PBW status

[Fyron]

I can go to the forum for a particular game directly from that game's description page without problem. It is trying to get to the general forums from the Community Page that is the problem. I do not have an non-standard security options enabled for Firefox.

[Roanon]

Strange. Did you try to clear the Cache / cookies?

[Karibu]

I use Firefox also and PBW site works perfectly in every way for me. Have you tried reinstalling it, Fyron?

[AMF]

Are autoruns going to be turned on soon? I am leaving for a few days and I was hoping that the games I host would still run on time in my absence...

thanks,

Alarik

[Roanon]

Good idea. PBW seems to be fairly stable now. Geo?

[Slynky]

Originally posted by Roanon:
Good idea. PBW seems to be fairly stable now. Geo? <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not for me this morning. Can't get in.

[Randallw]

I second the motion.

[Slynky]

Now, she's back http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[geoschmo]

I was just doing a little maitenance this morning Slynky.

I am doing some work on it this morning. There might be some brief outages. If everything goes well though I will turn auto turns back on this afternoon.

Geoschmo

[Mark the Merciful]

Did everything go well? I'm getting.

Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, admin@pbw.cc and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

[Andrés]

I got some of those Internal Server Errors about 15 mins ago, but it seems to be working again now.

[geoschmo]

The server has been up, but I've been running defrag all day and it's probably sapping the resources or something. Should be done in not too much longer.

[Roanon]

No problems here. Probably just Geo still making some live maintenance. Give him a minute or two...

EDIT: there are far too many people reading and fast posting here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ June 23, 2004, 18:11: Message edited by: Roanon ]

[geoschmo]

Auto turns are back on now.

[crackerjackhacker]

I just wanted to get it straight that I have no affiliation with littlecrackwhore and they are totally out of control. They obvioulsy are playing off my user id and the joke about how you got your user id, no real disrespect was intended, I'm just an admirer of your engenious skills and wanted to know more about you. Please do not ban me from the forum,

[Arkcon]

Hey there, I'm having some tiny hiccups with the PBW server, no biggie, I sent my turns via email. When I try to send or recieve turns, I get a javascript dialog. It's probably just 'cause my isp is slow these days, thats been happening a lot lately. I felt like mentioning it because I hoped it had nothing to do with this {SANS report} (http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?date=2004-06-25)

[Captain Kwok]

I also had a wierd incident with PBW. I declared a couple of empires dead in the SE Galaxies Aldan game and that went fine and it showed them as dead, yet today when I checked they were not dead and the related log entries vanished...

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Captain Kwok:
I also had a wierd incident with PBW. I declared a couple of empires dead in the SE Galaxies Aldan game and that went fine and it showed them as dead, yet today when I checked they were not dead and the related log entries vanished... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, that's a code bug. We had it fixed, but when I restored the old code the other day it wiped it out. Until I get it fixed again the workaround is to mark them dead then go to the game admin screen and hit update options. You don't need to change options, just hit the update button.

[geoschmo]

Sunday July 4th, 10:27 PM Est. Have to take the server down for a bit for some maintenance. Shouldn't be too long. I will update you here if anyone is up. Sunday's typically a pretty slow night.


Geoschmo

[Slynky]

Yeah, I just hit it and came up empty but, like you said, slow night. I was only checking.

[geoschmo]

Ok, we are back up for now. I will be taking it back down either tonight or tommorow AM. Until then you are good to go.

[geoschmo]

Back up

[geoschmo]

Ok, I am going out of town for a week and a half. While I am gone the PBW server will remain operational, hopefully. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Georgig and Tesco have access to the server remotely and can do a lot to recover if there is a problem that's not to serious. However, there is the posibility of an ISP or power problem or some kind of hardware issue that they will not be able to do anything about. If something like that happens unfortunatly it's going to have to wait till I return on the 14th.

I have turned off the PBW auto-processing in case there is a problem. Turns will run if all are uploaded, and the game owner or a PBW admin can force the turn to run as well. But turns will not run simply because the time limit has been reached.

If you need to reach them send an email to admin@pbw.cc. I will NOT be checking email while I'm gone.

Good luck. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Geoschmo

[geoschmo]

8:25 AM EST. Taking system down for maintenance.

[Joachim]

Down? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Slynky]

Down for me, too.

[Roanon]

Definitely down

[Ragnarok-X]

doh and i was just going to download all the turns and play them (i usually wait till 3 or 4 turns for games are ready instead of just downloading one and the next 2 hours later...)

damn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Cipher7071]

10:12 EDT, still down.

[Thermodyne]

Ya it dies after Road Runners srp1. router.

[FLX]

Up & working right now

[geoschmo]

Sorry about that. Not sure what happened but I rebooted it now and it's working.

[Ragnarok-X]

thanks for the fast service geoschmo !

[AMF]

Most of the day today, the grpahics side of the PBW site (as opposed to the text side) has not been loading for me. Anyone else having similiar troubles?

Thx,
Alarik

[Slynky]

Originally posted by alarikf:
Most of the day today, the grpahics side of the PBW site (as opposed to the text side) has not been loading for me. Anyone else having similiar troubles?

Thx,
Alarik <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I always use the graphic side and I just went there and it worked fine.

[astruskustuvas]

i get this error when try to accept player. Can i fix it somehow or this is only admins work?

