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Atrocities
April 6th, 2002, 11:07 AM
I am curious on this matter. Understandably so since most of the Star Trek sets have been out for a while now. Has any one used them exlusively in a game yet?

If yes, how did they do (GOLD) or pre-gold? I have never finished a game where I used them exclusively. Come to think of it, I have never finished a game of SEIV ever. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Every time I try, a new patch comes out, I loose interest, or I have the run of the galaxy by turn 400. Why go on?

If you use the Star Trek races, which is your favorite? Which one do you dislike the most and why?

As I said, I am just curious. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Mudshark
April 6th, 2002, 01:10 PM
"I am curious on this matter. Understandably so since most of the Star Trek sets have been out for a while now. Has any one used them exlusively in a game yet?"
I did try a game under Version 1.49. Used for Geo's voyager scenario
"If yes, how did they do (GOLD) or pre-gold?"
Version 1.49. They are very easy to role-play, never went for all out rule th galaxy
"I have never finished a game where I used them exclusively. Come to think of it, I have never finished a game of SEIV ever. Every time I try, a new patch comes out, I loose interest, or I have the run of the galaxy by turn 400. Why go on?" Glad I am not the only one!!

"If you use the Star Trek races, which is your favorite? Which one do you dislike the most and why?"
My favorite race is the Borg, don't care for the Dreadnought pic. The speech files are great.
My least favorite are the Romulans, great looking shipset. but in one game under the TDM modpack they attacked me with a fleet of wave-motion armed Frigates. Not much of a challenge to say the least!
I have yet to play against a trek race under Gold, have added the races but never started a game since I have.
They do add much flavor to the game, and I can't see having a sci-Fi game without the star Trek theme

As I said, I am just curious.
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MHSJROTCCADET
April 6th, 2002, 05:00 PM
I have, and it's quite fun. My favorite race is the Federation, just because they seem to be better balanced IMHO. Least favorite is probably the ferengi, they are pushovers!

oh, btw It was in Gold

[ 06 April 2002: Message edited by: MHSJROTCCADET ]</p>

pathfinder
April 6th, 2002, 05:04 PM
Been a while since i did. Gederation, Ferengi, Klingons and Cardassians. It was fun, while not a Trekkie, I am a sci-fi fan, so nice to play them. I too liked the Federation, simply a nice shipset.

Master Belisarius
April 7th, 2002, 02:24 AM
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Atrocities:
Come to think of it, I have never finished a game of SEIV ever. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif
<hr></blockquote>

Seems to be that you're the kind of player that like to play games with 255 systems and only against the AI! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Try some multiplayer games, and you will be forced to play until the end or lose! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I have played several Trek games against the AI and always was funny. I felt myself very well, glassing the AI planets, playing as the good guys of the Federation! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Why you don't organize a multiplayer game in PBW with Trek Races? I would glad to play!

Atrocities
April 7th, 2002, 02:39 AM
Thanks MB, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I am playing one now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

ts22
April 7th, 2002, 05:09 AM
Although upcoming exams have prevented me from playing Gold, I'll tell you what I think of the non-Gold Versions...
First of all, I love the work done on this stuff. I would like to see alternate pics too but I'm sure I'll manage without them.
As for the races, the Klingons are the top race hands down. They ALWAYS are in the lead when I meet up with them. I have played scores of "Trek" games and constantly see them dominating the galaxy. Second to them is usually the Federation, although in games with "other" mod races the Feds normally get stomped. Anyway, keep the Trek stuff coming, it is great!!! I'll let you know what I think of the Gold Versions in a month or so...

Fyron
April 7th, 2002, 05:43 AM
MB, that is a great idea! I think I will organize one myself. As to who gets to be what race, that will be first-come, first-serve.

Here are the races that will be involved (not necessarily in this order):

Species 8472
The Borg
The Breen
Cardassian Union
Dominion Empire
Federation STNG
Ferengi Alliance
Klingon Empire
Romulan Star Empire
Son'a Command

So, we will need 10 players. I would prefer to play as the Klingons, Cardassians or Romulans, but it doesn't really matter to me. So, who is interested in playing, and which race would you want to be? Also, this will be a Gold game.

Instar
April 7th, 2002, 07:08 AM
this is OT but I tried to program a star trek game for the Apple ][e once
it didnt get far

Atrocities
April 7th, 2002, 07:59 AM
Imperator Fyron, you set it up, I'd love to play. I would want the Dominion though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron
April 7th, 2002, 08:23 AM
Ok, thats 2 people!

