Acronym Dictionary

[tbontob]

Just now, I must have read at least 100 Messages before I understood what SDD stood for. Only then was I really able to understand what was being discussed in a very complex discussion.

So, I propose we start a Acronym Dictionary. I have started with a few that come to mind (including SDD http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ). There must be dozens, if not hundreds more.

I think the format is pretty self-explanatory. Any improvements are welcomed.

Feel free to enter any acroyms you know of. Or if you do not know the meaning of one, post it, as I am sure someone will know what it stands for.
==============================================

AAAAAAAAAA
APB = Anti-Proton Beam, Weapon
AS = Allegiance Subverter, Weapon

BBBBBBBBBB

CCCCCCCCCC
CSM = Capital Ship Missile, Weapon
CV = Computer Virus, Weapon

DDDDDDDDDD
DUC = Depleted Uranium Cannon, Weapon

EEEEEEEEEE

FFFFFFFFFF

GGGGGGGGGG

HHHHHHHHHH

IIIIIIIIII

JJJJJJJJJJ

KKKKKKKKKK

LLLLLLLLLL

MMMMMMMMMM

NNNNNNNNNN

OOOOOOOOOO

PPPPPPPPPP
PDC = Point Defense Cannon, Weapon
PPB = Phased-Polaron Beam, Weapon

QQQQQQQQQQ

RRRRRRRRRR

SSSSSSSSSS
SDD = Self-Destruct Device, Weapon

TTTTTTTTTT

UUUUUUUUUU

VVVVVVVVVV

WWWWWWWWWW

XXXYYYZZZZ

[Andrés]

You should just add the initails of every component/facility ect; they're all likely to be used as aconyms unless there are repetitions.

[ October 24, 2002, 04:07: Message edited by: Andr&eacutes Lescano ]

[Fyron]

I usually refer to a Self Destruct Device as SSD for some reason. Maybe for "Ship Self Destruct"... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Phoenix-D]

Some weapons and such don't get refered to as acronyms; I've never seen someone say QT for a Quantum Torpedo, for example, or any abreviation for an incinerator beam. I HAVE seen the following:

WWWWWWW
WMG- Wave-Motion Gun, weapon
WP- Warp Point (also Weapon Platform, ussually obvious by context)

HHHHH
HW- Homeworld, planet type

Phoenix-D

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Some weapons and such don't get refered to as acronyms; I've never seen someone say QT for a Quantum Torpedo, for example, or any abreviation for an incinerator beam. I HAVE seen the following:

WWWWWWW
WMG- Wave-Motion Gun, weapon
WP- Warp Point (also Weapon Platform, ussually obvious by context)

HHHHH
HW- Homeworld, planet type

Phoenix-D<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Phoenix-D has brought up a very good point. There may be some disagreements on whether something is given an acronym. If the general consensus is that it doesn't, we can just remove it.

He also points out (with justification) that the same acronym can apply to two different names.

Even so, I would suggest it is still an immeasureable help to the newbie who should be able to decide to which one it applicable to (as Phoenix-D suggests from the context).

Here is the up-to date listing... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
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AAAAAAAAAA
APB = Anti-Proton Beam, Weapon
AS = Allegiance Subverter, Weapon

BBBBBBBBBB

CCCCCCCCCC
CSM = Capital Ship Missile, Weapon
CV = Computer Virus, Weapon

DDDDDDDDDD
DUC = Depleted Uranium Cannon, Weapon

EEEEEEEEEE

FFFFFFFFFF

GGGGGGGGGG

HHHHHHHHHH
HW = Homworld, Planet type

IIIIIIIIII

JJJJJJJJJJ

KKKKKKKKKK

LLLLLLLLLL

MMMMMMMMMM

NNNNNNNNNN

OOOOOOOOOO

PPPPPPPPPP
PDC = Point Defense Cannon, Weapon
PPB = Phased-Polaron Beam, Weapon

QQQQQQQQQQ

RRRRRRRRRR

SSSSSSSSSS
SDD = Self-Destruct Device, Weapon

TTTTTTTTTT

UUUUUVVVVV

WWWWWWWWWW
WMG = Wave-Motion Gun, Weapon
WP = Warp Point, Location,
WP = Weapon Platform, Vehicle Shell

XXXYYYZZZZ

[dogscoff]

And there are acronyms used on this board other than the weapons and things used in the game. For example

AI = Artificial Intelligence = Computer player.

