desesperatly seeking races...

[trooper]

Ok, the word is a bit too strong, I will survive if I don't get them all...

Always try to save old races from oblivion, I'm looking for those particular races :

name (race directory name)

- Army Of Light Collective AOL -> especialy this one
- Centauri Republic (CENTAURI)
- Chaos Legion (CHAOS)
- Turian Commonwealth (COMWEALTH)
- Terran Confederation (WC) (CONFED)
- Cuckleheed Imperium (CUCKLEHEED)
- Earth Defense Force (EDF)
- Galactic Command (G) -> come on ZeroAdunn, you must have it on your PC, don't you ?
- Kzinti Hegemony (KZINTI)
- Lyosion Empire (L)
- Lego Empire (LEGO)
- League of Non-Aligned Worlds (LNAW)
- Mongo Imperium (MING)
- Mirak Hegemony (MIRAK)
- Nloam Empire (NLOAM)
- Panije Coalition (PANIJE) -> and this Last one too (the author doesn't own it anymore)

If you could send any of these race to eric.bergbauer at free.fr, or give me a link where they can be downloaded, it would be great.

Pleaaaaase... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ April 17, 2003, 16:36: Message edited by: trooper ]

[pathfinder]

For what MOD? with or without AI?

I believe i have AoL and I know I have LNAW & Centauri.

[ April 17, 2003, 11:32: Message edited by: pathfinder ]

[trooper]

Stock game, or other mod if no stock game Version available. With AI and design name file if possible.

[ April 17, 2003, 11:46: Message edited by: trooper ]

[dogscoff]

I think I have the Lego set on my HD. I'll mail it.

EDIT: Sent.

[ April 17, 2003, 11:55: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

[General Woundwort]

Originally posted by trooper:
Ok, the word is a bit too strong, I will survive if I don't get them all...

Always try to save old races from oblivion, I'm looking for those particular races :


If you could send any of these race to eric.berbauer at free.fr, or give me a link where they can be downloaded, it would be great.

Pleaaaaase... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think the LNAW and the Centauri can be found in the B5 Mod. I know for a fact that the Cuckleheeds are on PBW - I just downloaded them the other day. The Kzintis/Miraks, Legos, Chaos, Panije, Ming, and EDF are floating somewhere in the Old Forums/SEIV Shipsets limbo. I can send my scouts out after them later today (unless someone beats me to the punch).

The rest are MIA as far as I know...

[Executron]

Ah yes..the army of the light... there were many arces on the old Universal Shipyards and I download-ed them all before it changed it's form...

I still have it as well as the Army of the Dark http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Give me a mail and I will reply with the race style..

[dogscoff]

Trooper the mail I sent bounced. Are you sure that's the correct address? If it is, mail me and I'll reply.

[trooper]

How stupid I am... I made a mistake in my own name...

the right address is : eric.bergbauer at free.fr

[dogscoff]

How stupid I am... I made a mistake in my own name...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">heh, well it is Friday. I've re-sent the file.

(Before anyone says anything, today is an honourary Friday because we have a bank holiday tomorrow. And another one on Monday. And it's sunny. Yihoo!)

[General Woundwort]

My scouts have returned from the depths of the Shrapnel Games download pages, with the following shipsets located...

- Chaos Legion (CHAOS) (partial set)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/ubbuploads/Mac/ChaosShipset.zip
- Terran Confederation (WC) (CONFED)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1041892475.zip
- Earth Defense Force (EDF)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/ubbuploads/Lion+of+High+Park/EDF.zip
- Kzinti Hegemony (KZINTI)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/ubbuploads/Atraikius/Kzinti_beta.zip
- Mongo Imperium (MING)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/ubbuploads/Lion+of+High+Park/mingthemerciless.zip
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/ubbuploads/Lion+of+High+Park/mingadd.zip
(Bonus – the Flash Gordon set as well…)
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/ubbuploads/Lion+of+High+Park/flashgordon.zip
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/ubbuploads/Lion+of+High+Park/flashadd.zip
(Ming & Flash figher/race portraits in *add.zip files)

Also Found – the Dilgar by Pathfinder
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1043037950.ZIP

Hugh’s Swarm
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1046566357.zip

Testcase Fan Club by Pathfinder
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1045376425.ZIP

Hope this helps.

[ZeroAdunn]

Tell you what, I will do a rerender of the Lyosion Empire soon and send it to you.

And don't worry about the galactic Command, it was a piece of crap. I could revisit it, but it would be pointless as hadrian's Aleskander House Sector uses the same design concept for its ships.

[ April 17, 2003, 22:20: Message edited by: ZeroAdunn ]

[Taera]

Terran Confederation or Terran Coalition?
I have the Panije, still need it?

[AJC]

I have the Nloam

[trooper]

AJC , Terra : yes, you can send it...

Well, it seems that almost everything is there, thanks to all. I'll check tomorow to see if a race has been forgotten in the list. I'll have lot'of work this week...

[pathfinder]

Well...I used to have AoL and AoD but seems I lost them in December to a HDD failure http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

and the Centauri, LNAW CAN be found in the race set forum here...

Glad others could find them and help you trooper http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[KirbyEF]

Do you have the Moonbeams?
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=008730

They are currently in "Beta", but as soon as I finish the General AI they will be ready for primetime (v1.0) ....

Thanks,
KirbyEF

[trooper]

Taera : Yes, would like to have the Panije !

Kirby : There a link on the latest Version of moonbeams in the racedir on SOTAS. email me if a new Version is available. I can host this shipset if you think it is completed, if you like.

Pathfinder : I seize the opportunity to ask you if you don't mind having your shipsets (don't know which one exactly, i'll have to watch my list), I mean, those which don't have a home yet on another site, hosted on SOTAS ?

Thanks to all.

[trooper]

Well, after having checked, here is what I still don't have :

- Turian Commonwealth (COMWEALTH)
- Galactic Command (G) (want to see it even if it's ugly (can't be worse than Forchains) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif )

Noone has a zip of these really ? should I put "lost for good" on the racelist ?

And these one should be in my mailbox soon (don't forget me!) :

- Lyoson Empire (L)
- Nloam Empire (NLOAM)
- Panije Coalition (PANIJE)

[Fyron]

(can't be worse than Forchains) ) <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm pretty sure that the Pyrochette was the first se4 ship set, actually.

Also, the Forchain empire was an empire on the SE Universe Ladder for years, run by Lord Aegis (who also was a Ladder admin for a while, and one of the people that worked on the code).

[ April 18, 2003, 19:18: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[AJC]

Trooper - I will send the set tonite....

However - for whatever reason - there isnt any AI files in my copy of the Nloam.....!

But At least I have the ships

[Taera]

sent.

Trooper do you have Taeron?

[ April 18, 2003, 19:59: Message edited by: Taera ]

[QuarianRex]

Originally posted by trooper:
Well, after having checked, here is what I still don't have :

- Turian Commonwealth (COMWEALTH)<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Turians are currently posted on PBW (just checked). Take a look there.

[trooper]

Originally posted by Taera:
sent.

Trooper do you have Taeron?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Only received a message, no attached file !

The taeron are available on "the singularity" site.

[trooper]

Originally posted by QuarianRex:
The Turians are currently posted on PBW (just checked). Take a look there.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All I've found is a .emp file ?

[Fyron]

Did you see my post Trooper?

[pathfinder]

Trooper: sure host any or all of mine...

[trooper]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Did you see my post Trooper?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, Forchain is an old "dinosaur" race indeed. and so ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif

[Fyron]

So the SOTAS preview page says you don't know who the author was, but you do now! So go fix the page. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ April 18, 2003, 23:52: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[trooper]

Done.

[pathfinder]

Trooper: The Hyach were done by Zircher for the B5 MOD. Just saw that the author was unknown on your web page http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Fyron]

No link to my web site in your links page? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif It isn't an important site? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif I have a link to SOTAS on my page. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

You should probably make the race dir page say who the author of the Forchain set is too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

And Zanar'ri (note the apostrophe) should probably say Atrocities/Fyron for "author", as it is based off of my old se3 ship set.

[ April 19, 2003, 02:24: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[AJC]

Trooper,
I sent the nloam set, did it make it to you?

[trooper]

Yes, it's OK, thanks.
I will include all that on SOTAS in the coming days, so anyone can use those races.

[Taera]

sent you the panije this morning, did you get it? and sorry for the Last time, i always forget to attach the files http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

[trooper]

Received, thanks Andrey.

Panije and lego empires are now available for preview and download on SOTAS, if anyone interested.

[ZeroAdunn]

Trust me, the Galactic Command is that bad. The pyrochette was a nice shipset.

[ZeroAdunn]

Well, for anyone interested, I uploaded a new shipset (well an old shipset, I just rerendered it) to my website. Anyone who hung around on the old SEc forums might remember it, it is my originall turians.

[trooper]

ZeroAdunn, Your turian race is now on the racelist.
There is some problems that must be solved to make the race useable : some portrait files are called "protrait", sothey won't work in SE IV...

The general.txt comes from the breen race (the breen name is written on the first line).

What about the old turian commonwealth race ? I've been unable to find it ?

About the Galactic command : I only believe what I see, you can call me Saint Thomas...

About pyrochette : the race has been created by Yith Saulker and is included in the TDM modpack, isn't it ?

[dogscoff]

Trooper, the racedir lists the Ur-quan as "Last seen on Usy and TdM. No link known". I have them on my HD. I also have the Chaos Legion.

Would the zips be useful to you? I've been through the rest of the list and can't help with any more of your "unknowns".

Finally, an appeal to everyone else for the sake of my own (more limited) race dir:

I'm aware that the Adamant mod, Blackstar Nexus, Chillian, pirates, moonbeams and Pandorans need to be added to the list of neo-standard sets and mods (http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/neostandlist.htm), but otherwise, if you you have a neo-standard compliant shipset or mod that isn't listed on this site (http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/neostandlist.htm), please let me know. I'm updating soon and would like to catch everyone. Thanks.

[trooper]

you should have a look on the Last column of the racedir. I saw some shipset with neostandard images and write it there. Maybe some of them are not in your current list.

I think I have these races, but keep them on your HD, I can be wrong...

[Fyron]

Dogscoff, you should probably change the location of the Ultimate Mod on that page, as se.org is kinda dead. Also, it isn't really a massive mod. B5 Mod, Proportions, P&N, Devnull, etc. have more modifications than the Ultimate Mod does (esp. the B5 Mod, with comps file of over 4 MBs! and lots of races in it), so having its description say it is "absolutely massive" is a misnomer.

[AJC]

My mount mod can be inserted into any mod, the AI uses all of the mounts without changing the AIs.

AJC

[Atrocities]

I found the thread that Shapeshifter posted regarding his Wing Commander sets.

Originally posted by Shapeshifter:
Thanks for your replys,I have changed the backround for the victory light carrier now it should appear better.
About some pictures that have a bit black around the edges,this is made by using differend light effects of my graphic program i liked the shadow and darker look of the ships edges,I have also included Captain Blair as racial pic .

Here is my web page for an preview of the shipset the link has changed since Last time,and i have also included an download link on the webpage for the shipset zip file:

http://www.geocities.com/shapeshifter1232003/wcc.htm

here is the shipset download link from shrapnel:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1041892475.zip<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thread Link => http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=007797

[dogscoff]

Dogscoff, you should probably change the location of the Ultimate Mod on that page, as se.org is kinda dead. Also, it isn't really a massive mod.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, you're right. I never even knew much about it when it was alive, but now...


you should have a look on the Last column of the racedir. I saw some shipset with neostandard images and write it there. Maybe some of them are not in your current list.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I did go through it thanks. In fact, thanks for the whole race dir and shipset-rehoming project. It's a massive task, and you've done an excellent job.


I think I have these races, but keep them on your HD, I can be wrong...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OK. They aren't going anywhere from my HD.

[ZeroAdunn]

Trooper: Thanks for the heads up on the missnaming, you know, three other people looked at it before I released it, nobody said anything http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

As for the breen General file, yah, I just grabbed the first file I saw.

[Atrocities]

Evil Jim did both a Confed and a Kilrathi Wing Commander ship set. His home page is http://www.eviljim.org were you can download his complete Wing Commander sets.

http://eviljim.org/WingCommander_Race_Set_Ver_.3.zip
http://eviljim.org/Kilrathi_.2.zip

Anther Download

Here is the thread:
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=006276#000012

http://eviljim.org/Confed_Sample_2.jpg

[dogscoff]

Trooper- the link to the leonine set on the list links to the house of dugel set.

[ April 23, 2003, 09:08: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

[Fyron]

Trooper:
I sent an email to the address linked on SOTAS' links page, but it bounced back. You should probably update it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Dogscoff:
I did not mean to remove the Ultimate Mod from the page, just the link to SE.org (and maybe revise the description). I am sure that you could find the mod upload somewhere here on Shrapnel, or someone else could upload it that has it. At least, the Last beta Version that was released.

[ April 23, 2003, 09:20: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[dogscoff]

Dogscoff:
I did not mean to remove the Ultimate Mod from the page, just the link to SE.org (and maybe revise the description). I am sure that you could find the mod upload somewhere here on Shrapnel, or someone else could upload it that has it. At least, the Last beta Version that was released.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">To be honest I'm not sure it was ever even released in the first place. It always seemed to be in a state of permanent development, promising more and more magnificent things with each dramatic re-design of the website. If I'm wrong and there actually is a released Version with people out there using it, I'll be happy to put it back up.

Anyone?

[trooper]

ZeroAdunn : updated my list for the new turians. what about g, old turians, pyrochette (see below) ?

Dogscoff : don't miss the hevordah hive and new Version of Taera in your list.
Atrocities'Pandorans are available here : http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newuploads/1048826908.zip (the link on your page is down).

Don't thank me now, there is still work to be done...

Atrocities : thanks for the info, I updted the list for the confed.

Fyron : the false email address was an intelligence test http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif ... As many people seems to have pb with coded addresses, I've changed them on the site.

[ April 23, 2003, 11:06: Message edited by: trooper ]

[dogscoff]

Thanks T, I'll make those changes tonight.

Just out of interest, do you (or anyone else) have all of those races installed on your HD at once? That would be impressive.

I currently have 132 races installed, totalling >300 meg!

[ZeroAdunn]

You are correct about the Pyrochette, however, there were three Versions, there was one with a different race portrait, and another that was gray instead of brown/tan.

I do have a tendancy to label things protrait for some reason, I don't know why I do that....

Anyways, the Galactic Command (G) is gone. I no longer have the finished shipset, nor do I care to pull the files out of storage and rerender them.

The old turians to which you reffer is actually the new turians, the ones I uploaded recently were the old turians, I labeled the other shipsets turians simply for lack of a better name. The ships you ask about though are being used as the basis for another shipset though, so they will be rerealesed sometime in the future.

[ April 23, 2003, 21:41: Message edited by: ZeroAdunn ]

[ZeroAdunn]

Yes, the "Ultimate Mod" was never released, just a "Preview" If the Ultimate mod had everything Hadrian said it was going to have, then yes, it was probably the Ultimate mod, if it just continued in the form of the Preview, then it was far from ultimate.

[Fyron]

Just out of interest, do you (or anyone else) have all of those races installed on your HD at once? That would be impressive. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I only have 137 installed in my Gold Version.

