Don't feed the trolls, people. [Archive]

Arkcon

February 24th, 2003, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Slick:
There has been some serious trolling around here lately. I hope the admins take notice and take action. The best way to get rid of a troll is to not respond.

Slick.Hear. Hear. It's very easy to avoid. Just don't click on the topic they started. Once they've decided to respond to a thread ... skip it. Online trolls wither and die if ignored.

We won't miss any important info in the process. Everything good is revisited.

If you're bored ... check out anyone's sig links.

Mine for example ... will kill some time harmlessly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ February 24, 2003, 10:17: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

dumbluck

February 24th, 2003, 01:19 PM

Trolls? Trolling? HUH???

*dumbluck stands around with a confused look on his face, then decides to use some Graemlins.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

Askan Nightbringer

February 24th, 2003, 01:34 PM

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif
*Askan briefly looks over the forum then decides to go back and watched the cricket*
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

Fyron

February 24th, 2003, 01:38 PM

I think he was talking about raynor (and someone else, whom I have forgotten his/her name)...

Edit:
Seems another person (or two) rated me a 1 today. How pointless.

[ February 24, 2003, 11:49: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

tesco samoa

February 24th, 2003, 05:44 PM

Or he is talking about Fryon and SJ... Between them they're close to 10000 Posts. You two see the sun and it will not be pretty. LOL

Aloofi

February 24th, 2003, 05:50 PM

I haven't seen any trolls in this neighborhood. Though I've been a resident just for a month, I think I would have noticed such elements walking around.

Wardad

February 24th, 2003, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Krsqk:
I agree. This usually mild-mannered community has been a bit edgy lately. Maybe we need more sunlight? Fiber? Prune juice, anyone?

*Takes a deep breath outside, enjoying the sunny, seventy-degree weather* http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Awww, Prune Juice. A drink for a real Klingon Warrior.

edit: Real warriers can't speell.

[ February 24, 2003, 16:47: Message edited by: Wardad ]

Mephisto

February 24th, 2003, 07:36 PM

Don't make me bring in the sun. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Aloofi

February 24th, 2003, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by Wardad:
Awww, Prune Juice. A drink for a real Klingon Warrior.

edit: Real warriers can't speell.Why did you edit it? It sounded cool, like in Scottish.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ February 24, 2003, 17:57: Message edited by: Aloofi ]

Puke

February 24th, 2003, 09:12 PM

its me, hes talking about ME!

oh, no. stand back people, im the downfall of the community. lack of character, incarnate. (pretty tricky how i can be the physical manifestation of something non-existant, neh?)

dont let me ruin your forum browsing experience! stop responding to this thread, because I posted here! I'll die if you ignore me! the loss of this thread is a small sacrafice to the greater good!

oleg

February 24th, 2003, 09:30 PM

Now, can you imagine a troll posting here ?
every punch on the keybord woud produce a string like this:
cbiwcvbnia http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

Katchoo

February 24th, 2003, 11:02 PM

What's wrong with Trolls?

Trolls help keep the Fairies away, and the Last thing we need are Fairy droppings all over the message Boards.

Trolls just pass gas. I'd rather smell it than step in it.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Fyron

February 24th, 2003, 11:16 PM

No... trolling refers to someone joining a message board and posting things to specifically incite flame wars.

oleg

February 25th, 2003, 02:53 AM

I think we are in Troll-free zone recently.
Slick, what are you talking about ?

---
Imperator, I just gave you fiver to make you happy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Askan Nightbringer

February 25th, 2003, 04:06 AM

Well thats cleared some stuff up. I always thought you could spot trolls by their Norse sounding names. Now a name like Lhugar would be a troll, but Puke doesn't sound like one at all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Askan

Fyron

February 25th, 2003, 06:21 AM

Figure out how to say "Puke" in Norse, and we can get him named properly. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Puke

February 25th, 2003, 07:31 AM

i could not find a translation for puke, or vomit, or obnoxious arse.

but sickness translates to kvilla or sottarfar. I have no idea what the difference is.

