SEIV Modding 101: A Tutorial [Archive]

Fyron

July 10th, 2002, 03:39 AM

I have begun work on a Modding Tutorial for SEIV. It is not completed. However, I am releasing the first 4 chapters as a preview of what is to come. It can be viewed here:

http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazharii/ModdingTutorial.html

If you have any comments, questions, suggestions, etc., feel free to post them here!

TerranC

July 10th, 2002, 03:54 AM

Suggestion...

post some screenshots http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron

July 10th, 2002, 04:56 AM

Of what?

Deathstalker

July 10th, 2002, 04:59 AM

Nice, very nice! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Gonna use this myself.

Suicide Junkie

July 10th, 2002, 05:47 AM

Screenshots of text files are pretty boring http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Perhaps a modded component of some sort, with unique values for each entry, or little labels stating which line to change to affect each part shown in the image?

pathfinder

July 10th, 2002, 05:48 AM

Very nice indeed!

Atrocities

July 10th, 2002, 05:50 AM

You never fail to amaze me man. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Pax

July 10th, 2002, 07:54 AM

Dude, the linked site is SO going in my Favorites folder ... JUST what the doctor ordered! And I think a link to teh finished product should definitely go into the must-visit SEIV sites folder. Permanently!

Many many thanks!

Fyron

July 10th, 2002, 08:11 AM

I'm glad everyone likes this. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Gil Hamilton

July 10th, 2002, 08:20 AM

Great work IF! Makes me take a step back to look at my attempts to snipe back at particular Anti-American UK turd and remember what this forum is supposed to be for. Good job!

Fyron

July 10th, 2002, 08:25 AM

Anything I can do to get this place out of the control of kats, is fine by me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Suicide Junkie

July 10th, 2002, 03:13 PM

Might I suggest that you link some bits around in your tutorial?

eg: The "Vehicle Type :=" bit in the Components chapter, could refer to the Vehicle type in the Vehicles chapter.

This determines what a weapon can target. This is what makes a Point Defense Cannon a Point Defense Cannon, because of it's targets. You could design a weapon with the "Point-Defense" Weapon Type, but give it Ships for targeting, and it will act like the normal Point Defense Cannon, except that it will automatically fire at ships.Has that been changed? IIRC, ships were not triggering the point defense code, only units...

[ July 10, 2002, 14:16: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

Fyron

July 10th, 2002, 09:11 PM

Has that been changed? IIRC, ships were not triggering the point defense code, only units...

Really? I assumed that that's how the DUC Auto Cannons that I saw in P&N or Proportions (can't remember which atm) worked. Maybe I should look more closely...

I seem to recall a conversation on IRC trying to steer you towards a certain educational pursuit. Dude, from what I have seen, do whatever the hell you want. You will be successful! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

See people? This is what comes from being in the #se4 channel on the gamesnet.net IRC server. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif It's a good idea to go there once in a while. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ July 10, 2002, 20:13: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Captain Kwok

July 10th, 2002, 10:51 PM

See people? This is what comes from being in the #se4 channel on the gamesnet.net IRC server. It's a good idea to go there once in a while. 

Yep. See, people were complaiming that there was no complete tutorial or guide for modding. So I said "Hey Nodachi, why don't you make one yourself...?" - he got talking to Fyron and the Imperator took it upon himself to create this excellent document.

Fyron

July 11th, 2002, 12:13 AM

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Nodachi

July 11th, 2002, 01:22 AM

This is outstanding! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I seem to recall a conversation on IRC trying to steer you towards a certain educational pursuit. Dude, from what I have seen, do whatever the hell you want. You will be successful! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Captain Kwok

July 11th, 2002, 01:30 AM

Good job.

I'm glad I thought of it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron

July 11th, 2002, 05:13 AM

I wrote chapters 5-8 today, and uploaded them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Enjoy!

Now, most of the basic files are covered. Except the specifics on the Abilities.txt. That's gonna take a while. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

sparhawk

July 11th, 2002, 03:40 PM

Nice work!!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Can't wait for the other chapters.

Sparhawk

Skulky

July 12th, 2002, 06:12 AM

And if i may be so bold... When you finish this mamoth project how about a scenario tutorial possibly, from SJ instead?

capnq

July 13th, 2002, 05:54 AM

IIRC, ships were not triggering the point defense code, only units...

