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Elowan
August 9th, 2002, 07:18 PM
I recently got into a dust-up with the Amonkrie. They had light-cruisers equipped with Anti-matter Torps IV and 3 shield III's. I had cruisers with heavy mount Nulls III and armor III and Aegis Cruisers with CM III.

They kicked my bootie!

I read some bubbameitza about armor III being pretty good and Null weps ditto. Du'oh! I think I got a wrong number. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ August 09, 2002, 18:20: Message edited by: Elowan ]

Fyron
August 9th, 2002, 08:56 PM
Null-space weapons are only really useful against opponents with really heavy defenses on their ships. They do not make a very good primary weapon.

Armor is good in PBW games, because most players research PPBs fairly early. But if your enemies don't use PPBs, shields are much better.

Elowan
August 9th, 2002, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Null-space weapons are only really useful against opponents with really heavy defenses on their ships. They do not make a very good primary weapon.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What do you reccomend as a good primary weapon?

What do you think of the Anti-Proton DF wep at higher levels?

oleg
August 10th, 2002, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by Elowan:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Null-space weapons are only really useful against opponents with really heavy defenses on their ships. They do not make a very good primary weapon.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What do you reccomend as a good primary weapon?

What do you think of the Anti-Proton DF wep at higher levels?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Phased Polaron Beams of course. No need to research anything else for almost whole game !

DirectorTsaarx
August 10th, 2002, 07:54 AM
Something else to remember: Amonkrie have at least a defensive bonus (2000-point game, 10% defense; 3000 or 5000-point game, 20% defense AND 20% offense). So that would make a difference.

Fyron
August 10th, 2002, 08:04 AM
Elowan, use DUCs until you can get PPBs. Once you can safely afford to research APB XIIs, switch to them (and make sure to have Shield Depleter Vs too, and not Shield Disruptors, which have shorter range). Do not use any level lower than I think XI, which is the first to be better than the PPB V. Do not rely on racial weapons as a primary weapon. Most of them are quite useless.

Elowan
August 10th, 2002, 05:38 PM
Fyron - you must be a born teacher! Nice response.

DirectorTsaarx: I feel a little better now that I know that.

I appreciate the other answers as well - got the fog out of my brain.

I have been researching DUC -&gt; 5 and PDC as well; missiles to CM IV; ships to LC. After that I concentrated on infrastructure and then went back to weps advances.

I've tried researching Adv Res 2 at the first of the game - but frankly - that doesn't make much difference until and unless you've a large population/planet base. I can use the extra 10th years(s) to bulk up my nasties until I've spread out some.

[ August 10, 2002, 16:40: Message edited by: Elowan ]