Askan Nightbringer

February 25th, 2003, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Puke:
i could not find a translation for puke, or vomit, or obnoxious arse.

but sickness translates to kvilla or sottarfar. I have no idea what the difference is.Kvilla sounds very trollish. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Askan Nightbringer

February 25th, 2003, 12:47 PM

Oops. Did I just feed a troll? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

Perrin

February 25th, 2003, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by Aloofi:
Well, now that you guys started talking about trolls I'm kind of curious myself.....Who's the resident troll? Just to be aware and not feed him... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I believe the current (Political) Troll is Andr�s Lescano

[ February 25, 2003, 16:30: Message edited by: Perrin ]

oleg

February 25th, 2003, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Perrin:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Aloofi:
Well, now that you guys started talking about trolls I'm kind of curious myself.....Who's the resident troll? Just to be aware and not feed him... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I believe the current (Political) Troll is Andr�s Lescano<hr /></blockquote>If Andr�s Lescano is Troll, then I am Goblin Bomber ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif (a unit from Age of Wonders)

Perrin

February 25th, 2003, 06:42 PM

First this is my opinion. Second I said he is a political troll. I don't accuse him of being totally trollish but in this thread: [OT] Humankind is sick and tired of being used as an alibi by its murderers. (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=008285) I believe he is trolling. I have read his first post and few of his replies. Even the title is obviously inflammatory.

RECOGNIZING FLAME BAIT:

If it sounds too stupid to be real, its probably flame bait.

If it sounds like something meant to make people respond in droves, its probably flame bait.

If it sounds like the person is too clueless to ever GET IT, they probably are or they are just tossing out those flamebait gum drops. Either way, it wastes time responding... you know... pearls before swine? These are the reasons for my opinion. Judge for yourself. The Last political flame fest was very similar I don't see why we need to do it all again.

[ February 25, 2003, 18:18: Message edited by: Perrin ]

Perrin

February 25th, 2003, 08:14 PM

Even one of the Mods has now supported my feelings of the Title:

I am not going to lock this down just yet. As an OT thread you guys have a little latitude. I would ask that you try to remain civil. And I am going to edit the title to something a little less inflamatory. The current one is just asking for trouble.

Geoschmo

geoschmo

February 25th, 2003, 09:04 PM

First of all, I think the term "Resident Troll" is an oxymoron. Doesn't part of the definition of a troll entail the person not being a regular poster on the forum?

Andres is not a troll. Andres is a regular poster and contributor to the Shrapnel forums, the creator of several incredible SE4 shipsets, the administrator of one of the best SE4 websites, a valued member of the Se4 community, and an all-around great guy. That other thread is just a topic he feels very strongly about. Sometimes emotions cause people not to use their better judgement.

That's why we have Moderators. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

[ February 25, 2003, 19:07: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Puke

February 25th, 2003, 09:14 PM

Andres has created alot of great work, and brought alot to the community. every so often, one of the forum members brings up a political topic. usually, it is discussed with far more civility than you will find elsewhere on the internet.

it took some effort for some of us to drag this inflamitory anti-troll thread around to a discussion about green-creatures. please dont drag us into politics.

Lemmy

February 25th, 2003, 09:19 PM

I think trolls can be regular posters on a forum...but given the nature of most forum admins, trolls are usually Banned before becoming a regular http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

But if we must have name one, i'd vote for Puke to be the friendly neighbourhood troll. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Fyron

February 25th, 2003, 09:26 PM

Resident Troll is only an oxymoron when talking about civil forums. Some forums are littered with resident trolls, especially those forums that hate newbies.

Perrin

February 25th, 2003, 09:30 PM

I witnessed and even posted in the Last Iraqi War debate. It became obvious to me that whatever your feelings on the matter; nothing that was said would change the minds of anyone who had an opinion on the matter.

I would like to say that I have no problems with Andr�s Lescano. It is just I am just getting a little frustrated with these political flame fests no matter how civil.

(Now that I think about it.. It was the title that goaded me into posting my frustrations in this topic. I guess I am just sick of it. )

Anyway back to space conquest

[ February 25, 2003, 19:32: Message edited by: Perrin ]

Puke

February 25th, 2003, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by Lemmy:
...But if we must have name one, i'd vote for Puke to be the friendly neighbourhood troll. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif i second the nomination. please moderate me down, accordingly.

David E. Gervais

February 25th, 2003, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by Puke:
i second the nomination. please moderate me down, accordingly.I don't think it's legal for you to second a nomination for yourself! So I'll second it for you if you like! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Cheers!

mottlee

February 25th, 2003, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
No... trolling refers to someone joining a message board and posting things to specifically incite flame wars.Thanks IF I was woundering what they were http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Andr�s

February 25th, 2003, 11:18 PM

Well I guess I've been accused of being worse things than a mere troll.
I just thought that with the possibility of war is getting closer everyday there was a need to revive the discussion in the civilized way that can only be seen in these forums. Well most Americans I know are on this forums anyway.
And I also thank Geo for changing the subject.

David E. Gervais

February 26th, 2003, 02:10 AM

Is Kvilla any relation to Bob Villa? Now that would be scary! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

..wow, less than 5 minutes awake and I'm already funny!

Cheers!

primitive

February 26th, 2003, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by David E. Gervais:
Is Kvilla any relation to Bob Villa? Now that would be scary! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

..wow, less than 5 minutes awake and I'm already funny!

Cheers!You are a very sottarfar man David ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Aloofi

February 26th, 2003, 02:54 AM

Well, now that you guys started talking about trolls I'm kind of curious myself.....Who's the resident troll? Just to be aware and not feed him... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

dumbluck

February 26th, 2003, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by Puke:
...it took some effort for some of us to drag this inflamitory anti-troll thread around to a discussion about green-creatures. please dont drag us into politics.Really? I thought trolls had black, scaly skin with lots of warts and such...

Fyron

February 26th, 2003, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by dumbluck:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Puke:
...it took some effort for some of us to drag this inflamitory anti-troll thread around to a discussion about green-creatures. please dont drag us into politics.Really? I thought trolls had black, scaly skin with lots of warts and such...<hr /></blockquote>Depends on the troll in question. People get confused by Hollywood all the time. Just look at all of the misconceptions of vampires that people around here have.

Askan Nightbringer

February 26th, 2003, 10:18 AM

Well I admit that in ancient times the Norse may have been authority on trolls but at the moment its Peter Jackson. Last time I was at the cricket with Pete I distinctly recall him telling me that "Trolls are large and gray, with very slow reflexes and a habit of dying with an arrow through the brain".

Askan

Wizarc

February 26th, 2003, 10:28 AM

What do trolls eat?

Askan Nightbringer

February 26th, 2003, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by Wizarc:
What do trolls eat?Hobbits?

Fyron

February 26th, 2003, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by Askan Nightbringer:
Well I admit that in ancient times the Norse may have been authority on trolls but at the moment its Peter Jackson. Last time I was at the cricket with Pete I distinctly recall him telling me that "Trolls are large and gray, with very slow reflexes and a habit of dying with an arrow through the brain".

AskanThat was only one type of troll in Lord of the Rings though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Aloofi

February 26th, 2003, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Askan Nightbringer:
I distinctly recall him telling me that "Trolls are large and gray, with very slow reflexes and a habit of dying with an arrow through the brain".

AskanThat was only one type of troll in Lord of the Rings though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <hr /></blockquote>Yeah, those were Cave Trolls.
Check out the huge Mountain Trolls that were manning the Black Gate of Insenmouth in the Two Towers.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Suicide Junkie

February 26th, 2003, 04:31 PM

If my inner-child is correct Trolls eat gruff billie goats. And they live under bridges. In order to get rid of the trolls, then, we should burn all our bridges! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ February 26, 2003, 14:59: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

Instar

February 26th, 2003, 05:40 PM

No no no. To kill trolls, you need to apply acid or fire to them when you knock them down (burning hands, fire arrows, acid arrows, etc)

