Any way to list enemy ships? [Archive]

Merry Jolkar

January 27th, 2003, 06:46 AM

Thank you, SJ. But, the triangle only says there is at least one ship, right? What if there are two, and the ship set blends in to the background. Is there some way to find enemy ships within a system?

Desdinova

January 27th, 2003, 06:47 AM

also once you have scanned an enemy ship its design appears in the designs box. this has been helpful at keeping track of enemy tech progress.

Desdinova

January 27th, 2003, 06:52 AM

do you mean a list like the one of you ships showing their status, orders and location? if so then i have not found one yet, so i would say no.

Merry Jolkar

January 27th, 2003, 06:59 AM

That is too bad. If I wanted to exploid this, I might design a ship set where all the ships look like little clusters of stars that match the background. No one would ever see me coming...! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Desdinova

January 27th, 2003, 07:00 AM

actually there is talk of an invisible shipset. not sure if it has already been made or not.

Krsqk

January 27th, 2003, 07:04 AM

...Except that everyone would replace your shipset with one resembling a glowing white box the minute they had to squint to find your ships. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I think this already happens fairly frequently on PBW.

Ragnarok

January 27th, 2003, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by desdinova:
actually there is talk of an invisible shipset. not sure if it has already been made or not.Yeah, it has been made. Do a search for it and you will find it. I'm too tired to do it myself. So I am leaving now... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Desdinova

January 27th, 2003, 07:09 AM

of course they are located at area 51.

tbontob

January 27th, 2003, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by Krsqk:
...Except that everyone would replace your shipset with one resembling a glowing white box the minute they had to squint to find your ships. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I think this already happens fairly frequently on PBW.Krsqk, I have come across one of those "hard to see shipsets."

How do I replace it with another shipset or "glowing white box"?

The only way I found this ship was to use the play movement log.

Will

January 27th, 2003, 08:37 AM

It's fairly simple to replace ships with a "glowing white box". Just open up the small ship pictures in MSPaint or your editor of choice, and make it all white. Glowing white box.

couslee

January 27th, 2003, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Will:
It's fairly simple to replace ships with a "glowing white box". Just open up the small ship pictures in MSPaint or your editor of choice, and make it all white. Glowing white box.If you change the shipset from other players, that don't have any buggy effects with PBW? (because of the save you upload).
If not, then if a player didn't want to bother with DLing someone else's shipset, couldn't they just copy an AI set and change the name to match the "new" one?

PvK

January 27th, 2003, 11:33 AM

It would have zero effect on PBW. Modding the images only affects what you see on your own computer.

As for not bothering to DL a set, you can do that, but it would be more work, because you would need to rename all the files, too. Although, a program or batch file could be made to do this.

PvK

Pablo

January 27th, 2003, 01:56 PM

If you do not want to download shipsets, you can just leave everything as it is and let the game choose a stock shipset for those races. The problem is that the shipsets may change everytime you load a turn. What I mean is when you load a turn and one player used a shipset which you do not have on your computer, the game will choose (random?) a stock shipset for that race. Next time when you load a turn, the same race may be using a different stock shipset. You can live with that of course but... There are people putting lots of effort in making a nice-looking shipset for others' playing pleasure so I think that 100 kbytes is worth downloading. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Ruatha

January 27th, 2003, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by desdinova:
actually there is talk of an invisible shipset. not sure if it has already been made or not.Here it is, my very first shipset.
It took all the artistic talent I have to make it:
Invisible Shipset (Link to download in this thread) (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=007906#000014)

[ January 27, 2003, 11:58: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

Krsqk

January 27th, 2003, 03:44 PM

It's probably more practical to just put a white dot on each ship, or to do a flood fill in white around the ship. If you turn them into actual white boxes, it's kinda hard to tell what size they are. You may also want to go into the shipset's Main.bmp and change the empire color (sets the color of the numerals which indicate how many ships there are in a sector, among other things).

Chronon

January 27th, 2003, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by PvK:

As for not bothering to DL a set, you can do that, but it would be more work, because you would need to rename all the files, too. Although, a program or batch file could be made to do this.
PvKThere is indeed a very useful piece of free software that does this, which can be found at
CKRename (http://www.musicsucks.com/CKSoft/CKRename/)

In one of my PBW games I am a replacement player, and I didn't like the shipset - lets just call them the "Vogons." So, I replaced all the .bmp files in the "Vogon" shipset's folder with the .bmp files for the Pyrochettes, and renamed all them to Vogon_*_* (It was very easy with the rename program). Voila! Now I see the Pyrochettes, and everyone else sees the "Vogons" (unless they've done the same thing on their computer). The game is much more fun to play now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

tbontob

January 27th, 2003, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by Krsqk:
It's probably more practical to just put a white dot on each ship, or to do a flood fill in white around the ship. If you turn them into actual white boxes, it's kinda hard to tell what size they are. You may also want to go into the shipset's Main.bmp and change the empire color (sets the color of the numerals which indicate how many ships there are in a sector, among other things).Krsqk

As a newbie, I started 4 PBW games at once, all of them with Cue Cappa. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

The problem is that the color of Cue Cappa is deep purple which blends in with the black background of the screen.

