Troop Question

[Loser]

from the FAQ
8.3.1 Range and fire rate does not matter for troop weapons. All troop weapons are assumed to be fired at range 1 and fire rate 1.(Quikngruvn, Foreman)<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Does this remain the case? From those names I'd guess this was added to the FAQ long, long ago.

Is there a modder's FAQ somewhere that would tell what component types do and don't make a difference for Troops or is this something a modder just know, or finds out and just remembers?

[ June 24, 2003, 17:50: Message edited by: Loser ]

[Suicide Junkie]

It is still true.

I'm not sure if there is a list yet, but if you ask for particulars, you will get answers in minutes

[Fyron]

If you go to SE4 Modding 101 Tutorial (in my sig) and then to the Abilities chapter (16), you will see that I have listed every ability and which files they are valid in. I will eventually get around to labeling which do not work on units and such.

[Gryphin]

Different Troop Question:
I noticed something.
You have to research Fighters to get
Small Combat Sensors

Questions:
1) Is that correct?
2) Do they help Troops?

[Loser]

Yes, what about Combat Sensors and ECM? Does it effect Troops?

And what about single-Weapon To-Hit bonus? Does that work for Troops or does it change all the Weapons on the Troop (and all thus all the Weapons on the whole dang stack)?

And Talisman? Does a component modded with the Talisman effect work on a Troop?

How about Emissive Armor?

[Fyron]

The best CS and ECM bonus from all of the troops you have on a planet affect all of the troops (just like sat stacks, fighter stacks, WPs, etc.).

[deccan]

If I assault a planet in Tactical Combat, I get a combat screen whenever one of my troop transports drop troops, usually getting slaughtered without being able to do much damage in return. Suggestions?

[Phoenix-D]

Bring more troops.

EDIT: also, use one big transport. The local militia regenerate after each defeat..so if your transport can't win the first battle, another identical transport won't either.

[ June 25, 2003, 02:55: Message edited by: Phoenix-D ]

[dumbluck]

Just the main reason to set the ground combat to 3 rounds instead of 30 in settings.txt...

[deccan]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Bring more troops.

EDIT: also, use one big transport. The local militia regenerate after each defeat..so if your transport can't win the first battle, another identical transport won't either.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sheesh, that's easier said that done. This is in Proportions. The enemy planet has about 10,000 infantry and maybe 20 small troops. My Blackhawk class medium-transport hull troopships carry 500 infantry and 50 small troops each. I have over 25 of them full of troops. I get a separate ground combat screen whenever one of them drops troops. They get slaughtered and only manage to bring down
down the enemy infantry count to 8,000 or so.

Oh yeah, I also have maybe 20 or so PD-only light cruisers and destroyers to suppress fire the massive barrages of missiles the planet's WPs shoot. I mean, in tactical, it takes over a minute for the planet to finish firing its missiles.

[ June 25, 2003, 04:27: Message edited by: deccan ]

[Loser]

Sounds like you're trying to take a Homeworld in Proportions. I think I know what your problem is: you're trying to take a Homeworld in Proportions.

Seriously though, You'll have to lay waste to those Weapon Platforms to nuke those Troops from orbit (Weapon Platforms are hit first). Is there Planetary Napalm in Proportions? If there is, use it. You'll need to mop that world up a bit before you can put your boys down on it. By the time you can do that, you should also have bigger Troop Transports.

In short, I don't think you're going to take that world by reloading the same dommed save and attacking with the same doomed fleet.

INSERT COIN FOR ADDITIONAL PLAY

[Fyron]

You can indeed do so with unit weapons. I do not know what affect such a bonus has on troop combat. The best thing to do would be to test it out.

[Loser]

One question remains. The Wave Motion Gun (name?) has a to-hit bonus that applies only to itself, yes?

Is it possible to do this on a Unit weapon? Will it work on a Troop?

[Loser]

Thank you.

Will test... sometime...

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Loser:
One question remains. The Wave Motion Gun (name?) has a to-hit bonus that applies only to itself, yes?

Is it possible to do this on a Unit weapon? Will it work on a Troop?<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't think the Wave Motion Gun is available to units.

Or am I wrong? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

EDIT: I just realized that this may be a mod question.

[ June 30, 2003, 19:17: Message edited by: tbontob ]

[Fyron]

That was not his question. His question was if the to hit bonus would work on a troop weapon. Also, you can very easily mod a troop Version of the WMG (as he was most certainly talking about modding, not bonuses available in the standard game).

[PvK]

Unless it broke since the release Version, it should still be working. I use this in Proportions mod to get a difference between infantry an vehicle troops.

PvK

[Loser]

Thanks, PvK, that's just about exactly what I was looking for.

[ June 30, 2003, 19:49: Message edited by: Loser ]