[Taera]

Hadrian had nearly completed the UM, IIRC it had been in a state of polishing. What slowed him down was the need to develop new racesets, scenarios and other nice things to have in a mod.

[dogscoff]

I found a race missed off the race dir: Phoenix-D's Cluk Ruk Protectorate. It might be named after a neutral empire, but it is a full and original race, and a really good one at that.
http://seiv.pbw.cc/Download/filelib/470/Cluk-Ruk.zip

Actually, that makes 133 races installed - I didn't count this one because it is in my pictures/raceneutral folder.

*dogscoff hurriedly downloads another half-dozen races just to top Fyron http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[trooper]

Thanks dogscogff, I 've asled phoenix D to host it, that way it will gain notoriety.

I have many shipset on my HD indeed, but i would be unable to tell how many (about 70, I think). Everything is mixed in several Versions of SE IV or in external folders, or it's still in zip format. It's a real mess. I'll have to create a CD with all that stuff clearly arranged one day.

So I don't own all the shipsets that are previewed on the racedir; Andres have sent me many preview pics I was unable to find, and I grab some directly from the zip file without copying it to my computer.

I have in project to get all shipsets on a cd, to prevent them from disapearing when a site close (the death of SE.org has given me a lot of work to find all shipsets that were available on it).
But it's a huge and neverending task, as a new shipset or new Version of a old one comes out every week.

ZeroAdunn : about turians : COMWEALTH and TURIAN are the same race, you confirm ? I will change that on the racedir.

About "protrait" : Maybe the first signs of dyslexie ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I'm used to writing "thaht" instead of "that", I don't know why too.

Anyone else owns this mysterious "G" race ? (I've got to ask to my Last hope, Andres; he's going to hate me, being sollicited every two days for another shipset) Well, I'll have to put the "L.I.A." status on it. One more I couldn't save from oblivion...

[dogscoff]

Thanks dogscogff, I 've asled phoenix D to host it, that way it will gain notoriety.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Could you also ask him (assuming he's not reading this himself) to change the smallsatellite.bmp to satellitesmall.bmp (same with the large one)- that will bring his set into line with the ++ standard and the change I've asked PvK to make to Proportions. Sooner or later I'll get round to requesting the same change of all mods.

Oh, and if Phoenix-D isn't able to host the ClukRuk himself, I'd be honoured to have them on my site.

[trooper]

well, if you want to host it, no pb for me, ask him yourself and tell him to ignore my Last message. (send a private message, I don't have the email address)

If I could change something on the cluk-ruk, it would be the tiny transport : it has the same size as the small transport, it just have to be resized to be OK.

[Phoenix-D]

"I found a race missed off the race dir: Phoenix-D's Cluk Ruk Protectorate. It might be named after a neutral empire, but it is a full and original race, and a really good one at that.
http://seiv.pbw.cc/Download/filelib/470/Cluk-Ruk.zip" (http://seiv.pbw.cc/Download/filelib/470/Cluk-Ruk.zip)

Thanks, but..

"Actually, that makes 133 races installed - I didn't count this one because it is in my pictures/raceneutral folder."

Wait. You put the pictures in the NEUTRAL directory? Ah well, that's what I get for not making an AI. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Anyone's welcome to host it if they want. I may look at revising the set later, but not at the moment (my bryce skills have gotten rusty, heh)

Phoenix-D

[dogscoff]

Wait. You put the pictures in the NEUTRAL directory? Ah well, that's what I get for not
making an AI.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah. Well, like you say, it has no AI. Also, I didn't want to have the situation where the Clukruk neutrals and the Clukruk regulars appeared on the same map. I could have removed them from the neutrals but I have precious few of those anyway. So I moved your set into there.

They are in one of my proportions games right now and they are looking very very cool.


Anyone's welcome to host it if they want. I may look at revising the set later, but not at the moment (my bryce skills have gotten rusty, heh)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In that case, I'll host them. It's a great set that deserves a place in the sun. Do you mind if I rename the sats as I suggested? It will probably mean they get more exposure.