VsAI = Game played against the computer AI (ie solo human player)

P&N = Pirates & Nomads mod

SW = Star wars

ST= Star Trek

MM= Malfador Machinations

and so on...

[Shyrka]

What about PbW = Play by Web, Game mode ?

[Fyron]

FQM = Fyron's Quadrant Mod
QNP = Quasi-Newtonian Propulsion
DNM = Devnull Mod

[oleg]

MB - meson bLaster
OA - organic armour
CA - crystalline armoor
TDB - time distortion bLast
TDM - Tamper-Daynar(?)-Mephisto mod
SY - space yard

[ October 24, 2002, 13:03: Message edited by: oleg ]

[tbontob]

Hmmm...

Some of the responses are interesting.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I started this thread with the idea of dealing with Acronyms for the standard SE4 game.

So, what do I do with BOHICA? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Also, some of the Acronyms are for the "advanced" player...such as mods.

So, for the moment, I thought I would put the "non-standard" SE4 stuff into **FUN STUFF AND NOT SO FUN STUFF** and deal with it later.

The **FUN STUFF AND NOT SO FUN STUFF** will be in alphabetical order, so it should be relatively easy for the experienced player to find what he wants. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

If someone does know of a better way of doing this, I would like to hear it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Here's the up to date listing... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
======================================

AAAAAAAAAA
AI = Artificial Intelligence, Computer Player
APB = Anti-Proton Beam, Weapon
AS = Allegiance Subverter, Weapon

BBBBBBBBBB

CCCCCCCCCC
CA = Crystalline Armor, Component
CSM = Capital Ship Missile, Weapon
CV = Computer Virus, Weapon

DDDDDDDDDD
DUC = Depleted Uranium Cannon, Weapon

EEEEEEEEEE

FFFFFFFFFF

GGGGGGGGGG

HHHHHHHHHH
HW = Homeworld, Planet type

IIIIIIIIII

JJJJJJJJJJ

KKKKKKKKKK

LLLLLLLLLL

MMMMMMMMMM
MB = Meson BLaster, Weapon
MM = Malfador Machinations, Creator of SE4

NNNNNNNNNN

OOOOOOOOOO
OA = Organic Armour, Component

PPPPPPPPPP
PBW = Play By Web, Game Mode
PDC = Point Defense Cannon, Weapon
PPB = Phased-Polaron Beam, Weapon

QQQQQQQQQQ
QR = Quantum Reactor, Component

RRRRRRRRRR

SSSSSSSSSS
SDD = Self-Destruct Device, Weapon
SY = Space Yard,

TTTTTTTTTT
TDB = Time Distortion Burst, Weapon

UUUUUUUUUU

VVVVVVVVVV
vsAI = Solo Game vs Computer, Game Mode

WWWWWWWWWW
WMG = Wave-Motion Gun, Weapon
WP = Warp Point, Location,
WP = Weapon Platform, Hull

XXXYYYZZZZ

**FUN STUFF AND NOT SO FUN STUFF**
BOHICA = Bend Over, Here It Comes Again
DNM = Devnull Mod
FQM = Fyron's Quadrant Mod
P&N = Pirates & Nomads mod
QNP = Quasi-Newtonian Propulsion
ST = Star Trek
SW = Star Wars
TDM - Tamper-Daynar-Mephisto mod

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Edited to include Space Yard which was omitted.

[ October 24, 2002, 16:07: Message edited by: tbontob ]

[dogscoff]

How could we forget FBW: Fluffy Bunny Waitress. Very important SEIV slang. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Also ppl's names... S_J = Suicide Junkie, GT= GrowlTigga, IF= Imperator Fyron... we're clearly a bunch aronymaniacs...