Error: 500
Location: /GameAdmin
Internal Servlet Error:

java.lang.NullPointerException
at cc.dpf.pbw.servlet.seiv.GameAdmin.processRequest(G ameAdmin.java:871)
at cc.dpf.pbw.servlet.seiv.GameAdmin.doGet(GameAdmin. java:962)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java:740)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java:853)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ServletWrapper.doService(Se rvletWrapper.java:405)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.Handler.service(Handler.jav a:287)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ServletWrapper.service(Serv letWrapper.java:372)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.internalServ ice(ContextManager.java:797)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.service(Cont extManager.java:743)
at org.apache.tomcat.service.connector.Ajp13Connectio nHandler.processConnection(Ajp13ConnectionHandler. java:160)
at org.apache.tomcat.service.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(Po olTcpEndpoint.java:416)
at org.apache.tomcat.util.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable. run(ThreadPool.java:501)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

[ July 22, 2004, 01:33: Message edited by: astruskustuvas ]

[astruskustuvas]

hmm still get same error....game Star Wars II Mod Game....player Tnarg i hope you help me in this..we are about to start this game

[geoschmo]

No problem on the server. Are you using Explorer or something else. Perhaps it's some sort of browser problem. Maybe you have your sercurity set to block the javascript stuff? I'm just guessing here. Did you try the text UI or graphic or both?

I clicked the accept for you so Tnarg is in the game now. If it happens again we can try testing a bit more and narrow down what's causing it for you specifically.

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by astruskustuvas:
i get this error when try to accept player. Can i fix it somehow or this is only admins work?

Error: 500
...<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not aware of any problems. Might have been a temporary glitch. If you still can't accept the player then give me some more details. What game, what player, etc.

[astruskustuvas]

thanx geoschmo you are best http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Fyron]

Problems like this generally arise from not using Internet Exploder, which PBW was designed for. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Even when disabling all security settings, I have never been able to get the Accept/Kick/Finish buttons to work in Mozilla Firefox. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif Probably shouldn't discuss this further in this thread, so as not to clutter it up. Just posting confirmation that this is an on-going issue...

[Asmala]

Strange, I'm using Mozilla Firefox and there aren't problems with Accept/Kick/Finish buttons.

[Fyron]

Really? I have not been able to use them since way back when the browser had a cool name (Phoenix, 0.7 or so). :-\

[Loser]

I can't upload my turn to NGC5.
Is anyone else having a problem?

[edit: Nevermind, looks like it was a problem with my system. I was able to send it in from another computer on my network.]

[ July 29, 2004, 18:55: Message edited by: Loser ]

[Loser]

In what may be an unrelated note, I am now unable to access PbW from any computer on my network. Additionally, the NCG5 game should have cranked, to my understanding, some thrity minutes ago, and I have not received an e-mail announcing the new turn.

I'm guessing PbW is down. Can anyone confirm/denounce this?

[Jmyers2043]

site must be down. Says "The page cannot be displayed"

[AMF]

down for me at 10:00 PM, EST.

[Slynky]

Originally posted by alarikf:
down for me at 10:00 PM, EST. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Same for me, my young friend.

[mac5732]

tried to connect tonight 10:30 pm, stated connection to pbw was refused??????? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[AMF]

Originally posted by Slynky:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by alarikf:
down for me at 10:00 PM, EST. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Same for me, my young friend. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">"young"? Well, I guess it's all relative...I'll be 36 soon...I just haven't thought of that as "young" for a while now...

[Loser]

Originally posted by mac5732:
tried to connect tonight 10:30 pm, stated connection to pbw was refused??????? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">"refused"?

Sounds like your . . . thing with which you tried to connect has trouble interpreting the specifics of a rejection.

"Did she mean 'No, not ever.' or just 'No, not right now. My hand is stuck in a can of Pringles, so I'm a little busy right now'?"

[Gandalph]

8:00pm in Santa Cruz, CA.

I tried, without success, to connect to PBW. I have been busy the Last couple of weeks, so my oppurtunities have been few. Tonight, I try to catch up on my games, even made a commitment to myself, but I get a "page cannot be displayed" error.
I guess the gist of this message is, if I have been slow in some of my games, please forgive me, I have been occupied. Never-the-less, understand that I have tried and not always been successful.
Gandalph

[Grandpa Kim]

Yup, down for me too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Tanus]

Still down http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[parabolize]

Originally posted by Gandalph:
8:00pm in Santa Cruz, CA.

I tried, without success, to connect to PBW. I have been busy the Last couple of weeks, so my oppurtunities have been few. Tonight, I try to catch up on my games, even made a commitment to myself, but I get a "page cannot be displayed" error.
I guess the gist of this message is, if I have been slow in some of my games, please forgive me, I have been occupied. Never-the-less, understand that I have tried and not always been successful.
Gandalph <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Its OK. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
I am just angry it happend when all are fleets are on the move. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[LonghornXtreme]

Hopefully it will all get fixed sometime soon... I was about to start some really fun stuff in two of my games! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Kana]

Still down.

8:04 am US Mountain Time

Kana

[Ragnarok-X]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[Ragnarok]

This is bad...the twitching has already begun. Usually this does not happen until at least 1 full day of being down...

[AMF]

Twitching, you say? Hmmmm....sounds like you've got a big turn coming up...I must go check to see if you're about to schmack me in any of the games I'm in...


Originally posted by Ragnarok:
This is bad...the twitching has already begun. Usually this does not happen until at least 1 full day of being down... <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">

[Toro]

Anyone know why the site is down??

