Salvage leftovers from after a battle

[postwar salvage]

After a battle has taken place in a controlled system (ex. about a colonized world). Is it possible to extract any technology left behind by a defeated enemies ship or ground forces; the mechanics being similar to gaining technology from colonizing a planet with ruins on it? Or similar to a technology trade?

I've play numerous times in which a lowly low tech escort has destroyed up to a destroyer class ship armed with high tech weapons, but gains nothing but the praise and adoration of his race.

We of the T'garian collective (UPS - universal postwar salvage) deserve the goodies of those foolish enough to attack weaker races.

[Arkcon]

Originally posted by postwar salvage:
We of the T'garian collective (UPS - universal postwar salvage) deserve the goodies of those foolish enough to attack weaker races.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">[/role-play on]
You will gain nothing from carnage, oh members of the T'garian. Only the dust of the void and the vapors of smashed ion engines for you.

[/role play off]

Hey there, research boarding parties and capture complete ships. Then you can take them back to a shipyard and analyze them for technology.

Supposedly, captureing planets with facilities on them that you can't build will help you research that unknown technology -- but this effect is hard to prove.

Originally posted by postwar salvage:
I've play numerous times in which a lowly low tech escort has destroyed up to a destroyer class ship armed with high tech weapons, but gains nothing but the praise and adoration of his race.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, I'll take adoration any day. Your planets are happy and produce more. That ship has earned experience that will help it attack and defend. All good stuff.

[ December 28, 2002, 22:54: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

[Fyron]

Supposedly, captureing planets with facilities on them that you can't build will help you research that unknown technology -- but this effect is hard to prove.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That does not happen. You can not analyze a facility.

[Q]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Supposedly, captureing planets with facilities on them that you can't build will help you research that unknown technology -- but this effect is hard to prove.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That does not happen. You can not analyze a facility.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Correct, you can't gain technology from capturing a colony. But I wonder why MM made this difference to SE III. Does anybody know the reason?

[capnq]

You also can steal techs with the level 3 intel op Technological Espionage, or capture them by forcing an empire to surrender to you.

[Puke]

after reading about the mechanics of 0 structure components, I was considering making ships bridges structureless, so that destroyed ships would still linger in space until they are captured or repaired. the main problem with this, is that a fleet would still be bleeding its parent empire of maintenance funds, after it is destroyed.

[Arkcon]

Originally posted by Puke:
after reading about the mechanics of 0 structure components, I was considering making ships bridges structureless, so that destroyed ships would still linger in space until they are captured or repaired. the main problem with this, is that a fleet would still be bleeding its parent empire of maintenance funds, after it is destroyed.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, thats come up before. The idea of having salvage rights to a rotting hulk. The problem is the maintenance cost would be cruel vs the AI. If ship maintenance only covered functional components, then maybe it would be useful.

[Gryphin]

Zero kT Bridge,
Nice idea. It would work in a game with a "Galactic Merchant" that you could "sell" the hulks to, or maybe you would pay them a small sum to take it off your hands. The merchant would then send a Repair ship to take care of it.

[mottlee]

Originally posted by Puke:
after reading about the mechanics of 0 structure components, I was considering making ships bridges structureless, so that destroyed ships would still linger in space until they are captured or repaired. the main problem with this, is that a fleet would still be bleeding its parent empire of maintenance funds, after it is destroyed.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">HEHE Plan #1 Bleed them dry! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Jmenschenfresser]

It's still doable.

Reduce maintenance costs to zero percent and off set that advantage by playing a limited resource game.