OT: Movies You Have Seen Lately

[Atrocities]

Just thought I would say a few words about the movies I have seen lately. (Including DVD ones.)

Movies in Theaters

1. Catch me if you can.
I really liked this movie. I did not think I would, but I have to admit, I am going to go see it agian. A great cast from Christopher Walkens though Tom Hanks. Very interesting movie.

2. The two towers.
I liked this moive about as much as I liked the first one. Although this movie seems like it is missing about an hour or so of footage, and does not do much for developing the characters.

3. Nemesis
Not the best Star Trek movie I have seen, but never the less, a good flick to watch. I really think Brent Spiner did an awsome job in this movie as his performace is the one that just sticks out in this movie. The ending where he is about to die, and sacerfices his life without so much as a word to Picard was IMHO, great acting. Too bad there will never be another movie with Data.

4. 007 Die another day
Why did they make this movie? This was the worst Bond movie I have seen since Dalton was making them. It seems like each new Bond flick is worse than the one before it. Hell Triple X made a better Bond movie than this one.

DVD's

1. Ecks Vs Sever
Racidedly rotten flick with the worst kind of plot I have ever seen. This movie should never have been made.

2. I See You.
A Sly Stallon movie that is actually very good. It has an alstar cast that really do a good job here. I liked the suspense of the movie, and felt the plot, although weak, worked well because of the performances. Not a high standard for picture quality, but still a good movie. Reminded me in a way of the Thing with Kurt Russel.

3. Triple X
Oddly enough this movie was a good movie. It was what the latest Bond flick should have been. I like Vin as an actor, and feel he did a good job here. The movie was interesting, funny, and kept you wanting more right to the end. Not bad for a Bond spin off.

4. Blood work.
Not a bad movie for Clint, but horribly predictable.

5. Pluto Nash
I liked the movie. I really did. I felt it was a fun romp and it should have gotten better reviews. Eddie did a good job in this movie as it had a good atomsphere, and was moderatly intersting. I liked the DUC hand guns. Very cool.

[ January 07, 2003, 13:25: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[David E. Gervais]

Don't worry about the 'missing hour' in the Two Towers, I'm sure it will find it's way onto the DVD! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Dobian]

I saw Catch Me If You Can Last week. I actually read the book back in the 80's, and thought at the time, "This would make a great movie". I was really surprised when I heard they made a movie about it, because the book was written so long ago (and I figured was out of print), I couldn't imagine someone actually remembered it. The movie is pretty close to the book, although they emphasize his relationships with his family and with his pursuer more in the movie than in the book. In the book, he's just too busy having fun with his secret life to care about anything else.

The Pan Am part is the same as I remembered it from the book. The way did the checks and the fake i.d., etc. Same with his stint as the doctor. In the book, he poses as a college professor, while in the movie, they have him pulling that trick while he's in high school (though he may have done it there too). In the book, he explains that he passed the Bar after the third try. After the first two tries, he would get the test back with the correct answers and explanations, and he would simply memorize the correct answers - some of which would be recycled on the next test. This was glossed over in the movie. In the book, he gets caught in Sweden, and spends time in a prison that's more like a country club. This wasn't included in the movie (due to time limitations, I'm sure). He thought it would be the same deal in France, and was sorely mistaken. The book ends with him escaping through the toilet trap in the airplane. Good book, good movie.

[TerranC]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
1. Ecks Vs Sever
Racidedly rotten flick with the worst kind of plot I have ever seen. This movie should never have been made.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The title itself is a put off-what kind of name is Ecks? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[mac5732]

Just watched the movie Signs with Mel Gibson, I didn't get to see it at the show.... good movie
at least I liked it

just some ideas Mac

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by mac5732:
Just watched the movie Signs with Mel Gibson, I didn't get to see it at the show.... good movie
at least I liked it

just some ideas Mac<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That movie is awesome! I got to see it in a theatre and it was really good. I'll probably either rent it or buy it on DVD to watch again.

[Kamog]

I finally saw The Two Towers Last week. It was really good!

That day, they showed the previews for X-Men II and Terminator 3. Looks like there's going to be several good movies scheduled for this year. Matrix II and III are supposed to come out this year, too, and of course the third Lord of the Rings movie near the end of the year. I really liked the first two Terminator movies, so I can't wait to see #3. This time, there's a super advanced cyborg, even more advanced than the T-1000, the T-X, that is sent back in time to kill John Conner. And Schwarzenegger's in it too, of course.

[Suicide Junkie]

So, do we get a T-1000 on the good guy's side then? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[zen.]

If he is a T-1000, he certainly looks like the good ole T-800 model (Arnie). The new T-X is played by Kristanna Loken, who, if anyone recalls, played the nice-on-the-eyes thief on the short-lived TV show Mortal Kombat: Conquest. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I'm adding Equilibrium to the list. It was a good film suffering from black sheep syndrome; Dimension Films barely released this one (only 200-300 theaters around the U.S.). I managed to see it twice before it left the theaters after 3 weeks.

It's about a dystopic, Orwellian future where feelings are a crime and punishable by death. Everyone is kept pleasantly drugged and productive members of society. Christian Bale stars as a Grammaton Cleric, the elite enforcers of this totalitarian regime. It's basically a coming-of-senses story. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif The martial arts and gunplay are excellent, fused into a new form called 'Gun Kata'. Very nice action scenes, especially considering the low budget the movie was under. Sean Bean (Boromir) was also in this movie; I almost didn't recognize him without the mucho hair. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Another castoff from Dimension Films was a film called 'Below'. A WWII U.S. sub picks up some survivors on the way home and comes under attack by destroyers; they're forced to go deeper, and in that depth, either something paranatural or their own minds start playing tricks on them...

Ah well, there's always DVD. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

zen

P.S. Please put "spoiler space" if endings of movies will be revealed, such as Star Trek Nemesis that I was going to see this weekend. Thank you.

[CNCRaymond]

Any one here ever see a movie named "Slaughter of the Inocents?"

Scott Glen film on par with Silence of the Lambs. Good movie.

STN (X) was an ok movie, but it should have been longer. The director should have spent more time developing the movie rather than the action.

Having the Enterprise set so dark was a real stupid thing to do. He should have played off the light and dark aspects of the two characters. I would have enjoyed seeing more at the beginning in regards to the reunion, and how in the hell they found B-4. We all knew from STNG Series that there were many more prototype androids, but nothing was ever said about what happned to them with the exception of Lore.

On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd rate TrekX at 6. I still think Insurrection was the best one so far.

[Ragnarok]

"I still think Insurrection was the best one so far."

You actually liked Insurrection? To me that was the worst Star Trek movie of all time. Well at least one of the worst.
I know people have their own opinion but I think you're the first Trek fan I've ever seen that actually liked that movie. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[CNCRaymond]

I liked it for many reasons. It was an up lifting movie, well directed, with high production standards. I enjoyed the bad guys, and even that weak assed battle they had.

But I liked it for a private reason.

[Perrin]

The problem that I had with Insurrection was:

If the plant's effects on health and aging extended into space why did they want to bother removing the natives? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif Just build some space stations in orbit for Pete's sake. That way you could just leave the natives on the planet.

[Kamog]

It's good every so often to go see a type of movie that you don't normally go see. Even if you expect that you're not going to like it, sometimes when you see it, it turns out to be not bad. Normally, I mostly see science fiction, action, and the occasional comedy. But today I saw Antwone Fisher. It's a good story.

[Cirvol]

A couple of movies not seen by many, but SHOULD be seen imho ;p (in no particular order)

1. the salton sea (val kilmer druggie+ more ;p) great flick, trust me
2. spriggan (anime-recent) good sci-fi anime story
3. ghost in the shell (anime-old) best anime of all time prolly
4. cowboy bebop (anime-series) a 28 part fun anime with a great story and better characters and the coolest music ;p
5. LOTR and TTT - peter jackson is god, nuff said (i know many of u have seen these but i couldnt leave em out)
6. the emperor and the assasin (good new-style kung fu like 'crouching tiger hidden dragon', with an even better story http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

there are more, i know this looks a little anime heavy ;p... but i figured you've all seen most of the 'hollywood' shiite already

[Kamog]

Originally posted by Cirvol:
3. ghost in the shell (anime-old) best anime of all time prolly<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah! Masamune Shirow's anime is really good! Lots of action, cybernetic technology, a pretty heroine, and a very intricate background for each story. Appleseed, Dominion Tank Police, and Orion are good, too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[klausD]

And dont forget "Princess Mononoke". Excellent anime similar in quality to Ghost in the shell. It was a big commercial success (at least in Japan)

klausD

[Kamog]

Just saw the movie, "Shanghai Knights". It is a sequel for "Shanghai Noon". It was good: lots of funny parts, and nice kung-fu fights! Lin, who is Chon Wang's (Jackie Chan) sister, is really pretty and a great fighter, too.

[DavidG]

Originally posted by Kamog:
I finally saw The Two Towers Last week. It was really good!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree. As long as you manage to stay awake for the first 2 hours. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif The Last hour is awsome!

[Askan Nightbringer]

I have to ressurect this thread coz I saw "Gangs of New York" the other night.
I put this as the least interesting and most boring movie I've seen in years. It felt like I paid to watch Martin Scorsese masturbate for a couple of hours.

Askan

[Kamog]

I saw "Daredevil" a few nights ago. It's an OK movie. Nothing special though...

I'm looking forward to X-Men II, the Matrix sequels, and Terminator 3... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[gregebowman]

Another anime that is worth watching is Metropolis. It's based on a manga (japanese for comic book) that's loosely based on the old silent movie from the 1920's. It kicks ***. I would highly recommend it. I would go so far as to say it at least equals Ghost In The Shell, if not surpasses it.

[ February 19, 2003, 16:01: Message edited by: gregebowman ]

[kalthalior]

Saw Daredevil Last night, not great, but still pretty good. Catch Me If You Can was probably the Last one I saw, and I enjoyed it much more than expected. TT met my expectations, but I still like the Fellowship better. Eagerly awating Matrix and X-Men sequels.

[Wardad]

I saw Gangs of New York and thought it was great.
They really captured some of period flavor.
The Tammany (HALL) Society really was that bad.
The politics and elections were really that corrupt.

The recuitment of Irish immigrants right off the boat was spot on.
"Sign here and your a citizen."
"Sign here and your enlisted."
"Now go serve your country, son."

[ February 19, 2003, 16:26: Message edited by: Wardad ]

[dogscoff]

Another anime that is worth watching is Metropolis. It's based on a manga (japanese for comic book) that's loosely based on the old silent movie from the 1920's. It kicks ***. I would highly recommend it. I would go so far as to say it at least equals Ghost In The Shell, if not surpasses it.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I have that on DVD. It is just... wierd. Good, but wierd. The most memorable bit is the big collapsing building bit at the end, all to some sad old love song... a really peculiar film. Well worth watching.

[Askan Nightbringer]

Can't wait for the Matrix sequels either.
One of my friends plays one of the Hugo Weaving doubles (Agent Smith). For the shoot they shaved him a receding hairline . It was most amusing but I'm still most jealous (if only I was taller I got have gotten the part).

Askan

[Askan Nightbringer]

Originally posted by Wardad:
I saw Gangs of New York and thought it was great.
They really captured some of period flavor.
The Tammany (HALL) Society really was that bad.
The politics and elections were really that corrupt.

The recuitment of Irish immigrants right off the boat was spot on.
"Sign here and your a citizen."
"Sign here and your enlisted."
"Now go serve your country, son."<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The early parts were good, its just near the end it came up really wishy washy, like Scorsese was trying to throw it lots of historical footnotes. Its like he had a enough stuff for a couple of interesting movies with well developed plots and characters but tried to roll it into one big movie that just came out flat.

Askan

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Cirvol:


there are more, i know this looks a little anime heavy ;p... but i figured you've all seen most of the 'hollywood' shiite already<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I love animes, especialy old school Japanesse animation. I stopped long ago caring about Hollywood movies. They are loaded with ****y political correctness and leftish crap. How can anybody believe that a T-800 Terminator would come into a biker bar and not kill even one of those guys? Mind you, this happened before that Edward Furlong kid told him that he cannot kill people. Just stupid. I bet T3 will not be any better. Arnie fighting a girl? Please.......

[Ruatha]

I'd like to recommend "Amelie from Montmarte".
A really good film that makes you kind of happy!

And the early Pedro Almodovar films where good to;
"Women on the verge of nervous breakdown" (Not sure of the English title) was really fun!

Another film that surprised me was "The Crying Game" (I think it was called that) about an british soldier that was kidnapped by the IRA, then killed and one of the IRA members who got to know him goes and seeks up the soldiers girlfriend, than things start to happen.
That was one of the few films that's surprised me.

"Saving Private Ryan" was a good film to, realistic.

As to Star Wars I think the Last one (Episode II) is the best, altough it can't beat the feeling I had when I saw the first one, was it in 1977?
I like the big scenes in Episode II, the mass Jedi fight and the huge troops movements.
The Aliens series is also good films I think.

[ February 21, 2003, 21:27: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Ruatha:
"Saving Private Ryan" was a good film to, realistic.

.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Realistic?
Yeah right, and I have a Abram M1A3 in my parking lot.....
Nothing realistic have EVER come out of Hollywood, as far as war films is concerned. They all degenerate into "anti-war" films with stupid Messages to make you fear war. Then the others that are not "anti-war" are just a bunch of cheap flicks with bad scripts from people that have never put one foot on a battlefield.
And even worst, books that are suppose to be "real memories" from war veterans end up tuned down to be politicaly correct and not upset the readers.......

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Aloofi:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cirvol:
[qb]

there are more, i know this looks a little anime They are loaded with ****y political correctness and leftish crap. How can anybody believe that a T-800 Terminator would come into a biker bar and not kill even one of those guys? Mind you, this happened before that Edward Furlong kid told him that he cannot kill people. Just stupid. I bet T3 will not be any better. Arnie fighting a girl? Please.......<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think that the Terminator was trying to keep a low profile that would not involve the police. A bar fight can be overlooked, but not a bar full of dead bodies. Remember, John Connor had already programmed the Terminator before sending it through time. I don't think he would have sent a killing machine back through time, especially if his ultimate goal was to save billions of lives.

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by Aloofi:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ruatha:
"Saving Private Ryan" was a good film to, realistic.

.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Realistic?
Yeah right, and I have a Abram M1A3 in my parking lot.....
Nothing realistic have EVER come out of Hollywood, as far as war films is concerned. They all degenerate into "anti-war" films with stupid Messages to make you fear war. Then the others that are not "anti-war" are just a bunch of cheap flicks with bad scripts from people that have never put one foot on a battlefield.
And even worst, books that are suppose to be "real memories" from war veterans end up tuned down to be politicaly correct and not upset the readers.......</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You have to put things into perspective.
It was alot more realistic than the movies before it.

Have you seen "Schindler's list"? Quite good and based on true persons and events. But still a bit fictionalized I think.
You can ofcourse make a movie of 13 people sitting in a tent for three hours while two stand post outside, realistic war movie? yes. Good movie? no.
(No I'm not talking about any war that involves USA)

[ February 21, 2003, 22:07: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[tesco samoa]

i saw I am Sam the other week... I really enjoyed it. Soundtrack was really good as well

[DavidG]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Aloofi:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cirvol:
[qb]

there are more, i know this looks a little anime They are loaded with ****y political correctness and leftish crap. How can anybody believe that a T-800 Terminator would come into a biker bar and not kill even one of those guys? Mind you, this happened before that Edward Furlong kid told him that he cannot kill people. Just stupid. I bet T3 will not be any better. Arnie fighting a girl? Please.......<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think that the Terminator was trying to keep a low profile that would not involve the police. A bar fight can be overlooked, but not a bar full of dead bodies. Remember, John Connor had already programmed the Terminator before sending it through time. I don't think he would have sent a killing machine back through time, especially if his ultimate goal was to save billions of lives.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">WTF?? There is someone out there that doesn't like the Terminator movies??! Say it isn't so!. that bar scene is one of the most amusing scenes hollywood has produced. If you want 'realisitic' I'd suggest you stay away from hollywood movies. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[raynor]

Did anyone else watch X-Men on Fox on Sunday? They showed a few scenes from the new movie. It looks like a SWAT team is invading the school. It looks pretty awesome. I can't wait for the movie.

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by DavidG:
If you want 'realisitic' I'd suggest you stay away from hollywood movies. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, that's why I play PC games instead of watching movies.
I've never been a president or an admiral, so since I can't compare I guess that's why SE4 appeals to me.

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by raynor:
Did anyone else watch X-Men on Fox on Sunday? They showed a few scenes from the new movie. It looks like a SWAT team is invading the school. It looks pretty awesome. I can't wait for the movie.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup, that is what happens. The trailer is out and with the Daredevil movie. It's also on their website.
This is going to be one sweeta$$ movie. Check out the full trailer and you'll see what I mean. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Wardad]

Originally posted by Aloofi:
... They all degenerate into "anti-war" films with stupid Messages to make you fear war. ...<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">While true enough, war really is something to be feared.

When I was a kid I found a Picture History book of WWI. It was gruesome even in black and white. Bodies laying in trenches, or piled up like cord wood 100 foot from the enemies lines. Blisters from gas covering face and tongue. Starving children with vacant faces and empty stomaches begging for scraps.

I did not need hollywood films for an anti-war message.

[ February 24, 2003, 17:22: Message edited by: Wardad ]

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Wardad:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Aloofi:
... They all degenerate into "anti-war" films with stupid Messages to make you fear war. ...<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">While true enough, war really is something to be feared.

When I was a kid I found a Picture History book of WWI. It was gruesome even in black and white. Bodies laying in trenches, or piled up like cord wood 100 foot from the enemies lines. Blisters from gas covering face and tongue. Starving children with vacant faces and empty stomaches begging for scraps.

I did not need hollywood films for an anti-war message.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All too true. Just looking at one picture of the Holocaust camps can make me feel the same way. And guess what? It's still happening. It may not be Jews this time, but it's still the same principal. Look over at what used to Yugoslavia. It's Serbs vs Muslims vs whoever else gets in the way. What used to be Russia is having similar problems. And don't forget Saddam Husseim gassing his own Kurds. But I think you're doing Hollywood some injustice. True, most of the crappy stuff that called "war" movies are inane anti-war stuff or something like it. But I have to disagree that Saving Private Ryan was that. I think you got the message that these soldiers fought, all too many died, for their beliefs. There wasn't any running off to Canada back in the 1940's. Even though there was a draft back then, once Pearl Harbor happened, most men volunteered to join the military. So don't discount all of HOllywood movies. As a matter of fact, if you want to see a non-American war movie that shows the horror of war, check out a movie called Stanlingrad. It's a German movie, and there's no wishy-washy Hollywood crap in it.

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Wardad:
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">While true enough, war really is something to be feared.

When I was a kid I found a Picture History book of WWI. It was gruesome even in black and white. Bodies laying in trenches, or piled up like cord wood 100 foot from the enemies lines. Blisters from gas covering face and tongue. Starving children with vacant faces and empty stomaches begging for scraps.

I did not need hollywood films for an anti-war message.[/QUOTE]

My dear, you are just another victim of anti-war propaganda. When I see the same pictures you saw, I don't feel "how bad war is" but "Look at what the enemy is doing to us".
There is a big diference in these two aproaches to a reality. And Hollywood is making a bunch of pussies out of us, while our enemies are raised in warrior societies chanting anti western slogans day and night.
War is not something good or bad, but I can't say the same of losing a war.
And technological superiority only go so far. They have found a way to shake our societies to the bottom, and that is targeting innocent civilians.

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
But I have to disagree that Saving Private Ryan was that. I think you got the message that these soldiers fought, all too many died, for their beliefs. There wasn't any running off to Canada back in the 1940's <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, Saving Private Ryan was one pure anti war propaganda.
Lessons from the movie:
1- Soldiers lives are disposable to their commaders.
2- If you are brave you die
3- If you take point you die
4- If you obey your commaders orders you die
5- If you save civilians you die
6- If you help your squad mates you die
7- If you are a coward you survive
8- If you hide you survive
9- Don't ever go to war.

All of these are lies. But the worst thing is that these anti war feelings are so deep in your mind, as you have been exposed to this since you were born, that it all seem perfectly real.
I'm sure there are zillion more little details in this movie, but I haven't seen it in quite a while.

[Stone Mill]

Saving Private Ryan was about contradictions, and that is exactly why it is excellent.

The main question posed is "Does a humane act in a horribly heinous environment of war still have value?"

In the end- a wonderful contradiction... Ryan is "Saved" by one humane act (recovery mission)and returned to his family.

However, Capt Miller's other humane act (releasing the German Soldier) comes back to destroy him...

[gregebowman]

I think that why you feel Ryan was an anti-war movie was that it was too realistic. Too much blood and guts. I remember growing up and watching all those old war movies made in the 50's and 60's, and you didn't see any blood and guts. You saw a guy get shot and fall down. So I think we weren't too conditioned to seeing a realist war movie, at least as a society. Now, Hollywood has no problem showing the blood and guts, and IMO, that's why some people are thinking it's an anti-war movie. No, it's showing war as it more or less is: ugly, terrifying and not something to worship.

[Atrocities]

Dare Devil = B movie with B acting, and just play BAD movie. Don't waste your time or your money.

I think that now a days, the critics are being bought off. This movie is evidance of that.

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Dare Devil = B movie with B acting, and just play BAD movie. Don't waste your time or your money.

I think that now a days, the critics are being bought off. This movie is evidance of that.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're one of the first people that I've heard rate this a bad movie. Everyone that I've talked to said it was a good movie. Not great, but good. I enjoyed it myself. One thing I don't like about it though is they took too many ideas from Spiderman. I thought I was watching Spiderman all over again at times.
The best part of Daredevil though was the previews for X-man 2. That is going to be one sweet movie.

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
I think that why you feel Ryan was an anti-war movie was that it was too realistic. Too much blood and guts.
No, it's showing war as it more or less is: ugly, terrifying and not something to worship.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Too realistic?
Since when showing blood and guts is realism?

That blood is there just to scare the hell out of you. Most people that go to war DON'T get killed, or wounded, or anything. In real battle you DON'T see what's going on 2 meters away from your position, but in movies you see EVERYTHING that's happening at the same time in the whole battlefield. And everything happen very FAST instead of very slow, as the movies try to tell you.

[Ragnarok]

My .02 cents worth.
Most people that go to war DON'T get killed, or wounded, or anything.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Then why are there so many memorial walls and things of that nature with names of ones who did get killed in battle?
I highly doubt any of us have been in battle to know if anyone gets wounded or not. So none of us can say for sure. But I am fairly certain people do get wounded. Whenever there is war, or battles, people are going to get hurt and killed. There's no doubt about that.

In real battle you DON'T see what's going on 2 meters away from your position, but in movies you see EVERYTHING that's happening at the same time in the whole battlefield.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If a movie focused only on a certain part of the battlefield and not see "EVERYTHING," then the movie would not be all that interesting. It could be if done right. But when you're trying to fit a long story in a hour and 45 minute space, you have to have a camara view of EVERYTHING around the battlefield.

And everything happen very FAST instead of very slow, as the movies try to tell you.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree with you here. But it all really depends on the battle situation, sometimes it happens slow, sometimes it happens fast. It all depends on what they are currently trying to do.

But anyway, that is just my opinions on the matter. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[gregebowman]

I can't imagine what being in a real battle might be like. During my time in the Air Force, we had exercises and such, but since I was always in a medical unit, we didn't too involved in the actual fighting part. The closest I came when I was in Korea, and they had frequent exercises, which meant I had to put on all of the chem gear. And that's no fun. I almost went to Persian Gulf I, but due to a matter of logistics, there wasn't enough room for about 30 people in my unit. Still, they went to a site just barely within Scud missile range and never saw any action.

[Kamog]

Have you seen the movie "Cradle 2 the Grave"? Is it any good? I'm thinking of possibly going to see it. I have seen a few earlier Jet Li movies, and they were OK, but not great... is this one the same sort of movie as the other ones?

Edit: By the way, why is this one called "Cradle 2"? What happened to "Cradle 1"? I don't remember there being a "Cradle 1", or did I just miss it?

[ March 12, 2003, 07:33: Message edited by: Kamog ]

[Ruatha]

gregebowman >
So you're into the med profession aswell.
I'm an ensign in the Swedish army (reserves).
Originally I was a medic in a rifle platoon but now that I'm a doctor I'm placed a bit further behind the lines.
Still we haven't had a war since 1814, unless you count UN missions. So I will hopefully never treat any gunwounded patients except the sedated pigs we practice on.
Still. I'm thinking of going on UN missions in about 10 years, when the kids gets older. But then I'll propably just have administrative functions as by the I'll hopefully be a major.(? English rank? - Major)

The interesting thing is that studies of the recent wars (1950->) shows that most incapicitated soldiers are suffering from psychic problems instead of physical wounds. Still. a war with no wounds and deaths is kind of a contradiction....
If the soldiers feel that they will be taken care of if they are wounded this degree of psychic problems drops rapidly though.

But yes, in all wars there are spilled guts, pneumothoraxes and missing limbs, etc.

As to movies -> still I promote " A crying Game", british film. And "Amelie from Montmarte", french film and "Women on the Verge of nervous brakedown", spanish film.

(Edit spell and movies + correction, se post above.)

[ March 13, 2003, 11:21: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[DirectorTsaarx]

Originally posted by Ruatha:
gregebowman >
So you're into the med profession aswell.
I'm an anselm(? English rank ? - Fänrik) in the Swedish army (reserves).
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think the English rank you're looking for is ensign - used by American Navy & Marines for lowest officer rank...

[Stone Mill]

Originally posted by Ruatha:
Amelie
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I really enjoyed this film. Took the 'ol lady to see it- a great date movie. I am still looking for my yard gnome, by the way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I am really enjoying foreign movies that are unconventional, as opposed to so many borish cookie-cutter US flicks that follow the same pattern.

My main beef is that actual drama and character development is nonexistent now that we have special effects. In action movies... Just make the explosions bigger! The pLastic main character always wins, no reason to care...

Can I tolerate another love story where the guy and girl start out as opposites but eventually end up happily ever after? Sheesh. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Back on point- I saw "Fraility" and this will shake you up a bit, I promise. It's about a father who goes on a "Holy" killing spree, and tries to involve his two sons. Done pretty well for a small budget.

[dogscoff]

Most people that go to war DON'T get killed, or wounded, or anything.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, that depends on the war, and what side you're on. Modern warfare, you might be right, but since we're talking about films you have to include any war a film could be made about... I don't have any figures but I bet there are plenty of armies that have gone to war and suffered >50% casualties. I know that losses were horrendously high in WWI for instance. i believe some of the British imperial campaigns were pretty grisly too (for the unfortunate conquerees http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif )

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by DirectorTsaarx:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ruatha:
gregebowman >
So you're into the med profession aswell.
I'm an anselm(? English rank ? - Fänrik) in the Swedish army (reserves).
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think the English rank you're looking for is ensign - used by American Navy & Marines for lowest officer rank...</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ok. Is that lowest officer or underofficer(?) Fänrik is here the lowest officer rank, Then beneath it you have the under-officers(? English word??) Sergeant, furir, korpral

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Ok, did a google search and found that it was the same: Ensign - Fänrik. Thanx. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Stone Mill > If you liked Amelie try any of Almodovars movies, especially "women on the verge of nervous brakedown" (Altough I'm not sure of the English title)

[ March 13, 2003, 11:25: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[Stone Mill]

Originally posted by Ruatha:
Stone Mill > If you liked Amelie try any of Almodovars movies, especially "women on the verge of nervous brakedown" (Altough I'm not sure of the English title)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My wife says "Thanks!"
Our next video rental is set. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Ruatha:
gregebowman >
So you're into the med profession aswell.
(Edit spell and movies + correction, se post above.)<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I was in a medical unit, but my actual job was as a Mental health Clinic Technician. What that entailed was mostly giving out phsych tests and interviewing people. Not too glamorous, and one reason why I decided to get out. I couldn't transfer to another profession, and I didn't really like my job. But it was interesting. I know much more about psychology now than I did before I joined the Air Force.

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by Stone Mill:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Originally posted by Ruatha:
Stone Mill > If you liked Amelie try any of Almodovars movies, especially "women on the verge of nervous brakedown" (Altough I'm not sure of the English title)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My wife says "Thanks!"
Our next video rental is set. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Altough.. it's not as romantic as Amelie it's funnier though.

[Desdinova]

finally got around to seeing shanghai knights. very funny and several jokes in reference to other movies or series. i enjoyed the fight scene in the market, set to singing in the rain. jackie chan starting to look old.

[Kamog]

I just saw the movie, "Cradle 2 the Grave". It was OK, just another typical Jet Li movie: a few good kung fu fights, some random action scenes, and a story that doesn't make complete sense. It didn't seem like a sequel even though there's a 2 in the title. Shanghai Knights was a lot better. In general, I like Jackie Chan's movies more than Jet Li's. The comedy in Jackie Chan's movies make them a lot more entertaining, even though Jet Li's kung fu seems to be better. Jackie Chan is getting old and his fight scenes aren't as intense as they used to be.

[DirectorTsaarx]

Originally posted by Kamog:
I just saw the movie, "Cradle 2 the Grave". It was OK, just another typical Jet Li movie: a few good kung fu fights, some random action scenes, and a story that doesn't make complete sense. It didn't seem like a sequel even though there's a 2 in the title.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Um, I think the number "2" is replacing the word "to", as in "Cradle TO the Grave"... In other words, the producers were making a lame attempt to be hip & happening by copying the type of slang used by hip-hop artists and "l33t hax0rs" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

If you already knew that, I apologize for explaining your joke http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[kalthalior]

One movie I didn't see in the theater but checked out on cable Last weekend was John Q w/ Denzel Washington. Pretty good for a drama flick, might even watch it again.

[gregebowman]

I saw Tears of the Sun this past weekend. It was pretty good, if you're into action flicks or like to see small units operating. It's a Bruce Willis flick, and I try to see all of his movies (at least the action flicks). I just wish he would get a role that would let him smile. Other than The Whold Nine Yards (and maybe The Kid, which I still haven't seen), I haven't seen him smile in a single film for the past 5 or 6 years. Come on, Demi couldn't have been that good, right?

[Kamog]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
I saw Tears of the Sun this past weekend. It was pretty good, if you're into action flicks or like to see small units operating. It's a Bruce Willis flick, and I try to see all of his movies (at least the action flicks). I just wish he would get a role that would let him smile. Other than The Whold Nine Yards (and maybe The Kid, which I still haven't seen), I haven't seen him smile in a single film for the past 5 or 6 years. Come on, Demi couldn't have been that good, right?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think you're right! Bruce Willis doesn't smile much. Hmm, yes, he did smile in The Whole Nine Yards, but I don't remember him smiling in Sixth Sense or Armageddon. Well, in those two movies, he had some unfortunate things happen to him, so I guess he had nothing to smile about. Speaking of Demi, haven't heard anything about her for a few years...

[tesco samoa]

Normally on a quiet friday night I enjoy watching a wife movie then a horror flick. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Don't know which one causes more horror some times but...

Well Last night I sat down and watched two fantastic movies... Bullitt and The Italian Job. I had not seen either of these movies for about 20 years.

All I got to say is Wow. I remember them been full of action. But I forgot what fantastic stories they have linking the action together.

I recommend both of these movies to everyone.

[ April 12, 2003, 18:53: Message edited by: tesco samoa ]

[Atrocities]

Steve McQeen's Bullitt or Bullet as in the movie with Tupac Shakur & Mickey Rourke?

I have seen Dreamcatcher lately and would not recommend it for anything but a $.99 rental.

The Core was surprisingly entertaining with one of the worst stories I have ever seen. But the characters worked well together and the action kept the movie going. I liked it.

Basic = Basic trash. Not worth renting even for $.99.

The Knock Around Guys was a nice Mob diVersion movie. I liked it. Good cast, ok story line.

Sniper II - Not a bad movie and worth the rental cost.

Red Dragon - I will be honest I was really apprehensive about seeing this movie following that dismal POS Hanibal flick done a few years back. Red Dragon is a remake of the movie Man Hunter starring William Peterson, (Now in CSI). Man Hunter was a good movie, and it did pre-quil SOL.

But I have to admit that I was very surprised by Red Dragon. It was a good movie and one that I will buy for my DVD Collection.

[tesco samoa]

just watched we were soldiers.

Enjoyed it. A little graphic. But a good movie.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

national lampoon's lethal weapon.
hot shots part duh. havn't seen one
what'd you expect? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ April 13, 2003, 06:43: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Ruatha]

Anyone seen Hero?
Is it good? Seems like good fotage from the trailers.

[Kamog]

Hero? I don't think it's released yet. Well, I guess it's out in China and Hong Kong but not anywhere else. That movie should be a good one, with lots of gravity-defying kung fu combat... with Jet Li and Donnie Yen, can't be bad!

Have you seen Bulletproof Monk yet? I'm thinking of seeing it sometime during the next week or so...

[Fyron]

That movie should be a good one, with lots of gravity-defying kung fu combat... with Jet Li and Donnie Yen, can't be bad!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That means it will be a very lame movie, actually. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[Cheeze]

Kamog, ever seen Tai Chi Master (or Twin Warriors)?? I think it is not only one of Jet Li's best films, but also one of the best kung fu movies ever!!

Donnie Yen was great in Wing Chun, and he put on a good show in that Last Highlander film. Although Adrian Paul looked like absolutely no match for him, no matter how they cut that fight scene.

Both of them in one film...that's going to rule!!

[narf poit chez BOOM]

how about a hardy boys mystery, done right? anyone else getting nogl-nogl that looking back wasn't it great feeling?

[Kamog]

I saw Bulletproof Monk. Not bad. Chow Yun-Fat is the Nameless Monk, and like all Chinese kung-fu guys, he can defy gravity. He's not really bulletproof, though. A couple of good fight scenes. He was way better in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. But I thought Iron Monkey was better than Crouching Tiger. Jet Li and Donnie Yen are better martial artists than Chow Yun-Fat... Nobody beats Bruce Lee, though!

[Longstreet]

Anyone watched Wild Geese previously or lately? My favorite Merc flick. Lots of small arms action. An oldie but a goody.

[zen.]

I'm like the most Hong Kong-crazed moviegoer I know. Often the stories are completely silly and over-the-top, but what they seem to capture well is energy; something which a lot of more polished films manage to overdirect out of them.

Some cool and surprisingly higher-budget films (all live action) I've seen of late are Avenging Fist (apparently originally based on Tekken, but they couldn't secure it) and Storm Riders, and I've been accumulating Jet Li movies when I can.

Wing Chun became my gf's favorite movie (score one for the guys! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) and I'm pretty partial to "women kicking ***" movies in general. That's why Fann Wong in Shanghai Knights and of course, Zhang Ziyi in CTHD were oh-so-sublime. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

zen

[Aloofi]

Guys, the Matrix is coming!!!

The Matrix Reloaded trailer (http://entimg.msn.com/i/highspeed.htm)

Edit:

The link's not working.

Click below for another link.

Link (http://entertainment.msn.com/Movies/Movie.aspx?m=252)

[ April 28, 2003, 18:24: Message edited by: Aloofi ]

[Erax]

Saw Dreamcatcher yesterday. If you're a Stephen King fan (my wife is), by all means go see it. If not... you will probably hate it.

It thought it was... interesting. Not great, perhaps not even good, but interesting.

For those of you who saw the movie, here's a part of my post-movie conversation with my wife (no big spoilers included):

Me: "Didn't Beaver have any powers ?"
My wife: "Well, he could drink whiskey without swallowing the toothpick." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Aloofi]

I didn't like Dreamcatcher, but the idea of representing the mind as a library was absolutely genious.

[Erax]

Stephen King worked as a library assistant for some years before he started to teach English (and write). Most of his stories have at least one library scene. Like I said, you have to be a King fan to like the movie.

[Kamog]

X-Men 2 is coming out this Friday! I'm definitely going to see this one. I've been wondering how Magneto escapes from his pLastic prison, and I can't wait to find out how he does it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif By the way, Patrick Stewart is perfect as Xavier, but I keep thinking of him as Captain Picard. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Aloofi]

Oh please, X-Men is overrated......

*hides his pre-paid tickets from Kamog*

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Aloofi]

Oh man, I almost forgot. Yesterday I watched a documentary called "Waco: Rules of Engagement".

You GOT to see it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Erax]

Originally posted by Kamog:
By the way, Patrick Stewart is perfect as Xavier, but I keep thinking of him as Captain Picard. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And I will have a hard time not thinking of Magneto as Gandalf. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[zen.]

I'm looking forward to three additional movies at the moment, besides the aforementioned ones:

The modern gothic Romeo & Juliet flick Underworld:
View Trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/underworld/)

What looks like a remake of the old S.W.A.T. series with Colin Farell, LL Cool J, Samuel L, and Michelle Rodriguez:
View Trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/columbia/swat/)

And of course, the good 'ole fashioned fun with Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle (with a pinch of Demi Moore thrown in for good measure):
View Trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/columbia/charliesangelsfullthrottle/)

I heard they showed the Animatrix short 'Final Flight of the Osiris' at the beginning of Dreamcatcher. It was tempting, since I was a fan of the animation in Final Fantasy, but I figured I was going to get the Animatrix DVD anyway. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

zen

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by zenbudo:

The modern gothic Romeo & Juliet flick Underworld:
View Trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/underworld/)

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Chicks with guns?
No, thanks, not interested.

[Aloofi]

This picture's better.

http://www.sonypictures.com/stellent/Groups/public/documents/image/pr1028057.jpg

http://a1872.g.akamai.net/7/1872/51/34f77fed67b1d3/www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/underworld/images/right2.jpg

[ April 29, 2003, 20:31: Message edited by: Aloofi ]

[Kamog]

X2: X-Men United was really good!

*** Warning: Spoiler ***
I thought that the "bad" mutants, Magneto and Mystique, were way more interesting and skilled than the "good" guys: Xavier, Jean Gray, Storm, Cyclops, Wolverine, etc. The good guys didn't do a whole lot, except Wolverine who had lots of action. Xavier did very little except get kidnapped and controlled. Mystique did all the work. Also, Magneto has the best powers... it was neat how he escaped from his pLastic prison. Magneto and Mystique make a very powerful team.

[FadingSuns]

Guys, "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" is coming! Check out the trailer! There hasn't been much press out about this one, but it looks awesome.

[Aloofi]

X-Men 2 is racist!!!

The attack of the SWAP teams on the mutant school is a copy from Waco, Texas. The motive used to order the attack is their possession of an stealth plane (guns in Waco).

Magneto to Pyro:
"You are a god between insects, don't let anyone tell you any diferent"

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Erax]

Well, I'd say X-Men 2 is about racism, yes. So was the comic series. that doesn't make it racist.

What the story (in the comics and the movies) does is present the reader/viewer with a choice: if you were likely to become a target of racism, would you react like Magneto... or like Xavier ?

[Aloofi]

You did see the smilie, didn't you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Erax]

Sorry, I thought the smilie was a part of your sig. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Erax:
Sorry, I thought the smilie was a part of your sig. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh come on. My post was written with awful sarcasm and an smilie. You were not supposed to know if I was being serious or not. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Yeah, yeah, I know. That is called "mild trolling". Sorry, couldn't contain myself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . That movie was too easy a target, and popular enough so somebody would eventually bite..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

.

[Erax]

No problem. I've been a borderline troll myself more than once.

[smitty]

I saw Holes and Lizzy McGuire with the kids. Major entertainment I tell ya.

[Kamog]

FIVE more days 'till MATRIX RELOADED
...can't wait... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[tesco samoa]

though this was movies you have seen http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

that picture down there underworld i think...

what is it THE CROW for 2003

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
though this was movies you have seen http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

that picture down there underworld i think...

what is it THE CROW for 2003<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, looks like it.
But that girl is Kate Beckinsale. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Well, gotta go.
See you guys tomorrow.

Hey, don't forget that tomorrow the Matrix gets reloaded..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[mac5732]

Just watched the Twin Towers part 2, most excellent, didn't get a chance to see it at the movies. Ebay selling the 2nd episode for $16.95 if anyone is interested.

Also re-watched the Charge of the Light Brigade and They Died with Their Boots on both with Erroyl Flynn, Now those were good movies back then.....

[Kamog]

I just came home from watching MATRIX RELOADED! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif The theater was packed. I had to buy my ticket ahead of time to get in on the opening night.

*** Warning Spoilers ***
What is going on in this movie? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif I'm going to have to see it another few times to understand what in the world is happening. They introduced so many weird characters with some mysterious purpose connected to the Matrix, and it's all so cryptic. They added too much weird stuff, and I must say I liked the first movie better.

*** Major spoiler warning ***
OK, so Neo is having nightmares about Trinity dying. He can fly around and he's freed a bunch of people from the Matrix, but doesn't know what he's supposed to do, being the ONE. Neo fights some upgraded Agents. Nice fight scene. The machines are drilling through the earth to Zion, and there's 250,000 sentinels on the way. So far so good. Then Morpheus makes a big speech to the people Zion telling them to not be afraid and so on. There's too much of this scene where the crowd of Zion people are screaming and dancing and waving their arms about. That went on for a long time. And Neo and Trinity sneak off to be together. Then there's the stuff with the Zion commander not liking Morpheus and so on. Things were slow during the Zion parts.

Then Neo goes to see the Oracle. This is when things start to get weird. Neo is tested by a guy named Serif or something, who is another special A.I. like the Oracle, and there's a really cool fight scene between Neo and Serif. Then Neo sees the Oracle, who tells Neo all sorts of cryptic stuff, and tells him to find someone called the "Keymaker". Then Neo fights with Agent Smith who somehow is now disconnected from the rest of the program and is now free from control, now working independently. Somehow he gained the ability to create tons of duplicates of himself (no explaination how this happened). A lot of fighting here, Neo against dozens of Agent Smiths. But the fights here had too much of a video-game feel to them, too much flying and moves so impossible that they looked way too unrealistic.

Then, later, Neo, Morpheus and Trinity meet this other guy who likes mixing French in his speech, who seems to know an awful lot about everybody and how the Matrix works, and he's got these twin white guys working for him, guys who can turn into non-solid form and fly and pass through solid objects and stuff. By now I'm getting confused trying to understand who all these new guys with special powers are. Anyway, the Keymaker turns out to be this little man who has a big collection of keys and he's constantly cutting new keys. He knows how to get into a back hallway for the Matrix, with thousands of doors that lead all over the world, a secret passage within the program. Apparently, Neo, being the ONE, is supposed to go through a special door that leads to the source of the Matrix or something, and then the war with the machines will be over.

Anyway, lots more fighting and car chases and explosions and shooting and so on. Finally, Neo goes through the special door and meets the "Architect", who is the A.I. who designed the Matrix. He says that the prophecy is a lie and that the ONE is not supposed to end the war, and that there where other Ones before Neo, and that Zion was destroyed five times before, and so on. By this time I am totally lost and I am not able to follow the complex explainations.

Anyway, back in the "real" world, outside the Matrix, Neo seems to have developed the power to control machines or something, but he goes into a coma. ... stay tuned for Matrix Revolutions for the conclusion! Huh? I'm going to have to see this movie again to figure out who all these weird guys are, who seem to be independent A.I.'s with different motives and purposes and so on, and how they all relate to the Matrix.

By the way, if you watch through all the credits at the end of the movie, they show a preview for Maxtrix Revolutions.

[Fyron]

Well the Matrix was a pretty lame and predictable movie to begin with, so any sequals probably aren't going to be any better. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Well the Matrix was a pretty lame and predictable movie to begin with, so any sequals probably aren't going to be any better. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Fyron, Fyron, how can you say something like this?
The Matrix is the best movie ever, not because of the XFs, or filmaking, or acting, but because it made us think.
It came out in the Last year of the Last century, and quietly it managed to put into the mainstream its warning against brainwashing and media manipulation, it questioned our very way of life, it blew the whistled in the very same industry to which it belongs to.
Because, Fyron, in the end we are nothing more than batteries, powering a corporate world from where we can't escape. We work for them, they pay us, and we give them back our paycheck with profits. We are raised to be good citizens, to pay our taxes, to fuel their economy consuming their goods, to use credit cards with money that we don't even have yet, to fuel them even faster.

We are slaves, Fyron, a new kind of slave that work for 8 hours a day and get 4 weeks of vacation. We are sent to colleges to become better slaves, more profitable slaves, and thus better paid, we can even change the urban plantation in which we work, we can even quit and look for a better paying plantation, but we can't escape our master, this system created to enslave us for ever and ever. There is no hope. We need a Neo. Or....

[Edit]

[ May 15, 2003, 16:26: Message edited by: Aloofi ]

[Unknown_Enemy]

The Matrix is the best movie ever, not because of the XFs, or filmaking, or acting, but because it made us think.
It came out in the Last year of the Last century, and quietly it managed to put into the mainstream its warning against brainwashing and media manipulation, it questioned our very way of life, it blew the whistled in the very same industry to which it belongs to. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Aloofi, stop everything you are doing and watch "1984". Once you've done it, read the book. Then read the book again.

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Unknown_Enemy:
Aloofi, stop everything you are doing and watch "1984". Once you've done it, read the book. Then read the book again.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Man, a lot of people have recomended me to watch "1984". I have never seen it, I guess it belong to another generation, but I will get the book. Is the book better than the movie, as usually is?

[Ruatha]

Only read the book, not as good as "Animal farm" though.

"All are created equal, but some are more equal than others..."

[tesco samoa]

Well the Matrix was a pretty lame and predictable movie to begin with, so any sequals probably aren't going to be any better.

OMG FRYON>..... Some one agrees with you about something on this forum http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

The movie was ok up to the middle... Then it was yea yea... cannot die... yea yea.... bad acting.... Ok lets end this...

Kind of like that Stargate movie with the Egyptian gods... Really good up to the point they released it was a scfi-movie and decided that things must go boom !

And all this time i thought I was the only one who did not like Matrix ( Actually I thought it ranked up there with Independence Day etc.... a good crack. But don't look too deep below the surface or you will be disappointed )

[Narrew]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Kind of like that Stargate movie with the Egyptian gods... Really good up to the point they released it was a scfi-movie and decided that things must go boom <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">*sobs* and here I am hooked on the series, I like Stargate as much as I did B5.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
OMG FRYON>..... Some one agrees with you about something on this forum http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ah!!! It's the end of the world! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Anyways.... the Matrix was not taken as what you claim it was by the general public Aloofi. In fact, you are the first person I have ever heard make such claims about the movie. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

uh, i like this system. it's a better system than most. and, while i think a lot of coorporations view there workers a bit like drone's, is that any worse, or better than the way a lot of worker's view there coorperation? change for the sake of change doesn't work. what and how would you replace it with?

[tesco samoa]

narf... wrong thread... i think that post should be in the iraq thread

[narf poit chez BOOM]

it's in responce to something said here.

[Unknown_Enemy]

Man, a lot of people have recomended me to watch "1984". I have never seen it, I guess it belong to another generation, but I will get the book. Is the book better than the movie, as usually is? <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, the book is much better, or I should say much deeper than the film. it is a bit like watching lord of the ring and reading the book. But 1984's music is really good.

[tesco samoa]

really you could cut and paste it there and no one would think it was out of context.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[atari_eric]

Originally posted by Aloofi:
We are slaves, Fyron, a new kind of slave that work for 8 hours a day and get 4 weeks of vacation.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Four weeks? FOUR WEEEKS?!?!?!!

RRRAAARRGGHH!

(AE grows large and green, and starts throwing around tanks and sturdy buildings)

"ATARI_HULK ONLY GET TWO WEEKS! RRRARGH!"

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[TerranC]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Well the Matrix was a pretty lame and predictable movie to begin with, so any sequals probably aren't going to be any better. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But it's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD entertainment http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Ragnarok]

I just got back from seeing Bruce Almighty. If you want to laugh this would be the movie to see this week...There were a couple parts I was laughing so hard I couldn't breathe, or my stomach was hurting too bad to breathe. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
It even inspired a sig change for me... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[CNCRaymond]

The Matrix reloaded. Well what can I say, it was an interesting movie with a lot of kung fo fighting. Long drawn out fighting. More fighting than I would have thought possible.

Fun movie though, but not what I would pay to see again out side of my own home on DVD.

[CNCRaymond]

Originally posted by atari_eric:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Aloofi:
We are slaves, Fyron, a new kind of slave that work for 8 hours a day and get 4 weeks of vacation.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Four weeks? FOUR WEEEKS?!?!?!!

RRRAAARRGGHH!

(AE grows large and green, and starts throwing around tanks and sturdy buildings)

"ATARI_HULK ONLY GET TWO WEEKS! RRRARGH!"

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can offer my depressing philosophy to this, but the Last time I did this I ruined the mood.

But what the hell, your right, you are all slaves, and allow me to tell you why.

You work at an unfulfilling job day after day, for just enough money to support your current needs, never earning enough to break free of the cycle that has become your mondain lives. When you think your ahead, it is but an illusion and one that is often more than not, short lived. You spend your lives stuck in this rut, oblivious to the fact that despite your best efforts, you may never escape it. And in the end, you will look back upon your life, and say to yourself 'gee, I wish I could have done more, played harder, lived life to its fullest, and spent more time with my family. Because in the end, that job that you have devoted your life to will can your *** without so much as a 'good job' leaving you to sit at you home, leased by for life, or as long as you can aford to pay the property tax, reflecting back upon your life and come to understand, that now, and only now in the twilight of it all, nothing really matters, and in a hundred years, all that you thought was important will have faded off into the dust leaving no trace of you or your accomplishments. In the end we all die, and on our journey to meet our faits, we all will learn things, and one can only hope that one of lessons of life will be that family matters, our children matter, our happyness matters, and being a slave to some coorperation for thirty or fourty years matters NOT. Live your life, not the life of a slave, but the life that you choose to live. And hopefuly in the end you can look back upon it all and know that you were not a slave to any one or anything. And then again we can dream can't we?

[tesco samoa]

i saw it as well.

The comment about swearing in french was funny.

And the chase was ummmmm..... fantastic..... as was the smith thing.

Funny I did not really like the first movie.... But I liked the second one.

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:


Funny I did not really like the first movie.... But I liked the second one.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hehe, I'm exactly the oposite, I didn't like the second one, but I love the first one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

What I didn't like in Matrix Reloaded:

1- Martial arts.
It was lame. Unlike in the first movie in which a very careful work was done, in this one there were some mistakes, it felt like opera, like choreography. Most hits were not concentrated at the contact point, tecnique was poor, especially in the lower train (legs position) while doing upper train hits. (you can see this in Neo's fight with the program protecting the Oracle). Neo's and Morpheous's styles were good looking, but failed to concentrate their hits. Most other styles were rather poor.

2-Computer Animation.
This one was the movie killer for me. Computer Generated characters were use in close up takes, showing openly that they were not real. The worst scene was the fight between Neo and Agent Smith. about half way into the scene Neo becomes a CG character, and it pushed me completely out of the movie, it was so awful that it felt like there was somebody else fighting in there! Also of notice is the scene of Neo flying. I wonder why they dare to use CG characters in close ups. That brakes completely with the principle of special effects of trying to make believe the audience that its real. On the other hand, the free way scene have a many CG cars and trucks, and with the exception of the 2 trucks that crash at the end, you can't tell which one is real and which one is not. This is because unanimated objects can be made very crediable with computers, but living things, especially humans, can not. They didn't even use photo mapping like in Lords of the Rings with the Gollum character. Basicly, the effectes were not bad, but they were poorly used, so the blame is completely on the Wachoski brothers, not the companies making the effects.

3- The message.
The anti-media, anti corporative message is still there, but it took me 2 times watching the movie to see it. Why? Because now their message is hidden below an extra layer of misiformation. Because now the Matrix is a major movie, part of the stablishment, a big buck maker, unlike the first one, that was a risky uber-indie filmed in Australia and an unexpected box office hit. Still, you can dig out the message by the names of characters, ships, the city, by some lines said mostly by supporting characters (unlike in the first one) and by many visual clues, which is actually an improvement from the first one, in which most info was spoken by the main characters.

.
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[tesco samoa]

Ying / Yang http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[zen.]

hm? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Reloaded gave a lot of bang for the buck; but somehow I ended up more interested in X2. Different stories/genres/whatever, perhaps, but for some reason there was more heart in X2. Did anyone notice after a while that the outlaw programs/Smith/whoever began emoting more than the humans did? Interesting contrast.

zen

[Rollo]

Matrix Reloaded..
*Rollo yawns.

I can't make up my mind whether it was more boring or silly. At any rate it was both.

The first one was groundbreaking. This one is just bad.

Rollo

[Narrew]

Well, its hard not to see Messages in movies these days. I did got a bit miff at the slam against Bush jr. There was a montague of evil pictures of our history, and right after a large picture of Hitler, there was a large one of Bush jr. It is one thing to disagree with someone, but it is quite another to compare Bush to Hitler (of course that is how I take it, and once again I am biased).

As someone else said, X2 was better.

Oh, that new Sean Connery movie looks great, the League of Extordanry Gentlemen. Is that a spin-off of something else, reminded me of the old Avengers.

[Katchoo]

Originally posted by Narrew:
Oh, that new Sean Connery movie looks great, the League of Extordanry Gentlemen. Is that a spin-off of something else, reminded me of the old Avengers.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's based on a comic book of the same name by Alan Moore (The Watchmen, Swamp Thing, to name a few).

Apparently they're already planning a sequal for it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[tesco samoa]

Well all this talk of blockbusters that bust...

I decided to watch a real movie.

So I popped Godfather 1 in the dvd.

3 hours later. I went Wow what a movie.

( IT is only the 3rd time I have seen it )

Tonight will be Part 2.

(which is my fav of the series )

I also noticed that Millers Crossing just came out on DVD so I will have to pick that one up.

It was a fantastic movie and will sit nicely with the Ganster collection.

[Aloofi]

I don't like ganster movies.
They glorify criminal behavior, stealing, greed, capitalism, anti-patriotism, individualism, and the killing of their own people.
Ganster movies are all about money, in the worst possible sense.
.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

*agrees with aloofi*

[CNCRaymond]

I have just seen Hollywood Homocide and I have to admit althought it is a slow kinda boring movie that seems to lack something, it was an ok movie that would make a great TV series.

[Kamog]

Do you think The Hulk is going to be good?

