Make me a signature or... something

[Instar]

Ive noticed that a great deal of people have unique and good signatures. Others well... I dunno.
But I do not have a signature. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
I am open to suggestions, so bust out the thinking caps.
Be creative, or something. Or maybe not.

[tesco samoa]

Instar signature.

" I do not need a signature. "

How is that one

Or

Seen on the men's room wall at the BoardWalk Blues Cafe in Nashville - "I screwed your mother" and below it was written - "Go home dad, your drunk!"

Or

Life is like stepping onto a boat which is about to sail out to sea and sink. - Shunryu Suzuki Roshi

Or

If I get male pattern baldness, I'd like zig-zags please

Thats all I got.

Perhaps you could have

Place Sig here ------> <--------Place Sig here

[Ed Kolis]

Launch Every Sig! For Great Justice! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[sachmo]

Originally posted by Instar:
Ive noticed that a great deal of people have unique and good signatures. Others well... I dunno.
But I do not have a signature. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
I am open to suggestions, so bust out the thinking caps.
Be creative, or something. Or maybe not.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All your Instar are belong to us? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by Instar:
Ive noticed that a great deal of people have unique and good signatures. Others well... I dunno.
But I do not have a signature. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
I am open to suggestions, so bust out the thinking caps.
Be creative, or something. Or maybe not.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">"It's driving me nuts!" (I'm kidding about that one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Or... "I opened mouth kissed a horse once."

[ December 09, 2002, 01:24: Message edited by: Ragnarok ]

[mlmbd]

Instar, I'm thinking, maybe...maybe. Hey wait a minute, I don't have a signature yet! Not even a bad one. I will back to you, Instar. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

mlmbd http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

[Will]

Well, there's always "Too cool for a sig..."
That only works if you're the only one in the forum that has it, and I don't think I've seen it here...

"Welcome to the Asylum" fits you well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Cheeze]

"You know what you are doing! Take off every SIG!!"

[Stone Mill]

"What you say?" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Lemmy]

Quotes are always good sig material, if you skim through Ruatha's thread o' nonsense, you'll probably find some nice sig material. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[sachmo]

I used to use quotes from Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy.

Here is one of my Favorites...

"If trees could scream, would we be so quick to cut them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason."

OR....

"Is there anything more beautiful than a beautiful, beautiful bird? And in his beak is a beautiful rose, and he's carrying a beautiful, beautiful painting? And also, you're drunk."

[tesco samoa]

"mineral planets are best "

[Perrin]

I dare you to use this one:
"I taught Imperator Fyron everything he knows!" <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Gryphin]

If you are not careful your sig could end you up in a discussion on psycology or phyics or spelling.

[Zarix]

"I am THE SUPERBUNNY. I will throw my cordless mouse in your CPU fan!"

[Desdinova]

if nothing else you can always takes stuff from books, movies, games and places like that.

[ December 09, 2002, 19:06: Message edited by: desdinova ]

[Matryx]

Well I may as well contribute
One of my favourites is
"Please direct all feedback to /dev/null"
or
"real programmers do cp /dev/random * and cross their fingers"

alternatively there is

"No Trendy Logos"

or

"It takes a big man to cry, but a bigger man to laugh in the face of that man"

[Matryx]

OR even, you could write something, and then use your sig to advertise it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Puke]

well, mine is a total out of context quote from a dead author that I enjoy. For general use, I recommend bad one-liners.

like:

Those who live in glass houses... Should dress in the basement

and:

Sosumi's: Best Kosher Sushi in town.

or quote famous military personalities like Tsu, Mac Arthur (i never remember if he was a Mac or a Mc), or Sherman.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Perrin:
I dare you to use this one:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">"I taught Imperator Fyron everything he knows!" <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL! Only I could make that claim though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[Instar]

how about:
"
void base(int bomb)
{
if(bomb==Some1SetUsUp()) printf("Someone set us up the bomb!\n");
while(sig!=0)
{
sig.takeoff();
sig.move(forGreatJustice);
}
}"
It seems too long, but I like C

[Instar]

or:
"Aaah General Tso... you are a vile, vile man, but your chicken is so tasty."