Really? I assumed that that's how the DUC Auto Cannons that I saw in P&N or Proportions (can't remember which atm) worked. P&N's DU Autocannons aren't point-defense; they're just smaller Versions of DUCs.

DavidG

July 20th, 2002, 04:35 PM

Excellent Page! I notice you have a future chapter planed for abilities. One thing I would really like to know is what abilites work or don't work with the various components/facilities etc. I gather some abilites such as research generation will not do anything on a component. Also some abilities are obviously designed for stars or planets. I wonder if anyone has ever compiled a list of the abilites that work on components, and one for facilites etc. etc. I like to be able to filter the abilities in my moding tool but don't having enough modding experience to do this.

Captain Kwok

July 20th, 2002, 04:38 PM

And if i may be so bold... When you finish this mamoth project how about a scenario tutorial possibly, from SJ instead? Do I sense a lack of respect for Mr.Fyron's fine work?

Fyron

July 21st, 2002, 01:17 AM

There wouldn't be much to write for a scenario tutorial. Create a game where you control all the empires. Have each of them build, colonize, research, etc. whatever you want them to. Then, set all the AI empires back to AI control, and save it as a scenario.

In fact, you can speed the process up by cheating. Make the resource and research facilities make 500k instead of 500, and make SYs produce at 20K instead of 2K, and you can set it up much quicker. Make engines have +40 bonus MPs so you can move them to where you want them to be quicker. Since you are controlling every empire, you don't have to worry about extra stuff being done by the AI. Remove these changes after you are done, and you're good to go.

[ July 21, 2002, 00:21: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Elowan

August 7th, 2002, 11:24 PM

How is this project coming along?

Fyron

August 8th, 2002, 08:11 AM

It is coming. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Actually... I have been distracted and haven't worked on it recently. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Elowan

August 8th, 2002, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
It is coming. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Actually... I have been distracted and haven't worked on it recently. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Don't I know about distraction! I'm supposed to be retired but I signed on as a consultant for a medical device firm. I've found that the FDA has a very stupid and quarrelsome AI! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Taz-in-Space

August 9th, 2002, 08:14 AM

Elowan, Watch out. I think that AI is set to Bloodthirsty/xenophobe ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Elowan

August 9th, 2002, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by Taz-in-Space:
Elowan, Watch out. I think that AI is set to Bloodthirsty/xenophobe ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Ya! Ya! Ya! But I will sic Taz on them!

Fyron

August 13th, 2002, 08:35 AM

Chapter 9 has been written.

Fyron

August 13th, 2002, 08:59 AM

Chapter 10 has been written.

Fyron

August 13th, 2002, 09:19 AM

Chapter 11 has been written.

Fyron

August 13th, 2002, 09:31 AM

Reorganized chapters. Formations moved to chapter 12. Chapter 11 is now Intel Projects, and not yet written.

Elowan

August 13th, 2002, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Reorganized chapters. Formations moved to chapter 12. Chapter 11 is now Intel Projects, and not yet written.Well done lad! Well done! Three cheers and a tiger! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ August 13, 2002, 20:20: Message edited by: Elowan ]

tesco samoa

August 14th, 2002, 01:12 AM

Fryon.... This is great work.. Keep it up.

Atrocities

August 14th, 2002, 01:15 AM

Fyron, what you have done is unquestionably one of the most important things since the invention of peanut butter. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Seriously, your modding site is a MUST VISIT site. Very informative, and a true treasure of SEIV gaming.

Fyron

August 14th, 2002, 05:36 AM

New Chapter 11: Intel Projects has been written.

Captain Kwok

August 14th, 2002, 06:08 AM

It's about time...how long have I've been bugging you about this?

Captain Kwok

August 14th, 2002, 06:17 AM

But only because I think it's a fine guide worthy of much praise and accolades.

Fyron

August 14th, 2002, 07:49 AM

No worries. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Chapter 13: Happiness has been written. Slight alterations on chapters not yet written have been made.

Elowan

August 14th, 2002, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

... Slight alterations on chapters not yet written have been made.Hmmm. How did you manage that? That would help me with some of my re-writes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Fyron

August 14th, 2002, 09:33 PM

That is a classified secret. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Glider

August 15th, 2002, 03:37 PM

IF,

Hey your tutorial is good. Will you be doing any AI moding instructions?

Glider

Fyron

August 18th, 2002, 11:40 PM

AI modding... I don't really know anything about AI modding. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif So... maybe.

New chapter added, Chapter 17: Quasi-Newtonian Propulsion. Written by Suicide Junkie.

Fyron

August 25th, 2002, 02:17 AM

Chapter 14: Racial Traits has been written.

Fyron

August 25th, 2002, 03:09 AM

How much interest would there be in a PDF Version of the tutorial, and a Black and White printer-friendly Version?

pathfinder

August 25th, 2002, 03:23 AM

Imperator: me!

gregebowman

August 26th, 2002, 08:10 PM

I would. I hate having to reprint the whole document when you just need one chapter, or whatever. A .pdf Version would be great.

Fyron

August 30th, 2002, 08:34 AM

Here is a (rough) pdf Version of the tutorial:

Since spaceports doesn't like off-site linking to pdf files, you can click on this link:
http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazharii/ModdingTutorialPDF.html

The pdf file is actually located here:
http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazharii/ModdingTutorial.pdf

I do not know how to insert page breaks at this point, so it isn't really all that different from the html Version at this point.

Here is a black and white html Version of the tutorial:
http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazharii/ModdingTutorialBW.html

[ August 30, 2002, 22:52: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

pathfinder

August 30th, 2002, 11:52 AM

IF: I got an "url not found" error message for the PDF. The black and white printer Version works fine though. Thanks!

[ August 30, 2002, 10:54: Message edited by: pathfinder ]

Fyron

August 30th, 2002, 09:01 PM

The pdf loads fine for me. Hmm...

Suicide Junkie

August 30th, 2002, 09:16 PM

Spaceports probably dosen't let you do off-site linking.

Fyron

August 30th, 2002, 10:24 PM

For images, yes. But, I can link and go to the pdf file with no problem at all.

Suicide Junkie

August 30th, 2002, 10:55 PM

Well, it seems to me that the link only fails (404) if you're openeing it in a new window (as Shrapnel links do by default).

If you try to visit it by any other means, it works...

Fyron

August 30th, 2002, 11:47 PM

When I click on the link from here, it loads fine. Hmm...

Fyron

August 30th, 2002, 11:53 PM

Since spaceports doesn't like off-site linking to pdf files (for some people, anyways http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ), you can click on this link:
http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazharii/ModdingTutorialPDF.html

Hey, I'm a Colonel now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

pathfinder

August 30th, 2002, 11:59 PM

Yessir Colonel Sir!

BTW the .pdf link worked this time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Fyron

August 31st, 2002, 12:05 AM

Want a friendlier looking link? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

http://kazharii.cjb.net/ModdingTutorialPDF.html

[ August 30, 2002, 23:06: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Captain Kwok

August 31st, 2002, 02:24 AM

Fyron - You need to make a chapter list for your PDF Version. I think it would help will navigation.

Fyron

August 31st, 2002, 02:30 AM

As I said originally, I don't know how to insert page breaks. So, the chapter list was not all that useful, since it linked to the middle of pages and such.

Elowan

September 1st, 2002, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
As I said originally, I don't know how to insert page breaks. So, the chapter list was not all that useful, since it linked to the middle of pages and such.I'll give it a shot. I think that I can do that.

Fyron

September 1st, 2002, 07:50 PM

If you can, tell me how to do it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Elowan

September 2nd, 2002, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
If you can, tell me how to do it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Okay - I'll email you.

Fyron

October 30th, 2002, 11:15 AM

I should probably get those Last few chapters finished some time...

Fyron

October 30th, 2002, 08:02 PM

The link to the PDF works fine for me. Try copying the url, opening a new browser window, and then pasting the url in the address bar.

Gryphin

October 31st, 2002, 02:32 AM

Fyron,
I tryed the link to the PDF. It apears to be broken. I'd love to see the file.
Thanks in any case.

Fyron

February 9th, 2003, 01:16 AM

I have begun updating the tutorial to include new lines in the newer patches. So far, I have updated the Settings.txt section. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron

May 6th, 2003, 09:47 PM

The long-awaited Abilities chapter of the tutorial has been started. And boy, is it a monster! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

I added more info in Chapter 9 (such as the PlanetSize.txt section).

Fyron

May 7th, 2003, 01:55 AM

Another new Version, and probably the Last for a bit. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron

July 5th, 2003, 11:25 PM

SE4 Modding 101 Tutorial has been updated. It is a small update, only encompassing some changes to the Facilities chapter.

Fyron

July 20th, 2003, 01:09 AM

Finally finished Chapter 16: Abilities of SE4 Modding 101 Tutorial.