[tbontob]

Originally posted by dogscoff:
How could we forget FBW: Fluffy Bunny Waitress. Very important SEIV slang. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Also ppl's names... S_J = Suicide Junkie, GT= GrowlTigga, IF= Imperator Fyron... we're clearly a bunch aronymaniacs...<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dogscoff, are you trying to derail the dictionary? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

But just in case you are serious http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ...how does "Fluffy Bunny Waitress" fit in? Like, BOHICA seems to have some relevance in the sense that a player gets hit with one whammy and then... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Also, I have the highest regard for the people you mentioned. Whenever they post something, I make sure that I read it.

Yet, I am wondering if we are going off topic here. If the consensus is to include these individuals as acronyms, it can be done. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[dogscoff]

Sorry, I was being a bit facetious. you'd know all about FBWs if you ever stopped in at the cantina.

Actually, your dictionary got me thinking about an idea I had a while ago. I was considering some sort of "forum encyclopedia" in which we record all the knowledge, lore and "history" of the forum. Things we've discussed (Sweet Tea, SEIV light-speed, SEIV is like sex because...) , characters and events we've created (All the stuff that happens in the Cantina, basically), prestigious threads (ie "pirate's life" and "how old are you") and other things like that.

Not sure why anyone would do all this (other than to satisfy my own sad, obsessive vanities) but it could be a laugh.

But yeah, I'm way OT. I'll shut up now.

Heh, there's another acronym for you: OT.

OK. Shutting up...

...now...

...

[tbontob]

Oh boy... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

A forum encylopedia would be massive! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I do not even have the courage to think about it, nevermind considering doing it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Gryphin]

Ships:
ES = Escort
FF = Fast Frigate
DD = Destroyer
LC = Light Cruiser
CC = Cruiser
BC = BattleCrusier
BB = Battleship
DN = Dreadnaught
CV = Carrier, (yes it is a duplicate but should be able to pick up from context)

Those are the easy ones.
Anybody with the ones I missed?

[geoschmo]

Why stop with a Forum encyclopedia? Make it a Space Empires Encylclopedia. A complete referance with everything to newbie help and game strategy tips, to explanations of the stuff that goes on in the forum on a regular basis.

My suggestion for a name would be the Encyclopedia Malfadorica.

Ok, I gave it a name. Now who wants to do the easy part and throw the thing together. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Crimson]

Hi, How this for listings

- game objects
ship, weapon, etc
- game topic/methods
QN, Mount use, etc
- Mods/players
player and Mods[/B] http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
- Cantina http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
FBW and other thing
- Misc
Anything that doesn't fit in the above

[tbontob]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Why stop with a Forum encyclopedia? Make it a Space Empires Encylclopedia. A complete referance with everything to newbie help and game strategy tips, to explanations of the stuff that goes on in the forum on a regular basis.

My suggestion for a name would be the Encyclopedia Malfadorica.

Ok, I gave it a name. Now who wants to do the easy part and throw the thing together. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Geoschmo, my head hurts just thinking about it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Raging Deadstar]

stuff that happens on this forum...

How about A big warning that warns obviously newbies not to set foot in the cantina, that place has warped my mind already, we don't need anymore kids lives ruined http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[tbontob]

Updated List! You will notice that I deleted some of the headings. Scrolling can be a headache. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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AI = Artificial Intelligence, Computer Player
APB = Anti-Proton Beam, Weapon
AS = Allegiance Subverter, Weapon

BB = Battleship, Hull
BC = BattleCrusier, Hull

CA = Crystalline Armor, Component
CC = Cruiser, Hull
CSM = Capital Ship Missile, Weapon
CV = Carrier, Hull
CV = Computer Virus, Weapon

DD = Destroyer, Hull
DN = Dreadnaught, Hull
DUC = Depleted Uranium Cannon, Weapon

