THATS IT, I am deleting this from the computer

[couslee]

The demo that is. I got my CD in.

HOORAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now I have to dl the latest patch. that may take a while with my crappy dial up.

How good is PBW over dial up? Mine usually connects at 49.2 Kbps. conections are stable, but not sure if the game will be recognized by "activity"

[Arkcon]

Originally posted by couslee:
How good is PBW over dial up? Mine usually connects at 49.2 Kbps. conections are stable, but not sure if the game will be recognized by "activity"<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I do it that way. It's OK. The files it has to transfer are only a couple hundred K.

An always on connection would allow you to use the PBW client. Then you would be connected as soon as a game is ready for you. That's convienent.

[atari_eric]

Congrats! I was kinda antsy with my copy too. It came later than I was hoping, yet it's definitely "better than never" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[capnq]

Connection speed isn't all that important for PBW; I only get 31.2k. I do prefer to use the text UI rather than the graphic UI at that speed, though.

[Pax]

Originally posted by couslee:
How good is PBW over dial up? Mine usually connects at 49.2 Kbps. conections are stable, but not sure if the game will be recognized by "activity"<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I connect at 33.2 and PBW is fine.

The trick is, you're not talking to PBW when you play turns there. You download he files to your machine, and THEN play the game ... which means you might lose connection in the meantime. Once you're done, you upload your turnfile to PBW.

[minipol]

Originally posted by couslee:
The demo that is. I got my CD in.

HOORAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now I have to dl the latest patch. that may take a while with my crappy dial up.

How good is PBW over dial up? Mine usually connects at 49.2 Kbps. conections are stable, but not sure if the game will be recognized by "activity"<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wouldn't be so chearful if i where you. Prepare to lose tons of sleep, see your social life go down the drain, drink lots of coffee which is bad for your health and so on.
On the other hand, you get to slaughter some virtual races which can be fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Ed Kolis]

On the topic of PBW download speed... even when my Internet connection is running at a full crawl of 52 or so Kbps, files downloading from PBW only come at around 1 or 2 KB/s, instead of 4 or 5... is it any faster on broadband or is the server just slow? (Hey, with Geo replacing some parts maybe the server will be faster, huh huh huh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif and maybe the files will actually display a % downloaded sometime? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

[Fyron]

I get at most 30KB/sec downloads from PBW. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Ragnarok]

I only get about 40K per second when I download the files. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Sometimes 50 but that's pushing it.
And yes it's broadband. 356K DSL.

[Gandalph]

ATT cable and I get 40-60k downloads depending on time of day.

[geoschmo]

We had been having some upload problems the Last couple weeks before the server went down. I don't believe it was a server problem but an isp problem. Ove rthe LAN I was not experienceing any lag at all like I would if it were a server problem.

Hopefully whatever it was with the isp has been resolved in the mean time. Let me know if any of you are still lagging like that.

Geoschmo

[couslee]

Originally posted by minipol:
I wouldn't be so chearful if i where you. Prepare to lose tons of sleep, see your social life go down the drain, drink lots of coffee which is bad for your health and so on.
On the other hand, you get to slaughter some virtual races which can be fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">lol. WHAT life. I live alone, no local friends ever visit, I am on disability so i don't get out much anyway. I already drink 2-3 pots of coffee a day, so more is not possible. I don't keep a standard sleep schedule either (and not because of the coffee). Thats why a couple of good TBS games are important to me. Sometimes I can be up and play for several hours (don't ask how many http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ) other times, I have to take many breaks and naps. All depends on how I feel.
BAH, enough whining. Back to the info hunt

[couslee]

Racial Techs (organic, stellar, ect): Anywhere I can find info on these? I realise the temporal manip opens a new tech line, but what is in that tech line that would make it attractive? Same goes for the other racial trait tech lines.

Starting resources, 100k: WTF is up with this one? Sure, you start with 100k of each, but you only have storage for 50k. the rest is lost as soon as you end turn. I am assuming selecting this high setting has a negative impact on the final score. Thats ok, but if I am gonna pay that price, I want the (explative) resources available for use. I looked at the .txt files briefly to see if I could find where that was limited, but didn't find it, and I didn't know if just changing one line would hose the whole .txt file. Is there more to modding than just editing those files?

[Fyron]

Start a High Tech game, and use a trait. See what it does.

You get 100k research too, which you can use. And, you can mod the default storage values in Settings.txt. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Desdinova]

racial techs....there has been quite a debate over what is best. as for finding out about them start a game but in the selections give yourself high starting tech and also can see entire tech tree. this will allow you to examine all facilities and components in the game. or if you are patient enough you can read the component.txt and facility.txt files.

here's what i find useful in each tech.

organic - i like the organic armor as it is able to regenerate damage each turn of combat until it is destroyed. also the gestation vats are useful for population growth.

temporal - the temporal shipyard give you an advantage in production but it take a while to get to them as you need temporal tech 4-6.

religous - the talisman allow all direct fire weapons to automatically hit targets in range. the various shrines are also useful. in order of pref for me. nature, war, death, time then fate.

crystalurgy - i like the crystalline restructuring plant as it reduces mtce costs on ships and bases. for combat the energy transmission lens adds to your shield stregth.

psychic - the Allegiance Subverter is a nice way to neutralize your enemy and gain their ships and technology.

hope this helps some. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[couslee]

Thanks. That was exactly the level of detail I was curious about.

[capnq]

I live alone, no local friends ever visit, I am on disability so i don't get out much anyway. I already drink 2-3 pots of coffee a day, so more is not possible. I don't keep a standard sleep schedule either (and not because of the coffee). <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wow, if it weren't for the coffee part, I'd think you were me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Two good sources of info on SE IV are the Frequently Asked Questions For Newbies {link} (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=005518) thread, and the Encyclopedia Malfadorica {link} (http://www.invirtuo.cc/phpwiki/).

[Gryphin]

A slightly different way to skim or study Racial tech, faciites and such is with DavidGs modding program.
A must have utility.

[minipol]

Originally posted by couslee:
lol. WHAT life. I live alone, no local friends ever visit, I am on disability so i don't get out much anyway. I already drink 2-3 pots of coffee a day, so more is not possible. I don't keep a standard sleep schedule either (and not because of the coffee). Thats why a couple of good TBS games are important to me. Sometimes I can be up and play for several hours (don't ask how many http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ) other times, I have to take many breaks and naps. All depends on how I feel.
BAH, enough whining. Back to the info hunt<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">2 or 3 pots of coffee? Wow, now i'm jealous and impressed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
You must have stomage made out of concrete.