A thought - probably expressed before, but ...

[Elowan]

... how about a tech that allows miniaturization of certain components? Advances in technology might help to reduce the size of some components allowing more to be added to a ship/base/wp/sat/planet.

Am I talking through my newbie hat here?
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[Spoo]

Once the patch comes out mod a researchable mount that shrinks components.

[oleg]

Nay, just make for example APB II to do the same damage as APB I but shrink by say, 5kt. Miniaturization has been discussed before, but in the sense it is exactly what you get for researching next level in weapons. It is just expressed a little bit different.

[Phoenix-D]

'Nay, just make for example APB II to do the same damage as APB I but shrink by say, 5kt."

This is a pain. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Why? When retrofitting ships, they must be the *exact same tonnage*. So if you just press the upgrade button and leave it at that- or end up with space left over you can't use because of the shrinkage- you won't be able to retrofit to the new design.

Phoenix-D

[Elowan]

Originally posted by oleg:
Nay, just make for example APB II to do the same damage as APB I but shrink by say, 5kt. Miniaturization has been discussed before, but in the sense it is exactly what you get for researching next level in weapons. It is just expressed a little bit different.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spasibo.

[Fyron]

Phoenix-D, that is regarding the hull size, not the space used on the ship. You can retrofit to designs with more or less of the hull filled with components.

[Phoenix-D]

Interesting. I just tested it and it worked.. despite the fact that I KNOW I've played games where it hasn't worked.

Phoenix-D

[Fyron]

There is/was a PBW bug where that happens sometimes with new ship designs that are still prototypes.

[Wardad]

The work around is to put the new design in a shipyards build que. You do not have to build it, and it can be placed at the end of a long build que.
This work around guarentees that design will be avialable for retrofit that turn and other turns.

[oleg]

Originally posted by Elowan:
Spasibo.[/QB]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pozhalusta. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Pax]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Phoenix-D, that is regarding the hull size, not the space used on the ship. You can retrofit to designs with more or less of the hull filled with components.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not to mention, if the refit shrunk the weapons by, oh, 1/6 ... you CAN add 1/6 more weapons, so long as everything still fits into the hull. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Taz-in-Space]

Spasibo? Pozhalusta? Taz not understand. Need a universal translator! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[dogscoff]

Taz: Use Google. I found this: http://www.epinions.com/content_1033937028

[Elowan]

Originally posted by Taz-in-Space:
Spasibo? Pozhalusta? Taz not understand. Need a universal translator! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spasibo -- thanks
Pahzhalsta -- (please) but in this context - 'you're welcome' Same usage as bitte shoen in German in response to danke shoen.

I figured Oleg as someone who may be a native Russian/Ukranian speaker - but I could be wrong.

Mya'shipka in that case! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Elowan]

Oops! Sorry for the double posting. server acting up.

Mya'shipka in this case for sure! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ August 09, 2002, 17:55: Message edited by: Elowan ]

[oleg]

Originally posted by Elowan:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Taz-in-Space:
Spasibo? Pozhalusta? Taz not understand. Need a universal translator! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spasibo -- thanks
Pahzhalsta -- (please) but in this context - 'you're welcome' Same usage as bitte shoen in German in response to danke shoen.

I figured Oleg as someone who may be a native Russian/Ukranian speaker - but I could be wrong.

Mya'shipka in that case! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yep, I'm russian.
Do you mean "Moya oshibka" in the Last pharse, right ?

[Elowan]

Originally posted by oleg:
[Yep, I'm russian.
Do you mean "Moya oshibka" in the Last pharse, right ?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Da! Tochna! Transliteration has no hard-and-fast rules here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif (I don't think).