[Ragnarok]

I think this might be an ISP problem perhaps. Anyone else notice Geo hasn't been around here today? No updates as to why the server is down, etc. He probably does not have access to the net at all, thus why PBW is down. Just a thought.

[Ruatha]

Oh am I glad that it's down!!

I've been trying my new program (the much talked about but seldom seen Companion) at the Win NT machines at work and the program can't access the PBW site, I started thinking perhaps I've failed in programming the proxy settings... Now atleast I'll have some respite before I realize that it sucks!
And as I'm at work I can't play PBW anyway so it's ok by me that it's down (a bit egoistic I know!)

[geoschmo]

One bad thing about me being in so few games is sometimes I don't even notice when the server is down. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

I've just been doing other things Last night and this morning and just now found out we had a problem. Sorry about that guys. Should be back up and running now. I don't think any turns ran, but I'm not positive of that. If you miss your turn you can talk to your game owner about getting the turn set back.

Geoschmo

Geoschmo

[Ragnarok]

Yay! It is back and none of my turns ran so that is good. Thanks Geo, you are the best!

[Loser]

Well, NGC5 ran but it looks like only one person, Stellar, missed their turn.

[FLX]

14:10, Seville. Still down, hope they turn off auto-turn proccessing

[geoschmo]

Got to take teh server down for a minute. It'll probably be back up before you read this.

[freduk]

I hope so, I have to upload within 10 minutes http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[Roanon]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Got to take teh server down for a minute. It'll probably be back up before you read this. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No! We are too fast, we notice everything ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[parabolize]

Originally posted by Roanon:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by geoschmo:
Got to take teh server down for a minute. It'll probably be back up before you read this. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No! We are too fast, we notice everything ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">He lies to us! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

[Roanon]

Originally posted by parabolize:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Roanon:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by geoschmo:
Got to take teh server down for a minute. It'll probably be back up before you read this. <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No! We are too fast, we notice everything ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">He lies to us! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, its just a very long minute, so-called Geoschmic minute http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[geoschmo]

Sorry, took a little longer then I planned. But it's up now.

[Gandalph]

7:30 PDT, no PBW.

[Slynky]

I just got in.

[Gandalph]

But of course, I am at work now!

[Slynky]

Originally posted by Gandalph:
But of course, I am at work now! <font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">LOL, isn't that the nature of Murphy?

[Asmala]

Hmm, it seems the PBW server is down. Hopefully it's only temporal...

[Roanon]

Yep, its down.

[Lisif Deoral]

Temporal? I thought it was Psychic!

...

Ok, I'd better crawl back to lurk mode...

[tesco samoa]

Geo had to reboot it.

so it is back up and running

[geoschmo]

Back up now.

[Randallw]

It was only down for 2 hours. I too am glad it was down. I was feeling sick after I didn't pay attention to what I was doing and opened a file that installed a #@$#!@ search bar on my machine. I spent an hout getting rid of it and PBW was the only site I couldn't get. I thought "It must be a virus that blocks my most visited site"

Edit: Although now I think of it, that would have been this forum. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[geoschmo]

The server will be down for a couple minutes. Should be back before you miss it.

[Roanon]

geoschmo said:Should be back before you miss it.


Sure? Wanna bet? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[geoschmo]

Ok, back up now.

[se5a]

RTC is no longer conneecting for me...
it just says "cant connect to server"


EDIT: NM its working now.

[Grandpa Kim]

The planned move of the server to Tesco, is that still in the works? Just curious.

[geoschmo]

Taking the server down for a few minutes for some maintenance.

Yes, the server move to Tesco is still in progress. Probably in the next couple weeks if all goes according to plan. We have a temporary backup server though so there should be no extended downtime.

[geoschmo]

Update, ok, this is going to take a little longer then I planned. The server will be down for about an hour. Should be backup by around 9:30 Est. Sorry for the inconveinence.

Geoschmo

[tesco samoa]

right at the window of catch up on pbw games http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/redface.gif sorry game owners... i have another 30 minutes tonight again.

[Thermodyne]

So much for doing turns before I go out.

[geoschmo]

Ok, should be back up now.

[geoschmo]

Taking the server down for some maintenance. Maybe a couple hours this time. Sunday is usually a slow day so hopefully it won't be too much trouble for anyone. I will turn auto turns off when I bring the server back up so noone misses a turn.

[Colonel]

I almost got scared when it wouldnt work anyways GREAT JOB with the PBW thing thats a great thing it works great http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[geoschmo]

Ok, servers back up. SHold be ok for the next few hours. Tonight I'll have to take it back down again, but in the mean time you can use it.

Auto turns are off. I'll let you know when I turn them back on.

[geoschmo]

Ok taking it down again. Not sure for how long exactly.

[geoschmo]

Ok back up now. Auto turns still off.

[Ragnarok]

When will auto turns be turned back on, Geo?

[Alneyan]

I cannot access PBW; could someone please confirm it is linked with my computer rather than with PBW? (I get the site, but it keeps on loading without displaying much) Thanks.

[Ragnarok]

Everything is loading perfectly fine for me here.

[Roanon]

No problems here too. I guess it is a bad connection.

[Alneyan]

I thought so. Does PBW use any kind of special port? There has been no changes to software, so the problem doesn't come from there. However, the router might have come alive again, and my ISP is no longer the same (my ISP is Cegetel, in case a "wide" ban has been set up over this domain).

[Roanon]

Do you use seiv.pbw.cc or are your trying to access by IP adress, maybe using an outdated one? If you try to access the graphic Version, does the text Version work probably?

