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Old June 18th, 2004, 07:22 PM

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Default Re: MP: Mon-Fri 12.00h UTC fixed scheduled host (game in progress)

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Just another question on quick-host: If it's enabled together with that fixed schedule, then there wouldnt be any problem, would there be?
Quickhost and a FIXED schedule is BAD.

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Say that it will next host on Tue 12.00h, but now all turns were committed by Tue 11.00h, so it will host at Tue 11.00h and skip the hosting at Tue 12.00h, scheduling for hosting on Wed 12.00h. (Was explained that way in an older thread) So everybody knows for sure that his turn will be available (at least) after 12.00h and that he has only to commit before 12.00h the next day without getting a stale turn.
Wrong. If you set it to host at a FIXED time every day, and the Last player sends his turn in, at, say 1130, the game immediately hosts, because it is set for quickhost. Because it is set for quickhost, the game then immediately hosts. The player who Last sent his turn in sees this, takes his turn again. Then the game will host AGAIN at the fixed time of 1200, and everyone will STALE!

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So enabling QH doesnt hurt with a fixed schedule
Quickhost with fixed schedule is BAD, 'mkay?

What you're thinking about that is harmless is Quickhost with a timer. If the game is set to host in, say, 48 hours, and the Last player sends his in turn at 0900, the game will host. The next time the game will then host is in 48 hours from 0900, or when all players have again submitted their turn. Say this happens tomorrow at 1700. Then the game will host again in 48 hours, or when somebody else sends in their turn. The result being that the game will not host on a consistent schedule unless somebody is staling, but you will ALWAYS have at LEAST 48 hours.

The game will therefore not host on a consistent schedule, but you will ALWAYS have 48 hours. Maybe more....but don't count on it, slacker! Besides, if you really need more than that, then you are deliberately procrastinating.

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Old June 18th, 2004, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: MP: Mon-Fri 12.00h UTC fixed scheduled host (game in progress)

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Just another question on quick-host: If it's enabled together with that fixed schedule, then there wouldnt be any problem, would there be?
Wrong. If you set it to host at a FIXED time every day, and the Last player sends his turn in, at, say 1130, the game immediately hosts, because it is set for quickhost. Because it is set for quickhost, the game then immediately hosts. The player who Last sent his turn in sees this, takes his turn again. Then the game will host AGAIN at the fixed time of 1200, and everyone will STALE!

I have tested this and found something different, same as Chazar, three Posts below.

Quickhosting prior to the fixed time will cause that next-scheduled fixed host time to be skipped.

[ June 18, 2004, 18:50: Message edited by: Reverend Zombie ]
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Old June 18th, 2004, 08:17 PM

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Is that so? This is not how I remember it. Perhaps they changed it in a patch. If you're volunteering to make this the game that guinea-pigs this theory, fine by me.

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Old June 18th, 2004, 08:57 PM
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Guess we'll guinea pig things. I'll take Pangaea - we going on Karan then, with 6 players?
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Default Re: MP: Mon-Fri 12.00h UTC fixed scheduled host (game in progress)

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So it's a twice-a-week-hosting?
No, sorry. It started out as 48h, but it's intended to be at least 5 times a week hosting now.

I guess twice a week will take to much real time to complete the game...
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You might want to do a head count, it's been a bit of a confusing start

We went from 2-5 days to 24 hr.

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Old June 19th, 2004, 07:44 PM
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!!!New Players interested in participating: Please look at the continually updated first post of this thread!!!

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You might want to do a head count, it's been a bit of a confusing start
Sure, but I dont know how. I mean, there is the second post in this thread, which I edit to maintain it updated, and I hope that everyone took a look at. Currently it list:

Abysia:JJ_Colorado
Ulm:Mark the Merciful
C'tis:Kel
Caelum:Chazar
R'lyeh:Pickles
Pangaea:Cainehill


Or should we ask that everybody sends me/us a life-sign? Or should I simply use the email message mechanism of this forum to send everybody a message once the server is up and running?

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Old June 19th, 2004, 08:13 PM

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That would be very kind, although we didnt come up with a "snarky" name so far... How about something like "PulseOfGods" picking up the theme of a fixed schedule? No? Well, I guess "UTC12" would do for me pretty well...
That's not snarky. Besides, the conditions dictate that I will come up with the snarky name.

It shall be...."Fat Obstreperous Jerks".

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Are all our settings clear? (see first post on this thread)
By "standard", I assume you refer to the commonly accepted MP standard of Indy-6, Sites-50, blah, blah, blah.

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I would like in as T'ien Ch'i.
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Default Re: MP: Mon-Fri 12.00h UTC fixed scheduled host (game in progress)

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It shall be...."Fat Obstreperous Jerks".
No need for insulting!
(BTW: I've lost 7kg Last month so I'm not fat anymore!!!)
EDIT: I looked up "obstreperous". Seems ok with me now that I know the meaning...

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By "standard", I assume you refer to the commonly accepted MP standard of Indy-6, Sites-50, blah, blah, blah.
No, I meant standard as the game offers it! What does everybody taking part else say?

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