[mlmbd]

Instar, could I ask where the handle comes from?

mlmbd http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

[Instar]

I made it up a long time ago, when I was on a 300 baud BBS thing. For a character in a game.
Then I looked it up in an encyclopedia (its really a word! I didnt know!)
But anyhow, I made it up at first, and then found out it was a word

[mlmbd]

Instar, that is why I asked. I wanted to know what "you" meant. What was/is the character "Instar" like? I was pretty sure you were not thinking of yourself as an arthropod. But I wanted to be sure.

Don't you miss those wonderous days of 300 baud? My computer experiences go back even further than that!

mlmbd http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

[Instar]

Well, the character "Instar" I had in mind was smart strong and powerful. Like a battlemage or an honorable warrior person, pehaps a paladin of righteousness, but grittier than pure good.
along the same lines as a signature, I wonder which avatar image I should use:
1039477491.bmp (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1039477491.bmp)
or
1039477665.bmp (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1039477665.bmp)

[mlmbd]

I personally like the second image. Do you do any grafics? If not I could clean that one up. If you want! Before, you have it put under glass!

As to the signature, how about an image of you super warrior-paladin? Not your avatar. A really nice 3D image, maybe 1200x800.

Your avatar??
1039478828.jpg (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1039478828.jpg)

mlmbd http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

[ December 10, 2002, 00:22: Message edited by: mlmbd ]

[Instar]

Well, the second image is undoubtedly better looking, as its from a XBox game, but the first one is Doom1! Its nostalgia! It even looks like me (the real me, a little bit)
I dont have any graphics programs at all. So go ahead and edit them
I have bigger pics available for sources for both of them
as for the image sig, a warrior paladin type pic would be neato burrito, but I dont like having really large images part of my signature, as people with 56ks or slower load them very slowly
I would like to combine a ninja, with MasterChief from halo, and a paladin all in one to form the ultimate fighting machine

[ December 10, 2002, 00:13: Message edited by: Instar ]

[mlmbd]

An any images you want you can email me. And I will start to work on them.

I will email you more images. That was just to give you an idea, of what I meant. Then you can decided which if any of them you want people to see.

I would like to combine a ninja, with MasterChief from halo, and a paladin all in one to form the ultimate fighting machine <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I will see what if anything I can come up with!

And I do understand about the image being part of your sig. Same resaon I haven't come up with one for myself! I have a couple "killer images" I had thught about using!

mlmbd http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

[dogscoff]

I used to have "Are you pondering what I'm pondering quotes" from PInky and the Brain. I'd change them every so often, but soon got bored.

You could simply go for "my growth is astonishing" or some such.

And there's always the SE4 code (see my sig for that one)...

[Instar]

Basically I really like MasterChief from Halo, you can find tons of pics for him on any gaming site. For ninjas I reccomend www.realultimatepower.net (http://www.realultimatepower.net)

[tesco samoa]

Ok.... Use this sig....

For no other will deal with the wisdom and logic of this quote

Minsc will lead the way with blade and Boot - Boo will take care of the details... - Minsc, famous ranger

[Will]

Originally posted by desdinova:
"Fire at Will!"
"Who's Will?"
"The guy behind you aiming the HEL-gun." - Unknown<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Stone Mill]

"I came here to kick *** and chew bubblegum... and I'm all out of bubblegum!"

[Gryphin]

Where are we going and what's up with this handbasket"

“Peace is our profession, Planet Glazing is only a Hobby”

[ December 10, 2002, 16:45: Message edited by: Gryphin ]

[Stone Mill]

"Greetings from the Terran Federation. We come in Pea-- Wait a minute. This planet used to be inhabited...
DOH! I forgot to change my default ship strategy!!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

[tesco samoa]

http://www.coolsig.com/

bah

[Instar]

Minsc rules. I loved trying to take Boo from him, and that message box was funny. Oh Minsc, where are you now adays? what do you do after you squashed much evil?

[Instar]

A slipping gear could let your M203 grenade launcher fire when you least expect it. That would make you quite unpopular in what's left of your unit. - the Army's magazine of preventive maintenance.

holy crap thats awesome

[David E. Gervais]

I just poped in and browsed this thread and caught a few Posts about the good old days of 300 baud modems... aaaah my eyes glazed over and I flashed back to the very first file I downloaded from a BBS.. a musical tune called 'Passionately' that ran on my old Atari800 computer. A while back I found the file on one of those retrogamming sites and booted up an atari emulator and played it again for the first time,.. sweet and catchy tune. I liked it so much I captured the sound and created an mp3 of it. Now I can listen to it anytime and don't have to run an emulator to do it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ..my eyes come back in focus.. where am I? Oh, was I babbling again, sorry!

..Yes I know I'm a goof, but I'm a good goof!

Cheers!

[ December 10, 2002, 23:34: Message edited by: David Gervais ]

[mlmbd]

David, talking about 300 baud can have that effect on you! Don't remember anyone saying you're a goof! Even if you are. Don't remember anyone saying it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif There isn't a thing wrong with being a goof. I speak from first hand experience!

mlmbd http://www.shrapnelgames.com//ubb/icons/icon6.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

[Instar]

geez
I can't deal with anything less than broadband now... life has changed. OC-3 kicks major ***

[David E. Gervais]

Instar, when I look at (and while I made) your avatar I thought,...{there you are Instar, a bonified Doomaholic frozen in time behind a clear glass retrobubble. Your glowing eyes staring out at the future that quickly joins you in the past. Taking pride in knowing that Doom is the father of all 3D shooters..} Ok, a little thick, but fun no?

When Doom came out, I was the resident deathmatch champion where I worked. In one massive weekend- long marathon of Doom-Deathmatch play, I came out on top with 3201 Total kills, my nearest competitor had 621 kills. I never killed from the same place twice in a row and never hovered at the entrence point. That was great fun!

Cheers!

[David E. Gervais]

The remark about being a goof was in response to the gremlin that hides behind my back, it's called a whosit. Or.. I was talking to myself again! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif .. "What's that? (turning to catch a glimpse of the gremlin.) don't get me started, maybe I can't turn around fast enough to see you but I can still Fart with the best of them!" (hmm the gremlin seems strangely quiet all of a sudden!) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

..don't mind me, I'm suffering from Avatar fever! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Instar]

Holy crap 3201 kills is insane... have you seen the shots for Doom 3? I want to cream my pants every time. I hope my spiffy GF4 Ti can run it!
Im a good FPS player, but 100 is hard enough! let alone 3200!
Then again, I never kept count. I am the master of UT2k3 so I guess I have a ton of kills.
man
I got a Doom emulator and the wads... played them all over again, just for fun
Heck Id venture into saying the Doom is in part one reason for the ultimate success of PC games!

[ December 11, 2002, 04:10: Message edited by: Instar ]

[dogscoff]

I can't deal with anything less than broadband now... life has changed.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He who laughs Last... is on dialup.

The ironic thing is that it used to be "He who laughs Last is on 1200 baud"

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
http://www.coolsig.com/

bah<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thank's, that's a good one.

[Instar]

Time for a decision... there are many good ideas, but I must make a decision...
Hmmmm...
Time will tell what I will pick
on one forum I was able to get a script to run a variety of quotes, but that wont work here
It was neato burrito, I had like 40 quotes all randomly chosen each time

[ December 14, 2002, 07:53: Message edited by: Instar ]

[Taera]

its late, i'll have some suggestions tomorrow.
For now, Instar, have you played Doom2GL? its a rework of doom 2. same game, quake-1-2 style graphics. nice.
And also, you call yourself doom fan, have you played all three expansions for Doom 2? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Instar]

Ive gotten the emulator that allows importing mdl files. Its pretty good and yeah, Ive played every single Version of Doom
Never made any wads for it though

[Instar]

voila!

[ December 15, 2002, 20:04: Message edited by: Instar ]

[Ruatha]

"When a cat is dropped, it always lands on its feet, and when toast is dropped, it always lands with the buttered side facing down. I propose to strap buttered toast to the back of a cat. The two will hover, spinning inches above the ground. With a giant buttered cat array, a high-speed monorail could easily link New York with Chicago."

What do you call that device, and is the cat happy? Will the butter go bad, will it smell? Will it be a "Smelly Cat"(TM)?