[Alneyan]

I use seiv.pbw.cc. Using the IP does not work either. I am using the text Version, and cannot access the graphical Version.

Pinging PBW brings a timeout as well, whereas pinging another site works fine (with a response time under 200 ms).

[Roanon]

Veeeerrrryyyy strange. Pinging should work for sure. Maybe your ISP does not like .cc? Can you reach www.enic.cc (http://www.enic.cc)? You didn't try www.seiv.pbw.cc (http://www.seiv.pbw.cc) by accident, or your browser tried to "help" by inserting www.?

[Alneyan]

The URL is correct, and there was no www inserted (either by mistake or because of a "friendly" browser). The link you gave has the same symptom as PBW; however, www.trillian.cc (http://www.trillian.cc) works fine. Trillian may be hosted on another "physical" domain though.

In both cases, Firefox manages to connect and tells me to wait while it waits for the server. The page is then loaded for ten minutes or so, before Firefox stops without giving any kind of error message.

I guess it is something about my ISP and this domain; hopefully a temporary glitch rather than a more annoying problem.

[geoschmo]

Alneayn, have you tried it with anowther browser? Do you have IE on that computer? Have you tried the text as well as the graphic UI? It may be a browser issue instead of any kind of ISP thing.

[geoschmo]

Ok, auto turns are back on.

[Alneyan]

My browser did not change, and worked fine under both my previous DSL ISP, and my backup modem. IE does not work either , and Navigator results in the same problem as my trusted Firefox. I do not have any direct link to the graphic Version, and so cannot try this one (I use the text-based Version).

Interestingly, removing my cookies enabled me to get an error message when attempting to reach my game list (logically enough; but PBW worked there). Likewise, the other computer (that has never been touched by PBW), connects to PBW without a glitch.

How are you supposed to send your turn by email? I have tried just attaching the plr file to the mail as a reply, but it doesn't seem to work. Or has this feature been the cause for PBW downfalls, and is disabled because of this?

[Ruatha]

The send mail function has been disable a loong time, have you tried using the SE4 Companion?

[Alneyan]

The Companion does not seem to be able to connect to PBW either (the programme hangs up while attempting to connect to PBW).

Other possible problems: I am using Windows XP (*Sigh*), but its firewall has been disabled, destroyed, slaughtered, desactivated, and finally beaten to death before being totemised. No other firewall is present on the host computer. All services for my shared connection are also enabled, as XP is known to be a jester and randomly disables these useless things (such as HTTP or mail; who needs these?) when it strikes its fancy.

Edit: Now it works! I do not know why, but it works! *Rushes to upload some turns*

[geoschmo]

Taking the server down for a few hours. Should be back up tonight. Auto turns will be off when it comes back up so if you have a turn due in the mean time it won't run without you.

Geoschmo

[Fyron]

Ack. I was just about to upload a plr file. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

[Hippocrates]

Ooooooooh, how evil - went down just as I was hitting the "submit" button http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Thanks for the update, and the continued maintenance.

-Hippo

[Roanon]

Grr - 5 mins before deadline, and I was waiting for the turn do to it before I have to leave tomorrow http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif And as there are a few non-submitters, and no autoturns, I guess I can kiss goodbye the next turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[geoschmo]

Roanon said:
Grr - 5 mins before deadline, and I was waiting for the turn do to it before I have to leave tomorrow http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif And as there are a few non-submitters, and no autoturns, I guess I can kiss goodbye the next turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Well, how long will you be gone? No chance of you getting back before the next turn runs? Which game? Perhaps we can work something out with the game owner?

[Alneyan]

Since I am not sure if Roanon will be able to respond to this thread before leaving, I will answer your more general Queries.

The game in question is NGC4, currently hosted by Tesco (the previous host was Ruatha, but will be away in the weeks to come). I do not know how long he will be gone however, and so cannot say how long ALPU would be needed (if it is needed).

[Roanon]

I'll be unavailable tomorrow noon, i.e. about 12 hours from now, on vaccation for 2 weeks, will be able to organize internet access there but not before tuesday if all goes well, wednesday if it doesn't work as expected. Would be great if I could sumit at least an emergency turn before leaving, otherwise I'll have to ask tesco for ALPU (and hope he will grant it), or miss the turn that will be due tuesday.

[geoschmo]

Ok, server is up. I'm gonna watch things for a few minutes and makes sure everything is working right.

Roanon, I understand what's going on, the problem is with auto turns off there won't be a turn for you to play anytime soon, but if you are already gone when auto turns are back on you'll miss the next turn.

I will touch base with Tesco before I turn auto turns back on. What's the latest you could be available to do a turn tonight or tommorow? Either he'd need to run a turn manually for that, I'd need to turn auto turns back on before you go, or possibly he could put your game on ALPU.

Or I could do a turn or two for you if you need a temporary replacment player.

Geoschmo

[Roanon]

I'll be gone in about 11 hours. Problem with manual processing is that for fairness reasons, opportunity to submit a turn should be given to the 4 still missing players, who could have tried submitting the turn in the Last 6 mins remaining before deadline when the server was switched off. At least Hippocrates was interrupted in the middle of uploading, as already posted. Really bad bad timing - just 10 mins later and everything would have been fine. Bad luck.

NGC is a 20 player game with roughly 250 systems, about half of the players remaining and I own my share of the map plus 1 or 2 systems. Really not the game for a replacement player, he would need hours just to find through.

