Balance mod project

[PriestyMan]

it was mentioned on IRC that:

japanese spears are way superior to western spears because of the materials. the steel is superior.

and ninja training was mentioned as a possible source of increased skil. since all oriental peoples have it.

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[Adept]

Lol, japanese steel was superior? It's the exact opposite PristlyMan, I'm sorry to say. We can talk about this at length if you want to, but the short story is that Japan never got the technology (from china) to produce high quality steel. The laborous folding and hammering of the katana is a way to hammer-purify the steel. It also drives away the carbon, so the best katana's are actually the ones that needed to be folded the least.

Yari is just the japanese word for a spear. The important thing is though, that the spears are used with two hands, so they should have the bonuses and damage appropriate for two handed weapons (attack +1, damage 5, length 4). The same goes for any other troop that just has a spear, as they will use it two handed.

[Adept]

Thanks for the links Gandalf and Lama

[Samhain]

I would think a defense bonus for using a spear two handed would be appropriate also. Assuming it was a normal length spear rather than a pike, I would think it would be similar to a quarter staff in that respect.

[Deathblob]

Originally Posted by Adept

Lol, japanese steel was superior? It's the exact opposite PristlyMan, I'm sorry to say. We can talk about this at length if you want to, but the short story is that Japan never got the technology (from china) to produce high quality steel. The laborous folding and hammering of the katana is a way to hammer-purify the steel. It also drives away the carbon, so the best katana's are actually the ones that needed to be folded the least.

You are completely utterly wrong here. Look it up on wikipedia! China is exactly where Japan got their metallurgy technology from.

I've got to assume you are just trolling here because a quick google of "katana versus sword" will demonstrate that katanas are vastly superior to all swords except maybe Jedi lightsabers.

Yari is just the japanese word for a spear. The important thing is though, that the spears are used with two hands, so they should have the bonuses and damage appropriate for two handed weapons (attack +1, damage 5, length 4). The same goes for any other troop that just has a spear, as they will use it two handed.

I also don't understand your focus on spears and whether they are wielded one- or two- handed. Who cares, it's just a bunch of scouts! The most glaring problem with historical accuracy in the entire weapon specifications set in Dominions is that arrows from long bows are not AP.

[Samhain]

Originally Posted by PriestlyMan

...and ninja training was mentioned as a possible source of increased skill. since all oriental peoples have it.

Of course he was trolling. I don't usually appreciate trolls myself, but I nearly busted a gut after reading this one.

[Foodstamp]

[Humakty]

Originally Posted by Deathblob

I also don't understand your focus on spears and whether they are wielded one- or two- handed. Who cares, it's just a bunch of scouts! The most glaring problem with historical accuracy in the entire weapon specifications set in Dominions is that arrows from long bows are not AP.

Pfaa, everyone knows longbow arrows are AN, as they're blessed by the king of England himself. Range 90 too.

[LDiCesare]

Originally Posted by Deathblob

You are completely utterly wrong here. Look it up on wikipedia! China is exactly where Japan got their metallurgy technology from.

I've got to assume you are just trolling here because a quick google of "katana versus sword" will demonstrate that katanas are vastly superior to all swords except maybe Jedi lightsabers.

Can we assign points for the best troll?

[Adept]

Yeah, best troll award. I fell for it too, sorry guys.

Can somebody remind me how I turn a weapon into a bonus weapon? I mean, I'd like the Ninja to keep the shuriken even if you give him a different sword.