ES = Escort, Hull

FF = Fast Frigate, Hull

GGGGGGGGGG

HW = Homeworld, Planet type

IIIIIIIIII

JJJJJJJJJJ

KKKKKKKKKK

LC = Light Cruiser, Hull

MB = Meson BLaster, Weapon
MM = Malfador Machinations, Creator of SE4

NNNNNNNNNN

OA = Organic Armour, Component

PBW = Play By Web, Game Mode
PDC = Point Defense Cannon, Weapon
PPB = Phased-Polaron Beam, Weapon

QR = Quantum Reactor, Component

RRRRRRRRRR

SDD = Self-Destruct Device, Weapon
SY = Space Yard,

TDB = Time Distortion Burst, Weapon

UUUUUUUUUU

vsAI = Solo Game vs Computer, Game Mode

WMG = Wave-Motion Gun, Weapon
WP = Warp Point, Location,
WP = Weapon Platform, Hull

XXXYYYZZZZ

**FUN STUFF AND NOT SO FUN STUFF**
BOHICA = Bend Over, Here It Comes Again
DNM = Devnull Mod
FQM = Fyron's Quadrant Mod
P&N = Pirates & Nomads mod
QNP = Quasi-Newtonian Propulsion
ST = Star Trek
SW = Star Wars
TDM = Tamper-Daynar-Mephisto mod

[Suicide Junkie]

NSP = Null-space Projector
RW = Ringworld
SW = Sphereworld (aka Dyson Sphere)
MC = Master Computer
SS = Space Station
BS = Battle Station
SB = StarBase
B/CQ/LS = Bridge, Crew Quarters, and Life Support. (aka C&C = Command & Control)

[LazarusLong42]

One very PBW-specific acronym:

ALPU: After Last Player Upload

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Gryphin:
Ships:
ES = Escort
FF = Fast Frigate
DD = Destroyer
LC = Light Cruiser
CC = Cruiser
BC = BattleCrusier
BB = Battleship
DN = Dreadnaught
CV = Carrier, (yes it is a duplicate but should be able to pick up from context)

Those are the easy ones.
Anybody with the ones I missed?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Umm... it would be much better to use the actual acromnyms that the game uses for ship sizes, instead of an external mechanism.

Hey, you missed B5!!! Can't forget Babylon 5. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ October 24, 2002, 21:51: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Ragnarok]

PBEM: Play by Email.

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

Hey, you missed B5!!! Can't forget Babylon 5. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Does having B5 make it fair to have Farscape? FS.
Or any of the Star trek series?

ST:TNG, Star Trek The Next Generation
ST:V, Star Trek Voyager
ST:DSP, Star Trek Deep Space Nine
ST:E, Star Trek Enterprise
ST:TOS, Star Trek The Original Series

Don't ask me why I'm submitting all these. They aren't even THAT related to SEIV.

[ October 24, 2002, 21:54: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Gryphin:
Ships:
ES = Escort
FF = Fast Frigate
DD = Destroyer
LC = Light Cruiser
CC = Cruiser
BC = BattleCrusier
BB = Battleship
DN = Dreadnaught
CV = Carrier, (yes it is a duplicate but should be able to pick up from context)

Those are the easy ones.
Anybody with the ones I missed?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Umm... it would be much better to use the actual acromnyms that the game uses for ship sizes, instead of an external mechanism.

Hey, you missed B5!!! Can't forget Babylon 5. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Fyron...you make a good point about using the acronyms which SE4 uses.

I have misplaced my manual...can anyone post the SE4 acronyms?

[Fyron]

Look in Vehiclesize.txt for the line that says Code for each vehicle.

[Atraikius]

Not quite an SE4 acronym, but:

BOHICA = Bend Over, Here It Comes Again

[capnq]

Corrected spellings:

TDM = Tampa_Gamer-Daynarr-Mephisto mod

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by capnq:
Corrected spellings:

TDM = Tampa_Gamer-Daynarr-Mephisto mod<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's what that stands for. I never knew and I guess I never really wondered. Wow, I'm amazed.