I'd very much like to change the color so I can read the numerals.

I went into the Cue Cappa's Main.bmp and found some icons in the middle of the screen.

What do I do now?

I am a utter Newbie at this and have no idea what to do. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

PvK

January 27th, 2003, 09:09 PM

Load it in a paint program (e.g. Start/Accessories/Paint) to load the file, blow up the view so you can easily work with pixels, and then color in all the dark purple with a lighter purple, or whatever color you want.

PvK

PvK

January 27th, 2003, 09:11 PM

Actually though, the Cue Cappa look pretty bright to me - you might just want to adjust the brightness and contrast on your monitor...

PvK

January 27th, 2003, 09:15 PM

If you want to edit the file, and you have a program [such as Photoshop or MS Photo Editor (comes with some Versions of Office)] which allows changing the "Gamma" of the image, that can also easily make it brighter in one simple step.

Of course, if you like the images but just want to brighten the digits and text, you can just brighten the plain rectangle (second position from left, bottom half).

PvK

tbontob

January 27th, 2003, 10:01 PM

Thanks PvK http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

It worked. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Now I can tell if I have a resupply depot at a planet or not! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

What are the other icons used for?

PvK

January 27th, 2003, 10:20 PM

Glad to help.

The first two are big and small flags for the "presence" and owner ID indicators when a unit is spotted in a system, or examined, for example, or when flags are shown for combat dialogs, etc.

Next is the generic seeker image (for organic parasites, for example). Then the CSM seeker image. Then the plasma missile image.

PvK

PvK

January 27th, 2003, 10:45 PM

The complete spec is at http://www.malfador.com/se4/se4race.html .

PvK

Krsqk

January 28th, 2003, 12:11 AM

Ohhh...Bad PvK. *smack smack* A triple-post and a double-post. Should have learned by now, don't you think? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ January 27, 2003, 22:13: Message edited by: Krsqk ]

tbontob

January 28th, 2003, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by Krsqk:
Ohhh...Bad PvK. *smack smack* A triple-post and a double-post. Should have learned by now, don't you think? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Shhhhh!

Don't tell Fyron. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

PvK

January 28th, 2003, 01:25 AM

What, does Fryon want me to edit my Posts instead of posting multiple times?

tbontob

January 28th, 2003, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by PvK:
What, does Fryon want me to edit my Posts instead of posting multiple times?I'd suggest you be very quiet!

Fyron is the cop on the beat! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

He is policing the Posts.

If he sees what he "thinks" is an infraction, he will hound you mercilessly. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Desdinova

January 28th, 2003, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by PvK:
What, does Fryon want me to edit my Posts instead of posting multiple times?maybe because it will increase the post count too quickly and he will miss a millenium post? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

edit. this post is officialy taken back/stricken from the record by me. (due to praise from the Grand Imperator himself in another thread) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ January 27, 2003, 23:39: Message edited by: desdinova ]

tbontob

January 28th, 2003, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by desdinova:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by PvK:
What, does Fryon want me to edit my Posts instead of posting multiple times?maybe because it will increase the post count too quickly and he will miss a millenium post? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

edit. this post is officialy taken back/stricken from the record by me. (due to praise from the Grand Imperator himself in another thread) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <hr /></blockquote>But it was a good point! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

tbontob

January 28th, 2003, 09:14 AM

PvK, I have to thank you again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I've just played a turn on three games and it is so much easier to see the planetary stats now! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ooops! A double post.

(tbontob looks around guiltily)

(then he pulls his fedora down down so low that it covers his eyes, wraps his black overcoat around him and skulks away into the night.)

Fyron

January 28th, 2003, 10:34 AM

You people suck. You know that? You suck!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif j/k http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Blowing one little thing all out of proportion...

tbontob

January 28th, 2003, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You people suck. You know that? You suck!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif j/k http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Blowing one little thing all out of proportion...Hey, I think I learned something.

"j/k" means "joke" or "joking". Y?N?

The only question is "How does Fyron know what it means since he has no sense of humor." j/k <== : ) : )

Fyron, you used up all the smilies, otherwise I would have tossed a few real smilies around the "j/k" : )

Ragnarok

January 28th, 2003, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by tbontob:
Hey, I think I learned something.

"j/k" means "joke" or "joking". Y?N?

The only question is "How does Fyron know what it means since he has no sense of humor." j/k <== : ) : )

Fyron, you used up all the smilies, otherwise I would have tossed a few real smilies around the "j/k" : )J/K means "Just Kidding". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif