Suicide Junkie]

by using "phased shield generation" rather than "planet - shield generation"

[Andrés]

You can't have a weapon that can shoot at anything including seekers making the user not need PDC.

[Q]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by suicide_junkie:
by using "phased shield generation" rather than "planet - shield generation"<hr></blockquote>

Did you test if this is working?
The phased shield ability is a component ability and as you know abilities of components and facilities frequently do not function if you assign it to the other group.

[Fyron]

Yeah, phased shield generation works for facilities. I've tested it before.

[Q]

Thank you very much for this information. I will then modify the planetary shield facility to phased shields. Otherwise it is just too easy to bypass by phased polaron beams.

[Fyron]

Make sure to change this in the AI files too, otherwise they won't be able to use it.

[Suicide Junkie]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Did you test if this is working?
The phased shield ability is a component ability and as you know abilities of components and facilities frequently do not function if you assign it to the other group. <hr></blockquote>Pirates & Nomads has had this since forever.

I made the first levels of planetary shield tech give normal shields (20K/5K, 50K/20K) and the top end phased shields (75K/50K). Tech=&gt;(ruins/normal)
At the very least, the AI should build one of the normal generators through its build orders, and then upgrade it to phased as soon as it finishes...

[Cheeze]

I'm a little confused here, with all the talk of planetary shielding.

If you don't wish ships/fighters/etc, to target planets, then simply modify the strategy that the ship (or ships) uses. In the strategies there is a "Do Not Fire On" option, and one of those listed is planets.

I use that frequently.

[Suicide Junkie]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>If you don't wish ships/fighters/etc, to target planets, then simply modify the strategy that the ship (or ships) uses. <hr></blockquote>That's up to the player whether they want to shoot at planets.

Val wanted to make the weapon ineffective against planets. So you can't kill a planet with the weapon, even if you want to.

If the planet has huge phased shields, then you need to use a planetary weapon (with huge damage) to punch through, or null space.

[Val]

Thanks for all the input, looks like a toss up between using phased shielding or increasing the pop damage ratio.

I think I'm leaning more towards the later as it won't require the AI to do anything new http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Suicide Junkie]

You will probably want to add platform mounts for heavier armor, too.

[Val]

Ellaborate a little more, please http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif