MP Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. Game Over. Supplicants Triumph! - Page 22

Septimius Severus · #**211** April 25th, 2010, 06:13 PM

This game attracts some of the most intelligent people I've met. I've ruled out the Risen Oracle, using the same process I ruled out the Gorgon, and other pretenders. No team should have a pretender that has a native path in another teams primary path. If I make exceptions for my own team, I must make exceptions for other teams. You get my drift. Why then can't the blood team have the Gorgon if they want? Lets not go back there. So lets see what we can work out from here or just stick with what we got.

Wrana · #**212** April 25th, 2010, 06:42 PM

I'd say:
1. End the discussion about team allowances. I see them as generally balanced, but even if it isn't so, it's clear from the start. And all players joined this game knowing it...

AFAIK general agreement is that the most powerful paths are Blood, Death, Astral. Earth isn't bad due to forge bonus obtainable. All teams have nations with good troops and those with lategame power, too.
2. Changing path allowances will probably promote changing which Pretenders are allowed - it doesn't matter if I have Ageless Olm if I still can't use him to get high water. This is another discussion we can quite do without.
3. I'm for increasing usefulness of merc player. I think allowing rainbow Pretender is a good feature here. Adding site and/or more water provinces may also be good in this case.
4. Let's bloody frigging start!

chrispedersen · #**213** April 25th, 2010, 09:41 PM

Look, I'm not trying to game the system, Im trying to alert to a problem.

Look according to how I understand it:

Jotenheim has *1* choice of pretender: the green dragon
Vanheim has *1* choice of pretender: the green dragon.
Mictlan has *2*: the oracle and the blue dragon.

given that dragons are widely viewed as suck as* pretenders... this doesn't seem right.

Compare that with Ctis - who has 10. Every single member of ano's team has no less than 5 choices.

Septimius Severus · #**214** April 26th, 2010, 02:56 AM

That simplifies things a bit, but it is a scenario and rpg'er. I haven't seen DrP complaining, wisely he stays out of these types of discussions. So does Gandalf.

Maybe we could learn from them.

Do you have your heart set on coming in, only if you can play Mictlan? Yes/no

AlgaeNymph · #**215** April 26th, 2010, 02:58 AM

If you're talking to me, I'll be happy playing Pythium instead of R'lyeh if everyone'd prefer no water.

Septimius Severus · #**216** April 26th, 2010, 03:07 AM

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If you're talking to me, I'll be happy playing Pythium instead of R'lyeh if everyone'd prefer no water.

No was directing it at Chris. Everyone knows your willing to play whatever. Kuddos to you.

I need to know whether Chris is in the game as captain or not at this point. Whether he will only play if he can have mictlan with certain features or if he is willing to keep R'lyeh or take T'ien Chi' as alternative.

I've already agreed to do more work in adding some mountains and some freshwater masks to the map. If more underground lake provinces are desired, I can add 4 more if I can find locations that would be evenly spaced and with limited obstruction to the AI and land game. But that is about it as far as water on this map goes. That was my intention from the beginning to have a mostly land based game, with a strange gimp named R'lyeh and strange Atlanteans (read the background story!). I would be happy to captain Usurpers as is and play R'lyeh or any other nation as is. But I've never been competitive minded.

AlgaeNymph · #**217** April 26th, 2010, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Septimius Severus

No was directing it at Chris. Everyone knows your willing to play whatever. Kuddos to you.

Thanks

, but I'll have to qualify that. I have a preference for nations that can defend well.

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Originally Posted by Septimius Severus

...or if he is willing to keep R'lyeh or take T'ien Chi' as alternative.

Ooo, that'll work too!

Septimius Severus · #**218** April 26th, 2010, 03:33 AM

But I won't put it all on Chris. Ano wants him to be the exception to everyone else and take a bless in the team's secondary path that is less than other teams get (ashdod being the exception, poor Children of Crom). But of course he is worried about uber blessed eagle something or others.

I've sent a comprise to them via PM on the path restrictions. Unlimited in primary, 6 in secondary and/or native, and 3 in all else. A bit more complicated than what we've got but at least it does apply evenly to all.

At this point I need a yes or no from Chris whether he is in the game and what nation they are going with (Mictlan, R'lyeh, or Tien Chi'), otherwise we keep looking for another Captain or promote from the ranks of the Usurpers. Uh oh Algae.

DrP is out of town till Thursday, I'm anxious to start as much as Wrana, but our estimated starting date is not till the end of the month. So we are OK, so far. And Gandalf must have a final list of nations to complete his work on the AI.

ano · #**219** April 26th, 2010, 04:53 AM

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I've sent a comprise to them via PM on the path restrictions. Unlimited in primary, 6 in secondary and/or native, and 3 in all else. A bit more complicated than what we've got but at least it does apply evenly to all.

I am absolutely fine with this suggestion.

AlgaeNymph · #**220** April 26th, 2010, 05:01 AM

As am I.

Oh, and will we be using the CBM?

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Originally Posted by Septimius Severus

At this point I need a yes or no from Chris whether he is in the game and what nation they are going with (Mictlan, R'lyeh, or Tien Chi'), otherwise we keep looking for another Captain or promote from the ranks of the Usurpers. Uh oh Algae.

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If it gets to that then I'll want an advisor ASAP.