Debate on North Korea. - Page 2

Thermodyne · #11 March 22nd, 2003, 02:37 AM

Debate on North Korea.

I think this problem deserves its own thread. It is equally as serious as Iraq, just not as easily solvable. The north has the bomb, and the country is a very small place. It would be like having a hand grenade battle in a phone booth. Everyone would loose. In any war, the south would be badly damaged, and the north would never allow us � a year to build up our forces. So what to do? Personally I feel that this has to be handled with diplomacy, and if the new leaders of China want it to end, it will. If (I said if) we go to war in Korea, it would be much like the Last war, but perhaps with out the help that was given to the NK�s Last time. We should remember that it was a Soviet gambit that caused the war, China was very unhappy about it. And the Chicom direct involvement destabilized their government and led to a cooling of relations with the USSR. This cooling resulted in a shooting war some years later. Today, American air power would carry the war, but not save the south from being destroyed. If the north used a nuke, then we would be closer to the beginning of the end than ever before. Personally, I think this is a job for the Chicoms. It is their client and their front yard. They are best positioned to handle the situation. Also it is time for the south to provide for their own defense.

Krsqk · #12 March 22nd, 2003, 04:33 AM

Some of us feel the same way about southern California, but there would be too high a negative impact on our gaming/modding community here at Shrapnel.

mac5732 · #13 March 22nd, 2003, 07:55 AM

IMHO, North Korea is a lot more dangerous then Iraq. They are more radical, have a larger army which is better trained, have better weapons, plus the bomb. In addition, Korea is not good tank country, to many hills, knolls, mountains, woods, etc. Would be a very different type of war then what is going on in Iraq.

Plus, NK never surrendered during the Korean war, we only have an Armistace, basically is became a stalemate.

just some ideas mac

[ March 22, 2003, 05:57: Message edited by: mac5732 ]

Taz-in-Space · #14 March 22nd, 2003, 08:03 AM

I agree Mac, North Korea would be much more of a challange than Iraq. The real big factor is China, it's 'big brother' to the north. In the Korean War, we had North Korea all but beaten until China entered the war. My uncle has some exciting war stories about the 'human waves' of Chinese pushing the US forces back.

Atrocities · #15 March 22nd, 2003, 01:37 PM

There is a North Korea?

I did not know this. I wonder what South Korea thinks of this?

Mephisto · #16 March 22nd, 2003, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
There is a North Korea? I did not know this. I wonder what South Korea thinks of this?

I hope you are joking. You are, aren't you?

Atrocities · #17 March 22nd, 2003, 01:59 PM

I am being synical. North Korea is feeling a bit under appreciated in the world arena and is rattling its saber in order to get noticed.

If they want nuclear power, and will not use that knowledge to make weapons, then I say let them and Iran have it. If they choose to make weapons, then no, they should not have it.

neomax · #18 March 22nd, 2003, 04:31 PM

Oh, I am just wondering how could a thread just like this one appear on a space strategy game forum.

I suggest that you American guys discuss this topic on the Usenet group soc.culture.china or soc.culture.korean or soc.culture.japan. It will be interesting. It will be MUCH MORE INTERESTING for you to know the extream nationalism in China and Korea.

TerranC · #19 March 22nd, 2003, 05:02 PM

I don't think nationalism exists in a homogenous(sp?) country, and why whould that play a factor in a war against North Korea?

Also, Why would china join in if there was a war against North Korea? The cold war is over; even though there may be tensions between China and the US, it's not what it once was 50 years ago. Also, China's Foreign policy is "mind your own business, and we'll mind ours". China already has enough to worry about how it's going to have to control it's economy, keep it's ethnicities in line, and it's war on drugs. I hardly doubt that it's going to sacrifice thousands of people for a backwards "ally". Although in case of war, it wouldn't like US forces near it's borders.

And Atrocities, NK is rattling it's sabre in order to LIVE, not get love and attention from CNN. The NK demands Food and Oil shipments for it to abandon it's nuclear program entirely. If NK wanted attention, it would have bombed Tokyo by now.

Mac, there is no armistice, not on the SK side. President Syngman Rhee (I think that's the correct english spelling) never signed it. Both sides can still attack at will.

tesco samoa · #20 March 22nd, 2003, 05:40 PM

neomax.... I believe that the reason for all these debates is that we are all confertable with each other now. and pretend were at a coffee shop or pub when we chat here. The opinions differ as does the delivery. But if some one is offended by a post they are informed and given a chance to defend it or re type it after looking at what they typed.

I tried to stay out of the debates... But hey you read this site every day... And your friends are in a heated conversation. One must join in.

So Neomax. I hope that you and all the new people stay around this forum so that one day we can become friends.

Take Care

Simon