So far, the set up is thus:

Species 8472
The Borg
The Breen
Cardassian Union
Dominion Empire (Atrocities)
Federation STNG
Ferengi Alliance
Klingon Empire (Fyron*)
Romulan Star Empire
Son'a Command

*Unless someone else really wants to play them

TheGunslinger
April 7th, 2002, 10:24 AM
i would like to join, but i can only play from friday - sunday :[
too bad...next time ill be with you

Master Belisarius
April 7th, 2002, 03:19 PM
I want to be inside!
Any race will be fine to me.

Fyron
April 7th, 2002, 08:43 PM
MB:
Well, you need to pick one. You could try putting the names in a hat and drawing one at random. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Master Belisarius
April 8th, 2002, 12:52 AM
The Ferengi then.
But I have not problems to pick other, if somebody want them.

TerranC
April 8th, 2002, 01:02 AM
Hmm... This sounds very fun.

If I could, can I try the Cardassians?

*Evil Laugh runs throughout the hollow halls*

Fyron
April 8th, 2002, 01:29 AM
MB:
Ferengi, eh? Might I ask why? Is it just because you think that they will likely not be requested by anybody?

Here is the current list then:

Species 8472 (Mudshark)
The Borg
The Breen
Cardassian Union (TerranC)
Dominion Empire (Atrocities)
Federation STNG
Ferengi Alliance (Master Belisarius)
Klingon Empire (Fyron)
Romulan Star Empire
Son'a Command

[ 08 April 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p>

Mudshark
April 8th, 2002, 02:04 AM
I wqas thinking about claiming the Borg, but considering that the whole galaxy would be fools to enter in any kind of treaty with them, I think I will pick Species 8472. This species seems to be a wild card.

Master Belisarius
April 8th, 2002, 03:18 AM
<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
MB:
Ferengi, eh? Might I ask why? Is it just because you think that they will likely not be requested by anybody?
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hehehehehe
Maybe because I consider myself as a little bastard! Or maybe because always liked their profit hungry policies! Or maybe because their total lack of scruples. Or maybe because I like the role of the Ferengi women in their society! Or maybe for all these reasons at the same time! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I have a question: we will need to play tying to act like the race that we're using? Or simply play like other SE4 game?

Fyron
April 8th, 2002, 03:28 AM
I never knew that anyone actually liked the Ferengi. Guess you proved me wrong there! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I would prefer that everyone tries to design and play their race faithfully to Star Trek. Otherwise, this just becomes yet another PBW game. I mean, there are plenty of games that you could choose from, so why not make this one more unique?

[ 08 April 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p>

Atrocities
April 8th, 2002, 05:35 AM
Actually, I love the Ferengi set, its my second favorite of the Trek sets. I put a lot of work into making them look good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron
April 8th, 2002, 05:36 AM
I didn't mean the Ferengi ship set, I meant the Ferengi themselves. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities
April 8th, 2002, 05:51 AM
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif oops. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Cool.

wr8th
April 8th, 2002, 04:37 PM
Hmmmm. I liked the shipsets so much that I ported them over to the Proportions 2.0 mod. Granted, Proportions wouldn't accept the AI as it was so I matched each up with an existing race and changed the names on the file as well as making changes to the Empire settings.

So far, no error Messages and between the shipsets and a ST Systemnames.txt file, the flavor of gaqh is strong!

[ 08 April 2002: Message edited by: wr8th ]</p>

ButSam
April 8th, 2002, 07:26 PM
Please excuse my naivete, but where do you copy all these files for the races (Borg, Federation races, etc) to?

Thanks a ton!

Sam

Urendi Maleldil
April 8th, 2002, 09:24 PM
Space Empires IV/Pictures/Races/*.*

capnq
April 9th, 2002, 12:06 AM
More precisely, Space Empires IV\Pictures\Races\&lt;name&gt;\&lt;name&gt;.*

ButSam
April 9th, 2002, 07:49 AM
OK I copied the Borg there, but they don't work--do any of the files go anywhere else?

Thanks!

Sam

wr8th
April 9th, 2002, 04:26 PM
The .emp file(s) goes in the empires folder... for one. That will allow the Borg to come up when accessing "add existing".

Fyron
April 10th, 2002, 01:48 AM
Ok, we only have 5 players. We need more!

The list:

Species 8472 (Mudshark)
The Borg
The Breen
Cardassian Union (TerranC)
Dominion Empire (Atrocities)
Federation STNG
Ferengi Alliance (Master Belisarius)
Klingon Empire (Fyron)
Romulan Star Empire
Son'a Command