I guess the turn will be run manually a few seconds after I will have left, counting on my bad luck. If I can't download a copy before leaving so I can do an emergency turn on the weekend and try to get a turn or email into pbw somehow on monday, I will have no chance. I'll email Tesco depending on what will have happend before I leave, switching the game to ALPU for next turn might be an option that could save me.

Too bad, it was planned ahead to work with optimal timimg, now it has turned into maximum disaster timing just because of 6 minutes...

[tesco samoa]

hey you have it uploaded http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[geoschmo]

tesco samoa said:
hey you have it uploaded http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

No, it's not this turn he's concerned about. It's the next turn after this one runs. It would have already run and he could have done his next turn, except for me taking the server down this afternoon, and turning off auto turns when I brought it back up.

[teal]

Thanks for waiting everyone! I tried to upload for NGC4 during the Last six minutes before deadline and of course the server was down. I'm very glad you didn't run the turn without me!

Also, I think that we should not play without Roanon as he is a vital player and very commited to this game in general. It doesn't seem right to mess up his plans due to a weird outage like this.

Teal

[Roanon]

As suspected, I have to leave now and cannot even grab the latest results, as the turn still has not run. This means I will not be able to do anything for NGC4 for a few days. Have sent an email to Tesco, I hope he will let me catch up - I need to do at least an emergency turn with a few adjustments, I haven't prepared for this disaster as I couldn't foresee this.

Maintenance downtime seems to become more frequent now - how about a regular schedule, Geo? This way, everything would be less turbulent, autoturns could be switched back a few hours after downtime if it is announced like 24 hours ago, I think.

[tesco samoa]

well if it is RTV Detrain game. It ran on the 10th. And is scheduled to run on the 12th.

[geoschmo]

Unfortunatly scheduling downtime is difficult for me. I don't always know in advance when I will have time to do what I have to do. On the bright side most of the recent downtime has been leading up to what I was finally able to accomplish yesterday. The primary server is offline and we are running on the backup server. I will be shipping the primary to Tesco now and the only scheduled downtime in the foreseeable future will be when we bring the primary back Online and get it up to date. That probably won't be for a couple weeks. I'll try to give you more advanced warning though.

[geoschmo]

Auto turns are now back on.

[Renegade 13]

So sorry Roanan, and all other NGC4 players...I would have had my turn uploaded long ago, but my internet suddenly decided to die for the past 3 or 4 days. I hate being the Last to upload, and causing (in part) the problem with Roanan. Hopefully it can be resolved, and he can get his turns in when needed.

[Alneyan]

Looks like the "PBW local downfall" problem has come back to haunt me. Is anybody willing to take care of uploading a few turns for me? Not many, just the games screaming for a turn to be uploaded. I trust the problem will resolve itself as previously, but I cannot say for sure. Thanks!

[geoschmo]

Alneyan, I can upload them if you email them to me.

Geoschmo

[Alneyan]

I am dumb; hasn't the email turn feature been enabled a few days ago? I will attempt to upload turns this way, though I would need a confirmation of whether the turn has actually been uploaded.

Edit: Yes, it does work, and simply takes a bit more time. So please disregard my message above. However, I would like if someone could nag me when pressing matters are brought up in the NGC5 forum. If needed, I will also have to figure out a way of accessing Game Admin options while PBW is unavailable for me.

[geoschmo]

Your turn was received and processed. The turn ran sucsesfully about five minutes ago.

You should receive a confirmation email from PBW every time you send in a turn that way, either a "turn processed" or "turn did not process" email. So even if the turn doesn't run right away you should be able to tell that your turn was received. Although it probably takes a few minutes to work through the system and back to your email box.

EDIT: And now I see you edited your post to say that you figured that out already. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Joachim]

AAAArrrghhh I cant undo a turn, keep getting a long error log.

It is in My KOTH game with Asmala.

error message:
Error: 500
Location: /GamePlayer
Internal Servlet Error:

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Null filename to Game.load?
at cc.dpf.pbw.seiv.Game.load(Game.java:508)
at cc.dpf.pbw.servlet.seiv.GamePlayer.processRequest( GamePlayer.java:276)
at cc.dpf.pbw.servlet.seiv.GamePlayer.doGet(GamePlaye r.java:339)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java:740)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java:853)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ServletWrapper.doService(Se rvletWrapper.java:405)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.Handler.service(Handler.jav a:287)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ServletWrapper.service(Serv letWrapper.java:372)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.internalServ ice(ContextManager.java:797)
at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.service(Cont extManager.java:743)
at org.apache.tomcat.service.connector.Ajp13Connectio nHandler.processConnection(Ajp13ConnectionHandler. java:160)
at org.apache.tomcat.service.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(Po olTcpEndpoint.java:416)
at org.apache.tomcat.util.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable. run(ThreadPool.java:501)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

[Fyron]

Are you using a browser other than Internet Exploder? PBW was sadly not developed with anything else in mind... several functions do not work in non-IE browsers. They are mostly the ones associated with joining/leaving games.

[Joachim]

Imperator Fyron said:
Are you using a browser other than Internet Exploder? PBW was sadly not developed with anything else in mind... several functions do not work in non-IE browsers. They are mostly the ones associated with joining/leaving games.



Firefox, so sort of using IE... COuld have sworn I'd undone tunrs in this browser before.

[Fyron]

Joachim said:
Firefox, so sort of using IE... COuld have sworn I'd undone tunrs in this browser before.

