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Old June 25th, 2006, 02:13 PM

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Once again Thank you Mathieu
it is soo much easier to critizise others work than do it your self from the begining.

We still don't have any costal arty and very few resistance units.

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Old June 26th, 2006, 09:34 AM

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JohnT said:Once again Thank you Mathieu
it is soo much easier to critizise others work than do it your self from the begining.
You do a good job too. I'm very glad to share opinion.
I enjoy most of your alterations.

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First of all I have some probem with the Madsen machineguns,
as it is a 7.92mm LMG I think m.24 LMG should IMHO have a HEK of 5.
(While the Norwegian version was in 6.5mm and thus with a HEK of 4)
Same applies to the M.1929 MMG.
Applies to Weapon 5,9,19
I'm maybe wrong but I think M.1928 MMG is a 8mm machinegune, while M.1924 LMG is a 6.5 mm machinegun. The 8mm MG can have a HEK of 5, but 6.5 mm must keep a HEK of 4. The 6.5mm MG is used in others oob (netherland,...).

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JohnT said:The Madsen 20mm Autocannon Weapon 007, got APpen =3.
I suppose it should have the same 4 Pen as 20mm Kvk 30.
According to Tony Williams the stats are similar:
V0= 780/795
Proj Weight= 154/147,
muzzle Energy 46 800/46 500
And handled as a Autocannon regarding ammo loadout and HEK.
So new HeK = 9 but much lower ammo loadout.
Change ammoloadout in unit 012 and 052
The problem is to keep all oob homogeneous : the madsen 20mm autocannon is also used in Greek oob, Spanish oob (nationalist and republican side), Finnish oob, Chinese oob (communist and natinalist) Dutch oob, US marines oob,...

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JohnT said:Formation 095 and 098 contains a on mapp unit, FO in slot 1
while therest of the units are Off map units.
FO -delete from these formations.
What having deleted FO unit for? AI problems?

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/Mathieu Villard
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Old June 26th, 2006, 04:18 PM

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First of all I have some probem with the Madsen machineguns,
as it is a 7.92mm LMG I think m.24 LMG should IMHO have a HEK of 5.
(While the Norwegian version was in 6.5mm and thus with a HEK of 4)
Same applies to the M.1929 MMG.
Applies to Weapon 5,9,19
I'm maybe wrong but I think M.1928 MMG is a 8mm machinegune, while M.1924 LMG is a 6.5 mm machinegun. The 8mm MG can have a HEK of 5, but 6.5 mm must keep a HEK of 4. The 6.5mm MG is used in others oob (netherland,...).
Cheers
/Mathieu Villard
I checked it in my only book on the Danish army. the Danes used the same 8mm round in the MMG and LMG, as I understands it is the same 7.92*57 as the Germans.

So that's the easy one.
BTW Sweden had a few Madsen MMG's in 6.5 used by the Navy,
so Madsen produced their guns to any calibre under 25mm.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 04:21 PM

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What having deleted FO unit for? AI problems?

Probably AI might be more problems with ordinary gameplay too.
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Old June 29th, 2006, 07:50 AM

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We still don't have any costal arty and very few resistance units.

Cheers
/John T
What do you now about the "V3" an armoured car built by danish resistance?

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/denmark/denmark.html

"We visited Copenhagen at the beginning of last December, where we visited the Danish Resistance museum. The V3 armored car mentioned on your Danish page is exhibited outside the museum (see attached picture). The museum sells a small booklet 'V3 Den danske Panservogn' by Jørgen H. Barford;
this has a number of pictures of the vehicle in which it appears that changing the markings was a bit of a hobby of the crew. I thought you might like some additional information about the vehicle:

The 2-ton Ford truck originally belonged to the Frederiksvaerk-Hundested railway line, the steel plates were obtained from the Frederiksvaerk steel-mill, from ships under repair. The work took two to three months; when the news of the forthcoming capitulation of German troops was announced, the car was not finished, and was secretly moved from the railway repair shop to the steel works. The work was finished as quickly as possible, abandoning secrecy for speed. After completion it was found that the front armor caused the engine to overheat, so a relatively enormous hole was cut in the front plate; the driver's viewing slit was enlarged so that the driver could actually see out. A photo of a liberation parade shows the V3 next to an unarmored lorry, and it is obvious that the weight of the armor is seriously affecting the vehicle's suspension. The car was armed with a bipod mounted light machine gun - which looks like a Bren to me - and the small arms of the crew of 5 or 6.

The Germans had recruited large numbers of Danes to act as terrorist gangs during the war; while German forces capitulated peacefully, the Danes in Nazi service continued to fight in a short, small-scale civil war. The V3's only combat was the capture of the Lorenzen gang, who were hiding in a summer cabin in Asserbo. The V3 turned up at the cabin, and fired a warning shot at the cabin. A gang member looked out, panicked, and shot himself in the head. His bullet, as well as killing him, hit the armored car. The V3 machine gunner opened fire on the house, but stopped when they realized there was no return fire. The house was stormed and the gang, along with a number of heavy weapons and much ammunition, were captured. There were 18 men and one woman in the house; 1 killed himself, and 2 were killed and 5 wounded by the V3. After this action the V3 toured Northern Zealand and then Copenhagen on a sort of promotional tour. While the V3 has a number of bullet holes in it, apparently only one of them, in the passenger side door, was from enemy action. The rest are from what Barfod describes as "target practice". No explanation of why they used their own armored car for target practice is given."

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New simplified version of the danish oob, extended to 1946 by JohnT
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