[Skulky]

Here are real MM ship desginations in order of size

ES
FG (some call it a FF anyway)
DS (although everyone calls it a DD)
LC
CR
BC
BB
DN
BA (baseship)
LX (light carrier)
CX (carrier, some use CVL)
HX
SS (space station)
BS
SB (starbase)
CL (colony ship
ST, MT, LT (transports)
FS, FM, FL (fighters)
SS,SM, SL (sats)
SM, MM, LM (mines)
TS, TM, TL (troops)
WS, WM, WL (wep plats)
RS, RM, RL (drones)

O and on the Encyclopedia Malfadorica, taken right of Foundation no doubt, that sounds daunting, we recently passed the 80k mark. I think that is waht people have been trying unsuccesfully for a long time. But to categorize all the good and bad ideas, strategies, OT discussions, you're looking at a full times staff of an ENTIRE PLANET (well not really but im thinking of Terminus).

So long and please ignore my OT ramblings.

also add IIRC IMO IMHO

[Fyron]

And don't forget:

IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer)
PITA (Pain In The Arse)

[tbontob]

Thanx Skulky

Makes my job a bit easier with your listing! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[tbontob]

Well, I have the new listing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

It is growing like Topsy. As such, it may lose some of it's relevance unless we make a decision as to its purpose.

So, is the purpose of this dictionary is to be:
1) Common everyday usage? In this case we can turf over 20 MM acronyms.
2) Common everyday usage and MM acronyms?

I included the MM acronyms in the listing. It will be easy to remove some of them if we wish.

I didn’t include stuff like IANAL, PITA, and Star Trek/Deep Space Nine/Voyager/The Next Generation as IMHO they are peripheral acronyms and not germane to the task of providing useful and meaningful acronyms to most SE4 Users.

However, I have no intention of being heavy handed about this. If the consensus is to include one or more of the excluded items, I have no problem in doing so.

Here’s the new up-to-date listing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

=====================================

AI = Artificial Intelligence, Computer Player
APB = Anti-Proton Beam, Weapon
APLU = After Last Player Upload
AS = Allegiance Subverter, Weapon

B = Bridge, Component
BA = Baseship, Hull
BB = Battleship, Hull
BC = BattleCrusier, Hull
BS = Battle Station, Hull

CA = Crystalline Armor, Component
CC = Cruiser, Hull
CL = Colony Ship, Hull
CQ = Crew Quarters, Component
CR = Cruiser, Hull
CSM = Capital Ship Missile, Weapon
CX = Carrier, Hull (or CV)
CV = Computer Virus, Weapon

DS = Destroyer, Hull (or DD)
DN = Dreadnaught, Hull
DUC = Depleted Uranium Cannon, Weapon

ES = Escort, Hull

FG = Frigate, Hull (or FF)
FL = Large Fighter, Hull
FM = Medium Fighter, Hull
FS = Small Fighter, Hull

GGGGGGGGGG

HW = Homeworld, Planet type
HX = Heavy Carrier, Hull

IIIIIIIIII

JJJJJJJJJJ

KKKKKKKKKK

LC = Light Cruiser, Hull
LM = Large Mines, Hull
LS = Life Support, Component
LT = Large Transport, Hull
LX = Light Carrier, Hull

MB = Meson BLaster, Weapon
MC = Master Computer, Component
MM = Malfador Machinations, Creator of SE4
MM = Medium Mines, Hull
MT = Medium Transport, Hull

NSP = Null-Space Projector, Weapon

OA = Organic Armour, Component

PBEM = Play By Email
PBW = Play By Web, Game Mode
PDC = Point Defense Cannon, Weapon
PPB = Phased-Polaron Beam, Weapon

QR = Quantum Reactor, Component

RL = Large Drone, Hull
RM = Medium Drone, Hull
RS = Small Drone, Hull
RW = Ringworld, Hull

