Mods and Crap

[Atrocities]

I was going to make this a poll but then I realized that it was an impossible task so I decided to just make a post.

We now have many many mods available to play that either give us a new style of game play, or enhance our game play. With all the differant mods, and what they do, would it not be a good idea to catagorize them?

For example:

AI Improvement (AI):
TDM Mod (SAM)
AI Campaign

Enhancments and Game Additions (EGA):
Fyrons FQM 1, 2
Deathstalkers Mount Mod
Image mod
Tampa Gamers sound Mod
Ultimate Strategy Mod

Altered Game Play Mods (AGPM):
Proportions
Pirates And Nomads
Atrocities Star Trek Mod
Babylon 5
Star Wars

Many mods would have to be additionally classified as Stand Alone Mods (SAM).

Some mods would have to be listed as AI Supported and Non AI Supported.

Some would have requirments such as the Image Mod or such.

I don't know what the rest of you think, or care, but I know I get a lot of emails asking me what the differant mods do. I always refer them to the Mod Thread, mod list site, or the page Fyron made for Malfador. (Preferably)

Most people do not know what mod to get. I always tell them, and correct me if I am wrong, that the must have mods fall into the above catagories.

The TDM mod adds great AI to stock races and a few others additional races.
It is a stand alone mod. (SAM)

The mods I use are the Image Mod, the FQM2 Delux, USM, Proportions, Mount Mod (modified to my tastes), and a combination of a few other mods.

I often just play using my own AIOM, or All In One Mod. It consists of my new intel mod in addition to portions of other mods combined with new components and facilities that I have made. It uses good AI, and the best that all of the other mods have to offer. I wanted a mod that I would enjoy playing. I am sure most of you have simular favorite custom mods too. But new players do not have this luxury and if there was some basic way to tell them what mods they should use right off, and what mods to try later could be a big help.

Just a thought.

EDIT; Sorry SJ, thanks for the spelling help. I typed this up just before I went to bed. I did not proof it that well. My bad.

[ April 10, 2003, 08:48: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Suicide Junkie]

Are you referring to the imagmod image packs, or the imagemod mod? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

It seems that those could also be divided into "Total conVersions" and "Mix & Match mods"

PS:
Some typos;
1) Pirates and Nomads
2) Star Wars

PPS:
Does anyone have a copy of the imagemodmod? I can't seem to find mine http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ April 09, 2003, 19:21: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

[gregebowman]

What would help me is to list them by which ones I can play solo and whether or not the mod has AI included. I still don't do PBM, and right now don't have the time even if I did want to play. Also, if people wouldn't mind sharing some of their mods like Atrocities was talking about, that would be great too.

[Fyron]

PPS:
Does anyone have a copy of the imagemodmod? I can't seem to find mine

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Care to clarify that statement? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

[Suicide Junkie]

Bah, Deja vu all over again.

I know I've done this at least twice, cause I know I was showing my dad how cool it was when you can eyeball the difference between a meson bLaster I and a meson bLaster IV in combat.

[PvK]

Attrocities, what do you mean by a "Stand Alone Mod"?

PvK

[tesco samoa]

wow sj.... perhaps i should introduce you to human companionship.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[capnq]

The Encyclopedia Malfadorica {link} (http://www.invirtuo.cc/phpwiki/) entry for mods {link} (http://www.invirtuo.cc/phpwiki/index.php/modification) suggests four categories:

AIs/shipsets/races
gameplay mods
map mods
graphic mods

[Atrocities]

Then those are the ones we should use then if any one is interested.

[Atrocities]

Thanks SJ, I appreciate the help. I was really tired when I typed this up, and it shows.

[Atrocities]

Stand Alone Mod means that the mod is self contained and can run without copying over of files. I know that most mods are this way, but some have modified files. In that way I guess the TDM is not a SAM, but a mod that alters the the Race AI to use new components and facilities would be.

Because you can not take a NON Modded race with AI and put it into a SAM mod and have it work without errors.

Thanks, I had not figured for that. Again, I was too tired.

[ April 10, 2003, 08:55: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Fyron]

Oh, and by the way...

Enhancments and Game Additions (EGA):
Fyrons FQM 1, 2 <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is redundant. Fyron's Fyron's Quadrant Mod? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Atrocities]

I get it. It was just an idea thats all. If it is redundant, so be it. It was just an idea. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Forget I mentioned it then.

[oleg]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
IFor example:

AI Improvement (AI):
TDM Mod (SAM)
AI Campaign

...<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, AI Campaign should be in the same bracket as Proportions, IMHO.

[Atrocities]

Rollo, I only used an example. If I was not, I would most definately have included it.

[JLS]

Originally posted by oleg:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Atrocities:
IFor example:

AI Improvement (AI):
TDM Mod (SAM)
AI Campaign

...<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, AI Campaign should be in the same bracket as Proportions, IMHO.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Agreed.
In the AI Improvement Category but with a note or Asterisk that Proportions is the Parent Host.

But Oleg, there are changes added every couple of weeks to AI Campaign as the AIC Mod grows, before long it will transform into something further remote from Proportions altogether . Right now it’s a cross between Proportions 2.52 and Base se4, with a lot of new and or different innovations from the Players; Constantly being added.

So it may be best the way Atrocities has it, now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

But, with this said. AI Campaign would have never been Modeled; if it were not for PvK and Proportions.

John
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ April 10, 2003, 16:23: Message edited by: JLS ]

[Ed Kolis]

I don't know what Atrocities spelled "and" as originally, but maybe it should officially be "Pirates 'n' Nomads"! More of a rustic feel, y'know? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
I get it. It was just an idea thats all. If it is redundant, so be it. It was just an idea. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Forget I mentioned it then.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No no no. It is a good idea. What I said was redundant is the name Fyron's FQM. It is saying Fyron's twice in a row. The mod listing scheme isn't redundant. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Rollo]

Well, then using these categories Devnull Mod Gold (which wasn't mentioned earlier, *Rollo uses rolled up newspaper to twack Atrocities over the head. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) would fall into the following categories:

* game altering, stand-alone Mod
* comes with AI
* doesn't require image mod. But if you do have the image mod, you can delete the additional graphics in .../pictures/combat, .../pictures/components, and .../pictures/planets that come with DNM to save disk space.

Rollo

[Krsqk]

No, it's not. He's trying to make sure you know that it's the Fyron's Quadrant Mod done by Fyron. You know how trendy it is to do a Fyron's Quadrant Mod these days--why, just yesterday, I found an Atrocities' FQM, an SJFQM, a Ruatha FQM, a Puke FQM, and the standard Fyron's FQM. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Just shamelessly padding for that promotion to "Captain Krsqk." Hmmm, sounds like a Star Trek parody. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[spoon]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
saying Fyron's twice in a row. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're not like an ATM Machine?

[Fyron]

Krsqk:
ROFLOL!

Originally posted by spoon:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
saying Fyron's twice in a row. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're not like an ATM Machine?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL! Nope. I try not to be redundant. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif