winSPWW2 v4.0 -- 3 CORRECTED OOBs

DRG · #1 January 19th, 2010, 01:59 PM

This addition is no long required and has been included in the v4.25 mini update found on Shprapnel winSPWW2 download page

Don

iCaMpWiThAWP · #2 January 19th, 2010, 08:19 PM

Nice thanks, btw, stick this to the main forum for greater visibility

Warhero · #3 January 21st, 2010, 12:09 PM

Thanks Don.

macnab · #4 January 27th, 2010, 04:39 AM

Thanks

Sgt_Walrus · #5 February 7th, 2010, 07:53 PM

Hello All

There seems to be a possible issue with this OOB fix (or perhaps the v4.0 patch, though I doubt it) as I have had quite a few report from PBEM players at The Blitz getting OOB error messages when using the newest patch and OOB fix.

I have no file to pass along at this stage as I have no issues so far, but I have fielded a lot of complaints.

Has anyone else had any OOB error / security type error messages when playing PBEM with v4.0 + OOB fix?

Cheers
Sgt Walrus

Imp · #6 February 7th, 2010, 10:11 PM

I am guessing the problem is both players have ver 4.0 but only one the fix.
Perhaps a version 4.01 is in order to stop people having to ask.

EpoletovSPR · #7 February 8th, 2010, 09:01 AM

It is not necessary to place winSP in a folder " Program files ".
In Windows7 there are with it small problems. For example games it is difficult to insert into folder PBEM new Save-files.
I know, that it can be corrected, but for not skilled players the best variant to place game in a separate folder on disk C or D.

Also because of it it is difficult to replace OOB-files.
From it also there are problems.

DRG · #8 February 8th, 2010, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt_Walrus

Hello All

There seems to be a possible issue with this OOB fix (or perhaps the v4.0 patch, though I doubt it) as I have had quite a few report from PBEM players at The Blitz getting OOB error messages when using the newest patch and OOB fix.

I have no file to pass along at this stage as I have no issues so far, but I have fielded a lot of complaints.

Has anyone else had any OOB error / security type error messages when playing PBEM with v4.0 + OOB fix?

Cheers
Sgt Walrus

We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. I could have just let this pass for a year but decided it was better to fix this. Do people want LaGG-3's carrying 6 1000 pound bombs or worse, a R-Z carrying 24 ??? THAT is why we issued the fix so we wouldn't get complaints of unfair advantage do to a simple OOB error.

Now that everyone is aware there can be conflict I would suggest a notice be posted informing people there have been corrected OOB's posted , with a link to the files, and that players are responsible for letting their opponents know if they have installed it or not.

Also, lets be clear on this, this fixed only involved THREE OOB's not the entire set

Poland
Russia
USMC

If anyone is PBEMing and the battles involve one or more of those OOB's then the players need to ask the simple question.... "have you installed the corrected OOB's ?"

And NO we are not going to furth compound the problem by issuing a 4.01 EXE and a patch for three OOB's

Don

Sgt_Walrus · #9 February 10th, 2010, 11:28 AM

Hi Don

just to be clear. You have one game going with stock v4.0 OOB and another entirley different install of the game with the three altered OOB's

Yes, for the test files I sent you, exactly.

What you don't tell me is which nations you are playing with for this test game ( yes it's relevant ) and you don't tell me if both you and your test opponent have installed the corrected OOB's into the default OOB folder as well as the main OOB folder.

Scen 000 Test Scenario, Sept '43. P1 Germany, P2 Russia. I am P1.
As far as I am aware, my opponent has installed exactly the two versions that I have installed. We were using v4.0 for one test, and v4.0+OOB fix for the other. That was the point of the test.

I also don't know if the bulk of these reports started before or after the OOB fix was released and given the fix and the patch were close together the possibility of one side or the other not having upgraded their game before starting a PBEM is high.

All the reports of obat error messages started getting to my attention after the v4.0 patch release and during the release of the OOB fix.
I was away on tour as the OOB fix was released and wasn't aware of it until my return. At the same time I became aware of the OOB fix, I started hearing of Obat error messages...thus my initial confusion as to what was causing the problem, the initial patch up , or the following OOB fix.

I am running a tournament at the Blitz. The first round was in v3.0 (no obat error messages), the next three rounds were in v3.5 (no obat error messages). I instructed all the players to use the v4.0 patch and the OOB fix before the most recent round. Most of them are experienced PBEM players and experienced with patching up your games. (quite a few obat error messages). I cannot be %100 sure that every one has patched up and also used the OOB fix...however I do find it strange that suddenly I am hearing about the same issue only after the v4.0 release. The common ground seems to be the v4.0 patch, not the OOB fix.

The recent tests that I tried have been carefully done in v4.0 both with and without the OOB fix. Same result. 'Obat error P1'

So far what I have is one confirmed report that two stock ver4 OOB games are working OK without a problem and no reports on this forum of any unusual PBEM problems.

I would have to disagree.
I have reported to this forum that I have personally had error message when there should have been none, both in stock v4.0 game and also v4.0+OOB fix, and that i have also had other reports of the same nature.
All from experienced SP PBEM players, and by experienced, I means years of experience.

I have provided you with all the evidence that I have at my disposal. I am also trying some test with another player with me as P2.
I will post that information as soon as I have it.

Given you have been a playtester IDK HOW you could even SUGGEST we don't take things like this "seriously" Give me a break

This is why I said that.
From you previous post...

Now that everyone is aware there can be conflict I would suggest a notice be posted informing people there have been corrected OOB's posted , with a link to the files, and that players are responsible for letting their opponents know if they have installed it or not.

I know how hard you guys work...do you seriously think I would have bothered posting this info here without having done everything I could to have averted any issue with these patches and fixes? As you know, I have been PBEMing SP CAMO games at the Blitz for a long time (nine years FYI)...dealing with patch up etc is not exactly a new thing for the guys there.

There is something up with the new patch.
I am just trying to help find out what it is.

What other info would help?
If you wish to send a game file to me, or get me to send one to you...let me know.
What version, what save slot etc.
No worries...just trying to help.

Regards
jason

Sgt_Walrus · #10 February 10th, 2010, 11:40 AM

Hi
Just got a file back from a different player.

V4.0+OOB fix.
I am player 2 (ANZAC)
The first obat error message arrived as I opened my T1.

Sorry, I do not know which nation or year my opponent was. I am trying to find out now.
My p/w=axel
His p/w=adam

Here is the file for me to begin T1.

Cheers
jason