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by Kamog:
Do you think The Hulk is going to be good?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think it will be. I'll post here what I thought of it when I see it.

[CNCRaymond]

Hey it has Sam Elliot in it, it has got to be good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ June 18, 2003, 04:16: Message edited by: CNCRaymond ]

[Rojero]

i have yet to see matrix reloaded! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Ragnarok]

Just went and saw the Hulk yesterday afternoon.

Minor spoilers alert! (Nothing too big though)

It was a decent movie. It took too long to progress to the point where Bruce becomes the Hulk. One thing I didn't really care for is the use of split screens. I didn't mind the fact that they did this so much, it's just that it made it a little bit harder to follow when you're trying to see what's going on in 3 or 4 different parts of the screen. Sometimes they were just different angle shots of the same scene which wasn't bad but others were completely different scenes that you had to pay attention to in order to be able to follow the story line.

All in all I give it a 3 1/2 out of 5 stars. The acting from almost every person involved - most notably Jennifer Connelly, and Eric Bane - was done realitively well which made the movie more enjoyable. All to often you get movies like this with poor acting that ruins what would be a good movie.

[Kamog]

I saw Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle Last night.

It was OK. Some ridiculously impossible action scenes. Lots of scenes of the girls in skimpy outfits. Not much of a story. The girls are all giggling and being silly a lot, and every so often beat up bad guys with their martial arts. Matrix-like fight scenes with time freezing, jumping, flipping, and slow-motion bullets, etc. Cameron Diaz has a scary-looking smile that's too stretched out horizontally, that I don't find very attractive. Drew Barrymore I think is the cutest, although she's not very convincing in trying to be a bad tough girl. Lucy Liu, she seems to be smartest and most skilled of all of them. Demi Moore looks a lot younger than 40, and she is evil and dangerous. Anyway, don't see this movie if you're looking for a story, it's just a long sequence of girls laughing, dancing, and fighting, over and over.

[Mudshark]

How many people here plan to see Terminator 3. The previews look great. Plus the Last 2 are all time Favorites of mine

[Stone Mill]

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Just went and saw the Hulk yesterday afternoon.

Minor spoilers alert! (Nothing too big though)

It was a decent movie. It took too long to progress to the point where Bruce becomes the Hulk. One thing I didn't really care for is the use of split screens. I didn't mind the fact that they did this so much, it's just that it made it a little bit harder to follow when you're trying to see what's going on in 3 or 4 different parts of the screen. Sometimes they were just different angle shots of the same scene which wasn't bad but others were completely different scenes that you had to pay attention to in order to be able to follow the story line.

All in all I give it a 3 1/2 out of 5 stars. The acting from almost every person involved - most notably Jennifer Connelly, and Eric Bane - was done realitively well which made the movie more enjoyable. All to often you get movies like this with poor acting that ruins what would be a good movie.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Rags- I think that was the subtle comic book panel "stylized" integration into the movie. I actually kind of liked it, but of course I grew up with comic books. It was something different Ang Lee threw in.

My favorite part was the Stan Lee and Lou Ferigno cameo in the beginning of the movie (Security guards). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

I really did not like the Hulk. The cgi effect just didn't look real enough. I would have to agree with the review though, 3.5 our of 5.

[Rojero]

I am more of the type to check out new movies than to follow movies that portray something familiar.
Though I might see Terminator 3 I am looking forward to Pirates of the Carribean http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Kamog]

Originally posted by Mudshark:
How many people here plan to see Terminator 3. The previews look great. Plus the Last 2 are all time Favorites of mine<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I will definitely see Terminator 3. Can't wait to see Schwarzenegger back as the invincible cyborg... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[tesco samoa]

just rewatched canadian bacon

[Kamog]

I just came back from watching Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines.

It was good. Very good. As good as the Last two. I will definitely go see it again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

*** WARNING: SPOILERS ***
So... Judgment Day was not averted because of the events of T2. It was only delayed. Now, T-X has been sent back in time to kill John Conner and his future lieutenants, and another T-800 sent back to protect him. T-X is beautiful, very beautiful, I like her! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif She is also a very dangerous and efficient killing machine, more advanced than the T-1000, with new abilities. Lots of destruction, explosions, and wrecked cars and buildings, as T-X and T-800 battle each other. The scary thing is that the story of Skynet taking over computers, AI- controlled military drones, and the nuclear missiles sounds disturbingly plausible. The surprise ending was rather dark and not very happy... I wonder if they will make a T4?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

and i think i forgot...Mousehunt!
really weird and funny. a good movie. you could even cut some peices out and it would still be a good movie on what's left. see it.

[Kamog]

Tomb Raider II: The Cradle of Life

***Warning: Spoilers***
That Lara Croft character is so unrealistically skilled at everything. Is there anything that Lara Croft COULDN'T do super well? She's an expert in hand-to-hand combat and is good with all sorts of weapons. She's an excellent shot with guns. She can drive all sorts of vehicles. She can ride horses, do stunts with a motorcycle, do all sorts of acrobatics, skydive off skyscrapers, and know everything about archaelogy, speak 10 different Languages, have powerful friends in every country of the world, and be super smart at solving ancient archaelogical puzzles. In addition, she's also incredibly rich. For some reason, she has to go to all sorts of locations in different countries like Khazistan, China, Hong Kong, Kenya, Greece, etc. It's similar to a James Bond movie in which the main character is super good at absolutely everything and travels around from location to location throughout the movie.

The story doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The bad guy specializes in creating genetically engineered super-diseases, and selling them to rich criminals around the world. He doesn't care what these guys use the diseases for, or who dies from them; he just wants money. Well, there's an ancient artifact called "Pandora's Box" which, for some reason, contains a deadly, very contagious disease for which there is no possible cure. The bad guy's goal is to find the box, get the disease, and sell it to different criminal guys for $100 million dollars from each person. Apparently, these guys don't care if everybody in the world dies, including themselves! There's no explaination as to why this Pandora's box exists, or why there's a disease it in, or anything like that.

Anyway, Lara finds the magic orb that is the map to finding Pandora's box, but the bad guys take it away from her, and she has to go and get it back, and there's lots of fighting and shooting and stuff, and then finally when she gets the orb back and find out where the box is, she goes there, the bad guys also find out and go there, there's more fighting and stuff, and finally Lara gets the box, everybody else dies, and in the end she decides to leave the box in its secret hiding place.

Some fancy technology Lara has. She's in China taking digital images of the orb, which has marking on it, and she's talking to the computer guy back at her mansion in England, sending the images to him, and on the computer at the mansion, the guy instantly maps the pictures onto a rotation 3-D model of the sphere to decode it. By the way, it seems that there's only 3 people who live in the huge "Croft Manor". There's Lara, who's out traveling and adventuring most of the time, the very smart computer geek guy, and "super butler". He's "super butler" because apparently he single-handedly takes care of the entire mansion and grounds of the manor, cutting the grass, cleaning everything, looking after the whole place, anytime Lara isn't beating him up with a stick. I guess there's only 2 guys that live in the manor, because whoever works for Lara usually ends up getting killed by her enemies, or at least gets themselves into extreme danger.

Anyway, it was OK. I don't like Angelina Jolie that much; I don't find her attractive, even though most of the guys I talk to do think she's cute. Why does she have such big lips?

[Rollo]

I just came back from T3. Not very good IMO. It certainly didn't give that totally blown away feeling that T2 gave.

Of the movies that I recently saw I can only recommend Charlies Angles. Now that was just pure fun to watch.

Rollo

[tesco samoa]

just watched pirates .

Fun movie... Good for the whole family.

Johnny Dep what ever he plays. He plays it well

[Kamog]

The Medallion

It was pretty good. I try to see every Jackie Chan movie that comes out, and this one was better than the Tuxedo. But Shanghai Knights was better than this one.

*** Warning: Spoilers ***
This movie was unusual for a Jackie Chan movie in that it had supernatural stuff in it. The ancient magic medallion has the power to bring dead people back to life and make them immortal. Jackie's character is a Hong Kong police officer, and he drowns when the bad guys trap him in a shipping container and drop him in the ocean. But he is brought back to life by the medallion, and now he can jump really high, survive big falls, run really fast, get shot and still be OK, and so on. Well, the bad guy knows about the magic medallion, and he gets half of it, and gets the same powers, and of course they have to have a big fight in the end. Like all Jackie Chan movies, this one is not a serious movie. There's all sorts of rather silly stuff in there. Some of it's not very funny - like his incompetent partner - but there are lots of other stuff that is. Some nice fights, but they aren't as long or complex as they used to be in his older movies.
**** End of Spoilers ***

Has anybody seen Shaolin Soccer? I have no idea what it's about; I just saw the poster of the two kung-fu type people kicking a soccer ball. Is this movie any good?

[deccan]

Originally posted by Kamog:
Has anybody seen Shaolin Soccer? I have no idea what it's about; I just saw the poster of the two kung-fu type people kicking a soccer ball. Is this movie any good?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shaolin Soccer was *the* Hong Kong blockbuster of 2001. This is another Stephen Chow vehicle, and for those who don't know him, this means silly slapstick comedy.

The story is about a group of Shaolin disciples who find that their martial arts abillities are useless in the modern world. Then however, they get the idea of setting up a soccer team and use their martial arts abilities to kick everyone's ***.

So Stephen Chow uses his Iron Leg kungfu to kick the ball to stratospheric heights at ballistic missile speeds, the goalkeeper uses 'magic fingers" kungfu to cover the entire goal area simultaneously, the fatty with flying kungfu sails over the entire football pitch etc.

Some people hate Stephen Chow's stuff, some people love them. I happen to have a weakness for them myself, but I admit that this is probably around the lowest forms of entertainment there is. Also, unless you speak Cantonese, many of the gags will probably go right by your head.

[deccan]

Originally posted by Rollo:
I just came back from T3. Not very good IMO. It certainly didn't give that totally blown away feeling that T2 gave.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I just watch T3 myself. It looked very cheap in my opinion. The T1000 in T2 had a lot of very cool effects and scenes, and the cinematography in general was much, much better than T3. T3 also reuses too many gags and scenes from T2. A really disappointing movie that fails to live up to T2 in any way.

[tesco samoa]

well a weekend of football and movies.

My wifes football team won their league and playoffs:)

Movies for the weekend

House of 1000 corpes -- The Rob zombie horror flick.... It was ok... ( if you like horror movies then you will like it ) Jeepers Creepers was a little more moodier .

Signs - Liked it. Good theme and good acting. Very good mood settings.

Brotherhood of the Wolf. - That movie was great. The Last two movies that I have seen from France were fantastic. I wish i could listen fluent french... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif As I had to follow the subtitles ( i know a bit of french but it is french canadian not over the pond french )

And I re watched Amores Perros

[Kamog]

Matrix Revolutions

Last night was opening night for this movie. The theater was totally packed and there was a long long lineup. I could only make it in to the very late show, so by the time I got home it was almost 2 am. Didn't get much sleep. Anyway...

**** WARNING: SPOILERS ****
If anyone figures out what is going on in this movie, and what really went on in the previous movie, please explain! I was hoping that the mysterious stuff from Reloaded would be all cleared up in the third movie, but no, the questions are not answered. I still have no clue what is happening. I must say, the first Matrix movie was better than either of the two sequels.

OK, so the machines drill through the ground and finally make it to the Last human city of Zion deep in the earth. There's a big battle where the humans try to defend the city, but they're losing. In the matrix, Agent Smith has zillions of duplicates and is becoming really powerful. They don't really explain why Smith has this ability or why he's so special. Neo is in a sort of coma but his mind is in a strange reality which is not the matrix but not the real world either, and he's trapped there. The place looks like a train station and he can't leave without the cooperation of a A.I. guy named the Train Man or something like that, who is one of the bad guys, and Neo gets beaten up by him. Morpheous and Trinity visit the Oracle, who looks like a different person now, and she tells them to make a deal with the powerful French A.I. guy from the Last movie, to free Neo. So Morpheous and Trinity go and fight their way into the French guy's hideout and after a lot of making threats and pointing guns at each other, he agrees to free Neo. So Neo is able to get back into the real world. Then he decides to fly one of the ships to the Machine City to try to stop the war. The guy on the ship who was taken over by Agent Smith's mind gets up and kills one of the crew. So Neo and Trinity go on Niobe's ship, while everybody else (Morpheous, the captain and crew of the other ship, Niobe, Linx, and so on) are on the other ship, and they try to get back into Zion by flying through a narrow shaft that is very difficult to pilot through. So Niobe's flying the ship, and sentinels attack them, and to make a long story short, they get back to Zion and use the EMP pulse to kill a bunch of the machines that were attacking the city. But more machines attack and it is obvious that the humans are doomed. On Neo's ship, the guy who is possessed by Agent Smith attacks Trinity and Neo, and Neo manages to kill him but Neo's eyes are burned and he's blinded. However, for some reason he has developed a new power and he can see. On the way to the Machine City, the ship is attacked but Neo can blow up the sentinels with his mind, and they manage to get there, but Trinity is killed. They don't explain why Neo has all these new powers in the real world. In the Matrix, Agent Smith has absorbed the Oracle and he's now able to fly, just like Neo. In the Machine City, Neo makes a deal with the machines, saying that he will stop Agent Smith if the machines agree to stop the war with Zion. So Neo goes into the Matrix and there's a big battle between Smith and Neo. In the end, Neo seems to lose, and Smith absorbs Neo, but then all the Smiths explode. The machines stop attacking Zion and they leave. Neo is lying on the platform in the machine city, but it's not clear whether he's alive or dead. The people in Zion are all cheering and happy that they made it. Then in the Matrix, there's a brief conversation betwen the Architect and the Oracle. The End.