EDIT: Over 150 races installed now, Fyron. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ April 24, 2003, 16:26: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

[Phoenix-D]

Yeah, go ahead and change the names if you want.

First explain to me why the change was made- did I goof or did you change the standard on me? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Phoenix-D

[Fyron]

Sooner or later I'll get round to requesting the same change of all mods.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There is at least 1 mod you don't have to worry about. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

EDIT: Over 150 races installed now, Fyron. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have a lot of races installed in regular SE4 that I never found Gold Versions for and was too lazy to convert to Gold myself... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Trooper:
I am using the Race Dir page to get more shipsets. I click on a link to go find the set for download. When I hit back, it takes me back to the main SOTAS page and not to the Race Dir page. I don't know why it is doing that, but it is annoying. Any way you could fix it?

Also, can you eliminate all links to Shrapnel uploads pages, and replace them with direct links to the files? I could not find the Brachyura or Corrian set from those links....

Could you please remove the read-only attributes of all ship sets hosted on SOTAS, such as the Federal Union? There is no reason for them to have that attribute, and it makes downloading a new Version more difficult than necessary.

You missed the Kobaia shipset, which is in the PBW file library.

The Nloam sample pic is missing the smiley next to it indicating it has a preview page on SOTAS.

The page for the Nu'Wam Partnership has no images, nor a download link.

The Vasudan set is on this page, not where you have it linked: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/000017-5.html

[ April 24, 2003, 20:38: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Fyron]

DS:
200 races now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[dogscoff]

Yeah, go ahead and change the names if you want.

First explain to me why the change was made- did I goof or did you change the standard on me?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">THere was no standard for additional sat images when you made the set- you were the first.

Now there is mlmbd's ++ standard which includes the extra sats but names them differently to the way you did. He's already released (at least) 2 compatible sets, and I'm working on a third.

ALl we have to do now is get modders to alter their mods to use the images- just have satellitesmall, satellitemedium, satellitelarge sat as the primary image and satellite as the secondary for all of them. THat way the mod stays fully backward-compatible but supports extra images. The same thing can be done for mines and drones.

Fyron: Curses!

[Pax]

Hey, Trooper -- I just ran afoul of a bad link in the Directory.

Y'see, I got ALL excited when I read that there was a "Dark Pyrochette" ... I rather like the Pyrochette ships, and the thought of a DARKER set like that, well ... let's just say, I wasted no time rushing over and downloading it.

Unfortunately, the link doesn't point to the DARK Pyrochette, but rather, to the NORMAL Pyrochette.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Look for yourself, the two links you have for Pyrochette at SGIF are the same.

Hopefully someone can point you (and, therefor, ME) to the right place to get the Dark Pyrochette. I really want them, especially as I'm getting more and more into playing team games ... and being able to have myself and my partner use the same basic shipset, just in different colors, would be QUITE nice, IMO. 8)

BTW, in general -- I'm glad to see you're making a home for those shipsets that had become un-hosted. It'd be a shame to see the diversity of SE4 shipsets start to decline ...

[dogscoff]

Phoenix-D's Clukruk republic is now hosted at my website:

http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/clukruk.htm

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
DS:
200 races now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My god! How high do you think it will go?

This game amazes me. Here it is well past two years since it release and it is still going strong. Thank you MOO3. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[General Woundwort]

Originally posted by dogscoff:
Phoenix-D's Clukruk republic is now hosted at my website:<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good. Now go finish the KanesS why don't you... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[dogscoff]

Good. Now go finish the KanesS why don't you...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Working on it now. I think I've just finished up the Last of my "pixels for hire" race portraits too, so I have no other distractions.

Well, almost no distractions...