Erm... Firefox and IE use completely different HTML rendering engines and have completely separate code bases. Load up IE and see if that works.

[Joachim]

Imperator Fyron said:

Joachim said:
Firefox, so sort of using IE... COuld have sworn I'd undone tunrs in this browser before.

Erm... Firefox and IE use completely different HTML rendering engines and have completely separate code bases. Load up IE and see if that works.



Hooray, Three Cheers for Fyron (and a medal /threads/images/Graemlins/icon44.gif ) - it worked in IE. Thank you. It was one of those things you think about in the turn a bit later and then wonder - did I actually do it - then you go Oh Crap what if I didn't.....

[Roanon]

It also will work in standard browsers if you use the text Version. The graphic Version is only programmed for the non-standard conforming browser IE.

[AMF]

Do you mean the graphic side of PBW? I always use Opera when I log on to PBW, and I always use the graphics Version, it works fine for me.


Roanon said:
It also will work in standard browsers if you use the text Version. The graphic Version is only programmed for the non-standard conforming browser IE.

[Roanon]

Works fine for me also, using Mozialla - most of the time. But not always, undoing a turn does only work with IE or when using Mozilla only in text mode, for example.

[Kana]

PBW appears to be down....

Kana

[Roanon]

Yep, seems to be down

[geoschmo]

Yeah, I see there's a problem. May not be able to do anything till I get home this evening though.

[Ragnarok-X]

No problem http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Colonel]

Funny when everI see I can't get on pbw I always seem to be a bit worried, even though I know its most likely nothing

[tesco samoa]

Geo. I will not be able to look either... For at least 8 hours from this post...

[Caduceus]

Still down 10:30 PM EST.

Wildcard

[geoschmo]

Looks like it working ok now.

[Colonel]

YAY ITS FIXED YAY, been wondering around for awhile waiting Good Job

[Caduceus]

geoschmo said:
Looks like it working ok now.



Don't I look like a heel http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif


Wildcard /threads/images/Graemlins/icon46.gif

[geoschmo]

wildcard06 said:

geoschmo said:
Looks like it working ok now.



Don't I look like a heel http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif


Wildcard /threads/images/Graemlins/icon46.gif

Not at all. It wasn't working when you made your post. I just got it working a couple minutes after that.

[TerranC]

Edit: shortly after I made this post, I was able to log in again. Wierd.

[Slynky]

Me have problems (both in graphic and text mode). Anyone else or is it just me?

[mottlee]

10/3 2:30 PBW DOA http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

[Fyron]

Working great for me.

[Slynky]

Slynky said:
Me have problems (both in graphic and text mode). Anyone else or is it just me?


Back for me now (nice burp!).

[Gandalph]

I have been playing turns since about 7AM PST and it has hiccupped several times during that period, including right now. It does not appear to be down, just experiencing problems that include not being available for short periods.

[mottlee]

OK must have been a hick up....up now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

[geoschmo]

Yeah, it hit me once as well. I'm not wure what's going on but I'm watching it. Everything seems to be working on the server, just slow for some reason.

[mottlee]

Hmmmm to many games with there turn running at the same time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif


(Edit) After uploading turn, I get error 404 for the confermation page

[Roanon]

No problems here.

[mottlee]

Still doing it, I can hit Home and showes that turn went in http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

[Possum]

My old PBW account seems to have been purged. Old username and password are not working...

Username was Possum, same as here...

[tesco samoa]

Name: Possum
Last used : 25 Oct 2002, 21:06

Still there...

Perhaps Geo can reset your password.

[geoschmo]

Have you tried using the get password feature? It will send your password to the email you used for your account. Or is that email no longer valid?

[Possum]

Doh, all fixed

I was hitting that get PW feature, and thought it wasn't working, LOL

I didnt see any feedback, but it worked. I'm logged in now, thanks!

[AMF]

I think PBW is down...or is it just me? (as of 13:06 EST)

Thanks,

Alarik

[Grandpa Kim]

Yup! I get "connection refused".

[bearclaw]

Me too.

[mottlee]

10/22 2:00 Network Error

[PeterDIK]

why? why? Me too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

I hav to do my turn (crying). When pbw come back ?

[Phoenix-D]

Also down for me. There goes another tourny turn..oh well I'm pretty much screwed at the moment anyway.

[geoschmo]

Ya, it's down. All I could verify from here is that it's down and not processing turns. Once I get home I can try to get it rebooted. I'll take auto-processing down before I do that so everyone can get caught up with their turns.

[Roanon]

Down http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Randallw]

Not sure how old previous Posts are, but......still down.

[AMF]

Yeah...it's a sad thing when it's down on Friday night. Sitting here with plenty of beer, my wife out of town, and no turns to play. Looks like I might have to do something productive....

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[geoschmo]

Ok, sorry for the delay. Should be up and running now. As I said before, auto turns are off. I'll leave them off for at least 24 hours to give everyone a chance to get their turns in. Turns will run if all .plr files are uploaded, and the game owner can manually run them if wanted.

[Renegade 13]

Yep, its up!

All Hail Geo! All Hail Geo!

[TurinTurambar]

alarikf said:
Yeah...it's a sad thing when it's down on Friday night. Sitting here with plenty of beer, my wife out of town, and no turns to play. Looks like I might have to do something productive....

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



I feel your pain man.