What???? There are so many unanswered questions.
Why is Neo able to destroy machines in the real world?
Why is Neo able to see when he's blind?
Was Zion really destroyed and rebuilt many times?
What's all this cryptic stuff about balancing the equation and unbalancing it, and the One being a manifestation of the imbalance or something like that?
Why is Agent Smith able to duplicate himself? What's so special about him?
Where there really many 'Ones' before Neo, and what happened to the previous Ones?
Why did Neo come back to life near the end of the first movie?
etc.

They said that the story of the Matrix is over and there will be no more sequels. The first movie was very good, but in the sequels they introduced way too much weird stuff...

[Baron Grazic]

You got home at 2am?
I hope you thought of all us Ozzies who watched the premier at 1am.
And when I say "us Ozzies" I mean that people who went to it, which I might have before my 'fatherhood' days.
I'll see it in about 2 weeks time and watch the conclusion of the triology, mind you, I already suppect where it is heading.

[Atrocities]

Matrix 3

SPOILER

WTF happend here? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif I actually like the movie despite its lame *** ...... You have to see it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

DO NOT READ PAST THIS POINT IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE, IT WILL RUIN IT FOR YOU.


This movie made a lot of sense even though I missed the first 15 minutes of it because of traffic. (oh well, thats what I get for buying my tick on Fandango.) All most all of the questions from the first two movies were answered. You just have to listen for them. Basically put, Neo is able to exsist in both the machine world (Matix) and the real world. He is a product of both and therefore can manipulate both. In the Matrix he can manipulate physics, in the real world he can control the machines, partly. Zion had indeed been destroyed many times and rebuilt, kinda like Vade is Lukes father. You just have to wait for it to be explained better in the next triliogy. Oh ya, there will be a sequal, that you can count on.

Well lets talk about the movie now. The movie explains that Neo has gained the ability to control the machines much like the programs in the matrix have gained the ability to reproduce. Neo begins to understand that the Matrix is as much a living breathing things now as any human. He is advised by the new Oricle to follow his path and that he already knows his path and the answers to his questions. The answer is he is the balancer in the unstable equation that is Agent Smith.

The Machines do indeed breech into Zion, and this leads to one of the best battle scense I have seen since the Original Star Wars. Very impressive and I look forward to seeing it agian.

Trinity dies and Neo sacarfices his freedom, and possibly his life to bring the war between the humans and the Machines to an end. Neo travels to the Machine city and confronts the Machine lord who agrees to end the war if Neo can defeat the rogue virus program that calls itself Agent Smith. Agent smith has infected everything in the Matrix including the Oricle and when Neo arrives to fight him he beats him. Neo is defeated and allows Smith to convert him into a likeness of himself as he had done with all of the other programs in the Matrix. This proved to be Smiths undoing as it balanced the matrix and cancled him out. The movie ends with the Machines pulling away from Zion, Neo being hauled away by the Machines, and The matrix restored with the agreement that any human that wishes to leave may.

Lame ending to an otherwise ok movie. For the Zion battle scenes, I recommend this movie be seen at the theater. Best time Matenee, but worth the $10.00 prime time showing as well.

Remember I also thought Pearl Harbor was ok as well. So take my recommendations with a grain of salt.

[ November 07, 2003, 05:53: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[tesco samoa]

MATRIX 3

SPOILER

DO NOT READ
5 minutes into the movie you make a decision. Do i try to figure it out or just watch the movie. I just watched the movie. What happened.
easy. the 7th reset happened.

[Atrocities]

SPOILER

Well put, the seventh reset. That would have been the better name for the movie. The Matrix - The Seventh Reset.

I think that they had no idea how to direct this monster they have created and opted to go for the money. You know with an ending like that there is going to be a sequal or three.

Follow the money - forget the story line, just follow the money.

[Taera]

MILD SPOILER

Whats Seventh Reset? Anyhow, i enjoyed the movie. One of the reasons was i had very low expectations of it, but it was okay. i didnt enjoy the cheesy cheesy dying scene (you know whats that), and the Last 20 minutes of the movie... the fighting was lame, and so was the end, but the movie was okay. A couple of cheap tricks and dead-end mysteries, but its okay. As i said, i liked the movie and i'd recommend it to everyone.

[Suicide Junkie]

The architecht guy in the 2nd movie belaboured that point.
There were 6 previous incarnations of The One, which would make Neo the 7th.
Mr Architect implied that all 6 went through with the reset (Zion gets wiped out, pick X-many people to repopulate and start from scratch)

[Mephisto]

*Spoiler ahead*
My problem with the film is that it did not make me care about the characters in the movie. You know that the fight between Neo and Smith will decide the outcome so where is the point of the long battle in Zion? Nothing that happens in Zion makes a difference and we know this from the very beginning of the film. Did the love between Trinity and Neo make any difference? Was the destruction of Smith all there is to Neo? How sad. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ November 09, 2003, 21:38: Message edited by: Mephisto ]

[Taera]

I agree mephisto, but put a SPOILER on your post. But still, I agree, this is what the movie was lacking - some identification with the characters, and feeling of importance of what is being done. Well said.

[Fyron]

A spoiler is kind of redundant... of course everything in here is a spoiler of some sort! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Katchoo]

Overall I liked Matrix: Revolutions, but here's the ending I was hoping for:

PARTIAL OBLIGATORY SPOILER ALERT! WHOOP! WHOOP! WHOOP! AROOOOOOGA!

Agent Smith is defeated and the Machines in the Real World begin to leave Zion as per their agreement with Neo. As Morpheus looks upon the Machines leaving and realizes the War is over; and as that kid (can't remember his name, the one whom Neo freed from the Matrix in one of the Animatrix Shorts) runs into the Temple and announces to everyone in Zion that the War is over, one of the Sentiles leaving Zion stops in mid-air and flips open it's radio antennae/dish to recieve a message. Suddenly all the Sentiles turn around and in one tidal wave they rush into Zion and into the Temple, killing every man, woman, and child in Zion.

Back in the Matrix, the Matrix begins to repair itself. The Architect walks up to the Oracle, who is sitting on a bench and looking none-too pleased. Looking at the Oracle, the Architect states coldly "now we start over", and the movie ends.

Had they done an ending like this, it would have left things just as open as the real ending did, but without the sappy ridding-into-the-sunset ending we did get.

But I still like the movie overall.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[Atrocities]

The bitter sad truth about this Matrix movie is that we all had high hope, low expectations. The frist Matrix movie was wonder to behold, the second a formula and the third the second part of the second.

We were given a glimps of something great, and like the matrix being changed, it was taken from us leaving only the sence of dajavo.

[Mephisto]

This site sums it up quite nicely IMHO and it is a fan site. Beware, MAJOR spoilers ahead:

http://www.matrix-explained.com/

[Captain Kwok]

Originally posted by Mephisto:
This site sums it up quite nicely IMHO and it is a fan site. Beware, MAJOR spoilers ahead:

http://www.matrix-explained.com/ <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Good link. This is almost exactly how I felt about the movie, or at least what prevented me from feeling satisfied about it.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

just saw t3. don't know what the complaints are about. sure, it was a gun-packed action-fest with a little philosophy on the side, but that's what 1 and 2 where. and the T-X might not have looked as dangerous as the T-101, but they don't have as much practice making women look dangerous. all in all, good action flick.

[Kamog]

I liked T3 mainly because T-X was really pretty. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Has anybody seen that Tom Cruise samurai movie, I forget the title. Is it any good?

[Atrocities]

The problems I saw with T-3 where mainly detail issues regarding shot angles and such. The T101 runs the T X down with a pickup truck and crashes here through a wall at the vet office, the car explodes for no reason, and the building he crashed her into was in the wrong spot given the fact that the girl ran out and to the side of her truck, directly infront of the vet clinic, yet the boy was in a cage in the very room that the T X was buired in after being ran through the wall by the T101.

Then there was the crane issue. The TX ran the T101 through a building whick conviently had exploding colums. That was very hockie.

To top it off, the father tells them to go through the super conductor thingy and it takes them a while to get to the plane, even with the TX following the, yet the T101 just happens to show up in the hanger, via a differant route, at the exact time as the two humans. I don't know.......

Then again, look at Tomb Raider 2, and all the plot details lost in that movie. Like what happend to her jet ski after she met up with the guys on the boat, and how can someone hold their breath and decompress after a long dive like that all the time riding on the back of a shark?

These days movies are going more for effect, less on plot. T3 was ok, but not great. Tomb Raider was ok, but not at all good.

Now for a good movie, see Pirates of the Carrabian. Goooood Movie.

And ya, the Tx was one very attractive peace of hardware. But not a girl you would take home to meet momma. (She just might off terminate your momma.)

[narf poit chez BOOM]

ok, but don't most action movie's have problems? and, as i just thought, in T3 they remembered to run out of amunition and reload.

[se5a]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Now for a good movie, see Pirates of the Carrabian. Goooood Movie.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">*agrees*

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
ok, but don't most action movie's have problems? and, as i just thought, in T3 they remembered to run out of amunition and reload. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ya, that is always a nice thing to see in a movie. Too bad they never show how a true gun on auto climbs. If you have ever shot one, and I have many, you would know that you don't shoot a gun and not get recoil, unless its a 22 or something. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Still, they did do a nice job on a lot of the movie, and I think it is worth a rental or dvd cost. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

Has any one seen master and commander yet? Or how about Missing?

[deccan]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
just saw t3. don't know what the complaints are about. sure, it was a gun-packed action-fest with a little philosophy on the side, but that's what 1 and 2 where. and the T-X might not have looked as dangerous as the T-101, but they don't have as much practice making women look dangerous. all in all, good action flick. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The main problem as I see it is that T2 broke new ground. The T-1000 was cool, deadly and the effects looked really, really good and smooth (remember the T-1000 being crystallized and smashed only to reform? remember it melding with the chequered floor? remember the cool moves it made in combat by changing its shape?). T3 looks like a throwback by comparison, with bad acting, cheap-looking effects and the much-touted TX was simply unconvincing and weak-seeming.

[gravey101]

Yes, saw Master and Commander Last week. I really liked it but not sure it will appeal to everyone's tastes. It is a period that I am particularly interested and it was very well done IMO. The action scenes were excellent, but if you are expecting 24 hours of action you will be dissapointeed. Probably 2/3 of the movie is slower, though none the less enjoyable _if_ you are interested in that period of history. Crowe and the rest of the cast do a fine job.

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by deccan:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
just saw t3. don't know what the complaints are about. sure, it was a gun-packed action-fest with a little philosophy on the side, but that's what 1 and 2 where. and the T-X might not have looked as dangerous as the T-101, but they don't have as much practice making women look dangerous. all in all, good action flick. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The main problem as I see it is that T2 broke new ground. The T-1000 was cool, deadly and the effects looked really, really good and smooth (remember the T-1000 being crystallized and smashed only to reform? remember it melding with the chequered floor? remember the cool moves it made in combat by changing its shape?). T3 looks like a throwback by comparison, with bad acting, cheap-looking effects and the much-touted TX was simply unconvincing and weak-seeming. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The main problem with T3 is that James Cameron had nothing to do with the film. I think Gale Anne Hurd got the rights to the Terminator franchise after she divorced James Cameron. so therefore, the storyline was probably like nothing Cameron would have come up with. After T2, I would have like them to explore the future and see how John Conner became the legend that made Skynet want to kill him in the past. The movie itself was ok. I liked the Terminatrix, but if you read the T2 trilogy of books by S.M. Stirling, there was a much better villainess in those books (and a much better storyline, IMO). Hopefully, if another sequel is made, Cameron will have more of an influence in its production.

[gregebowman]

Two more movies I saw lately were both child related. Saw Looney Tunes: Back in Action and Cat in the Hat. both were ok, and made me laugh, even as an adult. Of the two, though, Cat in the Hat was much better. To tell you the truth, I don't ever remember reading the book, so I don't know how faithful it was, but Mike Myers is still showing how versatile he is in his acting and the number of voices he can produce. Give it a try. It is pretty funny.

[Iansidious]

I agree Master and Commander was a good movie.It had its holes in the story but a good one none the less.If you like to read I'm enjoying the novel and recommend it.I think I'll read the series.Its been a while since I seen a good movie in the theater.X-men 2 and Finding Nemo are the first ones I saw this year. The next one is Return of the King http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif SWEET!

[narf poit chez BOOM]

ROTK

*drools*

[kalthalior]

Just wondering if anyone else saw Kill Bill. I thought it was pretty OK, some of the fight sequences were a little hard to believe (Uma out samauri-swords about 100 Japanese guys in a restaurant), but blood, gore, martial arts & hot women plus the standard Tarentino time-skip sequencing made it entertaining nonetheless.

[ December 03, 2003, 19:59: Message edited by: kalthalior ]

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by kalthalior:
Just wondering if anyone else saw Kill Bill. I thought it was pretty OK, some of the fight sequences were a little hard to believe (Uma out samauri-swords about 100 Japanese guys in a restaurant), but blood, gore, martial arts & hot women plus the standard Tarentino time-skip sequencing made it entertaining nonetheless. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Like most movies coming out this season, I'll probably only get to see them when they come out on DVD. The only movie I KNOW!!! I'm going to see when it comes out is Lord of teh Rings: The Return of the King. But I definitely will try to see Kill Bill. I've heard about the goree(?) sequences. It has made me curious, and I will try to go see it before it's too late.

[farstryder]

Cat In The Hat: very, very wacky movie. funny enough to sit through with your kids. they'll find it side-splittingly hilarious, no doubt. you'll love the delicious little tidbits of "grown-up stuff" that mr. myers throws your way. this one gets http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[General Woundwort]

Dec 17 - today is the day ROTK goes into wide release.

Dec 3 - the Last time anyone posted on this thread...

{winds up foot, aims...)

KER-BUMP!!!

That's better. Let the reviews begin!

[narf poit chez BOOM]

whoever made this thread, mark it spoily, for those of us who won't see it right away. it's going to be.

[Will]

this thread (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=010545)

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[gregebowman]

Saw LOTR:ROTK yesterday, and it's a great movie. Go see it if you can. Don't know if I'll be able to see any more films this year, unless we get a babysitter (aka grandma or my sister-in-law).

[Rollo]

I saw Return of the King Last night. I agree that it is a great movie. I am still awestruck and have to watch it at least a second time to fully appreciate it and voice any strong opinions about it.

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Rollo:
I saw Return of the King Last night. I agree that it is a great movie. I am still awestruck and have to watch it at least a second time to fully appreciate it and voice any strong opinions about it. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree. It's worth a second or third viewing. Unfortunately, my wife doesn't agree with that opinion. She doesn't comprehend why someone would pay to go see a movie more than once. Heck, I saw Empire Strikes Back 8 times during the summer of 1980, when I was 17 and had nothing else to do. I even saw Star Trek: The Motion Picture 5 times when it came out (not because it was a great movie, but it was STAR TREK!!! and I had been watching the reruns for years before that).

[PvK]

Kill Bill (part one) is a very well done intentionally-campy/darkly-humorous action flick, for those who like that sort of thing, and I do.

I liked Master & Commander too. I feel sorry for people who say it was slow, but perhaps they mean that it's not a constant action fest, which is true. I could quibble about some things, but I won't - I didn't think it was brilliant, but I thought it was well done and enjoyable. It had some very good ship battle scenes.

PvK

[Kamog]

I'll probably see Return of the King sometime by the end of the year. I'll have some days off after Christmas, so I'm thinking of going then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

ROTK was an excellent movie. In fact the entire trilogy was, correction, is why we have movies. Together they are epic.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

just saw lord of the rings. it was great.

[Atrocities]

Every once in a while you come acrossed a movie that you know is just going to be a good movie from the first frame. Movies like the Lord of The Rings, The fellowship of the Ring, Shawshank Redemptions, Silence of the Lambs, The Lion King, Star Wars, and so on.

If you have not seen Seabiscuit yet, I recommend it. Now its not the greatest movie ever, nor is it the best I have seen, but it is by far on of the most heart inspiring movies that I have seen. I wish my sister were alive to have seen this movie. A well done movie that is both enjoyable to watch as any I have seen in many years.

[Puke]

seabiscut was nowhere near as depressing as the true story was. the jockey ended up as a shoe shining drunk, and i think the horse went to the glue factory. the real tale was a true tear jerker.

I liked the LotR movies alot, but the book was alot better. they most people will complain about things they left out, which is not so bad for me. things are bound to be missing, and the extended edditions fixed alot of the problems i had with them. what i dont like, are the parts they hammed up and spend to long playing out. too many long homoerotic scenes, too many long slow-motion scenes of frodo being injured (in every movie - which was okay, because he was sort of a ***** in the books too).

ah well.. it would be boring if it was a perfect world. the previews for that wierd rocket-man style 1930s sci-fi movie look REALLY COOL, and the trailers for hellboy and the sequel to pitch black (the original was poop) look entertaining, too.

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Puke:
seabiscut was nowhere near as depressing as the true story was. the jockey ended up as a shoe shining drunk, and i think the horse went to the glue factory. the real tale was a true tear jerker.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Unfortunately, Atrocities, I read the book after I watched the movie, and I became very, very disappointed in the movie. I know there's some give and take in "historical" movies when it comes to the truth, but they really butchered all of the facts when they made this movie. And I can't believe the author had anything to do with the movie, but her name was in the credits. I know the movie was inspirational, and I felt good about it up to the point when I picked up the book. I'm just so bummed about it I'm not even thinking about buying the dvd.

And Puke, according to the book, Seabiscuit had a heart attack when he was about 14, which is about half the lifespan of a horse according to the book. Also, what rocketman type trailer have you seen? Sounds interesting, but I haven't seen anything like that. The only trailer I've seen that's got me stroked is the one for Troy. Can't wait to see that movie.

[Atrocities]

The horse died in 1947 and was buried on the Howard ranch in an undisclosed location. I don't know about the rider Red, but the story was more about the horse in my opinion than anything else. In his career Seabiscuit won over $400k in prize money and was ranked 25th for the century. That is not a bad accomplishment for the way the horse was raised. Our of 83 starts he wond 33 of them and just as many seconds.

I guess you have to be a horse lover to appreciate the animal and the spirit thay posess. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Atrocities]

and the sequel to pitch black (the original was poop) look entertaining, too.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't know about that Puke, everyone I know who saw the movie thought it was a great movie. In fact you are the first person in over two years to say its poop. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But hey, everyone has their tastes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I did not know that they were making a sequal. I don't know about sequals as they usually really muck up the pooch.

EDIT: Sorry Guys, wrong name.

[ December 31, 2003, 00:42: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I don't know about that Narf, everyone I know who saw the movie thought it was a great movie. In fact you are the first person in over two years to say its poop.

I did not know that they were making a sequal. I don't know about sequals as they usually really muck up the pooch.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">wasn't me. *points Atrocities head at Puke* you want to talk to him.

[Atrocities]

Sorry guys. Fixed

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">and the sequel to pitch black (the original was poop) look entertaining, too.<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't know about that Puke, everyone I know who saw the movie thought it was a great movie. In fact you are the first person in over two years to say its poop. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But hey, everyone has their tastes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I did not know that they were making a sequal. I don't know about sequals as they usually really muck up the pooch.

EDIT: Sorry Guys, wrong name. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">First of all, I'm probably the only one who still hasn't seen Pitch Black. I want to, especially now that Vin Diesel is such a big star, but just haven't gotten around to getting the dvd. I haven't heard anything about a sequel, and it probably wouldn't star Diesel, as he's probably making the sequel to XXX right now.

As far as sequels go, I'm with Atrocities. Most of them shouldn't have been made, or they should have gotten the original writer to do the script. I think the most disappointed sequel I've seen was Highlander 2. Talking about atrocities (sorry, Atrocities, but it's the only fitting word I can think of to describe that expreience). The only sequels I can think of that surpassed the original was Empire Strikes Back and Star Trek II.

[ December 31, 2003, 15:35: Message edited by: gregebowman ]

[Puke]

no I think Vin is in it - I hear the reason they couldn't get him for 2fast2furious (god, that looked bad) was that he was making this. it wasnt called Pitch Black 2, but had a different name. Looked more action and less horror, like Aliens 2 to Alien. Looked really cool, and even some alien sculpture stuff that looked alot like Giger's work.

The rocketman sytle movie (filmed all graney and technocolor) was Sky Captain and the Armies of the Future, or something like that. This guy in a WWII era fighter plane fighting swarms of ornithopters and giant robots that are attacking a sprawling new-york / metropolis type city. Looked very cool.

and yes, Troy looks like it will be a bLast.

Anyone seen Master and Commander? Any opinions?

[Kamog]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
The only sequels I can think of that surpassed the original was Empire Strikes Back and Star Trek II. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, Empire Strikes Back is my favorite out of the original 3 Star Wars movies.
And Wrath of Khan is definitely the best Star Trek movie.

I also like Terminator 2 better than the first movie.
Shanghai Knights was better than Shanghai Noon.

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Kamog:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by gregebowman:
The only sequels I can think of that surpassed the original was Empire Strikes Back and Star Trek II. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, Empire Strikes Back is my favorite out of the original 3 Star Wars movies.
And Wrath of Khan is definitely the best Star Trek movie.

I also like Terminator 2 better than the first movie.
Shanghai Knights was better than Shanghai Noon. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have to disagree on those two statements. I still think T1 was the best of the films. It had a solid story, and Cameron didn't need to have a huge special effects budget to tell the tale. I think T2 went way overboard in the special effects to the detrement of the storyline. Also, Shanghai Knights, although funny, didnt' really tickle my funny bone like Shanghai Noon did.

[Geckomlis]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Kamog:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by gregebowman:
The only sequels I can think of that surpassed the original was Empire Strikes Back and Star Trek II. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, Empire Strikes Back is my favorite out of the original 3 Star Wars movies.
And Wrath of Khan is definitely the best Star Trek movie.

I also like Terminator 2 better than the first movie.
Shanghai Knights was better than Shanghai Noon. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have to disagree on those two statements. I still think T1 was the best of the films. It had a solid story, and Cameron didn't need to have a huge special effects budget to tell the tale. I think T2 went way overboard in the special effects to the detrement of the storyline. Also, Shanghai Knights, although funny, didnt' really tickle my funny bone like Shanghai Noon did. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sequels: I really liked Aliens. Still looks good after all of these years, especially in the widescreen director's cut. Agree that T1 was a better story.

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Puke:
no I think Vin is in it - I hear the reason they couldn't get him for 2fast2furious (god, that looked bad) was that he was making this. it wasnt called Pitch Black 2, but had a different name. Looked more action and less horror, like Aliens 2 to Alien. Looked really cool, and even some alien sculpture stuff that looked alot like Giger's work.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think the new Vin D. movie your talking about is not Pitch Black 2, as I have never heard of this movie, but rather some movie called the Cronicals of *** I foreget what.

And yes, it did look very interesting.

[Atrocities]

I stand corrected.

Pitch Black 2: The Chronicles of Riddick (http://www.killermovies.com/r/riddick/)

[Narratio]

My Xmas gift pack arrived today and it contained some 40 DVD's (God bless the family). Included in it was "Bride of Frankenstien" (the first sequel to be better than the original) and "Bride of Reanimater" (Geof Coombs... what a ham! Gotta love him) and the "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" (Damn them all, go back to the comic!).

Now if only they'd sent me some popcorn!

[Atrocities]

Narratio, have you always lived in Thailand or are you just there on work?

What is it like there? Good food, nice scenery, lots to do?

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I stand corrected.

Pitch Black 2: The Chronicles of Riddick (http://www.killermovies.com/r/riddick/) <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I saw the trailer recently, but I don't remember there being the title as Pitch Black 2. All that was of the title was The Chronicles of Riddick. Now, I still haven't seen Pitch Black, so if there was some sort of visual reference to that movie, I missed it. Still, it looked it would be a great movie.

[Atrocities]

S.W.A.T. Someone should have swatted this movie when it came out. What a complete waste of two hours of my life. I should sue the producers of this movie for my used up time.

No decernable plot, no purpose, just lame arsed hacked together crap.

I am to young to remember much about the TV series, but what I do recall, is a guy on top of a huge holding tank with a rifle not that that means much.

This movie is simply not good.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

thing is, even if they make a bad movie, people will still go see it because the bad reviews havn't had time to get out yet.

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
S.W.A.T. Someone should have swatted this movie when it came out. What a complete waste of two hours of my life. I should sue the producers of this movie for my used up time.

No decernable plot, no purpose, just lame arsed hacked together crap.

I am to young to remember much about the TV series, but what I do recall, is a guy on top of a huge holding tank with a rifle not that that means much.

This movie is simply not good. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Unfortunately, I am old enough to remember the tv show. I think I was around 13-14 years old. Haven't seen the movie, though. Sounds like I might want to wait until it comes on HBO. It's a good thing I waited for National Security. Saw that over the holidays, and I'm glad I didn't spend any money to see it or buy the dvd. Talk about a waste of my time.

[Atrocities]

Ya it is a good "free" movie to watch. Save your money and watch it on TV. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[David E. Gervais]

I'm going to see LotR:RotK today. Yeah! I'm sure I won't be dissapointed.

I'll let you all know what I think tomorow.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[DavidG]

Originally posted by David E. Gervais:
I'm going to see LotR:RotK today. Yeah! I'm sure I won't be dissapointed.

I'll let you all know what I think tomorow.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well? Today is now tomorow.

I just saw this movie and it was good. However anyone who doesn't think the Last 15 minutes sucks and is totally useless obviously read the book. (at least that is what I assume) I'm assuming that maybe in the book these scenes had a bit more to them and maybe meant something. The way they were in the movie is was just a bunch of useless crap.

Without giving anything away I'll just say that once you discover the fate of Frodo the movie is over. who cares what happens after that.

[Puke]

yeah, i cant stand those darn book reading people who ruin my movie going experience. they either complain because a perfectly good movie ruined their favorite book, or they get all high and mighty about some lousy movie is all great and meaningfull because off odd references to important parts that were never shown.

I mean, if it wasnt good enough to be in the film, how good can it be? Progress man, progress. Now that we have moving pictures, we should burn the libraries so these holier-than-thou pricks wont ruin our time at the theatre with their incesant *****ing.

[Fyron]

Umm... there are a lot of things that are great in a book, but do not translate well to the movie screen at all. And then there are a lot of things that are good in a movie, but don't translate well to a book.

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Puke:
yeah, i cant stand those darn book reading people who ruin my movie going experience. they either complain because a perfectly good movie ruined their favorite book, or they get all high and mighty about some lousy movie is all great and meaningfull because off odd references to important parts that were never shown.

I mean, if it wasnt good enough to be in the film, how good can it be? Progress man, progress. Now that we have moving pictures, we should burn the libraries so these holier-than-thou pricks wont ruin our time at the theatre with their incesant *****ing. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I read the book Stargate before I ever knew it was being made into a movie. The movie was slightly differant than that book, better in many ways, but had far less depth than the book had. Still, I enjoyed the book and the movie.

I read the book Sphere long before I ever saw the movie. The book was brillant, the movie sucked *** horribly. Too short, missed many keep points, and generally was a lack luster production trying to skim through to the big bucks because of the all star cast who had no fricking clue about the hack job the movie was doing to the book. Even the writer Micheal Criton felt unsatisfied by the way the producer and director chose to make his film. They took good point out of the book, but failed to back them up with the other key points. The movie was way to short, and could have been better.
However, after seeing the movie again recently I must say that it was an enjoyable short movie.