Stone Mill

July 20th, 2003, 01:22 AM

Needless to say, this is fine work. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron

October 7th, 2003, 04:29 AM

Updated chapters 10 (Events) and 11 (Intel Projects). Added some info about each of the event ability types.

[ October 07, 2003, 03:29: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

StarBaseSweeper

October 7th, 2003, 05:14 AM

This is a detail, but would it be possible to use relative link for the jump inside the document, so that it does not try to reload the whole page when clicking the menu and when saved to a file for offline browsing, the link would still be working?

Very good job.
I ead below a suggestion to do the same for AI modding http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif That would be heaven... (or hell for you...)

2 details:
+ the first line of event chapter is wrong (I think).
+ Which events can be used as intel is not described http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ October 07, 2003, 04:19: Message edited by: StarBaseSweeper ]

Fyron

October 7th, 2003, 05:21 AM

They are relative links. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif I will look into it. I need to update the PDF Version at some point, but I need to figure out a better way to do it...

I could provide a zipped copy of the tutorial so that the internet will not mess with the event lines. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif It does not load a new page for me when I click on the menu links...

Very good job.Thanks.

+ the first line of event chapter is wrong (I think).What other types of events are there?

+ Which event can be used as intel is not described Well I do not know everything... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif I think they can all be used as intel projects, but I am not certain. Keep in mind that half of the info is based off of logical assumptions and memory, not meticulous testing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

EDIT:
I ead below a suggestion to do the same for AI modding That would be heaven... (or hell for you...) Hell, especially as I have never done any AI modding before. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ October 07, 2003, 04:25: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Fyron

October 7th, 2003, 05:31 AM

Wow... Internet Explorer "Save Page As" is evil... if you right click on the tutorial and select View Source, you can then save the file from there and it will maintain all of the original link formatting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron

October 7th, 2003, 05:51 AM

In routine server maintenance, I have moved the location of the SE4 Modding 101 Tutorial files. You can now access them at http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazharii/modding101/.

StarBaseSweeper

October 7th, 2003, 08:16 AM

What I meant was that the sentence:
"Events are defined in Events.txt. There isn't much to them. All the possible types of events are:" is following by message format. Maybe moving it below, just before you actually give the list of event would be clearer. This is cosmetic though.

Ran-Taro

October 7th, 2003, 11:42 AM

Would it be possible to add a chapter about making .emp files? Or is that beyond the scope of the document?

Lighthorse

October 11th, 2003, 01:51 AM

My thanks to you, Imperator Fyron for writting this modding 101 instructions. Kuto, to you and other who help in this worthly project.
Next step, I for me, after reading your modding, is trying to design a mod.

Best Regards
Lighthorse
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Suicide Junkie

October 11th, 2003, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Ran-Taro:
Would it be possible to add a chapter about making .emp files? Or is that beyond the scope of the document?To make an EMP file, start a game and then "Save Empire"

That's it.

Ran-Taro

October 13th, 2003, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Ran-Taro:
Would it be possible to add a chapter about making .emp files? Or is that beyond the scope of the document?To make an EMP file, start a game and then "Save Empire"

That's it.<hr /></blockquote>ohhhhhhh.... it seems so obvious now! *thwacks own forehead*

Thank you!

Fyron

October 13th, 2003, 09:42 PM

You can save the empire both in the players screen before starting the game, and in the options menu after the game has started.

Fyron

October 28th, 2003, 12:56 AM

Minor update on the Supply Amount Used tag.

Additionally, I have updated the PDF Versions. But, they do not really have page breaks in the proper places, as I have no idea how to edit the PDF files, just generate them from the HTML... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ October 27, 2003, 23:19: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

SpaceBadger

November 12th, 2003, 04:13 AM

Shouldn't this be a "sticky" topic?

I think it should - BUMP!

SpaceBadger

Fyron

December 15th, 2003, 03:55 AM

The Tutorial has a new home at http://se4modding.spaceempires.net/ . This link might not yet work properly, but it should be in operation soon. The files are on the server.

Fyron

February 24th, 2004, 01:45 AM

I have updated the tutorial. There is now a table in the first chapter that lists the files and states which will cause incompatibility issues with savegames and which will not. You probably need to visit it with this link: http://www.spaceempires.net/se4modding/

Fyron

February 24th, 2004, 02:50 AM

Ok I updated it again. Chapter 17 is now entitled Advanced Tips and Tricks rather than Quasi-Newtonian Propulsion. So far, it has sections on QNP and Leaky Armor.