No Posts here since friday.... that can't be good... if I follow the timeline of this thread correctly, we're saying it's up and running now? Ummm... the game I'm in still lists the next turn coming up as Friday (two days ago). "I hate temporal mechanics..."
<font color="purple"> ~~Turin </font>

[geoschmo]

TurinTurambar said:

alarikf said:
Yeah...it's a sad thing when it's down on Friday night. Sitting here with plenty of beer, my wife out of town, and no turns to play. Looks like I might have to do something productive....

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif



I feel your pain man.

No Posts here since friday.... that can't be good...
~~ <font color="purple"> </font> Turin

Actually, no Posts since the site came back up IS good. That means it's probably still up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[TurinTurambar]

Oh hey man... you were in while I was editing my post.
Does our game owner have to manually process the turn and then we're up and running again?

~~Turin

[geoschmo]

TurinTurambar said:
Oh hey man... you were in while I was editing my post.
Does our game owner have to manually process the turn and then we're up and running again?

~~Turin

I had auto turns off for the server to give people a chance to get coaught up frmo the down time. It's back on now and your turn should run in the next few minutes.

[TurinTurambar]

Well, I see on the game page that it did attempt to execute, and that it failed. It also failed when IconocLast tried to manually execute it. I don't know what to say... if no one else is posting problems is it just our game?

"Monkey Business 04" is the game if it matters.

Thanks,
Turin

[Colonel]

I think pbw is down http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Ragnarok]

It appeared to be down for a moment for me as well. But now it seems to be back up.

[tesco samoa]

back up now.

Just needed a kick

[geoschmo]

Sorry guys. The power company knocked on my door and said they were taking the power down so they could do some line work. No warning and didn't even give me time to get on here and post a message about it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Luckily the server seems to have handled getting the rug pulled out from under it ok.

Geoschmo

[geoschmo]

Servers going to be offline again for a little bit. Starting now. At least this time I got some warning. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[geoschmo]

Ok, should be back up now and should stay up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[Colonel]

Should your electric company come again tell them to screw off http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif j/k

[geoschmo]

Server's down for a bit. Nothing bad, just doing some quick maintenance.

[geoschmo]

Back up.

[mottlee]

PBW Internal Server Error 11/13/04 12:45 Est

[geoschmo]

Just doing some maint and a reboot. Should be fine now.

[mottlee]

Cool, Thanks

[Atrocities]

Geo can I get you to upload and install the Star Trek Mod Version 1.9.0.1?

There is a data only file that contains no BMP images and has only the data files, all of them, for the mod.

www.astmod.com/startrek/download.htm (http://www.astmod.com/startrek/download.htm)

direct download link is = www.astmod.com/zips/stm/STM1901Data.zip (http://www.astmod.com/zips/stm/STM1901Data.zip)

[Fyron]

Does it have the AI files too? You don't want _only_ data...

[eorg]

Atrocities said:
Geo can I get you to upload and install the Star Trek Mod Version 1.9.0.1?

There is a data only file that contains no BMP images and has only the data files, all of them, for the mod.

www.astmod.com/startrek/download.htm (http://www.astmod.com/startrek/download.htm)

direct download link is = www.astmod.com/zips/stm/STM1901Data.zip (http://www.astmod.com/zips/stm/STM1901Data.zip)



done http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

i am a little bit confused about 2 startrek mods with similar Version numbers so if there is something please send me an e-mail to eorg mail bg

also - i rarely (if at all) check these forums so you can e-mail me mod requests

eorg

[Atrocities]

eorg said:

Atrocities said:
Geo can I get you to upload and install the Star Trek Mod Version 1.9.0.1?

There is a data only file that contains no BMP images and has only the data files, all of them, for the mod.

www.astmod.com/startrek/download.htm (http://www.astmod.com/startrek/download.htm)

direct download link is = www.astmod.com/zips/stm/STM1901Data.zip (http://www.astmod.com/zips/stm/STM1901Data.zip)



done http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

i am a little bit confused about 2 startrek mods with similar Version numbers so if there is something please send me an e-mail to eorg mail bg

also - i rarely (if at all) check these forums so you can e-mail me mod requests

eorg



The full Version 1.9.0.0 is the full mod BMP images and all
The Data files only is just that, data files, AI files, no bmp images. It is the complete mod without the bmp images.

[geoschmo]

Oh, heh. Thanks for catching that one Georgig. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[TurinTurambar]

If it's not down yet, it could be soon. Kick it. It's doing wierd stuff like showing "turn due" when they're uploaded and vice-versa.

Turin

[Aiken]

It could be interesting for game owners:

It's possible to submit nonexistent file instead of plr file. The new turn will be generated, but game will fail to open it, and then you quit, it'll show you "Access violation at address..." error message.
Example: in the Upload Your Turn page I pasted a string with a wrong path to the plr file into the textfield. Server accepted it (bad!) as a 0 byte file, and made incorrect turn file.

Just in case you'll have such problems in the future, you know there to find now.

[Thermodyne]

Never mind, it back up.

[Slynky]

Can't connect to PBW.

[tesco samoa]

I am at work and will not be able to look at it for another 7 hours...

Hopefully another admin will notice before then.

[Lisif Deoral]

server up and running right now... thanks to whoever fixed the problem http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[geoschmo]

ISP was down for a bit this morning. Server was fine, just couldn't connect to the internet. By the time I realized there was a problem, it was fixed.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Well, thanks for nothing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Hey, wait a second...