I learned my lesson not to read the books before seeing the movies. My bad.

[Atrocities]

Ok I have to know.

How does the book end? Screw the movie, I want to know the real ending.

Secondly, doesn't frodo fight a dragon toward the end and not a spider???

No I will not read the books. I am to poor to buy them, and my eye sight has already deteriorated to the point that I am typing this without being able to read it.

Modderator Note:
Puke, although I found your comments funny and understood the nature for which they were intended, others might not. Please becareful. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ January 05, 2004, 08:41: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Secondly, doesn't frodo fight a dragon toward the end and not a spider???
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">that's in the hobbit.

No I will not read the books. I am to poor to buy them, and my eye sight has already deteriorated to the point that I am typing this without being able to read it.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">ouch. how do you read the Posts?

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">
Secondly, doesn't frodo fight a dragon toward the end and not a spider???
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">that's in the hobbit.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And it's not Frodo, it's Bilbo. And he doesn't really fight the dragon, the men of the lake town do... Oh never mind. Read the book. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif Audio books are good I hear. But I sympathize with your condition. I can't imagine what I'd do if I lost my eyesight. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ January 05, 2004, 17:13: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Umm... there are a lot of things that are great in a book, but do not translate well to the movie screen at all. And then there are a lot of things that are good in a movie, but don't translate well to a book. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hence, that's why all of Stephen King movies suck, because the characterization and the tension just don't translate well into movies, especially when you get some hack screenwriter who puts his interpretation into what he thinks would be a better movie.

[David E. Gervais]

Well, it's now the day after tomorrow, but the shock and awe factor of the movie forced me to spend time recouping. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Very good movie, a bit long at 3 hours and 15 minutes but very good indeed. I think the Two Towers is the high point of the trilogy. I now will wait for the three films to come to DVD in a full set with lots of behind the scenes stuff.

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Growltigger]

Dunno how factually correct this is, but I was told that the extended DVD of Return of the King would be 6 hours long.

Hope it is. Great movie but for a Tolkienista like myself, a lot was missed out that I would like to have seen.

I have seen the extended Two Towers, and IMHO, it is a much better movie, that fills up a lot of gaps and just "watches" better

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">
Secondly, doesn't frodo fight a dragon toward the end and not a spider???
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">that's in the hobbit.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And it's not Frodo, it's Bilbo. And he doesn't really fight the dragon, the men of the lake town do... Oh never mind. Read the book. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif Audio books are good I hear. But I sympathize with your condition. I can't imagine what I'd do if I lost my eyesight. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have glasses that help me read, but most of the time my vission is rather blurry. I used to spend a lot more time on the PC than I do now.

Its not that I don't want to read the books Geo, its that I know once I start my mind will cloud up and a head acke will come. Think of it like this, You have to read a 1000 page book about soil composission while sufforing from the worst hang over of your life.

I used to love to read, but any more its become problematic for me.

Hell I used to love to write, but even that seems to elude my interest now. And from the lack of story Posts I can see other have the same alament when it comes to writing as of late. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But audio books are good. Very good.

And thanks for the info on the dragon thing. I was rather confused.

[Atrocities]

SPOILER DO NOT READ>

Riddic - What can I say but WOW. Pure Science Fiction mixed in with a lot of interesting but not very developed religious under tones.

I think if they would have had another half hour the moview could have become far more than what it is.

Great costumes, action, acting, and interest. Worth the price of admittion = yes and no. See it on the big screen but see it on the cheap.

[Captain Kwok]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
Hence, that's why all of Stephen King movies suck, because the characterization and the tension just don't translate well into movies, especially when you get some hack screenwriter who puts his interpretation into what he thinks would be a better movie. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I wouldn't say that. There have been a handful of Stephen King novels/stories that have made great movies like Shawshank Redemption, Green Mile, Stand By Me, and the Shining.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Uh-oh.

All these old threads...

One of them might start saying 'BRAINS!' http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Maybe that should be 'WORDS!'

[ June 16, 2004, 01:33: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Captain Kwok:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by gregebowman:
Hence, that's why all of Stephen King movies suck, because the characterization and the tension just don't translate well into movies, especially when you get some hack screenwriter who puts his interpretation into what he thinks would be a better movie. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I wouldn't say that. There have been a handful of Stephen King novels/stories that have made great movies like Shawshank Redemption, Green Mile, Stand By Me, and the Shining. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The Shining? I hope you mean the mini-series, and not that p.o.s. movie that Kubrick came up with. That wasn't Stephen King. But as far as the rest of your list, you're right. The best adaptation of one of his stories was The Langoliers. That almost went word by word, and it still was a good show.

[ June 16, 2004, 20:18: Message edited by: gregebowman ]

[gregebowman]

I don't know if I should admit this or not, but I went and saw Garfield this weekend. It was a lot better than I expected it to be. Not exactly an Oscar winner, but at least it wasn't like the old cartoon that came out in the 80's. If you have kids, go take them to this movie.

[tesco samoa]

i would keep that to yourself http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
I don't know if I should admit this or not, but I went and saw Garfield this weekend. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I saw this Last weekend. The only reason I think it is good is because I grew up to Garfield. If you do not like Garfield the cartoon and do not understand the way the show was, you will absolutely hate this movie. It is not great but still good if you're a fan. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by gregebowman:
I don't know if I should admit this or not, but I went and saw Garfield this weekend. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I saw this Last weekend. The only reason I think it is good is because I grew up to Garfield. If you do not like Garfield the cartoon and do not understand the way the show was, you will absolutely hate this movie. It is not great but still good if you're a fan. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I was already in my 20's when Garfield the cartoon came out, so I didn't really form an attachment to that show. I thought it was kind of juvenile, as it was probably meant to be anyway. In the past couple of years, I've seen it again, and it didn't change my opinion of the cartoon any. I'll stick to the comics. I'm just glad the movie was much better than the cartoon.

[Iansidious]

Today, my family made a Last minute choice to see a movie. All voted for I, Robot. To be honest I didn't want to see it. I did see that a Disney documentary called "America's Heart and Soul" was playing in the art house. A very nice documentary about different people of different background's. Many people are interviewed. Country farmer's, an aspiring rock band, all the way to a blind mountain climber who conquered Mt.Everest. And the touching story of a disabled man who's father pushes his wheel chair in a marathon. In the end BIG THUMBS UP! I think the film is playing in 98 cities right now but if you can see it take your family. Because I was the only soul in the room(I didn't do anything that bad all alone http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ). A good touching an inpiring film.

[Kamog]

I saw "I, Robot" couple of nights ago. It was pretty good.

*** WARNING: SPOILER !! ****
I thought that the story would have been much more interesting if Will Smith turned out to be a robot. When his arm gets injured, we're all thinking , wow, he's a robot! He's a human-looking robot with emotions, isn't that a interesting twist in the story? So in my mind I'm coming up with theories, like: is he an advanced prototype built secretly by the scientist who died? Is he a robot from the future? But nah, he's not really a robot. By the way, those were cool-looking cars from 2035...
*** End of Spoiler ***

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Kamog:
I saw "I, Robot" couple of nights ago. It was pretty good.

*** WARNING: SPOILER !! ****
I thought that the story would have been much more interesting if Will Smith turned out to be a robot. When his arm gets injured, we're all thinking , wow, he's a robot! He's a human-looking robot with emotions, isn't that a interesting twist in the story? So in my mind I'm coming up with theories, like: is he an advanced prototype built secretly by the scientist who died? Is he a robot from the future? But nah, he's not really a robot. By the way, those were cool-looking cars from 2035...
*** End of Spoiler *** <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That story's already been done. It's called Blade Runner. Spoiler alert for those who don't know. In an interview a couple of years ago, Ridley (it was Ridley, right?) Scott admitted that Decker was a replicant. The book didn't have him as one, but Scott made him one.

Also, although I posted this in another post, I thought Spiderman 2 suprassed The Empire Strikes Back as the ultimate example of a great sequel. Some complain about the special effects, but as far as the storyline goes, it was superb. Too bad Sam Raimi wasn't asked to direct the Star Wars prequels. They might have been more interesting and enjoyable to watch.

[tesco samoa]

i just saw i robot.

i liked it as well.

[Narrew]

Was hott here in the Pacific Northwest so I went to see I-Robot, and being a real Sci-fi fan (book reading mainly) I was prepared to be disappointed (especially since I did not get the matinee price).

Well, I'll be damned, it was well written ect, true NOT the same as the book I-Robot, and I do miss R. Daniel, but as someone said, it was a good Robot movie that Asamov COULD have written.

Was nice to be pleasantly surprised!

[Randallw]

I also have just seen I, Robot. Entertaining enough. I can't remember ever reading the books but I once saw a summary of the world history so knew how the 3 laws end up. Practically knew from the beginning what would happen. A case of meeting a new character and instantly guessing the whole plot. ALso I disagreed with the detectives reason for hating robots.The cause seemed entirely logical to me.

[chainmailgirl]

Evening all,

Signs: There were lengthy periods of no dialog which were just creepy. I thought the interesting thing is that Signs is not about aliens invading the Earth, it's about why things are the way they are.

Return of the King: I love it, but this movie is loooooonnnnngggg. I watched an hour, went to the grocery store for an hour while it was still playing, came home and watched for another hour and a half. :-)

Anyone ever seen Hysterical? Old comedy/horror spoof. The name says it all.

-Cal

[gregebowman]

Didn't see it in the theaters, but recently bought and watched the dvd of Butterfly Effect. Great movie. And what a suprise ending. If you haven't see it, I encourage you to do so.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

'So I married an axe murderer' is a classic, in my opinion. Note: Not horror, despite the title.

I like the coffee cup opening scene, for some reason. Adds something to the movie. Not sure what.

[Suicide Junkie]

I saw Unbreakable on TV recently...
a lot better than I was expecting beforehand. Maybe I'm just cynical about TV.

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
I saw Unbreakable on TV recently...<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I thought that was a good movie when I saw it back in the theatres. Wasn't that supposed to be the first of 3 movies? It ended in such a way to lead to a second part...

[Suicide Junkie]

In the real world, Mr glass isn't going to break out of prison and bug the hero...

And the FBI would just track him down if he did... he'd be pretty high on the wanted list, after all.

I thought the ending was pretty solid.

[gregebowman]

I liked Unbreakable. It was the best of the 3 movies so far IMO (Sixth Sense and Signs being the other 2). As much as I want to see his upcoming The Village, I'll probably only see it when it comes out on dvd. I hope to see some movies over the Labor Day weekend; that's when my wife goes to a family reunion in another part of the state. I usually stay behind so I can work my part-time job. If she goes this year, then I plan on seeing quite a few movies. I just hope some of the ones I want to see are still around by then.

[rdouglass]

Don't know if they've already been posted but my two best movies I've seen recently would be Phone Booth and Runaway Jury. Not mainstream but definitely worth the rental IMO.

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by rdouglass:
Don't know if they've already been posted but my two best movies I've seen recently would be Phone Booth and Runaway Jury. Not mainstream but definitely worth the rental IMO. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Seen Phone Booth. I thought it was pretty good. Fortunately, my cell-phone bill doesn't have an itemized list of calls made, so if I were contemplating about getting some extra on the side, I wouldn't have to go to a phone booth.

As far as Runaway Jury, haven't seen it yet. Loved teh book. I wander how much different the two are. Will probably wait until I see it on HBO to see it.

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by gregebowman:

As far as Runaway Jury, haven't seen it yet. Loved teh book. I wander how much different the two are. Will probably wait until I see it on HBO to see it. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I never read the book but the movie is just plain awesome. The twists in it were done perfectly IMHO. I highly recommend this movie to all.

[Renegade 13]

A couple good movies I've seen recently: Pearl Harbor, and Payback. Payback is a little older (1999), and has quite a bit of violence and language, but the plot and humor was really good I thought. Everybody knows already what Pearl Harbor is about.

[Kamog]

I saw Hero.

A good sword-fighting action movie set in ancient China, in a similar style to movies like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and Iron Monkey. Jet Li is an expert swordsman, with superhuman speed and accuracy. Some great gravity-defying fight scenes. Donnie Yen and Zhang Ziyi are in it too.

This movie is not out in theaters here in Canada yet. I watched the Chinese DVD with English subtitles.

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Renegade 13:
A couple good movies I've seen recently: Pearl Harbor, and Payback. Payback is a little older (1999), and has quite a bit of violence and language, but the plot and humor was really good I thought. Everybody knows already what Pearl Harbor is about. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">As an amateur historian, and from some comments made by the director, I had a big problem with Pearl Harbor. Sure, the special effects were great, but some basic facts they overlooked or just plain ignored just to make what they thought would be a great movie. IMO, it wasn't. First of all, the director (can't remember his name right now) said in an interview that if people wanted to see the facts in the movie, they should go see Tora! Tora! Tora! That movie is my all time favorite movie for sentimenal reasons, and I found that remark disparaging. Second of all, why make a Pearl Harbor movie if aren't going to include the facts? Basically, Pearl Harbor was a movie about a love triangle. The war scenes were just the background for the drama between the 3 actors. So why would they care about the facts? I think the most galling thing in the movie was when Roosevelt asked something about survivors in the Arizona. He was told they could hear tapping from trapped sailors. The only problem with that was that no one survived below decks when the Arizona blew. The scene was meant to be about the Oklahoma, but obviously no one knew or cared to correct it. But being from Oklahoma, I cringe everytime I see that scene. There are other misrepresentation of the facts, like no pilots in Pearl Harbor at the time flew in the Doolittle Raid, but it was obvious no one cared too much for the facts in this movie. I finally saw the director's cut, and it wasn't much better. I'll take the director's words to heart. If I want to see a movie about Pearl Harbor, I'll stick to Tora! Tora! Tora!