Fyron

August 4th, 2004, 02:17 AM

Added updated info on the Happiness abilities in the Abilities chapter.

Captain Kwok

August 4th, 2004, 06:28 PM

Did you make the other corrections that I mentioned in the thread at se.net?

spoon

August 4th, 2004, 07:51 PM

Is this really true (in Leaky Armor):
Let's take a system with two types of leaky armor as an example. Light Armor is 1 kiloton in size and has, say, 20 structure (hit points). Heavy Armor is 10 kilotons in size and has 100 structure.

In this system, the Light Armor has twice as many hit points per kiloton of space taken as the Heavy Armor. This means that it should create ships much stronger than Heavy Armor can, right? Well, not quite. Even though the Light Armored ships can take a lot more damage, you will find that the heavy armored ships tend to win more often. This is because weapon hits are more likely to strike a component of Heavy Armor than other internal components with the HA ship than they are to strike a component of Light Armor than an internal on a LA ship. The large amount of hit points that the Heavy Armor has individually gives it a greater chance to be struck. So while the LA ships can take more damage overall, they tend to be more leaky, so vital internals (engines, weapons) tend to be struck more quickly than they do on the HA ships. The Heavy Armor has more hit points than any (unmounted) weapon, after all. Of course, it turns out that the best design is a combination of LA and HA.
Say you had two 200kt ships. One had 100kt of LA, the other had 100kt of HA. Wouldn't the leaky armor on the LA ship be twice as likely to be hit than the armor on the HA ship, since the LA ship has twice the amount of Structure?

[ August 04, 2004, 18:52: Message edited by: spoon ]

Atrocities

August 4th, 2004, 10:37 PM

I am not sure, but have you added a section, or just a note, about how the AI uses the racial points in the General file. When it runs out as it goes down the list (Characteristics / Advanced Characteristics, it will stop when it reaches 0 points even if the Last item is free?

Fyron

August 4th, 2004, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by spoon:
Is this really true (in Leaky Armor):

Say you had two 200kt ships. One had 100kt of LA, the other had 100kt of HA. Wouldn't the leaky armor on the LA ship be twice as likely to be hit than the armor on the HA ship, since the LA ship has twice the amount of Structure? The formula that determines which component is hit from a particular shot is biased towards higher hit point components. The more hit points a specific component has compared to other components on the ship, the greater the bias becomes. This is based upon empirical evidence, mostly from testing by Suicide Junkie. Make some sample components and test them out in the simulator. The ship with heavy armor tends to win much more often than the ship with light armor.

Raging Deadstar

August 4th, 2004, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by spoon:
Is this really true (in Leaky Armor):

Say you had two 200kt ships. One had 100kt of LA, the other had 100kt of HA. Wouldn't the leaky armor on the LA ship be twice as likely to be hit than the armor on the HA ship, since the LA ship has twice the amount of Structure? The formula that determines which component is hit from a particular shot is biased towards higher hit point components. The more hit points a specific component has compared to other components on the ship, the greater the bias becomes. This is based upon empirical evidence, mostly from testing by Suicide Junkie. Make some sample components and test them out in the simulator. The ship with heavy armor tends to win much more often than the ship with light armor. <hr /></blockquote>So would i be right in assuming that the ship with Light Armour would although have more hitpoints in general would be more prone to components inside being destroyed while Heavy Armour while not affording as much protection hit point wise would stop internals being destroyed as much...all in theory of course http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Just curious as i never understood the leaky armour thing http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ August 04, 2004, 22:18: Message edited by: Raging Deadstar ]

Fyron

August 4th, 2004, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by Raging Deadstar:
So would i be right in assuming that the ship with Light Armour would although have more hitpoints in general would be more prone to components inside being destroyed while Heavy Armour while not affording as much protection hit point wise would stop internals being destroyed as much...all in theory of course http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Correct.

Fyron

August 14th, 2004, 07:35 PM

Tutorial is finally up to date. A few errors corrected here and there, new abilities and such from 1.91 added, etc.

Captain Kwok

August 14th, 2004, 07:58 PM

Tutorial is finally up to date. A few errors corrected here and there, new abilities and such from 1.91 added, etc.

It's about time. :P

I have a copy of it at work that I use during work on my SFEmod and I kept noticing little things that I'd post in your SE.net forums. I find the abilities chapter most useful.