Anyway, I just posted a bunch of new pics today. Once I've done small weapons platform (working on it now) there will be enough images to start a game using the KanesS and not see any generic images at all.

http://www.sandman43.fsnet.co.uk/KanesS.htm

[trooper]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

>>Trooper:
>>I am using the Race Dir page to get more shipsets. I click on a link to go find the set for download. When I hit back, it takes me back to the main SOTAS page and not to the Race Dir page. I don't know why it is doing that, but it is annoying. Any way you could fix it?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dunno. As there is a "target="new" attribute on the links, a new window should be opened when you click on a link.



>>Also, can you eliminate all links to Shrapnel uploads pages, and replace them with direct links to the files? I could not find the Brachyura or Corrian set from those links....

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If someone give me the good links. (no time for that at the moment).


>>Could you please remove the read-only attributes of all ship sets hosted on SOTAS, such as the Federal Union? There is no reason for them to have that attribute, and it makes downloading a new Version more difficult than necessary.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Maybe, need a few time for that.


>>You missed the Kobaia shipset, which is in the PBW file library.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Link ? (can't find it)


>>The Nloam sample pic is missing the smiley next to it indicating it has a preview page on SOTAS.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">maniac ! it's done now.


>>The page for the Nu'Wam Partnership has no images, nor a download link.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">See with katchoo, he owns the page...


>>The Vasudan set is on this page, not where you have it linked: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/000017-5.html[/qb]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">will correct that soon, thanks.
[/QUOTE]

PS : as you seem to have lot of shipsets on your HD, I'm going to annoy you next time I'll be looking for one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

sorry for the quick answers, I've got urgent things to do !

[ April 27, 2003, 08:21: Message edited by: trooper ]

[trooper]

Fyron : Kobaia is a clone of Aquilians, nethertheless I've added them, just for info.

- corrected the link on Vasudian.

- Added the "kobol" from PBW.

-Warned Katchoo for Nu'Wan pb.

- Still don't understand your browsing pb, what navigator do you use (I DON'T support Netscape) ?.

Dogscoff : also added Clukruk republic

Pax :


BTW, in general -- I'm glad to see you're making a home for those shipsets that had become un-hosted. It'd be a shame to see the diversity of SE4 shipsets start to decline ...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's exaclty my way of thinking. But time is fighting against me, it's very hard to find some shipsets indeed.

Dark pyrochette is an example : unable to find it at the moment (Andres, Fyron... ?)

If you want to play in teams with the same race in different colors , I would suggest you use Jraenar stock race, it exists in four colors.(see Green Yellow, Orange, Purple Lizards). Or you can create your own fleet.

ZeroAdunn : finally got the modified G race from Andres. With a light race portrait (I saw a lot of them in zip files recently, who owns the rights ?), it could make a suitable race ("white and pure" concept, or neutral race). May I host it ?

[trooper]

Good news for you, Pax : the Dark Pyrochette is now available on SOTAS : http://diesel2035.free.fr/hosted/pyrochettedark

Some resize work has been done on the pics, because they all have the same size in the original Version. Author remains unknown.

A big thanks to Andres for the original race he've sent to me.

If if you have other shipset requests, you can try your luck here.

[Q]

Trooper thank you again for your excellent and huge work. I thought I had already most races but thank to your work I realized how many more are out there and where I could get them.

[Lord Kodos]

Dont forget to add the Azlokians to your list ^_^

I geuss if its okay with Hugh, you can host them too, if you wanted.

[Pax]

Originally posted by trooper:
Good news for you, Pax : the Dark Pyrochette is now available on SOTAS : http://diesel2035.free.fr/hosted/pyrochettedark<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thank you! thank you thank you thank you!

Okay, those ships aren't identical to the standard Pyrochette, but they're very very close. 8)

Now, if I can figure a way to take THOSE fairly monochrome ships, and just tweak the palletes, I might be able to have a whole set of "same ships, different colors" shipsets. Whee!

[trooper]

Originally posted by dogscoff:
Trooper, the racedir lists the Ur-quan as "Last seen on Usy and TdM. No link known". I have them on my HD. I also have the Chaos Legion.

Would the zips be useful to you? I've been through the rest of the list and can't help with any more of your "unknowns".

