For Honor, and no mercy !

[oleg]

Royal Manticoran Navy at your service ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
It does not have its own AI, if anybody wants to put one for unmoded SE, I would greatly appreciate. I may make one for Proportions if find time.
1048292162.ZIP (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1048292162.ZIP)

I'm not satisfied with some pictures and will try to improve this shipset.

[oleg]

Oh, Dear...
I mixed up emperor title and emperor name http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif
Of cource tt should be:
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Emperor Name := Honor Harrington
Emperor Title := Lady

[Katchoo]

Very nice Shipset!

Is that a Grav Lance sticking out of the Escort? If so, nice touch http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[TerranC]

I liiiiiiiiiiiike it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Especially the transports and the Fighters.

Great job as always.

[Baron Munchausen]

Were the Manticoran ships plain silver? The design concepts are nice but the plain silvery surfaces don't look right. Find some good textures for it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[oleg]

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Were the Manticoran ships plain silver? The design concepts are nice but the plain silvery surfaces don't look right. Find some good textures for it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, they are plain white: From "Honor Among Enemies" - "...she (AMN Derfflinger) was a haze grey instead of white both the RMN and PN favored". There must be some other references that RMN ships are all white. Actually, I used "faze" texture ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif It can be seen with 1024 resolution but not with 800 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Phoenix-D]

Nice set. Two minor quibbles, aside from the already noted name bug. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

-you forgot to delete mephisto's terran_ai_general file. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif it's included.

-Seeing Manticore with 50% trade is really, really ammusing.

Phoenix-D

[oleg]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Nice set. Two minor quibbles, aside from the already noted name bug. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

-you forgot to delete mephisto's terran_ai_general file. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif it's included.

-Seeing Manticore with 50% trade is really, really ammusing.

Phoenix-D<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I just picked up the first race at random as an AI http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Sorry about that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif

The "real" Manticore AI should have "natural merchants" advanced trade, "merchant" culture and some trade bonus I think.

[oleg]

Originally posted by Katchoo:
Very nice Shipset!

Is that a Grav Lance sticking out of the Escort? If so, nice touch http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmm, No, it just happen. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif What is the SE grav lance anlog ? Shield generators killing weapon ? It would be nice to include it into some designs !

[Katchoo]

I forget the exact effect of the Grav Lance, but something that goes through shields and burns out shield generators would probably fit the bill.

Is it possible to ram a ship but not destroy both ships? The Grav Lance was a ramming weapon, wasen't it?

[oleg]

No, it just has a very short range. In HH universe, where ships fight each other millions of kilometers apart, it was quite close to ramming though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Baron Munchausen]

Originally posted by oleg:
Yes, they are plain white: From "Honor Among Enemies" - "...she (AMN Derfflinger) was a haze grey instead of white both the RMN and PN favored". There must be some other references that RMN ships are all white. Actually, I used "faze" texture ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif It can be seen with 1024 resolution but not with 800 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But white is not silver. They look silver to me. Maybe some sort of a texture could be found to make them look like they are 'painted white' instead of a plain, featureless silver?

[Phoenix-D]

"Is it possible to ram a ship but not destroy both ships? The Grav Lance was a ramming weapon, wasen't it?"

Not likely. The thing isn't a ramming weapon, just short-ranged, tempermental and a mass hog ('just')

Since the wedges extend for kilometers beyond the ship, ramming directly wouldn't even be needed. When the wedges hit, the ship with the weaker wedge has its engine rooms blown to bits by the interference.

Phoenix-D

[Taera]

it is a very, very nice shipset. monocolouring doesnt bother me much (my original Taera was monocoloured too..) and the shipset is awesome!

[oleg]

Thanks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I'll experiment with colors and make some extra neoexpansion images.

[David E. Gervais]

..Indeed, you have a very nice shipset there. In fact it was nice enough to inspire me...

1048459239.gif (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1048459239.gif)

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1048459239.gif

Here's a nice new shiny avatar extracted from your shipset. It's yours, all yours. Enjoy! (you might have noticed the ship has a bit more of a blueish tint than your set, but I did that to help it fit in with the background!)

I hope you like it as much as I like your new shipset. Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[oleg]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I did want to make a more bluesh shipset, but it was a bit at odds with supposed RMN colors

[ March 24, 2003, 00:24: Message edited by: oleg ]

[oleg]

Extra ships and infantry http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
If you want to use them in Proportions, rename colonyshiplarge to something else, I think regular colonyship is better looking.
1048552778.ZIP (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1048552778.ZIP)

[Talenn]

Very nice! All we need now is some Peeps and Graysons and we are in business... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Thanx for the set!

Talenn

[oleg]

Thanks ! Yeah, it would be nice to have Peeps in the game but afraid I need some break for awhile http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Dawn Falcon]

heh...

As David Webber remarked over on Baen's Bar, he regrets ever inventing the G*** L****

(http://dahak.ne.client2.attbi.com:8080/FAQs/InfoDump/hh_grav_lance.htm)

[solops]

Originally posted by oleg:
To all Honor Harrington fans http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
1048292162.ZIP (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1048292162.ZIP)

AI is temporaly borrowed from Mephisto' Terrans. Just did't want to post empty .bmp images. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Should the file "Terran_AI_General.txt" be renamed to "Manticore_AI_General.txt" or what? What does the "general" file do?

[oleg]

manticore_AI_general is there too. Terran file was left by mistake http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Sorry

[solops]

No problem. I just don't understand the AI files and cannot make a decision concerning the files without aid. Speaking of aid, manticore has no EMP files. How does one create them? And what happens if you play a game against a Manticore AI that has no EMP file?

[capnq]

.emp files are only used to add an empire in the game setup. When an AI is chosen randomly, it uses the settings in RaceName_AI_General.txt .

To generate an .emp file, start games with a large number of random AIs until the race you want is included, then take control of that race and Save Empire (on Game Menu [F2]). You'll need to repeat this for all three point levels (2k, 3k, 5k).

[Tanus]

Someone should upload this shipset to PBW. I quite like it, but it's a pain to use when it's not handily available to download by others in the game (IE, when I'm not the host http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

Edit: Where do you guys think Weber'll go with the next book? He kinda threw everything back into the fire, so to speak, and things should get interesting. Heh... I've read the series 2 or 3 times so far http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif , but that still doesn't help predicting things. Any thoughts?

[ March 15, 2004, 06:20: Message edited by: Tanus ]

[oleg]

Glad you like it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I don't visit PBW much. If you like, you can upload it there. I'll appreciate it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[DemoMonkey]

"Where do you guys think Weber'll go with the next book? He kinda threw everything back into the fire, so to speak, and things should get interesting. Heh... I've read the series 2 or 3 times so far , but that still doesn't help predicting things. Any thoughts?"

Read up on your history of the Napoleonic Wars and you should pick up a few clues, I daresay.

[oleg]

Originally posted by DemoMonkey:
"Where do you guys think Weber'll go with the next book? He kinda threw everything back into the fire, so to speak, and things should get interesting. Heh... I've read the series 2 or 3 times so far , but that still doesn't help predicting things. Any thoughts?"

Read up on your history of the Napoleonic Wars and you should pick up a few clues, I daresay. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Don't think so. SK Manticore is a dominant force now so it should be beyond Napoleonic Wars. Next step would be a some sort of Crimea War - united SKM and Peps invading Andermin (sp.-sorry) Empire or whatever else that can pass as a Russian Empire.

[solops]

I think he is creating the conditions for a general war that includes all of the current combatants as well as the most of the rest of human space. Whether or not this will happen remains to be seen, but the threat of such a war (and its effect on trade) will figure into the current combatants' calculations. Further complicating matters is the impending disintegration of the Solarian League which will lead to dozens of pocket empires and many brush-fire type wars. These may become involved in the current Manticore-haven war. He has a lot of ways to jump, but the whole of human space is definately more destabilised and the Haven-Manticore-Andermani tech bases have become more even then before the cease-fire. "Crown of Slaves" really blew the door open.

Several years ago I posted a note on a Harrington fansite postulating that the (then) unlocated Manticoran wormhole would lead to alien space, opening all kinds of possibilities. That, of course, did not happen. But still, if he ever needs to he can introduce aliens for the human factions to deal with.

[ March 17, 2004, 02:48: Message edited by: solops ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

i had advance knowledge of something like this. i don't know where i read it, but something like 'a war that would eventually involve all of human space'.

and he has said there will not be any space-faring aliens. i think he means 'independant space-faring aliens', since the 'cats are already spacepassengering. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif and spacepassengercolonizing

[ March 17, 2004, 05:31: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[DemoMonkey]

Oleg

The France analog is just past the Robespierre ("Rob S. Pierre". It is to weep.)Reign of Terror analog and the conniving Napoleon analog is just beginning his rise to power analog.

Start of the Napoleonic wars is JUST where the series is. Don't forget how big an influence C.J. Forster's "Hornblower" series is on Mr Weber.

And I, for one, can't wait.


(I just like the word analog today.)

[Cirvol]

i have to say , i just love honor http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

i read another book by weber recently which was pretty cool - the non-honor-world-one-off which had a lot more tech...

the 2 kids of the emporer of the human race do some fun things http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

anyone else read it?

[solops]

The Dahak series? That's good fun, too.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Cirvol:
i have to say , i just love honor http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

i read another book by weber recently which was pretty cool - the non-honor-world-one-off which had a lot more tech...

the 2 kids of the emporer of the human race do some fun things http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

anyone else read it? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">yep. sounds like you have yet to discover www.baen.com, (http://www.baen.com) the publisher, www.baen.com/library, (http://www.baen.com/library) the publishers free library, which contains about forty books, the whole book, no weird formats or anything and www.webscriptions.net, (http://www.webscriptions.net) the publishers e-book site, where with just a credit card and a login you can buy the whole book for the cost of a pocketbook, download it in html or plain text and a few other standard formats or read it on the internet with no time limits. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

baen's website seems to be down right now.

[ March 19, 2004, 04:28: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

baen's website is up, along with this months www.webscription.net (http://www.webscription.net) books, if anyone was waiting.

no HH or BB, for those who were waiting for those.

[ March 20, 2004, 05:39: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Cirvol]

the book title is actually 'heirs of empire'

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif its cool - anyone read it?

[Tanus]

The Dahak trilogy can be found as a single compendium entitled Empire from the Ashes. I quite enjoyed those books as well, and he certainly left a lot to be done at the end, though I don't now if he has any intention of continuing in that universe. Seems kinda unlikely though.

There's also the 'March' series (March Upcountry, March to the Sea, March to the Stars), which is different again, but quite enjoyable.

Any new book by Weber is something to look forward to, in my humble opinion http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Originally posted by Cirvol:
the book title is actually 'heirs of empire'

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif its cool - anyone read it? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I own the omnibus on webscriptions. I think it was six bucks us. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Someone beat me to it. the price of multitasking. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I think I have heard something in the baen forums about another dahak universe book, but I'm not sure wether it was someone qouting DW or just speculation. But there's definitly room for a sequal.

[ March 23, 2004, 19:26: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[mrscrogg]

I've read all DW's major books great author and great reads , first book I read on plane flight to Hawaii 10 years ago on my honeymoon hooked since

[narf poit chez BOOM]

If DW wrote a SEIV book...

[ March 24, 2004, 04:48: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]