SB = Starbase, Hull
SDD = Self-Destruct Device, Weapon
SL = Large Satellite, Hull
SM = Medium Satellite, Hull
SM = Small Mines, Hull
SS = Small Satellite, Hull
SS = Space Station, Hull
ST = Small Transport, Hull
SW = Sphereworld, Hull
SY = Space Yard, Facility

TDB = Time Distortion Burst, Weapon
TL = Large Troops, Hull
TM = Medium Troops, Hull
TS = Small Troops, Hull

UUUUUUUUUU

vsAI = Solo Game vs Computer, Game Mode

WL = Large Weapon Platform, Hull
WM = Medium Weapon Platform, Hull
WMG = Wave-Motion Gun, Weapon
WP = Warp Point, Location,
WP = Weapon Platform, Hull
WS = Small Weapon Platform, Hull

XXXYYYZZZZ

**FUN STUFF AND NOT SO FUN STUFF**
BOHICA = Bend Over, Here It Comes Again
DNM = Devnull Mod
FQM = Fyron's Quadrant Mod
P&N = Pirates & Nomads mod
QNP = Quasi-Newtonian Propulsion
ST = Star Trek
SW = Star Wars
TDM = Tamper-Gamer-Daynar-Mephisto mod

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Gryphin:
tbontob,
Do you need this put into a spreadsheet or tab delimited file for easier manipulation?
I can help with that.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Gryphin

I very much appreciate the offer to help, although I am not sure what you are offering. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I am managing the data on a spreadsheet now.

The spreadsheet makes the data relatively easy to handle and sort.

The hard part is deciding what data is meaningful to the readers of this dictionary. For myself, I would like a dictionary of the most common Acronym usage. With this view, some of the MM definitions would be excluded.

But maybe the majority want something different. In such a case, my view should not prevail.

To determine this question, I think I am going to have to take a poll. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Question is "Can I take a poll within this thread or must I start a new thread?"

[Slick]

After this list gets pretty complete and the additions slow down a bit, I recommend merging this with the Newbie FAQ. Good idea, btw.

Slick

[tbontob]

Thanx Slick http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Must admit, my motives were somewhat selfish...the acronyms were driving me crazy at times! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by tbontob:


Question is "Can I take a poll within this thread or must I start a new thread?"<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You have to start a new thread.

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Skulky:
also add IIRC IMO IMHO<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Missed this in your posting! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I asked a couple of weeks ago what IIRC means? I've forgotten! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Age must be getting to me!

I believe the other two mean:
IMO = In my opinion
IMHO = In my humble opinion

This can go into "fun stuff"

[Suicide Junkie]

Here's a good one, that was thrown around a while ago:
SEX = The highly anticipated Tenth game in the Space Empires Series. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

PS:
IIRC, IIRC = If I Recall Correctly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ October 25, 2002, 16:46: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

[Gryphin]

The purpose of my offer to put it in a spread sheet was for exactly what you did. A tab delimited file is a text file that most Word Processors, Spread Sheet, and Database programs can import. A separate file would be good to have for people who are reading a thread, run into a Acronym and need to bring up the list. I read the forums with a database open designed to take notes on various aspects of the game.

Most likely it is over kill.

Perhaps the Newbie Guide, Acronym
List and others should be merged into the "Encyclopedia Malfadorica”

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Gryphin:
A separate file would be good to have for people who are reading a thread, run into a Acronym and need to bring up the list.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Gryphin, sounds like a good idea. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

How would it work in practice?

You also say:

I read the forums with a database open designed to take notes on various aspects of the game. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good idea! Never thought of it! So obvious! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Ragnarok]

Don't know if you want to use this one but... OT: Off Topic

[Ragnarok]

"SEX = The highly anticipated Tenth game in the Space Empires Series."

I can see this one. Someone will make a site dedicated to this tenth Version of SE and have a .org domain name. Thus it would be, "www.SE-X.org"... some idiot would then add a Y to the end of that just for kicks.

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by tbontob:


Question is "Can I take a poll within this thread or must I start a new thread?"<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You have to start a new thread.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OK maybe we can put a link to the Poll. Anybody know how to do this?