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dogscoff, it seems I don't have Ur-quan...

About chaos, is it the atraikius Version hosted on SOTAS ? if no, I would like to have a look on it too...

[Kamog]

That's an excellent site, Trooper. (State of the Art Spaceyards)
Everytime I go there, there's a few more races added to it! Most of them I have never seen before. Very nice work.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Fyron]

Dunno. As there is a "target="new" attribute on the links, a new window should be opened when you click on a link <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You need a _ in front of new. It should be "Target="_new"". Otherwise, it can confuse IE, as it looks for an existing frame named new. When it fails to find it, it makes a new frame in a new window. The "_" tells the browser that this will definitely be a new frame, not an existing one. This might be what causes the problem. Or it could be something else.

The Pyrochette were a race on the SE Universe Ladder run by Grand Mausic Yith Saulkar. I am fairly certain that Yith Saulkar (take out his title) was the author of the Dark Pyrochette set.

[ May 11, 2003, 01:25: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[trooper]

Originally posted by Kamog:
That's an excellent site, Trooper. (State of the Art Spaceyards)
Everytime I go there, there's a few more races added to it! Most of them I have never seen before. Very nice work.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks !
If you haven't seen them before, maybe it's because I'm looking for races that can't be found anywhere indeed...

I've added lot of stuff in the latest weeks, but I'll have to slow down now, because I'm going back to work, after seven months being unemployed. So there will be less "new" material on the site. My current priority is to complete the starship race.

Fyron : I had forgotten about the "target="_new" attribute when I made the race dir, but it would be an interesting feature to set, with an automatic replacement method, of course (about 250 links to update...) !

Dogscoff : Can you send me Ur-quan, please ?

Recent shipset authors : By the way, is there any new shipset I could have missed in the racedir ?

[Andrés]

Originally posted by Pax:
Okay, those ships aren't identical to the standard Pyrochette, but they're very very close. 8)

Now, if I can figure a way to take THOSE fairly monochrome ships, and just tweak the palletes, I might be able to have a whole set of "same ships, different colors" shipsets. Whee!<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's vary easy to apply a hue and saturation filter to all pictures in a shipset, or a gamma correction filter for those that are too dark if you have the apropiate software.

[Pax]

Originally posted by Andres:
It's vary easy to apply a hue and saturation filter to all pictures in a shipset, or a gamma correction filter for those that are too dark if you have the apropiate software.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have MS Paint.

And that's -all- I have ... relatively speaking, I'm poor.

[Lord Kodos]

lol same here MS paint only..

[Master Belisarius]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
[QUOTE]I am fairly certain that Yith Saulkar (take out his title) was the author of the Dark Pyrochette set.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hugh. I never knew that Yith did the Dark Pyrochette, and in fact, I knew the Dark Pyrochette only a few months ago.

Edit: but yes, the pictures looks like the Pyrochette ships but not identical, then, think probably they were done by Joel Joines.

[ May 12, 2003, 01:39: Message edited by: Master Belisarius ]

[Fyron]

MB:
Similar reasoning is what led me to that conclusion, not any knowledge that he made it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Fyron : I had forgotten about the "target="_new" attribute when I made the race dir, but it would be an interesting feature to set, with an automatic replacement method, of course (about 250 links to update...) ! <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You can set a base target for the whole page. I think that you use it like this:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">&lt;body&gt;
&lt;base target=&quot;_new&quot;&gt;

&lt;p&gt;blah blah blah&lt;/p&gt; </pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This will make all a tags have a target of _new if there is no target listed, so you can do a replace all to get rid of the target="new" tags and add the base target. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Pax:
There are a number of free graphics editors out there. One example is http://www.openoffice.org/, which is a free, open source suite like MS Office. It has Versions of Word, Excel, Power Point, and the graphics programs that MS Office comes with (though I think they are designed better, as MS is not good at graphics http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).

[ May 12, 2003, 02:06: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]