Aloofi

February 26th, 2003, 06:08 PM

A good o'l flamethrower would do the job nicely. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

oleg

February 26th, 2003, 06:17 PM

How about exposing to sun light ? (with BIG magnifying glass http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Aloofi

February 26th, 2003, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by oleg:
How about exposing to sun light ? (with BIG magnifying glass http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )The mountain Trolls in the Black Gate were out during the day!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif
I didn't realize that untill you mentioned the sunlight. I guess Peter Jackson aplied a couple tons of sun lotion on them..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Fyron

February 26th, 2003, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />If my inner-child is correct Trolls eat gruff billie goats. And they live under bridges. In order to get rid of the trolls, then, we should burn all our bridges! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <hr /></blockquote>http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif That works on so many levels. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Suicide Junkie

February 26th, 2003, 10:43 PM

Wasn't it perpetually dark, cloudy and gloomy all over the place, and especially near mordor?

Mephisto

February 26th, 2003, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by Aloofi:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by oleg:
How about exposing to sun light ? (with BIG magnifying glass http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )The mountain Trolls in the Black Gate were out during the day!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif
I didn't realize that untill you mentioned the sunlight. I guess Peter Jackson aplied a couple tons of sun lotion on them..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <hr /></blockquote>Funny that you say that. You are right. But I remember in RotK (book) that in the final battle at the gate there are Trolls, too. Not in bright light but at daytime. Strange. Or does my memory fail me?

Fyron

February 26th, 2003, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by Mephisto:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Aloofi:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by oleg:
How about exposing to sun light ? (with BIG magnifying glass http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )The mountain Trolls in the Black Gate were out during the day!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif
I didn't realize that untill you mentioned the sunlight. I guess Peter Jackson aplied a couple tons of sun lotion on them..... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <hr /></blockquote>Funny that you say that. You are right. But I remember in RotK (book) that in the final battle at the gate there are Trolls, too. Not in bright light but at daytime. Strange. Or does my memory fail me?<hr /></blockquote>There are different types of trolls. Only some of them are aversely affected by sunlight. Others are not.

In the battle of Gondor in RotK, storm clouds and uncounted numbers of bats and birds blocked the sunlight anyways. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
Wasn't it perpetually dark, cloudy and gloomy all over the place, and especially near mordor?Around Mordor, yes.

[ February 26, 2003, 21:21: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

CEO TROLL

February 26th, 2003, 11:30 PM

HEY, I'm Hungry.

How about a leg of Fyron?
Mephisto Muffin?
Instar burger maybe?
and wash it down with some sparkling Perrin water.

Is Suicide Junkie a hot mexican dish???

Well it's time to bathe. I'll just scrub down with a hairy Aloofi Loofta.

Mephisto

February 27th, 2003, 01:14 AM

Wardad, you can run, but never hide. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

oleg

February 27th, 2003, 02:17 AM

I started the now locked thread just to learn who is "CEO TROLL". Duff... Should name it correctly, not "who is troll" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Perrin

February 27th, 2003, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by Askan Nightbringer:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Wizarc:
What do trolls eat?Hobbits?<hr /></blockquote>If my inner-child is correct Trolls eat gruff billie goats. And they live under bridges. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Aloofi

February 27th, 2003, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by Mephisto:
[]Funny that you say that. You are right. But I remember in RotK (book) that in the final battle at the gate there are Trolls, too. Not in bright light but at daytime. Strange. Or does my memory fail me?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the Big Ram that was built in the foundries of Barad-Dum was manned by Mountain Trolls, but that happened after the Dawnless Day, when Sauron make his Darkness fall on Gondor.
Now in the movie I don't remember if it was dark over the Black Gate, but it was definitively during the day, so maybe Peter Jackson actualy made a mistake... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I'll have to check in the book if only the Cave Trolls are suppose to die under sunlight.

By the way, How many kinds of Troll are there?
I remember the Cave Trolls, Mountain Trolls, but I'm not sure about Wood Trolls.
There can't be a Troll for every geographic feature, right?