[Kamog]

That's an interesting sig! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

...um, one time I dropped my toast and it landed with the butter side facing UP! It must have been at a moment of special planetary alignment or something. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

It will probably never happen again... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif (It's one of those "maybe it will happen once in your lifetime if you're extremely lucky" type of events.)

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by Kamog:
That's an interesting sig! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

...um, one time I dropped my toast and it landed with the butter side facing UP! It must have been at a moment of special planetary alignment or something. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

It will probably never happen again... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif (It's one of those "maybe it will happen once in your lifetime if you're extremely lucky" type of events.)<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ok, I am going to run a test to see how often this works. 20 loaves of bread here I come....

[Instar]

I saw it on coolsig, and I loved it
Its a violation of thermodynamics... but it would WORK!
I will use it to power my spaceship

[Ruatha]

Butter study (http://www.worldlink.co.uk/stories/storyReader$852)

Earlier this year over a thousand schoolchildren across Britain took part in a mass experiment to get to the bottom of one of the most vexing questions of our time: is it true that tumbling toast tends to land butter-side down? The experiment was the world’s biggest-ever investigation of Murphy’s Law – that "if something can go wrong, it will." Over 20,000 tumbles of toast later, the truth was finally revealed. When it slides off a plate, toast really does land butter-side down more often than not: 62% of the time, to be precise.

The experiment had finally got to the bottom of what many scientists have dismissed as a silly urban myth, yet countless breakfast-eaters insist is an irksome reality. Indeed, the study went further, showing that the cause of the trouble wasn’t the weight of the butter or the aerodynamics of the toast, but simply the fact that toast tumbling from table-height doesn’t spin fast enough to bring the buttered side on top again before the toast hits the floor.

[ December 16, 2002, 07:51: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[Gryphin]

Ruatha, thanks. that tid bit, (or bit tid) will give me conversational material for all of the seaasonal parties now through new years.
Good one.

[Ragnarok]

Yeah, thanks Ruatha. (You are all knowing arn't you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

But that showed 62% landed butter side down. My test showed 63%. So I wasn't too far behind. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (Considering I didn't do no test.)

[Desdinova]

interesting article. i still cant believe someone actually did a test like this though. lol

[DarkHorse]

Originally posted by Kamog:
That's an interesting sig! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

...um, one time I dropped my toast and it landed with the butter side facing UP! It must have been at a moment of special planetary alignment or something. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

It will probably never happen again... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif (It's one of those "maybe it will happen once in your lifetime if you're extremely lucky" type of events.)<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Are you in the southern hemisphere by any chance? Perhaps the coriolis effect causes toast to spin in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere, thus altering the fundamental physics of the buttered toast phenomenon.

[Kamog]

Hey, if you flush the toilet in the Southern Hemisphere, the water is supposed to swirl in the opposite direction as it goes down. I don't think this is true but I never had a chance to do an experiment to see if it's true.

I'll go flush my toilet right now and see which way it swirls...
OK, it swirls COUNTER-CLOCKWISE. I am in the Northern Hemisphere.

I don't think I'll have an opportunity to visit the Southern Hemiphere anytime soon, so if you live there, please try flushing your toilet. (And if you're in the Northern Hemisphere, does your toilet swirl counter-clockwise like mine does?)

I wonder what happens if you're at the North Pole, or South Pole, or on the Equator?

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by Kamog:
Hey, if you flush the toilet in the Southern Hemisphere, the water is supposed to swirl in the opposite direction as it goes down. I don't think this is true but I never had a chance to do an experiment to see if it's true.

I'll go flush my toilet right now and see which way it swirls...
OK, it swirls COUNTER-CLOCKWISE. I am in the Northern Hemisphere.

I don't think I'll have an opportunity to visit the Southern Hemiphere anytime soon, so if you live there, please try flushing your toilet. (And if you're in the Northern Hemisphere, does your toilet swirl counter-clockwise like mine does?)

I wonder what happens if you're at the North Pole, or South Pole, or on the Equator?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The toilet is too small a system for the coriolis effect to have any implication. Wich way the water turns in the toilet is based on where the water enters, imperfections in the toilet and where it exits. A toilet that spins the water clockwise on the nortern hemisphere will do so also on the south hemisphere.
The coriolis effect needs large weather systems to really make any impact.

Better explanation (http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadCoriolis.html)

[ December 17, 2002, 07:55: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[Kamog]

Wow, thanks, Ruatha! I remember hearing about the water swirling the opposite way in the Southern Hemisphere a number of times from different people, and each time I heard it, I had this nagging feeling that it didn't seem right... but I couldn't come up with a good argument to say why it's not right, so I couldn't disagree, and it sort of bothered me for years!

[Desdinova]

you can alway fill up your sink or bathtub and let it drain. that will be affected by the effect.

[Puke]

Originally posted by Kamog:
That's an interesting sig! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

...um, one time I dropped my toast and it landed with the butter side facing UP! It must have been at a moment of special planetary alignment or something. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

It will probably never happen again... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif (It's one of those "maybe it will happen once in your lifetime if you're extremely lucky" type of events.)<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">no, the answer is simple: you buttered the wrong side.

[Kamog]

Next time, I'll butter half of one side and half of the other side, so at least I know that I'm half right about which side to put the butter on.

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by desdinova:
you can alway fill up your sink or bathtub and let it drain. that will be affected by the effect.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">-nope, it won't.
It's just to small a system to be effected by the coriolis effect.

[Krsqk]

Well, if you plugged up most of the drain so it drained very slowly, the Coriolis force could eventually reverse it, given enough time. It affects all systems; it just is a weak force compared to the force of the rotation of the system.

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by Krsqk:
Well, if you plugged up most of the drain so it drained very slowly, the Coriolis force could eventually reverse it, given enough time. It affects all systems; it just is a weak force compared to the force of the rotation of the system.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If it drained very slowly it wouldn't build up any momentum for it to spin, right?
It would essentially be a system with water standing still. And you don't se still standing water starting to spin by itself just becourse you let it be for a couple of weeks, months, years...

[ December 18, 2002, 15:09: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[Krsqk]

I'm assuming there's some momentum to begin with. It wouldn't reverse the flow, but it would slow it down/stop it.

[Desdinova]

Originally posted by Ruatha:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by desdinova:
you can alway fill up your sink or bathtub and let it drain. that will be affected by the effect.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">-nope, it won't.
It's just to small a system to be effected by the coriolis effect.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">the bathtub should work. as a child i remeber playing in the tub. i would fill it up a couple of inches and drain the water and watch stuff get sucked down the whirlpool. i used to watch the stuff go round and round the vortex until it got sucked it. i was easily amused as a child. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ December 18, 2002, 17:15: Message edited by: desdinova ]

[Ruatha]

Yes, but it doesn't involve the coriolis effect.
It depends on the shape of the bath tub, the position of the drain, the movement of water before it starts to go down the drain, etc etc.

If you take all the necessery steps and have a perfect vessel for the water and observe very closely you might be able to detect the coriolis force, but I wouldn't bet on it on your first attempt!

[ December 18, 2002, 17:18: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[Desdinova]

i read some articles and they explain why it wouldnt affect the bathtub. oh well, it was still fun to do as a child http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Puke]

is this still the sig thread? does Arkcon read this?

I like his sig:

--------------------
It is by Caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion-
It is by the beans of Java, that thoughts acquire speed-
The hands acquire shakes; the shakes become a warning-
It is by Caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion...

some time ago, i was thinking of pitching an energy drink marketing scheme to any random cola company.

The Juice of S.N.A.F.U.: When will alone will not set your mind in motion.

[Arkcon]

Originally posted by Puke:
is this still the sig thread? does Arkcon read this?

I like his sig:

some time ago, i was thinking of pitching an energy drink marketing scheme to any random cola company.

The Juice of S.N.A.F.U.: When will alone will not set your mind in motion.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Puke, that is too funny. I don't know where I found my sig -- probably I was searching for Dune info when the House books came out.

Here's something fun, print out my sig, but select a font small, with shadowing -- it will seem to vibrate. Great for the coffee maker at work.

Or for the discerning ... Click Here (http://sinfest.net/d/20020513.html)

[ December 18, 2002, 21:57: Message edited by: Arkcon ]