The form of the poll I am considering is:

POLL
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What form should the acronym dictionary take?

1) the form it now has

2) include only the most commonly used acronyms - delete acronyms not in common use such as MM's "TL = Large Troops, Hull"
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Any discussion on this?

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Gryphin:
I read the forums with a database open designed to take notes on various aspects of the game.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would love to take a peek at your database. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Gryphin]

Two ways to have the page open while reading the forums
1) copy and paste the data into a program you have
2) Click on a link to the page from inside the forum

The tab delimeted text file allows someone to import it to many different programs.

[Val]

I don't know if anyone else uses this, but I usually refer to a Gas Giant as a GG. The G's were looking a little empty.

and of course B5 would be Babylon 5 as in the B5Mod (blatant plug) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[LazarusLong42]

Why not just set up a Wikipedia for SE/MM related stuff? That would get us our Encyclopaedia Malfadorica. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

LL

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Val:
I don't know if anyone else uses this, but I usually refer to a Gas Giant as a GG. The G's were looking a little empty.

and of course B5 would be Babylon 5 as in the B5Mod (blatant plug) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Val

If it is a bona fide mod and there is an acronym for it, we can include it in the fun stuff.
Just give it in the format we use like:

FQM = Fyron's Quadrant Mod

Edit: Is GG an acronym? Like something in everyday use?

[ October 25, 2002, 23:40: Message edited by: tbontob ]

[Gryphin]

tbontob,
Do you need this put into a spreadsheet or tab delimited file for easier manipulation?
I can help with that.

[Andrés]

I made a list adding names from the data files.
I got 354 names, but too many repeated ancronyms, for example SS stands for:
SS = Supply Storage, Component
SS = Security Station, Component
SS = Solar Sail, Component
SS = Space Station , Hull
SS = Small Satellite , Hull

[tbontob]

I have created a poll "What form should the acronym dictionary take"

We may get more votes and therefore a more representative sample, if we can create a link to it from this thread.

I would ask anyone who are skilled in this, to create such a link. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Andr&eacutes Lescano:
I made a list adding names from the data files.
I got 354 names, but too many repeated ancronyms, for example SS stands for:
SS = Supply Storage, Component
SS = Security Station, Component
SS = Solar Sail, Component
SS = Space Station , Hull
SS = Small Satellite , Hull<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh boy! LOL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

This may be a good time to vote on the type of dictionary we want. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[dogscoff]

another common acronym: MEE = Mega Evil Empire.

[tbontob]

Come on guys...vote!

So, far it is 2 to 3. You'll have to vote to see which is which. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Don't know what I'll do it it comes out more or less even. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

[Val]

I don't really know if many other people use GG for Gas Giant, hence why I posted it, to see if I (and a few other B5 Modders) was the only one who used it.

I'm guessing the B5Mod is a valid mod. Has been referred to as such for almost a year now. You can be the judge http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Val:
I don't really know if many other people use GG for Gas Giant, hence why I posted it, to see if I (and a few other B5 Modders) was the only one who used it.

I'm guessing the B5Mod is a valid mod. Has been referred to as such for almost a year now. You can be the judge http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Val http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I think I may have been misunderstood.

I am a newbie and know next to nothing about mods http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

If you say it is a valid mod, then it is a valid mod and I accept your word for it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif If it isn't, I think you will find a bunch of guys jumping all over you. And then we will have an issue.

So, the only thing I am waiting from you is your discription of the mod in the format such as:

FQM = Fyron's Quadrant Mod

Another point, mods do not have to wait until the acronym becomes common partly because they are put into the fun stuff and partly because they are separate from the main database of acronyms.

Also, if the creator of the mod does not like the current acronym in use for it, I see no problem in the mod's creator asking for a new acronym which he would like to be used. Of course, if the old one is in the database of acronyms, the old one will have to be deleted. Some guys may jump all over me on this, but it seems to me, the creator of a mod should have a major input on the acronym which he wishes to be used.

About GG, see my explanation in the Poll. What is decided in the poll will determine how we treat acronyms such as GG. But whatever is decided, at a bare minimum, if it is in common use, it should be included!"

Edit: I only have one suggestion about acronyms...and that is try to keep it short, sweet and simple. An acronym like XEVTJJR is less likely to be remembered and used than say, XEV.

[ October 26, 2002, 20:25: Message edited by: tbontob ]

[tbontob]

New listing of acronyms! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Mostly in the Fun Stuff!

Andre, I haven't forgotten about you and your listing of the "SS's" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

=====================================

AI = Artificial Intelligence, Computer Player
APB = Anti-Proton Beam, Weapon
APLU = After Last Player Upload
AS = Allegiance Subverter, Weapon

B = Bridge, Component
BA = Baseship, Hull
BB = Battleship, Hull
BC = BattleCrusier, Hull
BS = Battle Station, Hull

CA = Crystalline Armor, Component
CC = Cruiser, Hull
CL = Colony Ship, Hull
CQ = Crew Quarters, Component
CR = Cruiser, Hull
CSM = Capital Ship Missile, Weapon
CX = Carrier, Hull (or CV)
CV = Computer Virus, Weapon

DS = Destroyer, Hull (or DD)
DN = Dreadnaught, Hull
DUC = Depleted Uranium Cannon, Weapon

ES = Escort, Hull

FG = Frigate, Hull (or FF)
FL = Large Fighter, Hull
FM = Medium Fighter, Hull
FS = Small Fighter, Hull

GGGGGGGGGG

HW = Homeworld, Planet type
HX = Heavy Carrier, Hull

IIIIIIIIII

JJJJJJJJJJ

KKKKKKKKKK

LC = Light Cruiser, Hull
LM = Large Mines, Hull
LS = Life Support, Component
LT = Large Transport, Hull
LX = Light Carrier, Hull

MB = Meson BLaster, Weapon
MC = Master Computer, Component
MM = Malfador Machinations, Creator of SE4
MM = Medium Mines, Hull
MT = Medium Transport, Hull

NSP = Null-Space Projector, Weapon

OA = Organic Armour, Component

PBEM = Play By Email
PBW = Play By Web, Game Mode
PDC = Point Defense Cannon, Weapon
PPB = Phased-Polaron Beam, Weapon

QR = Quantum Reactor, Component

RL = Large Drone, Hull
RM = Medium Drone, Hull
RS = Small Drone, Hull
RW = Ringworld, Hull

SB = Starbase, Hull
SDD = Self-Destruct Device, Weapon
SL = Large Satellite, Hull
SM = Medium Satellite, Hull
SM = Small Mines, Hull
SS = Small Satellite, Hull
SS = Space Station, Hull
ST = Small Transport, Hull
SW = Sphereworld, Hull
SY = Space Yard, Facility

TDB = Time Distortion Burst, Weapon
TL = Large Troops, Hull
TM = Medium Troops, Hull
TS = Small Troops, Hull

UUUUUUUUUU

vsAI = Solo Game vs Computer, Game Mode

WL = Large Weapon Platform, Hull
WM = Medium Weapon Platform, Hull
WMG = Wave-Motion Gun, Weapon
WP = Warp Point, Location,
WP = Weapon Platform, Hull
WS = Small Weapon Platform, Hull

XXXYYYZZZZ

**FUN STUFF AND NOT SO FUN STUFF**
BOHICA = Bend Over, Here It Comes Again
BTW = By The Way
DNM = Devnull Mod
FQM = Fyron's Quadrant Mod
IIRC = If I Remember Correctly
IMHO = In MY Humble Opinion
IMO = In My Opinion
MEE = Mega Evil Empire
OT = Off topic
P&N = Pirates & Nomads mod
QNP = Quasi-Newtonian Propulsion
ST = Star Trek
SW = Star Wars
TDM = Tamper-Gamer-Daynar-Mephisto mod