Lisif Deoral
#314149 - 11/29/04 11:17 AM

geoschmo
#314234 - 11/29/04 09:17 PM

narf poit chez BOOM
#314255 - 11/29/04 11:21 PM

Geoschmo's psychic! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

[Renegade 13]

Hmmm, I don't get it Narf. Perhaps I'm missing something??

[Aiken]

Narf, actually it was me who stole and then ate Posts #314150-314233 and #314235-314254 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

they were not tasty http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

[Thermodyne]

Is the server down?

[Slynky]

Thermodyne said:
Is the server down?


Seems down for me, too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Thermodyne]

Ya, it loaded some menus/frames at 7, but not the full page. Now its dead.

[brianeyci]

Dammit, I was going to upload my turn, unless it comes back up in 10 min the turn will autocycle!

I couldn't do it earlier cause my internet is down until monday. Dammit.

&lt;edit&gt; HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it came back up at 7:33 and my turn was due at 7:34!!!!!!!!!!! Cool, looks like the site has a new layout!&lt;/edit&gt;

Brian

[Slynky]

Whoopee!

[brianeyci]

Also, since you're changing the forum -- the "game forum" option cuts off the right side of the frame by an inch. Plus, I kind of liked the color-coded scheme that told me which games had their files uploaded already... now I have to squint at text and read.

My suggestion would be a big red/green light at the top of the window, customizable, that would turn on or off depending on whether or not you needed to upload files. Also, I would like to be able to download all turn files from all games at once in uncompressed format, so I don't have to bother going through a dozen winzip windows everytime I want to play and don't have to click on every one of my games.

&lt;edit&gt; Strange I go back and the pbw doesn't have that new look that it had in the internet cafe. I must have clicked text based PBW &lt;/edit&gt;

Brian

[CovertJaguar]

Is it down?

EDIT: Its back.

[geoschmo]

ISP has been having some hiccups the Last few weeks. Nothing serious, just goes offline for a few minutes to an hour every few days. The only reason I'm concerned at all is because prior to this we've had no problems at all since we switched to the cable form the DSL. Hopefully it's just temporary and not a sign of things to come. Anyway, that's the reason for the Last few incidents. Server has been running fine.

Brian, yah, we haven't made any changes recently and have no immediete plans to make forum changes. Probably you are right and you just clicked on the text UI.

[Nodachi]

Down again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[TurinTurambar]

Yeah. Just within the Last 10 minutes. Right as I'm ready to upload of course...

Turin

[Caduceus]

Me too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

[Slynky]

Another burp! Back up!

[geoschmo]

Ok. it should be back up now.

[TurinTurambar]

Thanks Geo, as always.

Turin

[Slynky]

Error I've never seen before. I get to the upload screen then I get an error message on the upload of the file.

Strange!

[Caduceus]

Down again...

[Atrocities]

Seems ok to me.

[Caduceus]

I wasn't hallucinating, but its back now.

[Atrocities]

It goes down from time to time for a few minutes to an hour occationally. Now if it is down for more than an hour, then I begin to worry. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[bearclaw]

Is it just the connection that's being lost? Or is the server actually down during these times?

[geoschmo]

I've only had to kick the server one time in the Last few weeks. Every other one of these brief outages was a short ISP glitch.

Geoschmo

[geoschmo]

Having some ISP issues again this morning. Servers fine, we just can't reach it. Should be back up shortly.

Geoschmo

[Renegade 13]

I'm having some difficulty with PBW. I just uploaded a turn, and then tried to enter another page on the PBW site....and nothing happened. There was no error message or anything, but it would not give me access to anything. It just sat there, doing nothing. I've tried both the text and graphic sites, but they both give me the same thing. It's like they just don't like me right now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

[Renegade 13]

Hmmm...just tried with IE, and it lets me in, while Firefox doesn't http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif

[Renegade 13]

Ok, no problem anymore. Must have been on my end the whole time.

[Ed Kolis]

Hmm... now I can't access PBW with either Firefox OR IE... what was that IP address again? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[brianeyci]

Yes, PBW seems down.

Heh heh.

Brian

[Asmala]

I just hope autoprocessing is off. Osshod's deadline is soon...

[Ragnarok-X]

down :| Luckily i upped my turns just before it went down http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

[capnq]

Ed Kolis said:
... what was that IP address again? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

69.81.92.216

It's back up now.

[PvK]

Um... it appears to be spamming out an endless series of turns for the Limited Resources 3 (pairs) game now...

Or at least, my email inbox is filling up with them...

yikes!

PvK

[PvK]

Looks like maybe just 30 copies of the same turn, all sent at 11:30...

PvK

[PvK]

Hmm, no, they're still coming. They just all say they're from 11:30...

PvK

[geoschmo]

Pvk, I restarted the server. Let me know if you are still getting spammed.

[PvK]

Thanks Geo. However, they still seem to be coming. About one every five minutes, maybe.

PvK

[geoschmo]

Pvk. Are you still getting them? If so, can you check with the other players in that game and see if they are getting spammed too?

[Captain Kwok]

I haven't recieved any e-mails from Limited Resources 3, perhaps because I don't have the turn attached to e-mails setting on?

[PvK]

I am still getting them - looks like over 150 overnight, at 250KB each. I can write to the other players and ask.

PvK

[PvK]

They're all still dated 11:30 on Tuesday, too...

... I wonder if PBW sent a million of them at once to some poor mail server that is dutifully sending them all out one at a time, even though PBW might have stopped sending them. Or does PBW set the time-stamp on turn files artificially to the time the turn was generated?

PvK